Being a Tales fan is suffering. And rest in peace to Mutsumi Inomata, who passed away last month. She designed a massive chunk of the series' characters. :(
@ItsATMDrums8 ай бұрын
Indeed. Time to switch over to the Trails games, they won't disappoint you or leave you hanging
@SeveraLF8 ай бұрын
@@ItsATMDrumseverything after crossbell is fanservice garbage
@DigitalStarry8 ай бұрын
@@ItsATMDrumsexcept it has a completely different battle system and requires you to play like 12 different games to catch up
@lpfan44918 ай бұрын
@@DigitalStarry That description reminds me of the Xeno series.
@EPS50008 ай бұрын
Try being a Dragon Quest fan in the west, that's real suffering. We still don't have 10 officially localized.
@Timbeon8 ай бұрын
Mutsumi Inomata's character designs for the titles she designed for are so iconic and colorful and fun and her art is so gorgeous, it's heartbreaking to see Bamco letting her legacy rot like this.
@MagillanicaLouM8 ай бұрын
It's horrible timing for sure. Can only hope they're close to making them more available like they tell us they would in interviews, but the communication isn't the best. I would've had an announcement made prior at least.
@mexicantails751Ай бұрын
They're basically treating her passing like a goldfish died.
@AuronScott22 сағат бұрын
And this is why I support Fan translations and hacks, the companies don't give a damn
@HybridAngelZero8 ай бұрын
I distinctly remember Harada, director of the Tekken series, making a tweet about being fed up with Bamco having, apparently, a revolving door of executives who's only concerns were maximizing profits and advancing their careers.
@canariawing8 ай бұрын
which is ironic considering how much bamco clearly hates money given how they treat their most successful IPs lol
@memesandhoi29248 ай бұрын
@@canariawingAlso how they treat their older IPs too.
@natchu968 ай бұрын
@@canariawing Revolving doors of executives tend to end up paradoxically acting like they hate money, for some reason...
@islandboy93818 ай бұрын
@@canariawing They (revolving executives) aren't looking for multiple IPs with a decent loyal fanbase, they're looking for that 1 or 2 huge cash cows that can print them infinite money all the time on a wide scale from ''whales'' (their real terminology they actually teach to eachother on official courses), which they tried again now with a Genshin Impact clone but it bombed hard. Still doesn't stop them to chase this, it just makes them drop even less attention on other IPs.
@OmegaKatanaXIII7 ай бұрын
@@islandboy9381speaking of which they used to making gundam games which doesn’t haven’t international released to not making anymore gundam games besides gundam vs series.
@theshadowdirector8 ай бұрын
It's baffling to think there wasn't a single original title for the Switch, the most popular platform uh Japan, this generation. Remember how many titles they put out in the DS/PSP era? Yes we didn't get most of them but still. What happened to those studios ? Probably moves to those now dead mobile games... Whoppeeee....
@theshadowman88018 ай бұрын
They probably did.
@theLikou18 ай бұрын
Bandai Namco tried two times to make an big smartphone Tales games. That's why they ignored the Switch since they were thinking at getting way more money with gacha. Good thing they failed.
@winghong38 ай бұрын
@@theLikou1 A real shame that they wasted so much resources on those gacha games. I honestly thought some of those character designs would had been very good for protagonists in a legit main line console Tales game entry. Also needed to get a real writer to complement that, of course
@theshadowman88018 ай бұрын
They should have made a radiant mythology 4 for america and Japan.
@BloodRedFox20088 ай бұрын
They now have a studio for dedicated Nintendo development, I’d like to hope said studio could make Nintendo exclusive Tales games one day.
@jac_2388 ай бұрын
Where’s my Abyss re-release Bamco
@kotlolish8 ай бұрын
3DS
@herbertortiz91598 ай бұрын
A rerelease would be amazing!
@Lock2002ful8 ай бұрын
3DS and it’s amazing.
@jac_2388 ай бұрын
@@Lock2002ful I have both the 3DS and and PS2 versions. But obviously both are no longer supported and it’s a fan favorite game, that’s in desperate need of a current gen port
@pedrobeckup4568 ай бұрын
I played on 3ds, now I want to play it again in HD on the Switch.
@chipsdonut18 ай бұрын
Graces and Xillia need to be ported to PC and current gen consoles
@Benjamillion8 ай бұрын
So do Tales of Phantasia and Tales of Destiny and Eternia, but no one cares about thooooose....
@dragontears8 ай бұрын
@@BenjamillionI care. I care so much.
@dragontears8 ай бұрын
I want Tales of Xillia 2 port. One of my absolute faves.
@tamalemuncher7898 ай бұрын
@@BenjamillionI mean... I wouldn't mind trying it
@Dhalin8 ай бұрын
Skip the consoles. Because what's happening with PS3 now, will happen with the PS4 within a couple years, and the PS5 a couple years after that. Only the PC remains without generations. Outside of Pre-Win7 days, every game made will continue to run on PC, and even some games, there are work-arounds to get them to run on modern systems.
@jacktwelve17108 ай бұрын
It hurts my soul to see legacy of tales slowly being erased because Namco hasn’t rereleased anything on steam/ modern consoles outside of a verspira and symphonia or the last few mainline games
@Gabe_298 ай бұрын
I'm getting really disheartened with the Tales series and Namco. They practice some lame business decisions. Symphonia's recent release is plain SAD...
@MimouFirst8 ай бұрын
Yes, that release was my game disappointment of the year, sjees.
@Gabe_298 ай бұрын
@@MimouFirst yeah. I feel the same. I bought it on Switch after those patches came out, but it still feels a mediocre port...
@Alorso_8 ай бұрын
Wild that the PS3 version from over a decade ago is still better, I'm glad I have a copy but seriously it's stupid how lackluster the recent port is
@Gabe_298 ай бұрын
@@Alorso_ right?! I've played both Chronicles and Steam versions and with each rerelease, the quality dips...
@AICW8 ай бұрын
The Arise DLC story was so bad and pointless too.
@micaelamouse14208 ай бұрын
Dude thank you for the call out to legendia. That soundtrack was pure gold and I loved the hell out of that game! This is a game that needs a full remaster just so it can be playable in the way it deserves to be. It'd probably be a huge money sink and terrible for them profit wise because this game isn't popular enough, but it'd be so nice to have for the OST alone. Plus poor Moses could actually hit something if it got a full overhaul. Also, I love Abyss. It's a game you have to play at least twice to truly see the MC as he is. He is the "hated" MC on your first play through. It's the second one that shows you just how much of his true growth and personality is there all along. Abyss needs more love. ❤
@Raphtor138 ай бұрын
I love the Tales series and Symphonia on the Gamecube is THE game that got me in to JRPGs. I am actually playing a fan translation of Tales of Innocence on DS right now. My favorite is either Symphonia or Berseria.
@aschenkreuzz8 ай бұрын
pls play Innocence R nstead. It's thousand times better with a lot of changes
@suzy03188 ай бұрын
Tales of Symphonia on GameCube was also my introduction to the series 🥹
@zeronos28448 ай бұрын
Innocence R is now fantranslated. you gotta need a Vita emulator or a jailbreaker vita tho
@icecreamorc8 ай бұрын
The recent Xenosaga collab for the mobile game makes more sense now. The series is joining Xenosaga as a series destined to not be available for download.
@sollato02938 ай бұрын
Can Nintendo buy both franchises ? I know it would be annoying for Tales to be nintendo exclusive for many, but I’m sure the series will be in a better state of preservation than with Bamco who’s notorious for being terrible at that (even older Tekken games are unavailable on modern hardware)
@projectmessiah8 ай бұрын
@@sollato0293 As much as I love Nintendo they arent exactly great game preservers themselves outside of their occasional remasters.
@Alorso_8 ай бұрын
@@sollato0293 Bamco did look into remastering all 3 Xeno games but determined that it would be too expensive, honestly Nintendo buying the IP would make the most sense but not sure if they would rerelease them either
@byronlyons35488 ай бұрын
@@sollato0293 Why? There's kind of no need for Saga, now that Blade is succeeding. Relatively in comparison. The only good thing would be using the characters, and that would be it. Remastering or remaking those games would be a waste.
@BloodRedFox20088 ай бұрын
@@byronlyons3548Banten Kaitos got remasters recently on Switch, and IMO I feel Nintendo should buy all the old IPs Monolith Soft worked on before they bought them in order to just help bolster dev morale because they’ll have all their creations under one roof. Xenosaga and Baten Kaitos are still with Bandai Namco and Square still has Xenogears. At the very least I want Nintendo to get the rights to Saga and Gears so the entire “Xeno series” is under one company and maybe Monolith could remake the older games and turn the whole thing into a connected universe of some kind.
@rochellepaws8 ай бұрын
It's ironic the developers spoke about changing the art style of Arise to be more "threatening" in order to appeal more to male players just as we were entering an era where cute art styles like those in Genshin are absolutely thriving.
@giganticmoon8 ай бұрын
they’re behind with the times
@realrealwarpet8 ай бұрын
Its like women are an untapped market XD
@seriouskano28 ай бұрын
It's an "Angry Kirby on Western box art" situation. Animal Crossing sold countless millions. We do like cute things. What are these companies smoking?
@Alorso_8 ай бұрын
@@seriouskano2 Reminds me of when Pokemon was first being brought over to the west, the localizers were all saying the games wouldn't sell because they were too cute looking, Nintendo didn't listen and released them anyway
@Rytom8 ай бұрын
I prefer the arise art style tho
@Mnemoniforma9.008 ай бұрын
The way Bandai Namco treats fans of this series is like having an Evil Stepmother on steroids.
@Psycheux_8 ай бұрын
honestly the way Bandai treats a lot of their series is just quite sad..
@joejunior59915 ай бұрын
Bandai treats Tales Series is just as Bad as Square Enix treat Final Fantasy
@Mnemoniforma9.005 ай бұрын
@@joejunior5991 I'd argue it's worse. At least SE releases a majority of FF games in the US nowadays.
@joejunior59915 ай бұрын
@@Mnemoniforma9.00 SE too much milking FF7 and Kingdom Hearts while treats other FF like 13, 14 Pre Reboot, 15 and 16 very badly
@Mnemoniforma9.005 ай бұрын
@@joejunior5991 That's true.
@ivanzoneBR248 ай бұрын
See guys? Jon isn't the only person that makes good videos in this channel. You can complain about other people opinions, but going to hate the person behind it is wrong.
@WhyYouWahYoo8 ай бұрын
My god people made me so mad under Jon’s video yesterday. Literally insulting his friends while praising him. Like, do they think he’ll be flattered by that?
@yoshibrothers99828 ай бұрын
I think people tend to misunderstand that the "Good Vibes" is a title, not necessarily an expectation.
@PKSparkxxDH8 ай бұрын
This makes me happy that I have them all physical. I'm still eagerly awaiting the next Tales of... game!
@CrowTRobot8 ай бұрын
I would attend a college course on the Tales series taught by Dan.
@maxwassermann31718 ай бұрын
My favourite video game series. There is so much potential in rereleases alone. And then there's Bandai Namco who just does nothing with it.
@Muriuki348 ай бұрын
Bandai Namco just tends to treat its western audience poorly too, look at what they're doing with Digimon
@projectmessiah8 ай бұрын
@@Muriuki34 Did they do something besides taking og Cybersleuth off digital stores?
@nine_tails1378 ай бұрын
@@projectmessiah In terms of recent stuff, aside from Digimon Survive on Switch and PS4, I honestly don't know?
@braklinath8 ай бұрын
@@nine_tails137 @projectmessiah that's the thing. There is nothing to know. Survive was supposed to be an appetizer for the next big title, but it went through development hell itself and was delayed several years, and we've only gotten at most 2 separate "updates" regarding the next story title. Updates is a generous word, they've only said "yeah, we're still working on it".
@nine_tails1378 ай бұрын
@@braklinath Yeah, that's pretty much the impression I got since Survive's release. That being Bandai Namco being silent about any future titles. I want Digimon games to do well in the west, which is why I bought the recent titles to show my support. But all we've gotten so far is All-Star Rumble on PS3, Next Order, Cyber Sleuth, Hackers Memory, and Survive.(at least those are the recent titles I remember?)
@Muigi018 ай бұрын
I will never understand how Bamco did not capitalize on Tales of Arise's success in 2021, only to release story DLC 3 to 4 years later to a completely different gaming environment and expecting similar success. They even pissed off Tekken fans earlier this month ontop of pissing off Tales fans with this. It really feels like Bamco's passion for games is just straight up gone. If they can't keep a constant cash flow going with something, they'll drop it like a rock.
@goncaloferreira64298 ай бұрын
"I will never understand how Bamco did not capitalize on Tales of Arise's success in 2021," THIS. Bad business practices all around.
@JustJulyo8 ай бұрын
You're not a real Tales of fan if you haven't been dissapointed while confused at the same time
@jaretco64236 ай бұрын
I'm not an Tales fan at all and even I feel sorry for the fans that do.
@Alorso_8 ай бұрын
Another reason why piracy is necessary, the good thing here is that these games and the DLC are pretty much preserved thankfully so you can still play them on modded systems
@TBCaine6 ай бұрын
(actually most of the DLC is not preserved! Only a few bits here and there are. )
@AuronScott22 сағат бұрын
At least we are finally getting a Graces f rerelease. But yeah you gotta just emulate older games to keep them alive, companies nowadays do not care about preservation, and it's a shame because Arise was such a weak game and the only game I didn't even buy, it doesn't even feel like a Tales game anymore.
@cantbehelped8 ай бұрын
My entire life as a Tales fan since 2003 has been like this. A lot of ups and a LOOOT of downs... Games still not being released on modern platforms or in the west at all? The more things change, the more they stay the same.
@Terranigma238 ай бұрын
I recommand a lot to follow "Life Bottle Production". It's a Tales of fan group who are doing more than Bandai Namco for this game series. They have done the recent Tales of Destiny (PS2 English patch translation) and Innocence R English patch translation. They also done HD texture pack for Abyss, Hearts R and Legendia. Now they are working on the Rebirth English patch translation. 😁
@Alorso_8 ай бұрын
God bless the fan community
@Terranigma238 ай бұрын
@@Alorso_ yeah. 😁
@SuiteLifeofDioBrando8 ай бұрын
Loved innocence r
@theshadowman88018 ай бұрын
Are they still working on tales of destiny 2
@wandinugraha43108 ай бұрын
i hope they translate the hearts but the DS version
@ThePokeRalls8 ай бұрын
Being a fan of any Namco series is crushing, I wish they would respect their games like they deserve. Tales has always been my favourite franchise and it feels like they gave up right when JRPGs started to become successful again. At least The Legend of Heroes has blossomed in its place and eventually filled the hole in my heart that Tales left behind
@ToastyTastyPancakes8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I recently played Trails in the sky and really liked it, are the modern games any good?
@mecuriasu8 ай бұрын
@@ToastyTastyPancakes Yes, they are all really good except one in the series being a little iffy.
@ThePokeRalls8 ай бұрын
@@ToastyTastyPancakes even better imo. I started with Trails in the Sky and loved them, went on to enjoy the Cold Steel / Crossbell games even more
@DigitalStarry8 ай бұрын
Its a shame that Tales of the Rays failed in the west because its still going strong in Japan and in my opinion its the perfect Tales game for mobile. It plays like a Tales game (you can check out combo videos on my channel or just watch gameplay on YT) and it does a fantastic job of bringing in all the characters as it has almost every notable Tales character you can think of with every single playable character from every game, most of the villains like Mithos, Van, Artorius, to even lesser known ones like Creed and Mathias to also having other mobile and spinoff games like Link, Crestoria and World Mythology available. Its super free to play friendly, just about every character is viable, tons of costumes, and just celebrated seven years of service. The biggest reason why Crestoria flopped was all the bugs and glitches plus coming out just before Genshin Impact and the bar for mobile games going up and Luminaria failed because it was a Tales game in name only and a very unprofitable monetization. But the other problem is it just can’t compete with what Rays offers in Japan and how many mobile games are basically becoming triple AAA games on your phone. They’d have to bring something out as high quality as Persona 5X to compete. In any case I suspect Bamco just doesn’t care because the games don’t bring in nearly as much money as their other properties like Elden Ring, Dragonball and Sword Art Online. And while it sucks, emulation is always available. When I got into the series through Abyss 3DS and the Vesperia remaster, I just emulated all the other games that weren’t on Steam or modern consoles besides Symphonia (had a working Wii). Yes its less than ideal but Bamco clearly doesn’t care and all the games work wonderfully on emulation.
@RuiTsuki8 ай бұрын
Though from what I've heard recently there are worries that Rays in Japan might be nearing EoS itself, as they apparently missed doing anything for several anniversaries and also did not do anything for April Fool's when they did in prior years?
@SuiteLifeofDioBrando8 ай бұрын
Mobile games are as good as releasing no games at all.
@theshadowman88018 ай бұрын
@@RuiTsuki that a shame
@fishybishiebish48958 ай бұрын
Luminaria was plenty of Tales imo, once the story got rolling. but it really did have shit monetization, was handle so poorly with draining repetitive co-op combat and terrible timing with it's release, which was just around the time they pulled the plug for Crestoria. The advertisments tried to make it sound closer to Genshin with exploration, they should focus on the character dynamics and story more😞 I think there was day 1 bugs in Crestoria that never got fixed? To a point where I think Crestoria would had ended much earlier if not for legacy characters. I also joked about writing feedback to send a signal if they are a team of 3 people locked up to work on the and needed help. Bamco just handle their games so poorly, it's sad to see
@MrWanton168 ай бұрын
@@fishybishiebish4895 Lumi had interesting ideas/concepts but some of the worst execution I have seen in awhile. Not sure what they were thinking with the raid boss system.
@kadosho028 ай бұрын
I really wish that Bandai Namco could have an archive of every series available. Especially for their rpg legacy series. No matter the platform. Being able to give their fanbase access to every title past and present would be fantastic, and worthwhile
@MagnyusG8 ай бұрын
Honestly considering how important Tales Of is to Bandai Namco, I cant believe I won the remake lottery with Baten Kaitos Remastered, a game so few people got to experience and now I have it available with me on the go. Genuinely hope theres good news for Tales Of in the future, the fans definitely deserve it.
@goncaloferreira64298 ай бұрын
is it important to them though? perhaps in Japan. i still remember when the first game come out as an answer to FF and DQ. a time when every game company needed an rpg series.
@sgw54288 ай бұрын
@@goncaloferreira6429 I guess important as in it's their own IP? I think Tales is like Namco's own RPG IP who are still getting new games.
@starlitromance8 ай бұрын
It's really not an exaggeration at all to say that I wouldn't be the person that I am today without Tales of the Abyss. I was 16 when it released and it really set a lot in motion for both my future view of the world and what I expect out of a story in order for me to enjoy it. The list of things that I wouldn't give to see it reach another generation and show them the things that I saw when I was their age is a very, very short list.
@ToastyTastyPancakes8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I found Abyss by watching one of those "hidden gems on the 3DS" videos that I watched because I noticed Game Stop had stopped carrying 3DS games.
@Random_dud318 ай бұрын
@@ToastyTastyPancakessame. I bought it randomly when I was 12. I think I wanted a Mario game or something, but they didn't have it. Luckily, fate made it so that this game was there. So my parents bought it for me since there was no other interesting game. I think I played this game 4 times. I don't think in my life I have seen a story captivating. I also think this when I got into more jrpg games
@staticshock42398 ай бұрын
What really hurts about the delisting of Tales of Hearts R is the physical copy is pretty expensive.
@thehevandragon8 ай бұрын
I got almost painfully lucky nabbing myself a cart off Picclick. Cost me a little under retail price.
@AcidumAscorbinicum8 ай бұрын
Psst, Versperia and Berseria are also on PS3. 8 games in total.
@Poki38 ай бұрын
Phantasia GBA isn't the only version we got. We also got the iOS port. I mean, I'm not surprised you forgot the iOS port existed, cause it deserves to be forgotten, but still...
@JoshDJX8 ай бұрын
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World was my favorite RPG on the Wii.
@viruschris31608 ай бұрын
It had issues especially Legacy Cast being level locked, but I really like DotNW. Emil’s aerial gameplay was great!
@mellorebel40978 ай бұрын
Finally discussing a series I love ❤️ I need Graces F, Xillia Collection and Tales of Vs.
@realrealwarpet8 ай бұрын
I want to see a sequel to tales of zesteria, with sorey and mikleo finding an old temple dedicated to the first lord of calamity and the first shepherd. In doing so, they unleash this lord of calamity back upon the world…only, she’s not really evil. Yes, this is an excuse to bring back velvet, just because the idea of her and sorey is such an interesting dynamic. Bring back the other seraphim too. Because zavead and edna could have very interesting interactions with her. Whats lailahs connection maotelus, who she knows is laphicet. God, there’s so many amazing ideas to be done!
@Kurono_Yuki8 ай бұрын
Man i thought the same thing, Zestiria and Berseria have such an amazing world that we could have a bunch more games in it, i would love a game telling Rose's story as a Shepard, and a game set in the future, like you said.
@TheWorstPartyMember8 ай бұрын
Saaame. Never make two games in the same world unless you're willing to commit to a trilogy, folks. I think I even remember an interview around Arise's announcement where they mentioned fans wanted a third entry in that world...which is only more frustrating!
@Kurono_Yuki8 ай бұрын
@@TheWorstPartyMember Really? Man, such wasted potential.
@tsukino_mahou8 ай бұрын
I like that you're about the only English speaker I've ever heard pronounce "Xillia" as intended. I've been a fan of the series since the very first game for SFC, and I used to buy the games again when they came out in English, just to try and help support the series for my friends who don't know Japanese. I always wanted us to be in the same boat when it came to new releases, but...not by Namco just not seeming to make any for anyone anymore.
@maxwassermann31718 ай бұрын
"Fun" fact: Tales of the Abyss' PS2 version wasn't even released here in Europe for whatever reason. We only got the 3DS port.
@m.m.23418 ай бұрын
Yeah that's why it was a huge deal for fans.
@shaifs50722 ай бұрын
The fandom is deflated. Never before has the fandom been this quiet. Arise hype didn’t even last a year. I heard a lot of my friends in the fandom say “I’ll check it out later” in regards to the DLC and GDI, that is how I felt too. It’s been a decline since Vesperia. Well received titles getting a lot of criticisms and the re-releases have been atrocious. How Bamco has handled this franchise is so bad it should be criminal.
@AQWBlaZer918 ай бұрын
I just went into the EU PS Store to notice that the PS3 digital releases of the Tales of games are gone only the DLC for Tales of Zestiria on PS3 are still available. That sucks because I wanted to get all of the costumes for Tales of Graces F. Least I have all of the physical releases of the Tales of games, they will always be preserved and remain with me.
@abzer0gaming8 ай бұрын
At least until the discs start rotting.
@AQWBlaZer918 ай бұрын
@@abzer0gaming I'll make sure the discs are clean and the carts are dust free.
@LoneWolf-km7rg8 ай бұрын
That won't be a problem in a single lifetime.
@mattrose62313 ай бұрын
Who’s here after Graces F Remastered trailer? HYPEEEEEEE
@DieselJT8 ай бұрын
Loving my physical library right now! So I own all of the Tales games already, Physically!
@theonlyLoneWolf_8 ай бұрын
9:35 If you thought those PSN store decisions were weird, us people in Europe only had access to Symphonia Chronicles and Graces f physically through a triple pack where those 3 games were lumped together for some reason. Like you got Symphonia, it's sequel, and Graces f too for some reason all in the same case. Tales of have being doing weird selling packages for years.
@NicolausCamp8 ай бұрын
Emulation and fan translations. 'Nuff said.
@Doomerang018 ай бұрын
I still wish there were Radiant Mythology proper translations. :(
@TwinTails1008 ай бұрын
@@Doomerang01I'm still surprised that nobody seems to want to do it. If anyone knows how to translate games, then it should be easy.
@veghesther32048 ай бұрын
I don't play PC games and fan translations for Destiny 1 PS2 Destiny 2 PS2 don't actually WORK for the actual PS2 discs/console ITSELF.
@GalaxiaSword8 ай бұрын
Still waiting on a complete translation of Hearts DS since I disliked R's official localization. (Who thought "Kor Meteor was better sounding than "Shing"?) The last time I've heard of said effort, the guy never finished it and spent more time whining about stuff on his blog. Hopefully the next group or person who works on it, will actually finish it instead of wasting everyone's time.
@thehevandragon8 ай бұрын
@GalaxiaSword The type of person who thought a sound effect name was stupid in this case. And then proceeded to throw in something that was weird but not too far off from Hearts’s naming convention.
@KBroly8 ай бұрын
Symphonia on Gamecube is still the best version of the game. Considering Namco's President said they need to focus on quality (many years too late), I'd expect them release some quick ports of these games sometime soon.
@Jrpg_guy8 ай бұрын
Yeah, my coworker said i should play it, but i was not willing to pay 40 bucks for the worst version of the game. I saw even the special ediiton for 20 often and didn't feel like grabbing it. Just don't wan't to support shit like that
@SaberToothPortilla8 ай бұрын
@@Jrpg_guyYeah, there are reasons that it isn't better, but if they weren't willing to make a definitive release (like Vesperia), it wasn't worth bothering. The Steam version is at least cheaper than the most recent remaster (and more stable from what I understand), but if you're willing to, emulating it is probably the best option (if you don't mind missing the extra content).
@tamalemuncher7898 ай бұрын
From what I hear, that seems to be the case... Though I'm not as fond of that opening to be honest.
@ryuhoshu33038 ай бұрын
I don't even like the tales series but your love for the series is really contagious and as a fan of some other niche games I understand your frustration
@jaretco64236 ай бұрын
Same here. I never cared about the series. But even I feel bad for them.
@errimusberrimus3838 ай бұрын
Man, shoutouts to Legendia. It's incredibly rough in the beginning, but it gets so good! The story feels so personal to the characters.
@evanseifert88588 ай бұрын
I love Legendia's story. Shame about the battle system though.
@DaisakoKunandra8 ай бұрын
This kind of stuff is why i make sure to keep a backup console of every console for modding, so i can have an "ultimate" console with everything i have had for the console backed up to it.
@Realdeal9588 ай бұрын
Imagine we had a Phantasia or Eternia remake in the style of Star Ocean 2nd Story R man. The potential being wasted with this series is sad. It deserves better
@shinyxshadyboi4 ай бұрын
Guys guys we getting tales of graces its ok
@rachelmcdaniel95908 ай бұрын
Your voice makes this devastating news easier to deal with😢 Thanks for that🖤
@RnA.25 ай бұрын
Yo so I'm just gonna ask bc yk, peep be curious sometimes, what's the top poster to the left with the blue haired person on it from? Whether it's the main channel or a random commenter, would like to know.
@danielramsey61415 ай бұрын
😅😅
@EvernightStudio8 ай бұрын
Felt nice to talk about games like Xillia 2, Legendia and Phantasia in a meaningful capacity. Wonder if I should make a video going in-depth on a specific game in the series…?
@ozloner87778 ай бұрын
I will never understand why Bandai Namco didn't re-release the two Tales of Symphonia games together on modern platforms.
@dragoon10908 ай бұрын
For real. They did it on PS3 and then just forgot about it.
@SarajevoKyoto8 ай бұрын
Tales of Symphonia on the GC remains one of my favorite RPGs, right up there with The Last Story and Golden Sun/Lost Age.
@SeafoamSmiles8 ай бұрын
Maybe I'm too much of an optimist, but my hope is that these delistings are just a prelude to further remasters/ports. They did state their intention to do more of them, and I think they've learned the hard lesson from Symphonia that putting out low-effort, janky ports just won't cut it. But that being said, I do share your concerns about the series and it's preservation/availability on modern platforms. Who would've ever thought that Star Ocean would end up in a better state than the Tales series? All 6 mainline Star Ocean titles are finally available again on modern PlayStation systems worldwide. It's madness.
@ChaoticHoly8 ай бұрын
*_I hated Arise._* It was a very hand-holding title without any form of illusion to freedom (like in past games). I kept playing Arise, waiting for it to open up...only for the game to suddenly _end._ I hated the opening, where it just shot the player into the the world as a slave with little lead-up, and then we were suddenly free. Not having to play out that role for more than 30-minutes reduced the impact of the story set-up dramatically. Character meet-ups just sort of happened and then they're in the party. Then you go through a prairie, or a tundra, or a mountain pass or whatnot...and then new area! Boom, just like that! The snappiness of the game made me think there'd be a ship to roam around on to open the world and discover lands off the beaten path...but nope! Suddenly you've done a circle around the world, and suddenly you're in space, and suddenly you're in a tiny area of another world...and done. #&%@!!! I have no idea what the director was thinking. I've loved Tales since the first time I booted Phantasia on my Windows 95 with ZSNES with the legendary fan patch. I own and love every game that has come stateside (yes, even Legendia - that game had an excellent story, well-written characters, and that music...). Arise was just a huge flop for me. There were multiple examples on how to craft a "giant world" game that Arise was trying to be when in development, but the director did the exact opposite. The battle system...I think was okay? I put in several dozen hours and completed the game but I can't recall what made it different from the rest. The music was a giant compilation of, "Oh hey! I heard that song in that other Tales game, but it was better then than in this game." There was no classic 4-parts to the story like other Tales games: The opening, the story, the _real_ story after the huge plot twist, and the resolution - this is also was a reason why I kept waiting for the game to "open-up". But the biggest offense was just how _unoriginal_ the story was. To the long time Tales fans, remember Destiny II/Eternia on the original Playstation? Remember the basic world set-up: Inferia, Celestia, and the Orbus Barrier between? Remember how the king believed (for a wet few moments) that Meredy was an advance agent sent to enslave the citizens of Inferia (who were undergoing a basic 16th century tech boom) with their superior technology or whatever? Arise is that. Or maybe Arise is Symphonia, with the same premise but no control switch for the mana collection but similar enslavement story. Or Destiny, where the folks of "Er'the" rebelled against those of the scientifically-advanced Aethersphere high above that happened a thousand years before the game started. Or Maybe Graces _f_ but this time the people of the "land below" are slaves instead of refugees except _surprise!_ Hell, I can make the same argument with the story of _Legendia_ in how the inhabitants of the world are refugees who forgot their origins. Long story short: _Arise did nothing new with its story._ Any fan of the series had seen the story done before, only better. Everything, save arguably the graphics, had been "done better" in previous games. Things were teased but never really delivered (like the battles with the monsters named after the Greater Spirits...they're just battles). Everything about Arise was just the company shouting from the rooftops, *"Remember how awesome we used to be?! WE SUCK NOW!!"*
@goncaloferreira64298 ай бұрын
You seem to know what you are talking about. On your last paragraph: perfect encapsulating of the situation They went hard on the graphics and the modernization of the series( after years of visual behind the times) and unfortunately it worked out as media focused on promoting the game that way and people mostly bought it because of that. Meanwhile those reviews seemed oblivious to the fact that the series had 30 years of history under its belt. And overall Arise was treated more like aan action game than an RPG. How did it win RpG of the year? You think tales have good stories? perhaps but improving the storytelling has been my desire for the series since the beginning. Arise did nothing in that regard. Overall, rpgs in general, not just Tales, often forget to improve upon what worked in the past.
@alexsudati8 ай бұрын
Cries in Tales of Eternia (Tales of Destiny II)
@Alxprit8 ай бұрын
Thank you for shouting out Tales of Phantasia. We deserve a better version of that game.
@veghesther32048 ай бұрын
Especially since the only official English dub we got was the GBA version which kind of was pure CRAP and the translation of it was really bad like changing Ragnarok to Kangaroo due to spell checking and not changing the battle back to Ragnarok at all.
@drewwinters51658 ай бұрын
I'm really glad I just recently got into the Kiseki series of games and that franchise is thriving with more games to come, I feel really bad with all the Tales of fans and Namco in general getting shafted with everything that is happening. Hope good fortunate comes your way brothers.
@bananabike2798 ай бұрын
I had no idea the Tales franchise was still so big in Japan, Tales of Festival looks like so much fun!!
@SilverSterling58 ай бұрын
I'm still waitin' on Tales of Destiny 2 and Rebirth to get some kind of localization... let alone any kind of re-release combo pack of any of the ones that didn't get one.
@lindblumpickles34078 ай бұрын
Right? I thought they said they would release more at one point, yet all we've gotten is a shittier rerelease of Symphonia than the one we already got 🥲🥲
@gfkgrgrkm8 ай бұрын
One can only hope that Bamco will do something with Tales next year
@SGJetPro8 ай бұрын
My guy with the best take, tales of the abyss is peak
@AuronScott22 сағат бұрын
Another reason that digital storefronts are eventually a problem for getting games, they can remove and delist whenever they choose. That and you lose access once the console no longer is supported. Physical will last you longer unless you choose to pirate since they don't have an interest in releasing older games.
@RuiTsuki8 ай бұрын
Another sad thing is that the people directly involved with Tales definitely know of the western fans. There was a popularity poll a few years back that asked for the most beloved games and separated between answers from Japan and overseas and when they saw the massive difference between the two when it came to Destiny (which is btw stuck on the PS1 in the West), the hosts remarked how they would love to show people why Destiny is so beloved in Japan. They also had a character popularity poll and Lloyd made it pretty far in it. The hosts even commented on how a big chunk of the votes for him were from the west. But all that doesn't do much when the higher-ups at Bamco just say No.
@godsend11128 ай бұрын
I got my mom into the tales series back in the gamecube ps2 era, she's been hooked ever since. She beat tales of the abyss about 15 times or more alone.
@dragongamerrylucius8 ай бұрын
The Tales of series has always been very influential to me. It makes me want to create my own story and characters. Abyss/Vesperia/Hearts R/Xillia is my favorite type of battle system. Eternia was my very first Tales games, before Symphonia existed.
@thunderbro78 ай бұрын
One good thing is that Innocence R at least has a full fan translation on the Vita now, though it's unfortunate that legal means to buy it still aren't possible in English.
@thehevandragon8 ай бұрын
Closest thing would be to buy a copy then burn the rom on a pc and THEN apply the patch.
@Numberplusletters8 ай бұрын
I really hope they do a whole "Tales" collection because there's ton of games in the series I think need a modern re-release or remaster or remake idc how it happens, there's just a lot of the series I've yet to play and it's because the old ones are locked to consoles I don't have or they get delisted or they're Japan exclusive.
@sgw54288 ай бұрын
This is Namco, it won't happen.
@robertwilliamson28568 ай бұрын
I could listen to Daniel talk about Tales games for hours...
@TheAufziehvogel8 ай бұрын
This was a very interesting watch while I completely forgot about the Franchise, seriously. Tales of is in a very weird spot currently at Bandai Namco. I do not think the situation is any better in Japan besides the Tales of Festival and a few mobile games. The series kinda vanished the moment Tales of Producer Hideo Baba left the company to start his own at Square Enix, and we all know how this turned out (studio was shut down without releasing a single game). It was thanks to Baba that the series tackled the West again. The helm went over to Katsuhiro Harada of Tekken and Xenogears fame, but he made clear that he isn't interested that much in Tales of (but would love to see a new Xenogears) and he actually don't have the time to manage the franchise. After a while the helm went on to the current Tales of Brand-Manager, Yusuke Tomizawa who promised a lot of stuff like Remasters and even Remakes of unreleased games in the West (there are even more unreleased Tales of here in Europe) to fill the gap between the bigger games. None of it happened, in fact, he was the one who said countless times there will be no DLC for Arise. I don't think there currently is anyone at Bandai Namco games capable of handling the once so popular Franchise. But Bandai Namco itself might be the problem here. There focus is making big money with Tekken 8 over the next years and of course releasing cheaply made licensed Anime-Games. There isn't much room anymore at Bandai Namco for quality games like Tales of, Xenogears or even the .Hack Series.
@Layazeroda8 ай бұрын
I've never heard of this delisted thing! its baffling because not only are so many Tales games not available on modern consoles, but the limited ones that we do have are sneakily being wiped away from us. I wish we had it like the JP fanbase, I was always so curious about the fan festivals.
@dottyorb8 ай бұрын
Tales of Berseria and Vesperia were both released for the PS3 in Japan only, which I find kind of odd.
@juliepercevent188 ай бұрын
I'm sad they don't release tales title more often, :c I check every week for news about tales.
@Diemermakes8 ай бұрын
The jumpscare my brain experienced not hearing "Hello, Jon here!"
@aeroga23838 ай бұрын
I've been on the Tales subreddit for a few months now and people there talk shit about any half the franchise literally every day. I'm not surprised Bamco doesn't feel like supporting the series in the west. Also, I think it being a yearly franchise hurt it in the long run. Every game features a lot of reused assets from the previous game hurting their replayability. Such is the inevitable fate of every other yearly franchise.
@Matt-cn2nn8 ай бұрын
Tales really is one of those series where there isn't a single game that fan consensus has decided is good.
@UndeadEggmiester8 ай бұрын
Honestly I've never been a tales fan but i definitely feel sorry for the fans because for a ip thats been around for over 30 years eoth a tons of games it definitely feels like its treated with no care or respect from the devs.
@fourthknower98318 ай бұрын
not devs, publisher. There's a big difference. (could be some dev issues buuuut)
@goncaloferreira64298 ай бұрын
@@jaretco6423 most japanese companies dont know how to comunicate with us, even in the days of the internet and social media.
@jaretco64236 ай бұрын
Same. I have no interest in the Tales of series whatsoever. But I feel bad to many others that has been craving for them that hasn't been localized or re-released yet.
@petitknightcreations74318 ай бұрын
Being a Tales of fan in the West is accepting that you're the unloved child in the family. Namco brought 1 Tales of the World game. I picked it up one Boxing day sale at a Gamebuzz (which have all closed down). I looooved that game. Then found out there were 2 sequels! And then all the Narikiri dungeon games!!!! A whole world of portable Tales games just never came stateside. Then to find out that a lot of early Tales games DID come stateside, but are extremely difficult to get a hold of (Destiny, Eternia), and a toooon of games that have never come over like Rebirth, Destiny 2, Phantasia X. I absolutely LOVE the respect the translation community because they have made so many games playable and enjoyable. I haven't gotten around to beating them, but I have my eyes on Tempest, Innocence, Destiny DC. Thanks for continuing to talk about Tales games with your platform. I'll continue to try and playing all the games, like the PSP games like Tales of Brave, and such.
@MagillanicaLouM8 ай бұрын
The only hope right now is the statements of those behind the series currently saying stuff along the lines of making them more available being something they want to do, pretty much since Arise's release. Sucks that it's not something Namco wanted to prioritize for the literal decades this has been an issue for, but hopefully they follow through. And follow through well, of course.
@canariawing8 ай бұрын
it's sad to say this as someone who has loved the tales series since early childhood, but once abyss finally gets ported to PC and modern systems, i'm done with the series forever. the series has become unrecognizable to me and it just makes me depressed now
@InvaderIceStrike8 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting me know that Tales of Festival is a thing that exists. I’mma get you a t-shirt!
@asterthehedgehog68618 ай бұрын
Not to be rude, but I actually hated the way Xillia 2 ended with Ludger essentially dying because I believed until then (never played Symphonia until the PS3 release) that the main party of a Tales game would never lose a member because of death in-story. I started falling off the newer games because of Zestiria’s bare feeling story, lackluster dub audio performances and the fact Alisha is REPLACED by Rose (I.e. my most HATED Tales character after Ivar in Xillia, Milla’s “disciple”) and the story feels worse without her. Berseria, being a “prequel” to this game, didn’t help and I thought it was too dark for my taste and I haven’t even gotten HALFWAY into Arise (feels like I haven’t really touched it.) My first Tales game was actually the “underappreciated” Wii sequel with Emil, Marta and Tenebrae and I still say none have topped Vesperia in terms of narrative, character developments and interactions, skits or even music. Yuri Lowell is top tier Tales protagonist. I loved the series for the character growths, the music and how absurdly hilarious the skits were (the non-story focused ones) that I felt they lost their “sense of humor” ever since the PS4. Xillia 2, at least, had humorous cutscenes and skits inbetween the main plot that are worth a rewatch (like everyone taking turns using Teepo as a puppet or Jude’s “awkward alone time” with Milla or even the “size comparison” of Alvin and Gaius). To this day, I am still ASHAMED that I wasted money on the Collector’s Edition to a game I grew to hate. The premise of humans becoming monsters felt too much like my other big JRPG franchise I followed to no end, Kingdom Hearts. In all honesty, I don’t want games that look like they are the same world because of art style (a huge positive that each entry was stylized different), I don’t want entries that have bleak outlooks like Arise starts with, I don’t want skits like the newer style they did…I’d really like a Tales game that stuck to its humorous side alongside its narrative like DotNW or Vesperia. If they wanted a game to feel more like modern times, the reality of Xillia 2 works. Sorry for me rambling on so long.
@asterthehedgehog68618 ай бұрын
I did get to play Abyss later (the PS2 version) and I really thought Crestoria could’ve worked for a solo experience if it was not a mobile app. I had never played Hearts R because of the JP audio
@dragongamerrylucius8 ай бұрын
I honestly hated DotNW because it's an escort title and not a mothership title. It wasn't the same from the first Symphonia game. The previous hero characters' levels were capped and I hated that the map traveling was gone and you have to raise monsters.
@WhimsicalCreature4577 ай бұрын
Tbh, I’m truly hoping they remaster the older games. I got Zesteria, Berseria, Abyss, Vesperia, Arise, and recently Symphonia (I don’t care if it’s a meh port, never got to play it before). Regardless, I’m pretty green to this series, and I would LOVE to play the older Tales games. I’d pay for a remaster of Graces, Hearts, a Xillia bundle, and some of the older 2D games. Tbh tho I’m more interested in the 3D titles but the 2D titles look interesting. Heck, I’d play Tales of The World. I try to be as optimistic as I can. Tales has become my favorite JRPG series ever, and I hope these older games see new light.
@TheHandsomeGod_8 ай бұрын
I just want Tales of Rebirth. Just bring that one over here. Or Destiny II. Like…PLEASE.
@LoneWolf-km7rg8 ай бұрын
Tales of Berseria is available for PS3 via a Japanese copy.
@Yokai_Yuri3 ай бұрын
I hope the series don't die. It is one of the best games for the rpg genre, simple, fun, engaging, and with lovable characters with lots of personality. Not many RPG get the last part right.
@cid012948 ай бұрын
Here i'm just hoping for another tales of the world spin-off series. The last one we got was Reve Unitia on 3DS. Don't get me wrong, I collected all physical copy of the main series, but I also want more for the spin-off.
@sebbyterasu788 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure they were pulled because a re-release is in the horizon. Vesperia, Symphonia, Zestiria, Berseria and Arise are readily available in modern hardware. I would not fret since the PS3 install base is shrinking and re-releasing games is an efficient way of making money from something that is already there.
@jorgeg03278 ай бұрын
This is why emulation is so important. Emulators and the roms ripped from original software preserve video game history so that future generations can play these great games. Just recently finished Tales of Xillia 2 on my PC using a PS3 emulator.
@thehevandragon8 ай бұрын
Not just for preservation but for things like patches and mods. There’s almost no way stuff like Destiny DC and Innocence R will be localized. So getting to play them in English is really gratifying.
@Grimjaw-rw1sz8 ай бұрын
Meanwhile Trails series is going strong.. new Arc coming trails fan eating good 😊
@lpfan44918 ай бұрын
So, when are people doing the fantranslation + bugfix-mod for the original Wii version of Tales of Graces?
@OmegaMetroid938 ай бұрын
Isn't there already a fan-translation for that?
@lpfan44918 ай бұрын
@@OmegaMetroid93 It was cancelled to support the release of Graces F, iirc. Unless I am tripping, people were even starting to develop a size expansion-tool of some kind for the project, but it got cancelled alongside the patch, so that chain of events straight up prevented Wii romhacking from evolving as much as it could have.
@sonic260008 ай бұрын
@@OmegaMetroid93 It only ever got as far as a menu translation, but even that was taken down with the localization announcement
@aninymouse16518 ай бұрын
I hope they do a full remake of Phantasia, one day. It's still one of my favorites, but most people won't play it, since it's on old hardware.
@roastbowls8 ай бұрын
Matching the headband to the outfit will always make me laugh
@Doublee738 ай бұрын
Tales is such a hallmark of the JRPG genre. It would be such a shame for the world to lose out on them
@Chackabuu8 ай бұрын
Tales of Link is/was my favorite mobile game. The Tales Of series needs to go back to that consistent release schedule
@Raylightsen8 ай бұрын
Xenosaga yeah, that is a masterpiece of a serie. We need a remake of that.
@shortbreadhead8 ай бұрын
There are actually so many Tales games that don't get attention from them compared to others and it confuses me. I keep waiting, thinking that they'll announce a remastered definitive edition of Graces F, or a rerelease of both Xillia games with extra content. SImply because it would be easier than getting the PS3 set up every time I want to go through them again and to also give more people a chance to experience some overlooked titles. I genuinely do hope that after the success of Arise they try to bring some of these back
@shortbreadhead8 ай бұрын
Also, I really enjoy Abyss on the 3ds, one of the things I'm so glad I own physically. I never played the original release as I hadn't heard of the series at that point in my life, so it was really good to get to see it
@nakazo99298 ай бұрын
I've already downloaded every single rom and fan translation for the games that aren't available anymore ( and JP Exclusives). It's their loss if they decide to not release the Japanese exclusive titles or re-release the old ones.
@yomaru8 ай бұрын
YEAH TALES OF XILLIA 2 LOVE. YOU ARE RIGHT ITS THE BEST ONE. I love both Xillia games though I will die on them being top 5 Tales games together. So good so good.
@boohoojduaskjf128 ай бұрын
can u please continously cover this? this is prob the fastest view-count / best coverage vid of the tales of series. i feel like the fans have the power to free it from the hands of bamco. the tales of studio belongs with sega or nintendo. hell even square enix
@frostb10418 ай бұрын
I am still waiting for the Tales of Xillia 1 and 2 remastered
@simplemindedsage8 ай бұрын
Glad I've already got physical copies of every Tales game that had a western release. I'm still hoping Bamco will rerelease and translate the games that never came over.