Slayer: Why Drummer Dave Lombardo Was Fired By The Band

Why drummer Dave Lombardo was fired by Slayer.
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I cite my sources and they may differ than other people's accounts, so I don't guarantee the actual accuracy of my videos.
Dave Lombardo would be a co-founder of the metal band Slayer and would be hailed as an innovative drummer with some referring to him as and i quote ‘the godfather of double bass’. He would be hugely influential on metal drummers who came after him. Despite playing on 9 of Slayer’s albums his time with the band especially in their later years would tumultuous and end on a sour note. Today let’s take a look at why Dave Lombardo was fired from Slayer.
Lombardo would first meet guitarist Kerry King at the age of 16 thanks to some friends who informed him they lived a few blocks from each other. The pair had shared a similar taste in music. King was already playing in a band with bassist and vocalist Tom Arraya and the last piece of the puzzle was guitarist Jeff Hanneman. King would recall meeting Hanneman a rehearsal warehouse in LA recalling
“As I was leaving, I saw Jeff just kinda standing around playing guitar, and he was playing stuff that I was into, like Def Leppard’s ‘Wasted’ and AC/DC and Priest. So I started talking to him and just said, ‘Hey, you want to start a band?’ I already knew Dave [Lombardo, drummer] and we had been playing together in his parents’ garage a bit, and so I brought Jeff in, then went to Tom [Araya, vocalist/bassist], who I was playing with in another band, and said, ‘Hey man, I have a different band if you’re interested.’ And that was it.”
Lombardo would play on Slayer’s first three albums 1983’s Show No Mercy, 1985’s Hell Awaits and 1986’s Reign in Blood. However by 1986 he would leave Slayer for the first time in 1986 over not being able to make enough money to support himself.. It was during this time he nearly joined Megadeth. He would tell the Speak N’ Destroy Podcast
"A funny story - I was going to join Megadeth when I left Slayer the first time in '86. It was very much on the down-low - probably Mustaine doesn't remember this. But they had opened up for Alice Cooper during the Peace Sells tour, and I went to the Long Beach Arena, and I met with the guys.
"And the main issue at that time was - when I saw the guys, they didn't look very healthy. I think it was a very dark period for them, and I had heard rumors of drugs and stuff like that. I was no saint, but I kept it in check, and they just didn't look healthy to me, I didn't see a healthy path for myself. Sure enough, Gar Samuelson died - and he was an amazing drummer.
It would be producer Rick Rubin who coerced the drummer to would return to Slayer in 1987 and drum on their next two albums. Then in 1992 with the birth of his first child he would leave the band once again. It was during his time out of Slayer for the second time he did session work and performed with a number of other bands.
Lombardo would end up rejoining Slayer in 2002 telling an interviewer in 2004 They gave me a call almost exactly ten years after I left and asked me if I wanted to do some shows. I said I'd think about it. I called them back and it all worked out and it's been going really good since then. He would end up drumming on a few more albums for the band until 2013 when to the surprise of many fans, he was fired from the group. In a lengthy post on facebook he would write
And i quote @Last year, I discovered 90% of Slayer’s tour income was being deducted as expenses including the professional fees paid to management, costing the band millions of dollars and leaving 10% or less to split amongst the four of us. In my opinion, this is not the way a band’s business should operate. I tried rectifying it by letting my band mates know, and Tom and I hired auditors to figure out what happened, but I was denied access to detailed information and the necessary back up documents.
I spent the Christmas and New Year holidays realizing I had toured all over the world in 2012, but yet, had not been paid (except a small advance) or provided a proper accounting for a full year's sweat and blood. On top of this, I was told that I would not be paid until I signed a long form contract which gave me no written assurance of how much or on what basis management would deduct commissions, nor did it p he was fired from the band.
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[@Wargasm54]

Lombardo is a beast. Slayer was never the same without him. Bostaph is no slouch. And a kickass drummer. But nobody hits like Lombardo.

[@TonyT007]

Divine Intervention with Bostaph was incredible.

[@davidmorneau5260]

I think you didnt listened carefully Bostaph. I know Slayer fans loves too much Lombardo and Bostaph have nothing to do with all these shits. He got big shoes to fill but he did more than a great. Better hands, better creativity.

[@saltpeter7429]

I hold Bostaph in my top 5 drummers EVER. He is amazing. I got love for Lombardo, and I understand fans being loyal to an originator, but I didnt see SLAYER until 98 on the Diabolus tour. They were a metal machine. I went to see them again 3 days later.

[@Wargasm54]

@@davidmorneau5260 no hate for bostaph. You could certainly argue he’s technically a better drummer. I just like the feel Lombardo brings. He hits harder and accentuates better in my opinion . Just a personal preference.

[@TonyT007]

@@saltpeter7429 U gotta hear Bostaph on Exodus’ album Shovel Headed Monster. Paul is a BEAST ! They mentioned John Dette I like him .. but there’s something about his playing I don’t dig .

[@dcyphrz8532]

King didn’t really address the pay disparity. Makes me believe Dave’s story.

[@twistoffate4791]

The interviewer should have pressed the question, too.

[@hadara69]

Whomever was interviewing him did not want to press it. I believe Dave's version of events.

[@twistoffate4791]

@@hadara69 I do, too. Dave knew.

[@herculesbrofister265]

Why should he? He's not on trial. And Slayer isn't a charity that's required to have open books. They don't owe anyone any financial explanation except their managers

[@dcyphrz8532]

@@herculesbrofister265 When the basis for your pay is a split, nobody honest would argue against transparency. But if you’re ok with musicians getting ripped off, that’s for you to sit with.

[@Boozer13]

I’ve worked with Dave several times. Helping him setup his home studio, engineering several band projects with him, jamming with him etc. he’s as sweet as can be. Having never met Kerry King, I can already tell Dave is miles above King in the “class” category.”

[@teetaunjj7894]

Definitely Dave is much smarter too... Kerry kept them on the Same business plan model since 1984.. and Kerry is a liar too

[@Nightmaroid]

You can really tell which of the two is a loud mouth and which let music speak for himself. That's really cool that you got to know and work with him! I'm curious though which project did you guys worked together if you can elaborate.

[@t_bone12571]

Met Dave in a drum shop in Brisbane in 2003 along with Dale Crover and John Stainier; they were there as part of the Ipecac Geek Tour and Dave was a really nice guy (the other two were a little stand-offish but not completely rude). All three signed a drumhead for me & posed with me in a photograph, was a great afternoon out. Asked Dave if he got more liberties with his drum parts as I knew his parts in Slayer were mostly dictated by King (sometimes Hanneman too) with drum machines & he said that they'd given him some leeway. I said that the other guys must've grown up a bit which got Dave laughing.

[@aboutthemetal8783]

He's the mind behind slayer , Paul was great at doing live shows and playing as close to Dave's drumming as possible,however when it comes to writing with slayer his style is wrong for the band , when people say divine intervention was all Paul's writing they are absolutely wrong , there was a at one time video proof that Dave had recorded ditto head and other songs from that album ,there was video footage of Dave practicing in the studio and you could see and hear him playing ditto head with Jeff , The only song that Paul wrote with the classic line up ,that sounds like it's real slayer is , payback .

[@johnhynesproductionslimite7522]

I never met either but agree…based on interviews I’ve watched…Dave seems far more articulated then Kerry

[@bryanwithat6763]

Slayer treated Dave as an employee and not as an original bandmember. Also, I think Kerry knew exactly what was going on with the finances.

[@youtubeshadowbannedmylasta2629]

I don't know he seems like he is in denial about it, like how many years can this happen to someone and them not protect their abuser. never thought one of my favorite bands of all time would have battered women syndrome but clearly they do, they need some serious help.

[@alugificator]

Kerry just dissed 3 current/former members in about a minute's worth of interview. Guy is a scummy tool, and whatever the sketchy financial arrangements were, I have no doubt he was profiting off it.

[@strangevisions5162]

@@youtubeshadowbannedmylasta2629 he comes across as a total liar...gotta wear those shades because the eyes are the windows to the soul

[@statickk14]

You write off most of your earnings and then pay Dave a low salary. Kerry knew what was going on, he is trash.

[@mattlewis6833]

@@strangevisions5162 lol I thought the same thing

[@neugey]

Kerry strikes me as one of the most difficult guys you could ever be in a band with, across all genres.

[@EhHold]

He may shred his ass off, but I never liked the dude.

[@davidmorneau5260]

This is why Hanneman and Araya stick in Slayer all those years and Bostaph was willing to be back in the band?

[@overthemountain16]

@@davidmorneau5260 people stay in bad marriages or partnerships for decades. Bands are no exception.

[@Huddle_House56]

Absolute dickhead. Makes people like Lars Ulrich look friendly and agreeable.

[@joeldukes303]

King is trash.

[@Sangria]

Dave is an amazing drummer. I’m glad he’s still working live shows.

[@liquidv2305]

I saw him play recently with Testament, and there were more Slayer shirts than anything else in the crowd - the people have not forgotten him

[@Sl33zytheclown]

Just saw him with the misfits

[@alanbbrady8196]

He is not that great technically but certainly solid enough for boom splat metal. I once listened to two guys chatting about "How Lombardo invented double bass drumming.... while the other guy said nah.... It was Philthy Animal" Both were wrong it was a jazz drummer Louie Bellson and he played a famous solo in a speed metal style.

[@noferblatz]

Guaranteed, Lombardo's take on the finances is real, regardless of what anyone else says. The music business is about ripping off artists. The movie business is the same way. All these remoras around the artist, hanging on and grabbing whatever they can, to the detriment of the artists.

[@123612100]

From hearing about the reason Tom wanted to stop slayer Dave was for sure right.

[@WinterInTheForest]

I wonder which specific group runs and operates those industries? 🤔

[@MyBrothersKeeper101]

It goes well beyond that it was found that members of the band were making five and six times what dave was making. These documents are available if you search... It's public record.

[@paulmallon9292]

Slayer don't even directly dispute what he said. If it was untrue and he was making money there wouldn't be an issue.

[@JamesCraigWhoop]

67K for drumming in one of the biggest metal bands dang. I know it was likely different many years ago but that is really dirt when living in CA and taking care of a kid

[@angelamarie709]

I cant believe one of the best metal drummers in the world only made 67K in 2011. Thats criminal.

[@Saltanic]

There’s a video were he mentioned that he was getting paid $600 a show.

[@mandatorymyocarditis]

with inflation today that would be about 1 million dollars, ha. joking. but, yeah I think Rick Jewbin and those manager types really sucked the money out of them. whatever Kanye has been saying...

[@martymusch1375]

I know, right? The other guys were underpaid as well but not nearly so. It seems to me the other guys were embarrassed that their drummer knew more about the business that they did. I'll be keeping my day job.

[@jarleabelhaugeek1217]

My thoughts exactly. Make more as a plummer.

[@mandatorymyocarditis]

@@jarleabelhaugeek1217 you actually have to work as a plumber and work your ass off. Playing drums is not work, that's fun. Who cares about making a little more money as a plumber, I'd take the drummer position. People care too much about money

[@somefrog6089]

As much as I love Slayer, damn it, I can't forgive them for how they treated Dave. He deserved so much better for all he contributed to Slayer's success. Awful to think that such a skilled musician and such a great person had to go through that.

[@XENO333]

Another sad fact is that with all his time in Slayer, Dave never got a writing credit. Paul had 3.😔

[@jamesstaggs4160]

Lombardo on Seasons in the Abyss is why I began actually paying attention to what the drummer was doing.

[@guldarheel1204]

I was just talking about the drums in War Ensemble and Spirit in Black. That was when I really started paying attention to drums too.

[@gsxerwhite]

Shit yea I was just learning the kit at the time and I must’ve played that whole album nonstop for weeks trying to figure it all out. Dave was a great inspiration to my 13 year old self. Then I got to see Slayer live at Clash of the Titans tour. I miss those days.

[@robertedwards9861]

fav song

[@BluegrassNBass]

Come walk with me through endless time....seen em twice, got into them early 90s

[@james-b7j7v]

i think its there best album

[@billthompson5644]

As many times as I've seen Slayer it sound like management was screwing them all especially Dave. I'm glad he joined other bands I wish he would have done it earlier and got paid more money. Dave is really a kick-ass drummer he deserves all the money he can make for the skills that he has.

[@ultralyrics1]

That double bass fill in Angel of death still get's me going to this day 🤘🤘🤘

[@xymoriintus]

Yes, very simple but effective

[@felixcorea9668]

hell yeah

[@krustyassninja666]

I was lucky enough to see Dave play with a Slayer live. He killed it. Brilliant drummer.

[@TheTravisBeck]

Not too long ago I scored tickets to the Megadeth show with Amon Amarth, Suicidal Tendencies, and Ghost. I don’t know much about Suicidal Tendencies, but I was standing near the doors when they were playing and took note of their drummer. He was a goddamn hell hammer. So I went in, and sure enough I was thrilled to see it was Dave Lombardo. Just a hands down world class drummer. In a league of his own. He deserves nothing but the best.

[@omardamian6792]

I saw that tour too. No idea who ST was and even less an idea that Lombardo was with em. They came out, fucked it up and I was hooked after that. Top tier drummer.

[@snowdenwyatt6276]

@@omardamian6792 I saw ST open for Metallica back in the day - either the Load or Reload tour so at least five years before Trujillo switched bands. They were first up on a triple bill and the second band was a late substitution (Candlebox subbed in for Layne Staley who was "indisposed" IIRC). Mike Muir finished the set and announced something like "hang around, sh*tbox is up next".

[@Jermeister12]

Yeah Travis😀When Slayer came to Atlanta and played the ATL Civic Center they had a cool balony which wasn't farr from the stage and watched Dave play drums it was really cool😀😀

[@matthewestrada5217]

He also tours with the misfits now

[@MrTaxiRob]

@@omardamian6792 I've seen videos on this channel claiming Pantera invented groove metal but that's horseshit, ST and a whole shitload of hardcore bands all around the country were already doing it when Cowboys dropped.

[@JeffScottKing]

Still one of the best metal drummers of all time.

[@truthhurts79]

Lars Ulrich

[@gsxerwhite]

He inspired me to learn how to play.

[@GPz84]

@@truthhurts79 Dave's ball sweat plays better than Lars.

[@truthhurts79]

@@GPz84 not early days Lars... Dave didn't get fast till reign in blood

[@GPz84]

@@truthhurts79 Dave's shit could always play faster than Lars. My cat player faster than Lars.

[@kanewalsh3167]

The fills on Behind the Crooked Cross and Ghost of War are god tier drumming moments. His jazz and punk chops make him what he is...an amazing drummer that deserves just as many accolades as the guitarists and Vox on the stage in front of him. True muso and pioneer. Uber respect 🤟

[@0degreesK]

Yes! The fills on “Ghosts of War” kill me. The song “Snuff” isn’t one of their best, but Lombardo goes bananas on that track. Slayer is one of very few bands where I concentrate on the drums more than anything else when I listen to them. Not sure if I’ve ever listened to a Bostaph-era album from start to finish.

[@kanewalsh3167]

@@0degreesK I don't mind Bostaph, I was already into Forbidden when he went to Slayer. I dug Divine intervention but Lombardo was THE drummer for Slayer hands down 🤟

[@0degreesK]

@@kanewalsh3167 Didn't mean it as a knock on Bostaph. Just kind of like... hanging out with your ex and her new boyfriend or something. Bad analogy, but maybe you get where I'm coming from, LOL.

[@PsyKotyK]

Ya the drumming on the whole south of heaven album is phenom hes the stand out on that album for sure

[@NPK476]

Seen SLAYER over 25 times, but things really took a shift when they changed management in the mid-2000's and after Jeff, that was it.

[@vampirascoffin870]

Perfect said!!!! 💯🤙🏼🤘🏼

[@mykeee253]

I hear ya. I've seen em about that many times myself. I have a stack of photos (pre digital) to prove it. Anyways I say all the last slayer stuff needs to have an asterisk by it noting that it's NEW SLAYER like NEW COKE, (if ya remember that) it simply wasn't the same w/out Jeff and without Dave???? It's like the local casino hyping STEPPENWOLF when it's like 1 original member. I can share these pics with ya. (Kerry has hair!)

[@greenman4203]

He had a little studio set up in Whittier a while back and I remember sitting on his drum kit and just messing around. All the sudden the door opens and in walks Dave. I immediately got up off his throne and all he did was say hello to us all. I was so surprised he didn't get upset with me being on his kit. Dave is hands down the most nicest musician I've met.

[@fredbrad]

Kerry and Araya they were grabbing most of the money and paying Lombardo a pittance, and also denied him all access to financial information about the band. Apparently they resented him because it was Dave's that everyone commented on and it was 90% of the greatness of the band, this sometimes ignites the ego and envy

[@GabAssbreaker]

They had a difficult relationship with him since the 80s, he quit the band for a short time before Reign In Blood i think, and was replaced by one of the Tonys from Whiplash (the thrash band), before Lombardo came back. Needless to say, Kerry King its just another rock star asshole and its a well known fact that Araya was on it only for the money after the 90s. Slayer died with Jeff Hanneman.

[@lukeknutson3191]

he quit the band TWICE on them in the middle of tours. Then sold his rights off to the band in 1992. They resented him for leaving them hanging on tours in desperation to get a new drummer so they can fulfill their tour contracts so they can get paid. Then rubin had him come back on a salary while the rest of the guys were making less than dave was. So yeah... Its all Kerry, and Tom (sarcasm).. Also remember JEFF told the guys to fire him too while he was recovering from his injury.

[@paulpereira7113]

Well... Kerry has NEVER even been the best guitarist in his own band

[@gsxerwhite]

@@lukeknutson3191 damn that’s crazy. I saw them live in 91 and it seemed like they were firing on all cylinders. They blew away Megadeth and Anthrax that night.

[@lukeknutson3191]

@@paulpereira7113 lead playing I agree. Rhythm. A different story. He's a phenomenal rhythm player to the point Jeff couldn't play some of Kerry's songs because they were way too fast. (sex murder art is an example)

[@DrDetroit_]

This is my absolute favorite channel. Thanks for always hooking us up.

[@MyBrothersKeeper101]

Absolutely love Slayer and one of the reasons for that love and one of the reasons they are so great is simply because of the drumming. When the other fellas in the band are making five and six times of what you're making and you're working just as hard if not harder you're going to want to say something.... Imagine being fired from a band you helped start for not being an equal part.

[@derunsympath]

Blessed to have seen Slayer twice in their original line up. Gotta say Dave is probably the best Drummer ive ever listened to and ive been to hundreds of shows over the years. Especially in the Metal realm there is almost nobody that has that kind of groove. He is playing so fast and powerfull yet at the same time his playing feels laid back and cultured. Simply stunning.

[@demonocusmetalocus3558]

Dave is one of those drummers that no matter what band hes in he makes the whole band sound better.

[@mateoh.3735]

Just saw Dave with Testament and he is a beast and he’s so fluid in his playing he almost looks bored back there.

[@TonyT007]

Testament’s The Gathering album with Dave on drums was incredible to say the least .

[@floydsemlow8253]

Most definitely in the top 10 for best percussionist for the metal genre! Legendary 🤘💯🍻

[@deepcreep9849]

Lombardo's drum fills are so poetic.

[@jeffwalker6815]

Slayer's cool and all but I'm kinda glad I get to hear him play with Mike Patton's various bands.

[@cc5053]

I don't know anyone in Slayer, much less their business dealings, but I've experienced something similar to what Dave talked about in a business venture I was part of a few years ago. This is a total guess, but let's put it this way, if a company is spending 90% of their earnings on "management fees" and two of the owners don't want to discuss it then chances are those two owners are part of the "management" that's getting paid the 90% fee. There are three types of income in America: Earned, Investment, and Passive. With a halfway decent lawyer and accountant, and the right paperwork being filed, it's easy to convert earned income into tax deductible business expenses, investments, and passive income streams. Kerry stating that he and Tom only made $114K each reminds me of how CEO's pay themselves relatively small taxable salaries each year and then take many times that in non-taxable stock options, or convert investments into passive income streams that's taxed at a much lower rate. Dave just removed himself from that inner circle by quitting the band years ago. When he found out what was happening to the money, he was told to STFU and leave. Again, I'm just taking a wild guess.

[@davidadaman6]

Sounds right though

[@aaronknight9759]

Yes, I had similar thoughts. Some shell corporate scheme, then stonewall any questions.

[@krymera666x7]

Neil Pert John Bonhom Dave Lombardo Chris Adler Danny Carey Lars Ulrich My favourite and those I grew up listening to.

[@jameza6129]

No Steven Adler? The sound he got out of that 4 piece drum kit on Appetite was insane.

[@bongscott3738]

Neil PEART. John BONHAM. Lars SUCKS.

[@escondidoguitar]

Great list. For myself I'd thrown in Charlie Benante as well.

[@saltpeter7429]

Damn good list. Funny thing, Bostaph would be in mine. Probably because I got to see him tour. I am a wierd cat in the sense that I like all of Slayers albums. No hate from me.

[@snowdenwyatt6276]

@@escondidoguitar Benante is a great drummer and I've always been amused that he's also essentially their backup lead guitarist in the studio if they need him to be.

[@aretnap3653]

I Was *Front Row* for SlayeR During Their 'Re-Inventing TheSteel' Tour with PanterA, in Huntington WestVirginia 2001!

[@jasoncoe4706]

Dave should be a multi millionaire.

[@killbasa2000]

Yeah, well at least Lars is lol

[@jd0879]

@@killbasa2000 Are you seriously comparing Dave (Slayer) to Lars (Metallica) from an income perspective. Metallica has sold 150M albums, Slayer has 20M sold. Just the Black Album has sold almost 50M copies, I don’t even need to go into further details than that why Lars has more money

[@killbasa2000]

@@jd0879 Are you retarded much? It was sarcasm you donkey...of course Dave deserves to make more money, but life isn't fair.

[@davidmorneau5260]

4 millions net worth for Lombardo cmon... Do your homework...

[@johnmayes761]

Say what you want Lombardo is way better than Lars and if Metallica had Lombardo they would be way better

[@PhillipJ497]

Dave is the real deal, a legend and should be a millionaire. Grip Inc. was kick ass.

[@davidmorneau5260]

He is millionaire already

[@davidmorneau5260]

4 millions net worth for Lombardo. Why it was so difficult doing the rechearch by yourself?

[@k.d.kelley2830]

@@davidmorneau5260 Looking up sketchy financials on Wikipedia isn't "research". Lmao.

[@colincourtney2903]

There's a video on KZbin from a drum clinic that Dave done in Belfast where he explained the whole thing. I was there that night and for what it's worth, I believe him. It sounded like he was still pissed about it to this day.

[@metalpractor5150]

They stole from him

[@psydvckk]

ive seen lombardo with testament this year. one of the best drummers on the planet for sure

[@GunDrummer]

Artists get ripped off so bad. I’m seeing it for myself now that my channel is getting well-known. These companies all want shit for free and I’m not about it

[@danieleolivero9395]

Is fucked up how the music industry keep breaking up so many bands, and destroying solo singers...money killed the music star.

[@gregggoss2210]

And video killed the radio star. Oh, oh oh oh ohhh!

[@Ottophil]

@@gregggoss2210 the internet killed talent.

[@jamiehovis7722]

are you kidding? lol. you are clueless about how music industry works.

[@davidmorneau5260]

@@Ottophil Yeah im agree with all those youtuber who dont want to perform on stage can be a huge problem. Back track, modern production too

[@ThaiThom]

Everybody hates on Kerry King - and yes he deserves it - but Tom Araya always gets a free pass and I'm not so sure he deserves that. It's a lot easier to rip on Kerry, but he wasn't the only one in the band who was screwing Dave Lombardo out of money.

[@luigirnotyourbusiness8127]

Dave has been through a lot

[@blown572hemi]

I’ve heard people say that Lombardo is sloppy but being a drummer myself....I can’t hear it. He is one of the greats and you can’t take that fact away from him. Reign in blood is in my top 10 best albums ever.

[@richharris9489]

Every drummer has bad days.

[@nathanbotkin8345]

I see clips of him regularly and there’s not a single thing sloppy… he plays those 16th notes with all that power so there wouldn’t be any hiding any sloppy notes… I’m a drummer myself and I don’t think I could names drummer tighter and more on time than Lombardo

[@cootha8631]

The music industry ripping off bands. Bandmates ripping off each other. A tale as old as time.

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

Construction workers made more than Dave when he was in slayer.

[@brando81]

Right?! I can't believe how little they all made. He said Tom and Kerry only made just over $100k in 2011. That seems insane to me. Packing stadiums for over 20 yrs, and that's all they get paid. Man that's criminal.

[@lindseybethea6979]

I believe Dave's story 100%. He's such a down to earth guy and king is just so egotistical that it makes sense.

[@shawnbruce6934]

I'm 58, have seen Slayer numerous times. Dave Taught Me how to be a Super Heavy Drummer. Every album pushed Me to want to be better. I'm VERY Thankful for this Man.

[@andyhinds542]

A band's drummer is vastly underappreciated. If it was not for the drummer, a great band could suck, so it's about time drummers are seen as the heart of the band that keeps the whole thing together and they should be paid accordingly. Without a drummer, you don't have a band.

[@michaelmillican5592]

I would have liked Megadeth much more if Dave played for them his whole career. Imagine how great they would be. People would have screamed Megadeth instead of Slayer.

[@Wopstar-777]

Ummmmmm maybe just you

[@michaelmillican5592]

@@Wopstar-777 15 other people agree with me. You are the only one. I like reign in blood and a few songs scattered on other albums. Dave is the backbone of slayer.

[@metalhos]

@@michaelmillican5592 even if your math is correct it shows little to nothing how correct your statement is. this entire discussion incl. the clip is about Dave Lombardo and not about Megadeth so for sure you have lots of Lombardo Fans here - me included, who also would love to hear him having played in Megadeth. But you can't ignore the fact that Megadeth never had a drumming issue, rather the opposite all their drummers were legends themselves so there was absolute no need for a replacement and no need to think it would have been any better with Dave.

[@michaelmillican5592]

When you start out saying Even if you're right, do you really need continue?

[@metalhos]

@@michaelmillican5592 ehm, yes, it's necessary when only a small and irrelevant part of a statement was correct.

[@cosmicduality1341]

Hey fellow Canadian,your a good journalist man.

[@peter.4015]

David Lombardo hands down one of the greatest drummert of all time!

[@rns7426]

Geez, Dave is a legend, any drummer that’s heard him play, jaws drop!

[@jimschleich8753]

Why do bands break up? More like how do bands stay together? The struggle is real!!

[@davidmorneau5260]

Araya quit. He was tired of touring since long time ago... Slayer without him is not Slayer. Never you will see Araya on tour again. The guy was sick of touring. Any struggle in the band with Jeff, Tom and Kerry even with Bostaph.

[@mariceldugasan8907]

​@@davidmorneau5260repentless album is fine

[@initial_C]

I'm not a big Slayer fan or a drummer (eternal rhythm guitarist lol) but I admire Dave's drumming. South of Heaven especially has impressed me for years, especially the slow build from the quiet cymbals to the faster, heavier part. I hope the bands he's currently with are working out better for him!

[@guldarheel1204]

The drums in Spirit in Black and War Ensemble tho. OMG

[@tog2842]

An absolute beast and a really lovely man. The guys selling T Shirts made more than Dave, really makes you think.

[@cr4zyJ-79]

Saw him drum for Testament few months ago!

[@robertwalker3357]

How was the drumming that gig? The double bass

[@rickthesentence6073]

Dave Lombardo and Gene Hoglan are my two favourite metal drummers of all time

[@summe1972]

Slayer was the sum of the core group of guys. When Dave wasn't there anymore, I pretty much lost interest. The difference in sound was obvious, and wasn't good.

[@richardcallery477]

Dave Lombardo was, and is still, my hero. I and all of my friends in SF spilled blood at Slayer gigs in the Bay Area in the 80's. Leaving every show bleeding was a badge of honor. As a drummer, Dave Lombardo really has no equal. A living legend.

[@brosefmcman8264]

Basically you could make more money being a plumber than drumming for slayer

[@PaulieMcCoy]

Yup. The plumber gets to go home to his family every night. Sounds like some or all the guys in Slayer were/are getting royally screwed.

[@anthonyrandell2822]

I just watched Dave play with Testament on the Bay Strikes Back tour…he’s an animal! One of the greatest drummers I’ve ever seen play

[@johngammon963]

Slayer: Corporate bitches. Hell; Dave Mustaine is FAR MORE rock and roll and he's a reborn Christian.

[@Venice666]

Slayer screwed Dave 🎃

[@davidmorneau5260]

No money and lawyer screwed the whole situation.

[@s_anno3624]

Incredible drummer, a machine that groove and swing even if the song is fast.

[@humongousfungusamongus3871]

Slayer STILL slays me! 🖤🧡🖤🧡

[@robertwalker3357]

But I think Sodom are heavier

[@Bruno.1027]

I've seen both Dave and Paul Bostaph play with Slayer. Both were fantastic. I liked the Dave show better, mainly because it was a better venue and a better tour and setlist.

[@realmchat6665]

Lombardo is one of the greatest thrash drummers of all time, there was never any reason to screw him over, or to let a bunch of suits rob the band as a whole - not very metal at all.

[@ryanjacobson2508]

A lot of artists get ripped off, usually because they are young, desperate, and will sign anything to advance their career. Sometimes it can take years to escape a bad contract.

[@SilverWealth_Draper_Mint]

Dave is a beautiful man and knows his worth. The rest of the bad are sell outs

[@AaronWilbers]

I've seen Slayer multiple times with Paul and he is a great drummer but they just lose a certain feel when he's playing.

[@cmfranklin1079]

Exactly. Especially during the super fast parts, the sound would get a bit loose at times with Paul. Dave was always 100% locked in, always hitting the transitions. Just a phenomenal drummer.

[@davidmorneau5260]

@@cmfranklin1079 Lombardo was struggling too and he was not always on point. Decade Of Agression is not a great performance by Lombardo. In Big4 tour he was on point. On the final tour Bostaph was really on point too. Bostaph got better hands and creativity, but Lombardo win on the foots department.

[@saltpeter7429]

@@davidmorneau5260 I love the hell out of Bostaph. I feel confused sometimes when I read criticism of him as if he was " just that other guy". My God did that dude have an interesting signature tension, especially in the slower tracks. GEMINI at the end of UNDISPUTED ATTITUDE leaves it all on the table.

[@robertwalker3357]

Should of stayed with Jon Dette

[@AaronWilbers]

@@davidmorneau5260 Lombardo was by his own admission having issues around the time he left the first time. But when he "filled in" in 2003 or so before he rejoined again he was a monster and every time I saw them after that was insane on the kit. Lombardo has a vibe, groove, whatever you want to call it. Slayer sounds different with him on the kit. With Bostaph honestly to me it sounds like anyone else. YMMV of course.

[@SLAYERfan4life88]

As can be said of most band the original lineup IS the band. Seeing or hearing a live show or studio album with those 4 playing their songs is magical. But hearing Dave play, whatever the music makes me want to bang my hand to the verge of not caring if it breaks or not. And he is my personal favorite drummer, bias fully admitted. Catching his drumstick at a 2010 show is a valued collection piece.

[@RollerCoasterLineProductions]

The music industry is full of scoundrels.

[@kingjames6928]

Lombardo and seasons in the abyss are masterclass

[@JayLamm]

Today I learned I've been pronouncing "John Dette" the wrong way for about 20 years.

[@PositivePokemonPlayers]

Same

[@TheCondorjc]

Bruh, makes no sense to me why the rest of Slayer was so complacent with getting thumbs up their asses for little pay. But Dave was the bad guy? Good on Dave for providing his drumming to many other iconic bands. 🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@ronaldtravis970]

Kerry seems very full of himself. Guess he doesn’t mind making a recording company and management millions, and getting the smallest piece of the pie ?? Dave tried to get what should have been theirs $$$ and they are fine with 80s business plan 👍 Imagine Dave wanted to actually get paid LoL 😂

[@stoneysopranoyukon9398]

F*n legend.

[@ChristianIce]

At the "band is only getting 10% of the income for the shows" I knew Dave was right. I know all about the expenses but that's nowhere near a fair deal.

[@OldManDoom]

Kerry says “Jeff actually did something!” Haha Yeah man, he did that and also wrote every important Slayer riff there was. Jeff and Dave were the Slayer sound. And I 100% believe that Dave was right about the money- I guarantee they were getting screwed but pride is a hell of thing when you have to admit that you were naive for a long time

[@robertwalker3357]

Then Jeff wrote Diabolus

[@simonkormendy849]

‘The godfather of double bass’ actually no, the true godfather of double bass would be Phil Taylor from Motorhead, he pioneered double-bass, or double-kick in his work with Motorhead, which inspired the "Big Four" thrash metal bands.

[@pwayne3580]

King is the damn worst.

[@ThaiThom]

While I agree with you, Araya should not be getting a free pass either.

[@jonathanfisher9745]

Dave was phenominal playing with the Misfits at MSG!

[@Raw-guitar]

SLAYER!!!!!!!!!

[@fantomas6196]

The new Dead Cross album comes out tomorrow Dave's on it

[@arbogast4950]

I played with Dave and his band Philm at a dive bar in Allentown. His chops on a 4 piece are excellent. My brother said "We just saw you in 2010 with Slayer", and Dave replied, "Oh, I'm so sorry." Lmao

[@owenboarman5259]

Dave was a big part of why I went to a Slayer show. don't get me wrong the whole band rocked but Dave's drumming made the show.

[@gsxerwhite]

Hell yea, I HAD to see wtf he was doing on certain licks

[@EyeTunz]

What is that "session work' video clip?? haha

[@playdiscgolf1546]

Kerry always wears sunglasses indoors and in interviews. Isn’t that a good sign he may be a DB?

[@MattC.98]

I was 14 in 2012 when I first saw Slayer. I became a huge fan. Then months later they fired Dave Lombardo and I couldn’t believe it. I was a big drummer at the time ( I play guitar more now) and I was so upset they fired Dave Lombardo. Even at that age I knew Dave wasn’t lying and I never went to see Slayer after that because that whole situation left a bad taste in my mouth. I still love listening to them and the first 5 albums but I can’t get over this situation.

[@ms.ellenlevy5667]

Show No Mercy came out 40 years ago this year. 1983 . Man, I started listening to Slayer in 1985. 38 years . Dave deserved better that’s for sure. A co founder member should be paid like one. On the plus side every band that Dave is in sounds 100% better with him behind the drum kit. He kills it at every gig.

[@GinnyAx]

Dave Lombardo Is An Amazing Drummer No One Can Touch Him! Testament Is So Lucky To Have Him❤

[@fayelawson5361]

My opinion is that it shows what kind of people they are when the fired Lombardo, and Jon dette bailed them out. Then kicked him to the curb. No thanks or gratitude there. Jon Dette was and still is a beast on the drums and was a closer fit than bostaph.

[@elcee4556]

One of the best drummers of all time. The real magic of Slayer. I can’t even explain how amazing he is and every Slayer show i’ve seen with him was like on my top 10 shows. (the best Slayer show was the American Carnage tour). Every time he plays Raining Blood or any song in particular, you can feel the power that is his double bass. I just seen him with Testament this year at NYC and it’s like damn he hasn’t lost anything. He’s still as good as when I first saw him with Slayer. If you didn’t see Slayer with Dave then you truly missed out. One of the best bands i’ve ever seen. FUCKING SLAYER!!!

[@celluloidtherapy5003]

With all due respect to Lombardo, Phil Taylor of Motörhead, is The Godfather of double-bass.

[@ea9623]

Ian Paice on fireball

[@mkl5448]

The more interviews I see about this whole thing, the more unlikeable Kerry King is. I believe Dave 100%. Let's just use basic logic here, why on Earth would Dave jeopardize his place in the band if it was not serious? To make 67k a year touring while his bandmates made 114k is obscene and always going to be a problem. Furthermore, the fact that they only made 114k is a major red flag too!!

[@back4onemore]

Grip Inc. was such a killer band. Dave rulz imo 🤘🏻

[@ZxLayER]

Dave has the classic slayer thrash beat. Love the Early albums with him in it

[@mikec7256]

Slayer was lucky to have Dave. Dave is probably one of the best metal drummers of all time. Hopefully he is a permanent drummer for Testament. He brings so much depth to their music.

[@chrischandler889]

Lombardo used to live in my city(victorville). Wonder if he still does?

[@dvswia1831]

$67k for an entire year? WTF?!

[@smokebanshee9298]

2:18 WTF IS THIS GUY AND WHY EVEN SHOW HIM? NOT WEIRD AT ALL?!

[@thomasbochenek8577]

slayer without Dave is just a layer...

[@justinbradley526]

Kerry King couldn't get a dog to bark at him when he left slayer. Nobody was interested in bringing him in, he said so himself. Dave Lombardo is universally revered by his peers and has a line of world class musicians lining up to have him drum for them to this day. Look at his media. Constantly meeting new musicians with a smile beaming across his face.

[@johnburens3395]

I'll be seeing Dave this Halloween with ST and John 5. I've seen him before and he kills it!