Gustov Mahler Symphony #8 N.Y. Philharmonic broadcast 4/9/1950

[@RevMikeBlack]

Wow! This is absolutely amazing. I've never heard a wire recorder sound so good. I'm really surprised that the old wire still holds so much information. Thanks for sharing!

[@valvelive5428]

I am astonished at moreover an air check of FM of the 1950s remaining by wire recorder. I found out that this model adopts AC bias. For the first time, I learned that it has such high quality sound quality.Thank you for the upload of a rare sound source.

[@MVVblog]

I don't know if there is an output on that recorder but it can be very interesting to record the audio directly. Thanks for sharing this video!

[@amberola1b]

There is an external output, but I don't know how to record it directly to my laptop I haven't gotten that savvy with my new laptop yet

[@mspysu79]

His this ben properly digitized from the line out of the machine? This is probably the only surviving copy of this broadcast.

[@wadericejr2788]

No, there are numerous air check recordings of the broadcast that exist. Probably the best-sounding one is the one that was remastered for the large NYPO Mahler box from years ago.

[@ferminsalaberri]

Hi! Are you sure you get the correct date? There is another video of a recording of this claiming to be recorded in the same date but i dont think it can be the same. The technique of the singers sounds different and the choir sounds much clearer in here. Eitherway I loved this recording so so much. Thank you for posting. This is my favorite version by far.

[@amberola1b]

All I can say is the person who originally made and owned these recordings made specific notes on little slips of paper and included them in each canister of each spool of wire so that was the date that he wrote down.

[@ferminsalaberri]

@@amberola1b ok thank you very much! Could I bother you with something else? This is the recording i am referring to. Do you think is the same one? Same night, same performers? Thank you for your input. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmmrgIijrr5obMU

[@gaetanomariapiscopo5637]

This is a trasure tha should be shared and remastered for posterity...

[@amberola1b]

definitely. And the person doing the recording knew what he was doing in regards to the signal levels, because alot of times people used to either under or over record the signal and it would sound like absolute crap and not worth transferring.

[@patrickoreilly271]

cool - do you have any other NY Philharmonic concerts?

[@amberola1b]

I might. Some years ago I bought maybe about100 or so spools of wire from this Ebay seller and the original owner recorded some live concerts off the air as well as some prerecorded classical music from radio stations back in the 50's. The prerecorded programs were of record sets and I could tell they were 12" 78 rpm record sets the way the sides were mixed together, and I could just barely hear the surface noise of the records so I knew they were 78s. He cataloged the spools by the date they were recorded, thr titles of the concertos, their length, the radio stations that broadcast the programs, etc. I believe they were all recorded from FM radio stations, but I put them away and haven't looked at them again in a while.

[@patrickoreilly271]

@@amberola1b if you happen to have any other ny philharmonic, or other radio broadcasts of orchestras, you should post them! i really enjoy the lo-fi sound quality. it's hard to find stuff like this online.

[@clydesight]

The machine does well with spoken voice, which is what it was designed for. The musical reproduction is - sorry to say - painful to my ears! But it IS what it is, and it has great historical value! Thanks for posting it.

[@gaetanomariapiscopo5637]

The musical reproduction is a tresure from the past, we should preserve it.

[@fromthesidelines]

As heard on CBS' Sunday afternoon schedule at 3pm(et).

[@remomazzetti8757]

It's Gustav, not Gustov.

[@SwingBandHeaven]

You have that wire recorder running as smooth as anything. I have the same model and it has some wow issues which I guess is related to the friction pads on the take up and feeder wheels. Was there anything in particular that you did to get it running so smoothly?

[@amberola1b]

One way to get the wire running smoothly is to make sure that it is wound evenly on to the supply spool and that it isn't bound up or wound loosely. I don't know if you know anything about adjusting the wire recorder so that the wire winds even onto the spools in case it isn't, but you should get a service manual so you can understand how to adjust these machines better.Also it was suggested in the owners manual that you start the wire going through the machine to the take up spool with the record playback head at its uppermost top position before threading the wire through it. And all you have to do to do this is to wind the take up spool so that the head goes to the uppermost top position and then thread the wire on to it. They refer to it as phasing the wire, meaning that when the wire is fed to the take up spool,That the wire and the record playback head are going up-and-down at the same rate from the full spool to the take up spool. In other words if the playback head is in the up position and the wire is coming off from the bottom of the spool, then the wire is out of phase the wire and the playback head have to follow each other up-and-down at the same rate otherwise it will also make the wire sound like it's slowing down if the playback head is in the lower position but the wire is being fed from the supply spool coming from the top position or visa versa it's going to create drag on the machine and it's going to sound a little bit slow when the head is coming up but normal when it's going down, the wire and the head have to follow each other in the same direction at the same rate. I know I sounded like I repeated myself once or twice but that's how I tried to go about explaining things. Also if you were to own more than one wire recorder of a different make I believe the mechanisms may work at a different speed as far as the head going up-and-down at a different rate where as with Webster Chicago wire recorders the head bobs up-and-down slowly but I have a silvertone wire recorder where the head bobs up-and-down a little faster so the wire will not feed out of the supply spool through to the take up spool at the same rate as it would on the Webster Chicago wire recorder. Also make sure the rubber idler rollers have good grip to them. Just kind of feel the edge of the idler wheels with your finger to see if they feel slick or if your finger is grabbing it and dragging against it. If it feels slick it may be a little too slippery to create enough friction against the take up or supply spool Hubs to drive the machine properly. Make sure there is no oil or grease on the idler wheels around the supply or take up spool hubs by wiping them down with some alcohol and either a rag or Q tips. And also when using a wire recorder never turn your back on it because whether it's playing or rewinding the wire could get snagged or snarling something because of either a miss adjustment or a splice in the wire etc. I have done this a few times in the past and all of a sudden it seems the wire will catch on a knotted splice or whatever, and the wire might have a chance to break.

[@AALavdas]

Τhank you, but it's a pity you did not connect the player to make a proper recording transfer. Now we are just listening to its tiny speaker. You will need an A/D converter to get the signal from the output of the player to your computer.

[@amberola1b]

Thanks for the comment. I only have a laptop and don`t know how to put a direct input to it to record the signal into my laptop. One of these days I should find out how to do this because some years ago I bought about this and about 20 or 30 CANISTERS of spools of wire (each canister holds 6 spools) from an ebay seller and they all hold either live recordings like this, or classical music played over the air on radio stations at the time from those bulky 78 rpm record sets. I believe they are from the late 40`s into the 50`s