These tests are not scientific at all. This video was made strictly for fun. Both of these are great and very fun to shoot. Thank you for watching!
@joaopedrobaggio44752 жыл бұрын
I love your channel, never miss a vídeo, keep doing this amazing work.
@GunsOfTheWorld2 жыл бұрын
@@joaopedrobaggio4475 I appreciate the kind words brother!
@geraltriv1472 жыл бұрын
More of this test please!! So nice!! Thanks!!
@poudrenoirearmesmodernes47582 жыл бұрын
Thanks merci 😍🇨🇵🇨🇵
@FrankSlw2 жыл бұрын
Tu canal es increíble nunca me pierdo tus videos sigue asi nunca pares, saludos desde mexico 🇲🇽 :)
@SeanDahle2 жыл бұрын
Both are great but I'd take the PPSH-41. More powerful caliber, more robust and super simple. Also a more comfortable stock. Fun fact: Germany actually attempted to copy the PPSH because troops liked it so much
@balsa01082 жыл бұрын
For penetration is PPSH-41, but 9mm have HP, JHP(ammo that makes bigger wound than FMJ without kevlar or any other body armor). I think that MP-40 is compact, FA controlable and lighter. PPSH-41 have high rate of fire and it is chambered in 7,62×25(good for penetration), i think it is more accurate that MP-40(becouse of wobly overlapping stock on MP-40).
@yenle72962 жыл бұрын
ppsh is heavier, some has low quality reputation but the ammo and fire rate packs a punch. Even the drum mag is heavy, ppsh is heavy in general. Mp40 lighter, more accurate but less damage less weight. If I have low ammo and enemy are far away, i use mp40, if u wanna sweep the floor, use ppsh. For me I want ppsh41 with 71 drum mag becuz I'm not sweeping or sniping, I'm having fun but ill also be happy to get mp40 and see how it goes
@kiennguyenanh84982 жыл бұрын
What was the name of the copy version
@nuraly782 жыл бұрын
@@yenle7296 PPSh-41 is more accrute than MP40 due to longer barrel, higher muzzle speed and small compensator. Morevoer, 7,62×25 round is more powerful than 9×19 on most distances, as its higher velocity overshadows less mass of the bullet. I have TT and CZ-75. TT's stopping power is noticably higher.
@yenle72962 жыл бұрын
@@nuraly78 oh ok thats new but the barrel part make sense. Yeh good but in general if i wanna rock i get ppsh of i wanna chill imma have mp40
@Sebas.5042 жыл бұрын
Its funny how people are choosing their gun based on stoping power & fire rate, as if any of these two guns wouldn’t send you 6 feet under before you can blink once. One well placed bullet is all it takes. Remember kids; real life isn’t call of duty.
@thomasholohan40902 жыл бұрын
True
@NowCheckYourSound Жыл бұрын
Golden words
@Dinguskhan5003 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but one does it faster lol
@johnsheetz6639 Жыл бұрын
those if I see you first that's your ass. Weapons.
@jonh101 Жыл бұрын
@@Dinguskhan5003 quickest hands in the west
@The-Blue-Knight2 жыл бұрын
Wow these guns are much larger than I thought they are. Video games make them seem so small.
@jamesdragonforce2 жыл бұрын
Video games aren’t reality friend.
@pastelfromgreece96032 жыл бұрын
Especially the mp-40
@The-Blue-Knight2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdragonforce yeah no shit
@Livelaughandlaughmore2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdragonforce no mames wey
@jamesdragonforce2 жыл бұрын
@@Livelaughandlaughmore ?
@jamesprout71562 жыл бұрын
I’ve fired both and while the MP-40 is one of the smoothest firing guns I’ve shot, it doesn’t have the punch or the rate of fore that the ppsh-41 has. German soldiers used them frequently because of their reliability and rate of fire. They were even rechambered to fire 9mm by the Germans.
@haroldgodwinson8322 жыл бұрын
Rate of fire is a two-edged sword. Yes, handy in certain situations BUT, not only does it typically result in reduced accuracy, it also increases ammo consumption.
@webleypug2 жыл бұрын
Sam Peckinpah's "Cross of Iron" shows German soldier Steiner (James Coburn) ditching his MP in favour of a PPSH.
@thomass1891 Жыл бұрын
@@haroldgodwinson832 did you just point out to us that a faster rate of fire increases ammo consumption?
@haroldgodwinson832 Жыл бұрын
@@thomass1891 No. I'm trying to point out that high cyclic rate is cool bananas until you're standing there with your dick hanging out, and no frinkin' ammo.
@argi0774 Жыл бұрын
@@haroldgodwinson832 Accuracy doesn't matter in the scenarios these weapons were built for. They were not made for precise single shots over long distances. They were made to quickly cover an area in close combat.
@frank42822 жыл бұрын
82 years passed and these are as lethal as before.
@kristjanjonsson77232 ай бұрын
Yes. Because we as a species are very biologicaly similar to the people from that time period 😉😁
@liammaguire94742 жыл бұрын
That smile at 1:45 says it all
@АлакПатрова Жыл бұрын
Yep. Such a beautiful gun
@TheLisek9265 ай бұрын
In Poland we say 'Nic tak nie cieszy, jak seria z pepeszy' ( Nothing is more enjoyable than burst fire with ppsh )
@fratercontenduntocculta81612 жыл бұрын
No matter how many times I see an MP40 fire, it always surprises me how manageable it is. I would rather have the PPSH, it's ammo is truly fascinating to me. I own a TTC pistol and it's the most accurate handgun I own. 7.62x25 is capable of approaching 5.56mm carbine terminal effectiveness when fired out of a barrel of at least 16".
@TheGreenViewer456 Жыл бұрын
@@FirstLast-gv1zlok
@honorshot5448 Жыл бұрын
Not a lot of people talk about how the MP38 was originally a vehicle crew weapon, it's kinda lame for a reason, it shoots slower; saves ammo, has a folding stock with no cheekweld; compact, this is a great gun for vehicle crews, but Germany definitely could've used a better submachine gun for their infantry. Something for example like the MP28 or MP34 which both could use a bayonet, had fixed stocks and had a faster rpm than the MP40.
@Daniel-du7pv6 ай бұрын
bro, "close to 5.56 terminal effectiveness" ? you must be kidding
@crypticreality84843 ай бұрын
The 7.62 Tokarev is a reimagined German round. It was the 7.63x25 Mauser
@GermanPredatorHawk2 жыл бұрын
I am German and I am a Patriot. But I heard that German Eastfront Veterans prefered the PPSH-41. Its still a great and reliable weapon tho and when it comes to MGs and Tanks I would always choose the german ones but in this particularly case I tend to the Russian Sub Machine Gun, at least in Close Combat.
@GermanSharp12 жыл бұрын
Ppsh41 was the second most used smg on eastern front by germany. Even converting some to 9mm ppsh41(r).
@GermanPredatorHawk2 жыл бұрын
@@GermanSharp1 I knew they were used a lot but the convertion to 9mm was new to me. Thanks for this information.
@inteuz2 жыл бұрын
@@GermanSharp1 Actually it was called the MP 717(r)
@GermanSharp12 жыл бұрын
@@GermanPredatorHawk they also converted some to 7.62x25 the ammo used in c96 mauser pistol
@GermanSharp12 жыл бұрын
@@inteuz my source says 9mm conversion was ppsh41(r) was
@patrickmcglynn53832 жыл бұрын
That soda never hurt anyone. You monsters!
@DynamicDuo7958 ай бұрын
Except maybe give diabetes to millions around the world. Hickok45 took care of that problem in one of his videos.
@billylee73984 ай бұрын
I could of drank that. Me thristy and want flavor carbonated drank
@yeildo1492Ай бұрын
They were asking for it.....
@patrickmcglynn5383Ай бұрын
@@yeildo1492 that soda was no angel
@yeildo1492Ай бұрын
@@patrickmcglynn5383 🤣🤣🤣
@EatMySauce05102 жыл бұрын
“C’mon Dimitri, Lead the charge!” URAAA!!!
@Ir1nOfficial2 ай бұрын
real
@_SirRacha_ Жыл бұрын
MP40: Check out my fire -rate! PPSH: Pshh.
@garrisonnichols8072 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely taking the MP40 simply because it shoots 9mm Luger which I could find alot easier.
@tls61985 ай бұрын
Tokarev 7.62x25 is easy as well
@kacatriku Жыл бұрын
The movie "Stalingrad" a German movie, a German officer tell his soldiers if they find any ppsh 41 take them because they are better than their mp 40. In this test, despite two guns are being shot by the same shooter, it is not the way to test the accuracy and the penetration power. Guns needs to be fixated on a clamp or something like that. The way he keeps the ppsh is not the same as he keeps the mp. His left hand on mp stands on the magazine, on the ppsh stands very close to the right hand which makes the control harder, So not a true test. My opinion, ppsh wins in every kind of competition vs mp.
@oberkommandowest48362 жыл бұрын
Theres a reason why German troops prefer captured PPSHs over their own MP40s
@mushroom11g552 жыл бұрын
All soldiers like foreign weapons. Except maybe Japanese weapons, I think they racistly thought they were inferior weapons, the same way we see Chinese weapons today, cheap copycat weapons.
@martin018esp62 жыл бұрын
Realmente muchas de las veces no intercambiaban sus mp40 por las ppsh si no que lo hacían con el Kar 98
@ChocorocK2 жыл бұрын
It's not that they preferred it, it's that they needed every SMG they could get their hands on.
@IvanIvanov-yl4mz2 жыл бұрын
@@martin018esp6 That's right. The PPSh was the main weapon in the SA, while in the Wehrmacht it was the Kar 98. The MP was relatively few in number compared to the PPSh.
@ИванДьяков-х9к2 жыл бұрын
У него скорострельность выши , с него удобнее стрелять .
@Savchenkov12 жыл бұрын
I've owned and fired both of these weapons. But my favourite is the PPSH. It would empty out a drum magazine without a single stoppage, but such a high rate of fire you could find yourself out of gas at that critical moment!
@ИванДьяков-х9к2 жыл бұрын
Мой лежал 70 лет в земле и стреляет без единой осечки
@янешучу Жыл бұрын
@@ИванДьяков-х9к ты где его откопал? Если и откопал, то законно держать такое оружие? Нужны на него документы?
@bobsyoruncle4583 Жыл бұрын
the ppsh spews out bullets at a much faster rate - about double the mp40 - which is a slight drawback because in a firefight you could quickly burn through a lot of ammo, but in urban and close quarters combat where a split second can determine life or death it has an edge over the mp40 which is probably why many German soldiers preferred it.
@generalhorse493 Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard that this is a myth created by Stalingrad. The soviets used the ppsh and its fire rate very well there, and the german troops realized they needed to swap their Mauser rifles with smgs to match the soviets there. But German logistics plus smgs being concentrated in the German officers meant that German troops had to use captured Ppshs to get their needed smgs.
@Wolfspaine7N611 ай бұрын
@@generalhorse493True, in the German army the K98’s were issued at a 10+ times rate compared to the mp38/mp40.
@TheTGRproductions Жыл бұрын
The German in me says MP-40! But my Soviet heart says PPSH-41! I'd love either!
@noble98642 жыл бұрын
Schmeisser versus Shpagin! Let's go!! By the way, I know that Hugo Schmeisser didn't invent the MP-40. It was developed by Heinrich Vollmer and Berthold Geipel. Schmeisser just owned a factory that made them. Even the MP-40 magazines bare his name as he had a patent for the straight magazine design.
@andrzejgdynia22122 жыл бұрын
A glance of an eye at his face after MP-40 full auto, and after PPSh full auto. Tells everything.
@chrisjohnson1146 Жыл бұрын
Just like when R Lee Ermy compared the Thompson to the MP40... it really comes down to the shooter. Both have their advantages in different areas. MP40's slower rate of fire makes it more accurate. The PPSH's rate of fire makes it more powerful.
@kenc92362 жыл бұрын
Great camera angles. Good job men. Keep up the good work.
@GunsOfTheWorld2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man I appreciate it!
@kingzyjhiepelongco35932 жыл бұрын
PPSH has an High Fire Rate
@codyvon.2 жыл бұрын
I really loved both but PPSh-41 is mostly my favorite
@AudieHolland10 ай бұрын
German units usually only had the platoon leader carry an MP-40, while his men carried rifles or the light machine gun. Soviet units had far more soldiers armed with PPSH-41s because these could be produced quicker and more efficiently than rifles. The large ammo drums used onthe PPSH-41 weren't very practicable though. Each drum took longer to reload and it was difficult to carry spare drums on you. I believe they also issued PPSH-41s with 30 round magazines later on for that reason. And of course the PPS-43 which followed was produced in even larger numbers and looks more 'svelte' as in a 'Russian MP-40.'
@patrickguerriero54252 жыл бұрын
They don’t speak a word off camera either. Their thoughts and emotions are conveyed through their eyes
@paulcollis76512 жыл бұрын
My two favourite ww2 smgs and a really good comparison shoot. Unfortunately I have deactivated models only as we are not so lucky in the UK with our constitution as the USA and other countries. Police, armed forces and criminals can have live automatic weapons, not responsible adult enthusiasts. Really good to see how my guns would've fired. Many thanks for this. PS, although a collector of fallschirmjager items, the ppsh41 features on my mannequin as it was a more reliable and hardier combat weapon
@valerianocuomo9962 жыл бұрын
England is only a small isla miserabile, lose all industry, london is not England, true country is fish and chips...italy is the 2⁰industry in Europa, supercar,army navy air Force all is made in italy, italy export, UK import because is a country of shit. Death queen, a old racist suck dick s
@АлакПатрова Жыл бұрын
Thats how gun laws work. They protect criminals.
@Green08712 ай бұрын
У нас тоже сложно с оружием для гражданского применения, Автоматическое оружие под запретом, ограничения в емкости магазинов и прочее...Полагаю, у американских граждан нашего оружия на руках больше, чем у самих граждан России)
@rmt64952 жыл бұрын
Both SMG are awesome but ppsh 41 is my favorite
@jacobzehner20042 жыл бұрын
Ppsh 41 with a 72 round drum magazine.
@Sen-115DK2 жыл бұрын
* 71 rounds *
@rider44402 жыл бұрын
He didnt use that in the tests becuase the drum mag is shit and would also give the psh numerous advantages
@balsa01082 жыл бұрын
I think that drum mags are not that bad but they are heavy and it takes time to load it. Also, gun can jam more often then with regular box magazine(35 if I remember). They used drums becouse high rate of fire, so gun will easily eat all ammo!
@SeanDahle2 жыл бұрын
Sadly the drum mags were notorious for malfunction
@jessicasimp44592 жыл бұрын
For me, the PPSH41 because it’s basically the FN Minimi of SMGs. A small caliber cartridge combined with a very high RPM and with the cool drum magazines of course.
@balsa01082 жыл бұрын
Yes, but drum mags are heavy, and I think every soldier holds 1-2 drumags(or one drum mag in gun and 2 box magazines with capacity of 35 i think)
@noncombatant69452 жыл бұрын
@@balsa0108 солдату полагался 1 барабанный магазин в самом ППШ и 1 запасной в специальной сумке
@57protazan392 жыл бұрын
Structurally different weapons.
@andreit310011 ай бұрын
Both have advantages and disadvantages. But the production of PPSh took significantly less labor costs, it was cheaper. And the Soviet army has much more of these submachine guns, than Germans have MP-40, 38. The PPSh is not the only submachine gun in the Soviet (Red) Army. There was also a SudAev submachine gun. It is better to write in English PPSh. Sh is the initial sound in the surname of the designer ShpAgin. In the Russian language there is a separate letter "Ш". In English, you have to use two letters "Sh".
@TheVellar2 жыл бұрын
Depends for what purpose.To be short for field combat mp40 and PPSH-41 for city/fight.
@LacklusterThoughts2 жыл бұрын
Ironically, both sides were supposedly envious of each others' smgs.
@mushroom11g552 жыл бұрын
Soldiers tend to envy foreign weapons
@ashleyoasis79482 жыл бұрын
And I thought the first gun rivalry was Vietnam with the AK vs M16
@ZA-VII Жыл бұрын
Talks about the curiosity to use another weapon, also it's war they got what they found to fight.
@FirstStrikeJAS2 жыл бұрын
holy shit these look like they're fresh out of the factory
@freekillspider88902 жыл бұрын
1:44 you can see him smiling after the firing :)
@CountryFenderBass4 ай бұрын
My Opa was in the 8th Panzer Division 43rd Abt Panzerjager. In the 70s I had a book on military small arms. I showed Opa the MP40 and asked him if he carried it. He said no and took the book and flipped through the pages and showed me a Ppsh and pointed at it. Here that’s it. I asked why he carried that one he said. “Because it worked” Then 5 years ago I bought a book about the 8th Panzer Division and in the book was a mannequin dressed in a Panzerjager uniform carrying a Ppsh… I found that interesting
@woland66672 жыл бұрын
У меня прадед с такой пушкой до Кёнигсберга дошёл, эх отличный аппарат Эхо войны всё же, Мечтаю так же вдоволь и от души пострелять из культового немецкого пистолета пулемёта мп 38-40, такая вещь в хозяйстве пригодиться спасибо за интересное видио
@Dreamisover2 жыл бұрын
а теперь сам до киева грунтовыми водами дойдёшь?
@woland66672 жыл бұрын
@@Dreamisover намёк типо под землей лежать и матушка природа тебя сама до Киева до толкает? Просто не особо понял вообще обращение в мой адрес
@prostovolk74272 жыл бұрын
@@Dreamisover В армию ступай ВСУ тебя не хватает..........................
@hornypony28622 жыл бұрын
пригодиться ещье какь
@loko4502 жыл бұрын
Паш больше ценился, что лепишь, немцы брали его на поле боя, а дед твой mp подобрал?)))
@mash8050 Жыл бұрын
2 Legends...like the STG44 and the AK47
@tls61985 ай бұрын
I saw STG44 review on Brandon's channel.. IMO i wouldn't trust my life to this reliability
@hissingsid68542 жыл бұрын
MP40. Lighter and more compact, especially with the folding stock. As a soldier you’d spend waaaaaaaaay more time lugging the damn things around than shooting them so as long as the weapon is reliable and able to get the job done I’d go with weight and ergonomics every day of the week. Plus you’d need a second man with a wheelbarrow to carry all the ammunition for the PPSH. 😛
@hellotheremyolfriend2 жыл бұрын
best response here imo. biggest factor is humping around as a soldier.
@maharaja73912 жыл бұрын
Old guns, buts never gets old.
@redtobertshateshandles Жыл бұрын
That bottle shoot demonstrates kinetic energy pretty well. Good shooting.
@ATF.California2 жыл бұрын
That PP is a Fucking Monster 👹 lol
@levijohnson60532 жыл бұрын
I love both of these guns, but I would personally want a mp40 over the PP
@Jim0232 жыл бұрын
it's so chill to watch a video of somebody shooting some guns without commentary
@Russão0002 жыл бұрын
Stalin's Brrrrt machine vs Facist Ratatta
@clutchmctryhard31102 жыл бұрын
God I love both of these SMGs but I gotta go with the PPSH-41 on this one
@ОлегШепыкин Жыл бұрын
Папаша тоже держится за магазин, как и МР-40. Если что, Папаша-это ППШ.
@FerretCuddles2 жыл бұрын
MP-40 for me. More easily controlled and less weight to deal with.
@joe125ful2 жыл бұрын
More recoil and worst accuraci hmm.. And weight its not that much different 34grams+- with normal mags.
@todyboy97442 жыл бұрын
I agree
@swe17332 жыл бұрын
The difference in weight is 0.034 kg. It can't even be called an advantage. By the way, faster-firing guns have easier recoil control. Just compare how his body jerks (1:24), (1:42).
@morranon73402 жыл бұрын
@@swe1733 "easier recoil control" yeah we all saw how he hit less rounds with the faster firing gun....
@morranon73402 жыл бұрын
@@joe125ful The MP40 has less recoil and better accuracy though
@Александр159-п4ф Жыл бұрын
После отстрела надо отсоединять магазин,и только потом передёрнуть затвор,произвести контрольный спуск-и поставить потом на предохранитель.А вы всё заглядываете через выбрасыватель,а если темно на улице-так же будете делать.
@eugengorbacev202110 ай бұрын
Принцип открытого затвора позволяет проверять наличие патрона в патроннике без снятия магазина.. ( в этом и были плюсы и соответственно минусы системы Шпагина)
@Oct14cya2 жыл бұрын
I’ve shot both. Three malfunctions with the PPSh 41 none with the MP-40. MP-40 extremely controllable the PPSh 41 not bad but not as good. I’ll take the MP-40.
@DmitryiYo2 жыл бұрын
Наверное, твой ППШ был с большим износом деталей.
@ИванДьяков-х9к2 жыл бұрын
@@DmitryiYo да он и копаный отлично стреляет
@Shadow_company.2 жыл бұрын
I love mp40s
@hangar18megadethfan422 жыл бұрын
@Erik Veron based profile picture!
@raulduke61052 жыл бұрын
PPSH any day and twice on Sunday!
@briankennedy70402 жыл бұрын
Very nice ...from what I've heard and what you showed . ..PPSH 41 is what I would choose. I'm curious if it has dirt jamming issues like the Mp40 . Thanks for the video
@danielpoenaru13612 жыл бұрын
It has even for water or freezing.
@MajinLiveTV Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Not trying to be a armchair quarterback or anything but I did notice you flinch right before each trigger pull. Maybe you are not used to these beautiful antiques but this is extremely common and even seasoned shooters don't realize they do it. Interesting that your flinch tends to send your rounds only up based on the pattern and spread of the two guns. You can probably just compensate for it but a better way would be to train yourself to correct it. One way to do that is to load a magazine with a random amount of live and dummy rounds and when firing it take your time with each trigger pull. Focus on your movement and take it as slow as you possibly can. You'll notice the flinch when you pull the trigger on a dummy round. The idea is to stop that and to keep pulling the trigger slowly until you no longer do it on a dummy or live round.
@urm0mm4762 жыл бұрын
Yeah I would say maybe PPSH
@Ivan_Ivanov_2 жыл бұрын
ППШ по «веселей» конечно 😁
@СаняШОНТ Жыл бұрын
Это точно
@e.m.h.5433 Жыл бұрын
PPSH-41. Battle proven to be much more reliable than MP40. On top of that, with the drum mag it was 71 rounds vs 32 in MP40. No wonder Germans were dropping MP40 for PPSH-41 whenever opportunity came.
@impcec67345 ай бұрын
The ironic part is that German troops preferred the PPSH and Soviet troops really loved the MP-40! I guess it’s true what they say: the grass is always greener on the other side.
@anltekin542 жыл бұрын
PPSH 41 VERY NİCE!
@williamkennedy54922 жыл бұрын
The Germans valued captured PPSH-41 above their own MP40 in WW2 , and i think that says it all
@R18Y2 жыл бұрын
Not quite. Both sides valued _any_ submachine gun they could find as they were almost always better than bolt action rifles in the context of the fighting they were involved in. They absolutely did not have the luxury on the Eastern Front to pick between the two (especially the Axis). The PPS43 (PPSH replacement) of course appears to have taken many of the features of the MP40 including the slower rate of fire and folding stock.
@57protazan392 жыл бұрын
@@R18Y The most important thing of the PPS43 is its excellent characteristics and ease of manufacture.
@bhoward93782 жыл бұрын
This is quite possibly the most based video ever poasted by any channel. Thanks!
@GunsOfTheWorld2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it man! Thank you!
@alexvisser59132 жыл бұрын
It would be a mp40 for me because if the controlability yes even if the ppsh can singlefire
@av8tion Жыл бұрын
I'll take one of each please...
@dankim7488 Жыл бұрын
The PPS-43 is sort of like a hybrid between the MP40 and PPSH. Its all metal construction and folding stock have the features of the Mp40. Its ammo, handguard, and magazine takes that of the PPSH. Honestly the PPS is my favorite SMG of the war. But between these two id take the MP40
@ОлегМочульский-й7з Жыл бұрын
Прицельная дальность стрельбы у ППШ почти в два раза дальше.Ну и магазин барабанный дает в ближнем бою(особенно в городских условиях) преимущество.И минусов-вес тяжелее и барабанный магазин долго с наряжать.
@thomasholohan40902 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Both are useful military weapons. But by comparison the M1 carbine was much lighter - at a bit over 5 lbs -, fired a significantly more powerful round, was more accurate, and had a much greater effective range than either the MP40 or the PPSH. I believe I'd take the carbine and accept SA over full auto.
@charles19642 жыл бұрын
There's a reason the Carbine was the most recaptured weapon on the Western Front
@sking34922 жыл бұрын
Always liked the carbine.
@charles19642 жыл бұрын
@@6610storm 7.65X25mm Tokarev = 85g FMJ @1630ft/s and 514ft/lbs (VERSUS) 7.62X33 .30 Carbine = 110g FMJ @1990ft/s and 967ft/lbs...There's for your Bullsh1t...
@6610storm2 жыл бұрын
@@charles1964That's true, but my opinion it isn't only about energy, i'm talking about penetration standard army cartridges.Tokarev have steel core and that's the reason...
@charles19642 жыл бұрын
@@6610storm The vast majority of Tokarev cartridges are FMJ, but even with steel cored ammo, the metric for judging stopping power is the same. Terminal Ballistics at Target = Stopping Power; over penetration is just wasted energy...From a 12inch Barrel @100M -> 7.65X25mm =750 Joules; 9X19mm = 660 Joules; 7.62X33 =1310 Joules...The figures show the Tokarev superior to 9X19 Para but Sh1tting on the Carbine's effectiveness is a mistake, go ask Raphael Trujillo or Bugsy Siegel their opinion of the 7.62X33's Stopping Power?
@stevewheatley2432 жыл бұрын
I'd rather have a Thompson than either of these.
@ЮрийМакаров-д1т2 ай бұрын
1:29 как то быстро патроны закончились, в Голливудских фильмах минут на 15 хватает)))
@patgray54022 жыл бұрын
I think PPSH wins. If only they had been made to better spec.
@NealB12311 ай бұрын
If you were a Red Army grunt hauling around an unwieldy Mosin-Nagant with a 5 round mag and a notoriously difficult bolt and someone suddenly handed you a PPSH-41, you'd think a miracle had just occurred.
@whichinghour11 ай бұрын
1:24 dang i though call of duty world at war got the firing sound effect wrong but it’s pretty spot on
@DarkHonorEntertainment2 жыл бұрын
I will say mp40 in my opinion
@Mustang_1965 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, couldn't hear you over my fire drowning PPSH.
@smolnui77772 жыл бұрын
Главное нет сравнения дальности поражения, у ППШ +1/3
@Ivan_Ivanov_2 жыл бұрын
Что означает +1/3 ?
@gesposito22 Жыл бұрын
This was really fn cool. Thanks for the vid
@andrewforward38122 жыл бұрын
I shot the MP40 several times on a military range. Military Jokey target at 340m. 10 trigger pulls, each 2 rounds, prone, every pull one diving jockey. Nothing to complain. The German army had at the beginning a lot of jamming with the MP40, until they did find out, that the problems were the magazines. Which was later solved and it was reliable.
@57protazan392 жыл бұрын
340 m of mp40? A joke?
@andrewforward38122 жыл бұрын
@@57protazan39 not at all - you better place yourselfe not 300 in front of a mp40 with trained shooter 😉
@57protazan392 жыл бұрын
@@andrewforward3812 Maybe 300 feet?
@andrewforward38122 жыл бұрын
@@57protazan39 nope, 300+ m, just come by and we will proof it together, such easy
@57protazan392 жыл бұрын
@@andrewforward3812 I do not dispute your personal achievements, but the data of practical shooting are different: PPSH-150 m (from the memories of soldiers even less) MP40-100m, Thompson-50 m.
@9261-k6l2 жыл бұрын
The DUX-53 and DUX-59 were submachine guns developed at the Oviedo Arsenal in Spain. They were based directly on the design of the Finnish 9 mm Model 44 submachine gun, which in turn was based on the Soviet PPS-43. Фирмы Аншутц и Маузер жо 1980 года копировали советский пистолет пулемет. тут даже не надо спорить. ППС - лучший в мире.
@GHOST_1915 Жыл бұрын
ppsh is winner
@JimmyPtheman2 жыл бұрын
Both, but I lean towards the MP40 for lightness, control of fire and ease of use in combat. These range tests are not a good combat comparison. PPSH-41 you will blow through rounds, its bulky and a pain to lug around all day. STG44 over both of these though! :)
@christopherbrice54732 жыл бұрын
You would do short bursts in real combat so that's not an issue. Although the Nazis probably preferred to have controllable mag dumps when dealing with unarmed civilians. Design philosophy, I suppose.
@niktendoswitch36012 жыл бұрын
You gotta get your hands on some old Zastava rifles if you haven’t already :)
@slavavsg83092 жыл бұрын
На дюймовых сосновых досках пробитие пули проверяют а не на бутылках газировки
@yeildo1492Ай бұрын
These are great videos. Thank you!
@beachcomber1able Жыл бұрын
I'd have thought the German gun with its folding stock would be superior in suburban room to room combat situations. Lighter, shorter, thus more wieldy. 🙂
@hobbitreet Жыл бұрын
Which would of these would I want in combat? The PPSH-41; the capacity of the drum magazine alone makes all the difference in the world.
@wassim66112 жыл бұрын
Mp40💪😈🇩🇪
@specialworld50802 жыл бұрын
Ppsh-41💪🏻😎🇷🇺⭐💀
@DayOfTheRopeАй бұрын
A copy from suomi kp31@@specialworld5080
@williamkoppos7039 Жыл бұрын
If I could own One single firearm, any one I wanted, it would be an MP-40. Just breaths cool. Question-why the skips in the PPSH FA footage? Jams?
@patrickguerriero54252 жыл бұрын
MP-40 is cool and looks more controllable but who wouldn’t take the PPSh over it? The round is a heavy hitter (a little surprised one didn’t go through and through a cinder block) and the rate of fire is legendary
@joe125ful2 жыл бұрын
@@VrilWaffen Or if you want clear room fast:)
@ashleyoasis79482 жыл бұрын
Yeah the MP looks more tech like sorta like a giant tech 9 but the PP I can see how that transformed into an AK
@joe125ful2 жыл бұрын
@@ashleyoasis7948 Tech?Both are very tech in other way. MP have full metal body and PP have a lot more ergonomics with that wooden body.
@trolltalwar Жыл бұрын
the rate of fire is exactly why i wouldnt take the ppsh41. completely unnecessary and a big time waste of ammo
@ПавелКузнецов-ф3т Жыл бұрын
Most important about PPSH is that at the end of the war there was 6.000.000 PPSH and only 1.200.000 MP38/40.
PPS, or Sudaev Automatic Semi Machine Gun is the best weapon of its kind in WW2 because it as as good as PPSh, and suuuuper cheap in production.
@felipea.garcianeculan53922 жыл бұрын
Two great weapons Greetings from Chile 🇨🇱
@GunsOfTheWorld2 жыл бұрын
Greetings!
@raunovittaniemi49052 жыл бұрын
Very nice test...two off THE best maskinpistols on wwll........
@DynamicDuo7958 ай бұрын
The MP40 is superior in terms of accuracy but the PPSH-41 is the better of the two in terms of rate of fire, stopping power, magazine capacity and reliability. The 9mm is a more accurate round, but the 7.62x25mm combines velocity of the 9mm with the stopping power of the .45 ACP. Another bonus that PPSH-41 has over the MP40, much like the Thompson for example, is that it can be used as a melee weapon due to it having a solid wooden stock. You can easily beat someone with it because of that. Imagine being in a firefight and suddenly you and your opponent run of ammo. Hitting or striking someone on the head with the PPSH-41 is like getting hit in the head with a baseball bat. The MP40's collapsible stock isn't really well suited for hand to hand combat, all though it still could theoretically speaking. The PPSH-41 is the best out of the two. There's a reason why the PPSH-41 is still remarkably in service in several countries and by many groups and militias world wide to this very day.
@FerretCuddles5 ай бұрын
#autismspeaks
@Kerberos-hx7xf3 ай бұрын
@@FerretCuddles Aren’t you a part of that organization?
@DynamicDuo795Ай бұрын
@@Kerberos-hx7xf, he probably is. He's going around commenting dumb shit on other videos based on his comments history.
@sergk6487 Жыл бұрын
It is necessary to consider the cost of producing these weapons and the possibility of manufacturing by people who do not have skills. In the conditions of war, this is very important.
@michaellynes35402 жыл бұрын
PPSH-41. More firepower.
@sigfried455 ай бұрын
Note to self: never hide behind cinderblock walls in a firefight.
@benquinneyiii7941 Жыл бұрын
The battle of Stalingrad
@honorshot5448 Жыл бұрын
Not a lot of people talk about how the MP38 was originally a vehicle crew weapon, it's kinda lame for a reason, it shoots slower; saves ammo, has a folding stock with no cheekweld; compact, this is a great gun for vehicle crews, but Germany definitely could've used a better submachine gun for their infantry. Something like the MP28 or MP34 which both could use a bayonet, had fixed stocks and had a faster rpm than the MP40.
@continentalmilitaria2 жыл бұрын
I used to have an MP40 and now have 2 PPSH41s. For the fun factor the PPSH41 wins but not for ergonomics where the better one is the MP40. The ergo on a PPSH41 with a drum is terrible not to mention the problem of not having a pistol grip. The PPSH41 has the upper hand on the power of the round, solid construction, reliability and that it is auto and semi fire. The MP40 wins on ergonomics, magazine changing and handling. Just note that the Russians then made the PPS43 with a stick magazine a mag well like and a folding stock like an MP 40, what does that tell us? In the choice of only these two, I guess I would take the PPSH41 with the stick mags. If the PPS43 has a selector switch in my opinion it would be the best subgun of WW2 with the best features of both the PPSH41 and MP40 less the selector switch. Also the PPSH41 is only an inch shorter than an AK47. In a modern SHTF situation where I needed a subgun I would take the Vz26.
@mangopastor3 ай бұрын
The fire rate on the mp40 is slower because it makes it easier to keep firing at the target while shooting, which is something you can't do with the ppsh unless you're very close to the target, also the mp40 has better range and accuracy, the germans didn't attempt to copy the ppsh, they rechambered it to 9mm since they captured so many of them and germany wasn't making that caliber, the quality of the ppsh is sometimes far too simple, sometimes russian gun makers didn't make parts of the gun the same size as other makers