Nice Video. Just a small thing that you got wrong. For Nimble Trapfinder you need to have at least 4 Creatures in play to have a full party. Since One creature can only be counted as Rogue, Wizard, Warrior or Cleric and not as all four of them.
@GuysThatMagic2 ай бұрын
That’s correct! Miss speak there. We will definitely have a full party regardless because of the everything counters 😅
@christophknorr46352 ай бұрын
@@GuysThatMagic That's definitely true. I still think it's a great addition.
@saltyalters2 ай бұрын
Help me understand this a bit more. If a creature is EVERY creature type why can't it not count as all at once for that condition if that creature is all types?
@kylemeyer21392 ай бұрын
Under the rule for party each creature can only fulfill one of the roles@@saltyalters
@christophknorr46352 ай бұрын
@@saltyalters The party Mechanic needs you to pick one creature for each of the four creature types. However once you picked a creature as Rogue you can't pick the same creature to represent a Warrior, Wizard or Cleric. That means you need four Creatures to represent the four members of a Party. I think it was designed that way, to avoid that creatures with Changeling can be used as a whole Party.
@buruju992 ай бұрын
omg the guy on the left is murdering this video
@JackAmari832 ай бұрын
This was the upgrade I was most looking forward to. Thank you for the great insights. Can't wait for the 300 one! ❤
@RsDrPowers2 ай бұрын
6:21 an everything counter will not mean you have a full party with 1 creature. Should be the same ruling for shapeshifters and Burakos. They can only count as one thing at a time whenever it is checking, but they would benefit from lord type any number of times.
@GuysThatMagic2 ай бұрын
This is correct! Was a little bit of a blunder on our part. You’ll have the full party eventually with the everything counters on other creatures.
@iNtoxic_oNe2 ай бұрын
I feel like Timber Protector should be an auto include
@joshuahowell47852 ай бұрын
One small point of caution with Feline Sovereign: if Omo has an everything counter herself, she cannot then target the Sovereign to give it a counter. It could also mess with other targeted abilities. It's still probably worth running, but it's something to be aware of. Edit to add: And if you want to hand out everything counters to opponents' creatures, make sure you're careful about including certain slivers (the old ones were symmetrical).
@lovesickpoet992 ай бұрын
X spells with tron triggering and the locuses is nuts
@kaisangng2 ай бұрын
can't wait for the $300 upgrade!!!!
@coolepiczecrone14522 ай бұрын
Just got back into magic after 7+years and this is what I ended up going with played it once so far and I loved how the decks have changed
@DHunt882 ай бұрын
I turned this deck into a Tribal anthem crazy deck. I had quite a few of the same cards you guys put in. This deck is going to be pretty sick.
@SwagMaster82417 күн бұрын
How has it been playing? I just got this deck today
@DHunt8817 күн бұрын
@SwagMaster824 I unfortunately have not played it yet but I have goldfished it and its looking like it's going to run very well.
@MareczqZglos2 ай бұрын
Copy Land is like one of the better cards in this deck. This is RAMP - and a lot of time SUPER ramp (for example You can copy any of the TRON lands, or Locus etc.).
@CaptVooDooGaming2 ай бұрын
This was probably the single deck I was super excited for when I saw the decklist. I cut some lands and creatures to add some of the cards you guys added along with some cards that cared about how many lands I have. I’m trying to have multiple lands enter per turn in my build
@RvBnerd6182 ай бұрын
Been a while since I've watched these, but I love the facecam being in this video. Looking forward to watching some of the past videos after seeing this one to catch up.
@GuysThatMagic2 ай бұрын
Trying new things for 2024!
@RvBnerd6182 ай бұрын
@@GuysThatMagic Yeah, this deck might be something I would totally go out of my way to buy, and funnily enough I have some of the cards in this upgrade like Spawning Kraken. But the main reason for me to actually grab this precon is the fact you can seriously do so much with it and take it into different directions, and that's just with the face commander alone. Tricky Terrain might be in the top 5 of best precon of 2024 and I can see why this deck is so good out of the box before upgrades. It can be a budget friendly build thanks to the everything counter mechanic or you can seriously go nuts and play busted cards, really makes me curious to see the $300 upgrade version for the reasons I've mentioned. And I don't usually watch those unless I'm actually interested to seeing how far you can go with the build. And to make a guess while I have this in mind, would the Ozolith be making an appearance in the $300 upgrade?
@GuysThatMagic2 ай бұрын
This is easily one of the best precons they have done in a long time, in my opinion. The design is just so different you can take it in any kind of direction you want to go. It's fun for sure. - David As far as the Ozolith, you'll have to wait and see!
@TheBigPenguu2 ай бұрын
I think a lot of the card choices for these precons were an homage to the era of magic they're meant to make you think of. Especially the Boomer Jund choices.
@kissenger8454Ай бұрын
I feel like copy land is phenomenal with cloud post and you have a lot of ways to fetch lands
@doctordistracto83902 ай бұрын
I think party has to have four creatures and can't be met by just one with four types, it was one of the weaknesses holding party back when it came out. They may have changed it though sorry if I'm wrong.
@yamino6162 ай бұрын
I think you‘re right. „A player controls a full party if that player fills all "party roles" with four different creatures of the appropriate types.[4] Each creature in a player's party only fills one role, so, for example, a creature with Changeling will only count as one creature in the party, not four.“
@Snadon732 ай бұрын
So, once a creature has the Everything token, it gets all the lords on the field's benefits, right?
@GuysThatMagic2 ай бұрын
That is correct!
@BussyConnoisseur2 ай бұрын
LESSGOO!! THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!
@LuigiJr.16 күн бұрын
My problem with feline sovereign is your creatures will also be dogs. So you have protection from yourself. Kinda defeats the purpose of having it included.
@GuysThatMagic16 күн бұрын
It really doesn't make too much of an impact as you would think!
@anonymouspanda1012 ай бұрын
Been looking forward to this precon upgrade video
@GuysThatMagic2 ай бұрын
Enjoy!
@finwilliams224110 күн бұрын
For a creature with an everything counter on it, can it be multiple different creature types all at once? For example, with your additional cards listed at the start. Can one creature with an everything token be considered a cat, a knight, and an illusion and benefit from all those cards in play or can it only be a cat or a knight or an illusion and only benefit from one card?
@iamacharliest2 ай бұрын
One of the lands i've added is Swarmyard for a bit of extra protection on Omo. Also means if she gets destroyed she'll come back with another etb trigger and she can be used as a good blocker with swarmyard untapped. It'll put people off wanting to swing into you if you're just regenerating her for more triggers. I also added Saryth the vipers fang for added protection but also her ability to be able to untap a target land for late game so you can get double cloudposts etc which will be great for those X finshers.
@v4speed2 ай бұрын
swarmyard is a good add yeah! though i dont think you will get extra triggers when using it because regenerate means it doesn't leave the battlefield. Thinking of saryth for mine too
@iamacharliest2 ай бұрын
@@v4speed Ah yes, you're completely right. That's unfortunate but will still save any of your creatures which is nice.
@v4speed2 ай бұрын
One card I've ordered that I think will be a good in this deck is alpha status - creature gets +2/+2 for each other creature in play that shares a creature type with it
@iamacharliest2 ай бұрын
@@v4speed I'm not sure how good that is, it depends if you're running a go-wide strategy or your opponents have lots of creatures. I'm still unsure of what to do with the deck really, I think it needs some more big X spells to round off the game. Finale of devastation is a pretty obvious one, searching for hydra broodmaster or avenger of zendikar to close out the game.
@Troy_34Ай бұрын
Great build but copy land is a must keep. I would leave chromatic lantern for a fail safe, because if Omo is out of commission, then the everything counters are dead.
@Crawel0772 ай бұрын
Would recommend leaving copy land for another way to get out that 20/20 lego creature without having to do the counters
@UltimatePokemonFan752 ай бұрын
It doesn't work with Dark Depths.
@Crawel0772 ай бұрын
@@UltimatePokemonFan75 can you explain why? Or is it the etb as copy text?
@UltimatePokemonFan752 ай бұрын
@Crawel077 Yes, so when it resolves and enters the battlefield it is basically the same as playing the land itself. "Entering as" means it acts as if you played the card itself. If it entered then copied it would trigger Dark Depths.
@Rolirolll2 ай бұрын
@@UltimatePokemonFan75 but copy Land has the exact same Text as vesuva, which is the original combo piece?
@UltimatePokemonFan752 ай бұрын
@@Rolirolll Vesuva doesn't work with it. Thespian's Stage does.
@MechAleXtreme2 ай бұрын
I feel like Case of the Locked Hothouse is better than Oracle of Mul Daya, since once its solved you can get lands, creatures and enchantments from the top of your deck
@Nurfarious2 ай бұрын
Hello there!
@LouLouTooPaToow2 ай бұрын
general kenobi!
@redtotor28902 ай бұрын
I really feel like Maskwood nexus should be included as it grant all creatures every type of creature
@ryanmchenry10652 ай бұрын
Roaming throne is going into mine
@caynay2 ай бұрын
Cute cat :)
@andrewkelley60392 ай бұрын
when she dies, the counters stay but they lose the abilities right?
@GuysThatMagic2 ай бұрын
Correct
@OhMyGolgota2 ай бұрын
You can’t have one creature for a full party, you will need 4 creatures with each role
@chrome15962 ай бұрын
Everythign counters count as fate counters, Not sure why you got rid of oblivion stone thats a very good asymetrical board wipe
@GuysThatMagic2 ай бұрын
Everything counters only change creatures and lands to every type when Omo is on the battlefield. Everything counters are not fate counters.
@diskuslars75272 ай бұрын
What do you think which Powerlevel this Deck is at? Cant really decide where to put it
@glenalexander4640Ай бұрын
I add muteivault
@CarlosOleaSixtos2 ай бұрын
Let’s go
@replacement6386Ай бұрын
Someone helo me, are everything counters are fate counters?
@GuysThatMagicАй бұрын
They are not the same
@sneaky_instinct2 ай бұрын
So question , if omo leaves the battle field , do the everything counters stay with the creature and land ?
@GuysThatMagic2 ай бұрын
The everything counters stay with everything they were attached to, however Omo grants the ability to the counters. So without Omo the counters don’t act like anything
@RayneOfSalt2 ай бұрын
Surprised you didn't include Collective Restraint as protection. 1 everything counter on a land means a player would have to pay 6 per creature they want to swing at you.
@LouLouTooPaToow2 ай бұрын
pay 5*
@RayneOfSalt2 ай бұрын
@@LouLouTooPaToow wastes are a basic land type, champ. 6.
@kylegibbons88282 ай бұрын
Really, you have 12k subs and you pay wall content....
@GuysThatMagic2 ай бұрын
We have always posted a $100 and $300 upgrade to each precon deck on the channel. Running the backup is just extra for patreon