GUTHRIE GOVAN: the worrying thing and the best advice from Guthrie...

guthrie govan, musician, guitar player. music lover, aristocrats

[@dafook865]

Man can even imitate metronome

[@meme4562]

Thought the same thing

[@HatRock]

perfectly in time!

[@georgevillanueva6926]

At 200 😂

[@forelectricstring8833]

up down down down up down down down up down down down

[@newfreenayshaun6651]

@@forelectricstring8833 no, it's up down down down up down down down up down down down.🤣

[@alexandereisen3486]

His metronome sounds more metronome than my actual metronome

[@selmosian]

"Music is a language, and if you dont have anyone to talk to, its not very rewarding."

[@bmoneybby]

That fckn hurt.

[@MalkuthEmperor]

Personally, i dissaguree with yhe sentiment. Whille i do think there is truth to it, in my own life ive more oftain perfered to play, practise, experiment and analise music analise alone. Frankly i find it much more fulfilling and enjoyable to compose or arrange a peace, and analise what ive made or what someone else has made through my limited understanding, than even to play a song. Which even i find a bit odd when i look at it from the side. But it is what i enjoy and thats what music is about for me. Its fulfilling, its enlightening, down light surprising and exciting many times, and as with everything it can also get boring, and the great thing about music or art of any kind for that matter is that in its essence it is subjective, and you can chose to do whatever the hell you want with it, and it will not harm anyone no matter what you do ( other than blasting the speakers to a painful level, which personally does not fulfill me, but even that had a place and time in which i can enjoy it without harming anyone) And music beeing as such, i very much dislike this elitist opinion that it has to be done in the way in which Guthrie has perscribed to us. If he wants to inspire new players, which it seems he does, than i think he should also make that next step and accept that different people want and are fulfilled by different things, and what fulfills him will not necesserally fulfill most people, and if it does it wont be the same way, and frankly thats the beauty in it for me. In a world in which so many things depend on rigidly following some set of actions in order to make a living, or to stay healthy, or to maintain relationships, i think that people should be not only allowed but also encouraged to have at least that one thing in which they can freely explore without feeling guilty about the expectations of someone who they look up to. That beeing said, there is also the part whare we ourselves have to take responcibuility about the fact that we are ultimately the one whom we ask when it comes to the question of " what i think is worth doing", and to that extent i feel that there is a huge need for realising what we can expect of ourselves, and to accept our limited abuilities as they are. Alright thats that, have a nice day

[@bmoneybby]

@@MalkuthEmperor now imagine everything is exactly like you said, but afterwards you get to play it with and for people and share in the experience.

[@selmosian]

@@bmoneybby this was literally what I thought after reading the comment.

[@fenderorgibson9233]

Don't take his quote. He didn't even know how the internet works. Music is not just a language, it can becomes a medicine for some introvert people and get your videos exposed when you're practicing ain't that bad tho. He just an old dinosaur

[@nelsanreang1527]

Guthrie doesn't use metronome, metronome uses Guthrie to keep up the timing

[@marcos_c_m]

Time ask Guthrie to play the metronome

[@mariorojas3724]

Idolatras!!!😂

[@meself349]

Metronomes suck.

[@parham8279]

That metronome thing really surprised me 😂

[@johnmatthews-sk4oe]

Been playing for 20 yrs I think it is more meditation for me not anyone else

[@davilathegreat]

Yeah, I have a lot of instruments, but none of my friends know about them.

[@SpiderBatProductions]

Man can perfectly imitate a metronome on the spot without even thinking about it. Only Guthrie is that connected with the instrument.

[@thenerdyhobbit3935]

So I will keep lock myself in my room. Only with that way Guthrie will worry about me.

[@kwanholai8996]

Lol😂

[@billhall6625]

The exchange of energy between musicians and audience is pure bliss ! It cannot be replicated in a you tube video. I seen the aristocrats in Vancouver. What a performance! I was singing there praises for weeks

[@cottleston4525]

okay. lowkey flex on summoning a metronome. im with it

[@gorovmaguas3414]

Playing live is a great experience

[@johnrobert385mm]

Very true , and true artist or musician defined by how well their presentation on their craft in a live situation . No edit , cut , merge , retake , etc .

[@daviewales]

It's the fact that without any pause he can just pull out sound effects

[@icrawford40]

With respect to the You Tubers, I agree with Guthrie within the context that music is very much on a different level, when shared in a live situation involving people in the SAME room.

[@forelectricstring8833]

Just a bedroom is enough. No audience. Musical comunication between two players.

[@mr.brenman2132]

​@@forelectricstring8833It's not the full experience.

[@spotproinvestmentchannel7339]

Music is about touching people's hearts by inputing positive values in their living where at the same time healing internal pain plus driving them in remembering things and act as motivating tool frequency.

[@chrisbarclay]

Lucky enough to have played live and with people…natural musical interaction

[@meattooth1303]

so true and this phenomenon is abundant in most aspects of life. my kids and all there friends will sit in their room and play group video games vs. hopping on their bike, meeting somewhere and going on mini-adventures. one of the best things about jamming with others is the telepathy you experience when improvising where everyone is able to make changes in key, time, etc... in sync without saying a word.

[@rustynales4597]

Yes❤

[@srogers500]

I don't think KZbin is stealing any talent from the world. KZbinrs are great with all their guitar related content and they all have great lessons. They have talent and personality to keep us entertained. There's not Eddie, Jimi, or Randy amongst them. They are entertainers making guitar related content. It's all good.

[@mr.brenman2132]

That's not a good thing.

[@tonyj8465]

Agreed

[@aml1418]

I agree bro the mixture of a group of people making a song or album is like a fingerprint, that’s what is so cool about music in my opinion.

[@bernardofernandes2226]

Govan is an outrageous musician! And he shows pieces of his wisdom in his interviews. He has a deeper understanding about music.

[@thomashightower7881]

I agree with Guthrie Govan on this personally, but I understand that some people might not feel the same way. Personally, playing music with people is what I love most. I still might enjoy picking up the guitar and playing by myself, but i dont think id have lept with it so long if i hadn't experienced what its like to play and improvise with other musicians in person

[@ron3676]

He is completely correct,,,,THINK ABOUT IT. it's about people. MUSIC TOGETHER.

[@danaolsen9603]

Thank you Guthrie - that's exactly right, IMO!

[@syfman6]

Beautiful said with a spot on metronome mimic....💚🎸

[@ryannintia3728]

I grew up in the 90's to early 2000's and that band era in my country is one of the best experience I ever had that youngsters nowadays do not have

[@sleyeminizo275]

He is always so spot on!

[@Newrayjay]

Bloody brilliant 💯🎸

[@mamonsin]

Interesting. From my own experience playing the instrument, the best times for me are when I play alone and for my own personal enjoyment. Whenever I played with bands I could never connect with them or have any fun. Alone is better for me as a hobby and not a career. He's talking about it being a career so then it makes a lot of sense to get out there and know people who can get you in places

[@meltedmarshdaddy]

Live playing! Bands need to come back!

[@Soundscapes]

The comments section is worrying! He just said "Music for me..... " Before saying everything. And he repeats again (for me). Also nowhere does he imply that what he is saying is the only way, he is only expressing his worry. I have personally met Guthrie and he is not very social. I personally don't think he is entirely an extrovert....but he has a great aura and absolutely humble. Why you all so triggered?

[@sashabagdasarow497]

I like the music itself. I don't have to communicate with other people. The connection is me and the guitar, not me guitar and people.

[@nudesoftheworld]

I agree with you, but I think his point was that instead of doing the band thing or performing live, a lot of people are now setting up cam and performing somekind of guitar peep show that showcases a very shrill bandwidth of art. But yes, initially; music is first and foremost for the performer.

[@sashabagdasarow497]

​@@nudesoftheworld I guess that is his point. Real communication with people is really fulfilling, I'll give him that, but we have what we have. I'm not a social person, so for me it's either no friend or nothing, or at least receive some comments that my video is cool or something like that. Second is definitely the better alternative.

[@insaneguitarboyw]

happiness only meaningful when shared

[@sashabagdasarow497]

@@insaneguitarboyw no

[@tylerm8145]

​@@insaneguitarboywpolitely disagree. If you can't be happy by yourself, then dang that's brutal.

[@mudimstrmind]

Music has a way of making you feel like you’re in a room with a thousand people that understand you when you don’t even understand yourself

[@Johnnysmithy24]

That’s an amazing perspective

[@mudimstrmind]

@@Johnnysmithy24 it’s why I started making music lol If I can just make one less person feel alone all the pain hurts a little less

[@Johnnysmithy24]

@@mudimstrmind It’s why I WANT to make music :)

[@mudimstrmind]

@@Johnnysmithy24 do it I believe in you It might be a while before you’re art reaches the right audience so don’t get discouraged if people around you can’t see it’s beauty

[@Johnnysmithy24]

@@mudimstrmind Thank you , I will🙏😊

[@davesmythe6733]

Absolutely perfect response

[@orbitaljellyfish808]

Dude spontaneously made a click track to emphasize his point about connection vs isolation via language. Literally a communications professor.

[@opeth1623]

Key words, music to me. Music can be whatever you want it to be. It’s that’s rewarding to them that’s fine let’s see where it takes the art form

[@mr.brenman2132]

no where.

[@DiogenesNephew]

Hey man, I keep my room VERY bright to fight the depression!

[@user-ov5nd1fb7s]

It's not positive or negative. It is just the way it is. For most people, music is just a hobby. So it doesn't really matter if they don't do it outside their bedroom. Not everybody could/should be a professional musician.

[@droneready8278]

... Music is a collective creative experience in my world💪

[@gruesomecthulhu9598]

“To me”. Exactly. If you want to be a KZbin guitarist and shred in your bedroom you absolutely can. Music is intensely personal to most musicians. So it’s “meaning” is subjective to the individual. The world is changing. Playing with other people is fun, but wanting to be a KZbin player is not a “problem”.

[@richy749]

I absolutely agree with this. Such a detriment to our community and the future of guitar. We have a pretty severe problem with the way the internet is headed.

[@UkMagicz]

Got lucky enough to meet Guthrie, said to him after the gig “so you left the fretless at home tonight” he replied with a resounding no lol and said what tracks he usually plays it on really a great guy and amazing with hand zimmer

[@mertgor]

Happy Playing ! 😇❤😎

[@Lou_Mavs]

Making a living doing music is not a realistic goal for me at this moment in my life. I have a family, a full time job, and a mortgage, and to do any kind of touring is not conducive for long term success or financial growth, especially with venues taking 30% of merch sales. It’s basically a “pay to play” gig at this point. That being said, I’m proud to write, record, and release music on my own without the pressure of the music industry telling me “yes” or “no,” and I’m happy to play with people at occasional local gigs to keep my performance and skillset up. The moment I stop playing music is when I stop enjoying it, and at this point in my life, I’m happy to do it. I’m glad Guthrie Govan can make a living making music. He deserves it, and he earned it, and I’m inspired by his commitment to his craft. Me? I’m happy to do what I do and feel fulfilled doing it.

[@mr.brenman2132]

I think he's worried that the next Eddie Van Halen and the next Allan Holdsworth will end up never leaving their bed rooms and creating anything worthwhile.

[@ProDrummer]

JUPP! That´s absolutely CORRECT!!

[@salmonella508]

He’s absolutely right. Just because you can imitate somebody else’s shredding or a solo, it just makes you somebody who can copy somebody else. There’s a lot of emotion and soul in music and a lot of these KZbin players have no idea what it is. Unfortunately we keep pressing the like and subscribe button and they keep making money off of somebody else’s blood, sweat and tears.

[@god6196]

Love playing but even then I have no friends nor siblings that are into the same genre. And I'm an introvert so really the people I know are really the only people I'll talk too.

[@attrett]

This gentleman is not only the best guitar player on this planet but also a great bloke. He's absolutely right about what music is all about. Guthrie rules!

[@to_tire]

Music is a language and we need someone to talk to. That's a really resonant thought.

[@acmv71192]

Im in a household without music, and i am going crazy to have conversation about music again. 😢

[@user-me5fh3yu1j]

I love making mysic with other people, but I disagree that an online career is necessarily bad. There’s some really great, unique art that’s only really possible because of the internet and people’s ability to make music alone in their rooms.

[@stonethecrow80]

He's so well spoken

[@russelldelorey7348]

Well put.

[@mikesmith8187]

I couldn’t agree more with what Guthrie is saying…I’ve been saying the same thing for many years.

[@Theworkingbassplayer76]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻amen to that 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@Str1ng5]

Very well said!

[@lolipoable]

Playing music is about fun, no metter where or with whom

[@jonathanstrand2474]

Guthrie is right, the problem is, he is also very articulate verbally, he can talk just as fluently as he plays, makes him a great ambassador, a great teacher. If you want to form, or join a band, you also have to be able to speak, and while you speak, protect yourself from users and opportunists, who will steal your gear, or use you for rehearsal $ time, or as a temporary fill in, while they lie to you. My auditory learning disability plus ADHD has made me so ripe for those and other abuses, and abusers, that I have learned to be satisfied by continual improvement on the instrument .......that no one will likely ever hear, I’m unsocialized, and all those who had my back, or I once jammed with, have all passed away, so I focus on my given talent for improvisation, my band is Pandora, sax, violin (JLP) various guitar players, their lines and phrases ....Santana being my biggest touchstone, my ideal sound, but also branching back into blues. I don’t record it, I don’t share it, and it is sad, but at a certain point, the music is all I need, humans are just too problematic for those like me. With no wing man, to accompany me, I’m not sitting in with anyone, anywhere though by now I could. Music is my therapist. The troubled times we live in keep me satisfied about just avoiding the risks, I used to take without worry. Experience is my teacher, the lessons were hard, I’m happier that they are over. I have no heirs, and it’s just as well.

[@grahamtemple-sowerby1993]

Lucky you I can't find anyone to play with I have in the past but at the moment I am the person you are speaking about

[@SdMbL1]

I agree but… the teaching and learning that comes along with it has been great for guitar players.

[@dynatwenty]

The best !!!!!

[@samosamusic]

Why is it worrying? Let people pursue music the way they want to. There is no definitive answer to "What music is really about".

[@ObstructTheTide]

Guthrie is a huge inspiration to me and usually everything he says I agree with, but not this one. Everyone has their own personal music journey and what they want out of it :)

[@aquinojose94]

Amen brother, I love him but I do not agree. Music being a language some of us are better off not communicating to or with anyone, playing in my home studio and uploading to KZbin are some of my happier times.

[@CompleteProducer84]

Yes absolutely, I was literally just about to post almost the same exact sentiment. I would love to play with people, but I also love playing/practicing in my room with a backing track. I do still feel like I will meet a group of people to play with someday and I'm sure it will give me the ultimate joy, but I am still happy playing alone.

[@danielnery4054]

you didn't get his point. He even imitated a metronome to make it very clear that those people are not seeking "music" and sounding good, but rather being impressive for the internet and getting likes.

[@mrrattlehead]

Like from my pen. I guess Guthrie is just old fashioned with this perspective. Why aspiring musician would not use one of the most powerful tools(internet and platforms like youtube) to potentially get the audience for his/hers music in modern world? Going around dusty bars and playing for small crowds does not really have any better earning potential or what not either. Quite the contrary I believe. His perspective does not really make any sense. I personally want to "sing"(metaphor), but don't care, never have, and most likely never will care that much about people. I've been mistreated by them my whole life, don't really want anything to do with most of them. If what I sing resonates with someone so be it: it is good, nice and very much appreciated, but it is not the reason for my want and need to "sing", and I don't really believe I should stay quiet because of my perspective on humanity on general either.

[@mrrattlehead]

There are different perspectives on this matter. To me for example music has always been the safe haven to go to and shut off the toxic outside world and people. To a person like me for example, the merit and influence of people in the phenomenal experience of enjoying music and presenting it is minimal to non-existent. Am I somehow less allowed, capable, able or what ever to express or enjoy music because of this difference in phenomenal experience? I think not. Claim that music is all about people is simply bs. It's universal language of vibrations and frequencies, and when performed by conscious entity, it has innate healing and destructive properties as well, so it's not all about just "being heard" to the crowd. It also does stuff to the individual, and claiming otherwise is just ignorance and belittling other peoples experiences.@@JonnyShemzBlacklighter

[@nogoogleplus]

Truth✨

[@petruccifanboi]

Dude !! Him mimicking a metronome gets me everytime 🤣🤣🤣 Guthrie you’re a genius 😂

[@teamrickq7733]

what he said is so TRUE!

[@thetrooper2152]

Legendary guitar player

[@fabiosky4368]

GG is totally true.Many youngs love fashion and they want having millions of likes. being a pro musician means goin in clubs and theatres, facing an amount of emotional and technical problems ,makin terrific strenghts, creating a good sound and nice tone, facing failure shows,and also earning only few bucks. youngs dont like that. you like that only if you love playin music. it is a job not for everyone! ciao from Italy

[@Ibaneddie76]

Can't say it any better than that!

[@RagggedTrouseredPhilanthropist]

I love Guthrie, but this is an opinion. If you're enjoying playing in your house on your own, rock on. Do what makes you happy, not what Guthrie thinks should make you happy.

[@wifibug3596]

It’s crazy how little people know him. Guthrie deserves better

[@Shawnp23]

I kind of agree, at the time it was way different then it is now but so many of our most influential musicians of today were bedroom rockstars. Mateus, Manuel, our boy samurai guitarist and music is win. They all play in bands so I agree with Guthrie on that. But the internet is the future and I genuinely believes millions have picked up the guitar thanks to these bedroom shredders. I know I have atleast

[@LDN76]

Thats just a choice everybody has to make for themselves, but i agree. I also agree with the darkroom metronoom player. If he is happy, why not?

[@Zudomon120]

The metronome imitation was awesome

[@kojam1]

😱! This is EXACTLY what I been saying for the last few years! 😱

[@henrymulberry]

Guthrie's opinion is respectable but I believe that everyone enjoys music and shares it with the world in their own way. Thanks to the Internet and KZbin I know about Guthrie and his music... I think the same thing happened to many people.

[@muhammdkhairulamarbinmohdz530]

yeah❤

[@francescocapuani]

Thank God this guy exists

[@Dontnametheplug323]

I like how he explains things, easy to understand, I'm a dummy so guthrie really making it easy on me

[@claytonvolner5950]

He’s got a great point.

[@michaellaviola6540]

That's because the dream is to make a living with music. Which now just won't happen without social media. Maybe if people started buying records again, we'll get music careers back

[@forelectricstring8833]

It has nothing to do with careers but interacting with other musicians, not with a backing track. Just you and another player in your bedroom it's enough. No metronome. No backing track. That's what he is talking about.

[@michaellaviola6540]

@@forelectricstring8833 just you and another player in your bedroom isn't going to get you out of flipping burgers at McDonalds lol

[@alexjackson8841]

@@michaellaviola6540 no but we’re talking on a more spiritual level as a creative and an artist for the love of music, not just “what can make me the most money”. Without sounding like a hippy, there is a lot of magic with playing live with a group of people, it’s something that people don’t get unless they’ve done

[@michaellaviola6540]

@@alexjackson8841 yeah I don't doubt it's all well and good, but it's very easy to say: "oh people should play more with people and just worry about playing music" when you're an accomplished player who started his career back when the industry does good. It's not even about making the most money, it's about making ANY money to sustain yourself or your family doing what you love the most, which is sadly achievable by maybe 1% of players. And in the modern day, pretty much only achievable if you're an "internet guitarist" because the only thing that'll really make you some kind of reliable income is guitar lessons and you need to be good enough for people to want to have lessons from you,

[@Toisen]

@@alexjackson8841 who are "we"? I challenge you to try to eat "spiritual food" instead of normal one for a couple of days, see what happens. Musicians make YT videos for income and fun, and the best thing is you don't depend on an ever drunk drummer, vocalist who forgot to write lyrics etc. It's always 1 or 2 guys who are the core of a band anyway, so what's the problem if modern musicians don't want to carry a dead weight?

[@ButternoteBackingTracks]

For a second there, I genuinely thought he stepped on a metronome pedal!! 😂

[@frankieroberts3444]

He is the legend

[@frankswildyear]

I haven’t played with another person since 2013… I play everyday by myself

[@desirogers8091]

When I do get to hook up they’re mostly hobbyist which is ok I guess, even if they’re good it’s like I’m there for their ego and I ain’t getting paid for it. Got a couple tricks in Eugene’s bag myself and pulled them out old head cuttin style shame on me. Don’t get me wrong there’s been a few that I was happy to ride on the journey and truly jam.

[@aplusatlanta1]

The wisdom that he is talking about doesn’t just apply to music, but to aspects of human interaction on all levels.

[@ROOM-zq7du]

100% agreed!!! ✊🏽💥

[@jobaps2248]

That metronome 😊

[@edgaralman1985]

Dude! You're awesome.

[@deangelobayley7079]

he's a genius. and that metronome part was perfect

[@bassinblue]

As a 27 year old musician, THIS was the biggest issue I faced. I tried forming a band and saw how many musicians are disillusioned, lazy and just didn't want to apply the work. They think their favourite bands created masterpieces overnight. It's what I had to give up on the idea of being in a band and just learn how to Produce and Mix. Is Rock N Roll dead? Yes, and WE killed it.

[@wormingnightfall6599]

Amen

[@sullyb23511]

😢

[@sagetmaster4]

I'm pretty sure there have been unmotivated and uninspired band members since the 60s

[@antidote7]

100 percent correct!

[@lejames5987]

"tick! tock tock tock" - Guthrie Govan, 2023

[@rugged_music]

He's a worrier

[@samchoate1719]

Man he is so right

[@mesterlian2067]

Right 👍

[@kmcewenguitar]

The perfect metronome! So good 😂😂😂

[@Ludwig_Cox]

Guthrie Govan will always be a guitar certified G

[@BloomBat]

♥♥♥

[@NytronX]

Hard disagree. There's a time and a place for both. TheDooo for example fits the MO of what he's describing, yet he's amazing and has convinced orders of magnitude more people to take up guitar than Guthrie has, and in general has a far larger audience. He's fantastic on guitars and keyboard.

[@mr.brenman2132]

But there isn't really both. Thank God the Beatles and the Rolling Stones left their room's and created real art for the world to experience. He wants more Guthrie Govans who go out and perform. He doesn't want tik tok noodlers.

[@ale14zoppi]

He is so into music as a language that he can talk metronome with his guitar

[@sebalo689]

A sweet kind of worrying For a sec I thought he was gonna act like "oh the old times were better"

[@thatoneguy444]

The only reason why I do it is because it's difficult to find other players of a similar music taste and playing an instrument or genres or types of personalities. So I try to post in hoping that I get more similarly minded people and hopefully start playing with other people