Tales of Symphonia Will Always Be Best on GameCube

[@nightmarishcompositions4536]

Symphonia, Legendia and Abyss played a large part in shaping my childhood. Love the Tales series so much and wish they would treat it better.

[@AndresLionheart]

They have indeed lost the source code, so there will never be a 60fps version rerelease. In my opinion they should go all out and make a full on remake in Vesperia's graphic style. Of course adding some extra dungeons and story beats.

[@digitalchamploo9129]

Source on them losing the source code?

[@AndresLionheart]

@@digitalchamploo9129 there isn't an official source, but that's what is infered. It's really similar to the rereleases of other games that are officially known to have their source code lost, like Final Fantasy VIII.

[@BigBrotherGnE]

I am lucky to still have my GameCube and Tales of Symphonia was definitely the second Tales game I played (with Phantasia being the first) and loved every minute of it. Between ToS, Paper Mario, Baten Kaitos and Skies of Arcadia Legends, my JRPG itch was fairly quelled when I didn't have a PS2 at the time.

[@ichigoxrukia02]

I too have the gamecube and the game BUT it needs an old TV to be played, and I have a recent one, which means the pixels hurts my eyes so much.....

[@BigBrotherGnE]

@@ichigoxrukia02 - Aren't there any solid HDMI converters to make the play experience more palpable on current Smart TVs?

[@yukioyamoto3494]

@@ichigoxrukia02 I use a RAD2X HDMI converter cable. You have to order it from UK and the shipping is stupid expansive. BUT the cable turns the gamecube signal into a native signal which means no excesive lighting.

[@SessleIsosceles]

Nice list, just like my very list! What a great gen!

[@mikeslemonade]

These old gen action rpgs aren’t worth playing anyway. They couldn’t properly do action rpg back then.

[@otakubullfrog1665]

The great thing about older completely offline games is that you always have the option of going back to the original regardless of what the publisher decides to do in the future.

[@thechugg4372]

Completely depends, do you have a physical copy? A lot of gamecubes don't work anymore, and the discs even less. If we're talking emulation though yes.

[@wizart2100]

@@thechugg4372 i do with the gamecube

[@wizart2100]

@@thechugg4372 and they still work

[@JaredClaunch]

Symphonia was the first JRPG that I fell in love with and, even though it’s aged a bit, it warms my heart to see other people enjoying it so much

[@BijuuMike]

I completely agree and think a complete remake in vesperia's style would have made so many people happy with all voiced skits with the original cast but i think the least i was hoping they would do with the switch version is do gameplay adjustments. When playing with multiple people in this game, the camera will completely hide players which is very frustrating. I would also have loved if they added the 3D running during battle in this game if it was possible much like the newer games but the way they are handling this is sadly a wasted opportunity considering how many people love this game.

[@GalaxyJakeYT]

HUH? BIJUU MIKE IS A TALES FAN?

[@orangeskarmory]

Yeah, the camera is probably the most annoying thing about the game, as someone who mostly plays it multiplayer. Free running would be very nice, especially since it's something the AI (both enemies and party members) can do, so I think it should be able to be added pretty easily. I wish there were literally any QoL changes included in this, very disappointing.

[@johncoppinger2241]

Growing up I played this game LONG LONG into the night for an entire summer. Drinking gunpowder green tea. In my childhood bedroom, that barely was able to fit a laz-e-boy chair along with the bunkbed-with-underside-desk bed, the entertainment center holding a ~36 inch CRT television. I have such amazingly warm memories of Tales of Symphonia.

[@johncoppinger2241]

This seriously makes me want to whip out my wii and play through Symphonia GC again. Damn. I guess I should finish Vesperia first.

[@Santoryu90]

My first Tales game was Vesperia which is one of the best in my opinion, but I always wanted to play Symphonia. I found and bought a used copy of Chronicles in a retro game store and now it’s also one of my favorites. I like the sequel but understand why some people wouldn’t and I agree Tenebrae was one of the best parts of that game.

[@TwilightWolf032]

Dawn of a New World was my first Tales of title, and I loved it! Until I played Symphonia and Graces, then my love for DOANW died down and I now struggle to play it again...

[@JohnSmith-fe3di]

You like the sequel?! Nothing can disappoint you. 😮

[@gowzahr]

Playing Vesperia after playing Symphonia was disappointing. Yes, the combat was more complex and engaging, but the story left me wanting. It felt like 3-4 seasons of a show (the goal/objective is reached and a new one is introduced multiple times). Meanwhile, Symphonia has a consistent goal, rejuvenate the world, but there are multiple twists and complications that arise.

[@TwilightWolf032]

@@gowzahr Absolutely agree! Even the guy everybody keeps saying is the final boss, keep hyping up for the "final battle" and even have the usual "night before the final dungeon conversations" beforehand, was just another villain revealed after a huge chunk of story unrelated to him and then the story continues unrelated to him after his defeat. When the final dungeon reveals itself, it's not because of the player's action, it's because the REAL final boss finally acted at a very specific and arbitrary point in time. You get Undine, then Aspio is gone forever (and you can't get the female swimsuits during this playthrough anymore because of that). Vesperia's gameplay is better than Symphonia (makes sense, Vesperia is a more refined version of Symphonia), but the story feels very disjointed and arbitrary.

[@Santoryu90]

@@gowzahr To each their own, I see what you mean I suppose. I’m gonna the say story in Vesperia was amazing but I still enjoyed it and it’s characters.

[@natoriousthehopeful2786]

Tales of Symphonia is one of the games I regret missing out on for the GameCube, and I'm really glad that it is getting a remaster for the switch: I will not be making the same mistake twice

[@tcClockworth]

Love to see Daniel spreading his wings.

[@kinogunda]

He's got to fly!

[@Doublee73]

I remember one of my best friends got Tales of Symphonia when I was in middle school and he introduced it to me. The 4 player drop-in co-op was unprecedented at the time and I immediately went out to buy my own copy

[@djhowell5273]

Yea same!

[@danyvaladez36]

10:40 YES finally someone mentions how superior the Gamecube's intro theme is over the vocalized version!! There's something about that orchestrated theme that will always fill me with such powerful emotions that the theme perfectly conveys. It just SCREAMS "You're about to set out on this grand epic JRPG adventure, here's a gorgeous orchestrated theme to set the mood". It saddens me that we won't get to hear it in any of the remasters/ports ever again :(

[@comicszoneuniverse]

Just go watch the intro of Grandia for PS1.

[@moonflowerpalace3872]

You get up beat tones at the action parts, softer tones at the ancient/romance parts and even sad tones at the sad parts all perfectly timed at what's going on in the opening.

[@projectmessiah]

Nah, it sounds way too generic. Grandia for the psx is an example of that type of opening done significantly better while this just sounds like they pumped it out because they didn't want Japanese vocals or to make an English version themselves.

[@danyvaladez36]

@@projectmessiah Yeah I just heard it and while not bad, it doesn't do it for me like the Symphonia US intro for reasons explained by moonflowerpalace3872 above, but to each their own I guess! 🤷‍♀

[@nergalwrath]

Man, just hearing the first notes of the Gamecube opening is a rollercoaster, feels like I'm 12 again with my Gamecube. One of the first games I bought on my Gamecube just because of the box art. Literally never played a JRPG before, didn't know anything about Tales, just looked at the box art and went "Neat". It's also the game that taught me english better than any classes at school (native french-speaker). And it was before I went on the Internet so the numerous plot twists and turns the game takes you on... To anyone who might have never played it... Do it, get the game on any form of platform and experience this at least once. I still remember my 300+hours save files because I just kept replaying again and again until I could buy everything in the grade Shop, every playthrough trying a new build (COme on, everyone got curious about S-Genis on their 2nd playthrough!). You summed it up so well Daniel, it's always a bit frustrating to see Namco not giving Symphonia the Vesperia treatment.... Also the anime was awesome, never let anyone tell you otherwise!

[@ZaffreRevolution]

yeah honestly i was already pretty underwhelmed that symphonia was getting re-released AGAIN, even though it got a steam and ps3 port of the ps2 remaster of the gamecube original. but there being no real, additional upgrades makes it feel like a waste. this is already one of the most accessible entries in a series where nearly half its library is trapped behind a language barrier, so it was hard to get excited for this. happy for anyone who missed the original and its three re-releases, but there's no reason to buy this as a fan and that's kinda upsetting

[@datalphalion]

Glad to see Daniel take the reigns for one of these solo videos. And for one of his obvious passion games too. I’ve had a passing interest in the Tales series, and I’m hoping Bandai Namco releases a collection for modern systems.

[@robtastic9899]

I love that the voice actor of robin from teen titans voices Lloyd too. Also the plot to this game is so phenomenal too guys. I promise you will NOT regret buying this game.

[@MilesCW]

I regretted it. Was NOT a good Tales of Game compared to Abyss and Berseria.

[@PhazonOmega]

And Raven voices Presea. :) This was a fun game.

[@robtastic9899]

@@PhazonOmega oh wow I actually didn’t know that.

[@robtastic9899]

@@MilesCW the ending kinda mid but all in all it was amazing.

[@paperluigi6132]

@@PhazonOmega wrong game, but Starfire voices Viridi in Kid Icarus Uprising.

[@BoringBrandon1]

I played Tales of Symphonia for the first time in 2020. The story really holds up very well, it has really great music, if you haven’t played it please pick it up!

[@omensoffate]

Don’t support lazy work

[@Pokogirl]

I have so much passion for this game. There is so much joy and nostaligia embedded in Tales of Symphonia...thank you for making this video and bringing back those memories. Oh my gosh, the soundtrack alone makes me want to play nothing but jrpgs the rest of my life.

[@princediago4669]

This has been living in my head rent free this past month. Ugh this is one of the best tales games it needs the love it deserves

[@TheInfinityMaster1]

And the *Tales of Symphonia short anime (11 episodes)* was SO AWESOME too! :D

[@hydrogenina]

A cousin had it when I was 9 years old, and man, I liked it so much, specially when playing with him and my sister. I didn't know english at that time so I only enjoyed the gameplay and the voices. For me who only had like 2 games in the GC, in my mind, his was the peak of videogames. Years later, when I was like 14, I received the GC version as a christmas gift, oh boy, my sister and I played so much, that we ran out of blocks in the memory card. (I also remember that my cousin later gave a lot of papers, it was a guide with the sidequests, and he told me "this game is one the best I've played, it has a lot of content and it's so so good". He didn't lie). That game was so special, from the gameplay, the fact is multiplayer, the characters, the music and specially the story. I could speak all the day saying why I love it, but probably a lot of people know why. It's been always weird to me that in some reviews of the game weren't that good, saying things like "the story isn't new in videogames", at least for me was, but the worst thing of all, that the horrible sequel got better reviews for some weird reason... Even tho I still have the original, I have the PS3 version (I admit, yes, it's better in the GC), I really think I'm gonna buy it for the switch. By watching this video I was thinking "there's never enough Tales of Symohonia". Like some extra, the husband of my sister-in-law once said that Chrono Trigger was the game he played it so much and was the one that changed his life, then I told him my story with this game, and then he said "CT was my Tales of Symphonia". I really think this game it's that important and marked a generation

[@xilspirit]

I do wish this rerelease of Symphonia could've been an R-styled remake, like Tales of Innocence R and Tales of Hearts R. It would be really cool to see Symphonia with graphics, performance, battle system, voice acting, quality of life, etc. of a modern Tales game (with the ability for multiplayer preferably). Though I would understand if, since Tales of Arise released just a year ago, they'd rather work on a new game project and thus went with a port for this rerelease of Symphonia. It's still nice that this game will be able to reach more fans, new and old alike. Thanks for this technical look into the Symphonia releases. I didn't realize all the aspects that make it seem like Symphonia runs best on the Gamecube. Also enjoyed hearing your insights, quips, and personal experiences with the games.

[@Ninjafox-lz6jb]

Tales of Symphonia was my game of the GameCube generation. Sure Wind Waker was great, Sonic Adventure 2 Battle was fun but for me TOS just sucked me in & didn’t let me go until the final scene. I remember tearing up at one point in particular & who can forget the hot/cold coffee moment with Lloyd & Colette. Will be great to go back to sylvarant in 2023.

[@superdankawesomeunikorngam350]

Great video Daniel! I’ve never played a Tales of game, but now I really want to. That OST is fire 🔥

[@diabeticman2194]

10:21 the dry wahoo is perfect, absolutely love it. I'm thinking about getting the remaster when it releases as it will be the only way to play it for me, but we'll see how it goes

[@kaynewoolley9104]

If you wanna play symphonia, play it like I do. Gamecube version on dolphin running at 4k resolution on TV with gamecube controller connected via USB adapter. Framerate really does matter for the tales of battle systems.

[@jamiechura9630]

My favorite series still. Played on Game Cube and beat several it times. Even tried a no item run. Still love the challenges it brought to players. I especially loved taking on Niflheim.

[@biggrayalien4791]

The North American opening reminds me of an arrangement set specifically _for_ what you're seeing on screen, like it was orchestrated live to be in sync with the video, much like a movie. The two Japanese openings...idk, they're nice, but I feel like they just don't pack the same punch. They feel disjointed, like the bands that sang the songs didn't know what they were singing to, or the animators were told "It's gotta be 2 minutes long" but weren't given the audio. I mean clearly they were, scenes and frames transition with the beat on specific points, but the tone just feels different. The North American opening really meshes well with the title screen, too. Like the opening feels very grand and epic, while the title screen is a much softer, calmer, more intimate moment before starting the game. Idk it's a tiny gripe in the grander scheme of things. I know people love the Japanese opening, and I don't mind it, it's fine. All I know is that I actively watched the opening almost every time I started the game, hardly skipped it until like my 3rd or 4th playthrough because it was just so _good_ . I think I've sat through both Japanese versions once each, and then skipped em every time. It just doesn't give me the same feel.

[@ricardobelmont5984]

This was my first game preorder. Saw it in a Nintendo power magazine back in the day. Dang gonna miss that 10,000 gald gold dragon you could keep beating up in the GameCube.

[@EvernightStudio]

Thank you for the kind comments ❤️ And again yes, if the Remastered version is going to be your first time playing Symphonia, I say go for it!

[@guitarrhero20]

The gamecube intro is so goooood. It matches the mood of each scene

[@wii58739]

Tales of Symphonia took me some rough times... love this game

[@Grandosco]

Tales of Symphonia remains my favorite game of all time. Having been THE GAME that put the Tales series on the map in the West, you'd think Bamco would show it at least a little more love. It's quite strange, but maybe it's a weird Final Fantasy VII situation where the formatting of it is strange enough that vastly improving it without just doing it all over would just be too much work. Ah well. I still have the game on the Gamecube (which I bought I believe 3 separate times due to issues, no regrets). It's almost as weird as releasing the remastered Tales of Vesperia in Japan only for all those years. I hear Vesperia sold entire systems on its own, and it's absolutely phenomenal as a game as well, so... Bamco is just weird.

[@evanbanks3768]

Tales of Symphonia will always be one of my favorite games of all times. I have a ton of fond memories playing the gamecube version with family members as a teen, and it's what introduced me to the Tales of series. I've replayed the game one to two times after the first and it's never gets old, and there's ton of replayability with getting all the titles and seeing a variety in certain scenes you can get based on who's closest to Llyod.

[@yayazow]

Same bro ! This is my favorite game of all time 🤌

[@dhay03]

The only problem with the original Gamecube version is it had camera issues when playing multiplayer. It will always focus close up on player one instead of expanding the battlefield to focus on all of the characters. Other than that, it runs superior at 60 fps.

[@KratosAurionPlays]

Symphonia is so underrated.

[@omensoffate]

No it’s not?

[@KratosAurionPlays]

@@omensoffate Every tales game is.

[@yemmohater2796]

No they’re not?? They’re known in and out of the fandom as being pretty good, even if they’re still niche

[@KratosAurionPlays]

@@yemmohater2796 To me if the game is niche and good or better then I would consider that underrated.

[@zackarywest8096]

me and my buddy when we were 10 years old played this game all the way through together. we put in like 200 hours into this game as kids. He played Loyd and i played Genis. I will never forget on the final boss we did our first mystic art and i did Indignation judgment by complete accident, we didnt even know mystic arts were in the game. Our jaws were on the floor. Most epic ending to our childhood game.

[@ryanhodgson8676]

I saw the title of this video and assumed this was Jon. Pleasantly surprised to see you Daniel! Keep up the great content!

[@supermahmoud]

It was the 1st JRPG that I got for my Gamecube when I had the console, I love Tales of series and I knew that this game will be a forever gem on that console, even with Chronicles (that I got too), I will always keep my European French copy of the game !

[@JJmanrulez1]

i love the style of your videos Daniel! they have this chill, genuine kind of vibe to them, and your humours not too over the top. keen to see more of you

[@nebiyumeseret]

I was always curious about giving this game a shot. Knew of the series and heard how great this title is. Just always passed by it for some reason. You definitely motivated me or rather convinced me to finally give it a shot! Still use my GameCube so I am excited to finally try it!

[@OverruledDood]

Just want to bring up some things that are not being reported on about the remasters. The same site that mentioned 30fps also mention that: A. The Boat's Acceleration Physics are being fixed. If you've ever gotten to that point you know how terrible that boat controls B. The Remaster is adding cutscene skipping for the first time. A huge win for repeated playthroughs. The lack of 60fps is bad, but it seems they're putting effort into other aspects of the game that have aged badly.

[@ArcadianLegend]

I hope we get cameo costumes based on Zestiria, Berseria and Arise characters. Imagining these old almost chibi character models having outfits from a PS5 game would be something else.

[@AndySola]

I believe every person ever would prefer 60 fps over those two minor improvements.

[@OverruledDood]

@@AndySola "every person ever" lol I would much rather have cutscene skip. Half the reason I don't replay this is im mashing through text I've already read, sometimes for minutes.

[@AndySola]

@@OverruledDood Who plays RPG games just to skip the story though? Are you CDawgVA? lol

[@MarluxiaX2]

@@AndySola Please tell me you're not THAT dense? Who the hell wants to rewatch cut-scenes on a second run or for people who know everything abou the story but just want to get into the meaty bits already? Use your head dude.

[@fazlo8026]

LMFAO that 60 fps pc clip caught me off guard made me cackle. In all seriousness although it sucks not getting the gc version i’m really excited to finally experience this gem in the tales series as I don’t have access to sony, xbox and PC (def don’t have access to gc either) my switch is gonna experience long playtime with this one!

[@quentinlemaitre2998]

Shoutout to my mom, when I was a kid and too young to know better, I wanted my first console and she had absolutely no idea what to get me and she got me a GameCube pack with Symphonia, and Golden Sun on GBA. Thanks Mom for having such good taste!

[@glungusgongus]

These are the videos you guys should be doing more of.

[@DigiPen92]

Hey @Good Vibes Gaming, do you think you can do some FPS comparisons between the GameCube and PS3 or Steam version? I did beaten the Steam version and I don't have the GameCube version. I don't see any FPS problems while playing the Steam Version.

[@BmoreAkuma]

There are no "problems" perse if you don't mind "30 FPS"

[@DigiPen92]

@@BmoreAkuma I just wanted to see what the actual difference between the 30 FPS was and the 60 FPS from the GameCube version.

[@ciel1991]

Alright I know I'm like a week late but I just want to point out the sales data at the start is a bit outdated. -Vesperia is currently the highest selling game in the series at 2.8 million units sold (as of last September, so that number might be a bit higher now) -Symphonia is currently at 2.7 million units sold (this was announced at TGS when they were talking about the remaster so this video was probably already being worked on then)

[@OniLink99999]

You're killing it with these RPG videos Daniel - awesome work! =D

[@JediMastr80]

There is also 1 major gameplay problem that Tales of Symphonia had that later Tales games like Tales of the Abyss didn't have, which was the game LIMITS to 1 active Major Arte within a small window. Note: By Major Artes, I mean when the camera zooms in on the character as they say/cast the Arte. Let me give an example: Genis is setting up a larger Arte attack, and has finished to cast, but it doesn't trigger his attack because the boss for w/e reason gets priority and their attack works first. During this, let's say Raine is preparing to use Revitalize. The boss then uses their attack. Even if Genis and Raine's casting time was up, the game will PREVENT them from able to use their Major Arte attack since another person (the enemy) is using a Major Arte. There will be that noticable second or 2 delay before Genis's attack goes off, then finally Raine's would go off. Now, when you go to Tales of the Abyss, watch how MUCH faster and more responsive both players and enemies can cast Major Arte attacks. It will seamlessly move from player to player saying their Major Arte attacks right away after the camera zooms in to cast it and not have a delay like Tales of Symphonia had. I'd have Jade be using some spell, the boss then uses theirs, with then Tear follows up her spell, all within like 1 to 2 seconds. I also noticed that Abyss would purposely have some boss battles have your characters be speaking out scripted dialogue DURING the boss fight, something I don't think was used much in Symphonia (this I actually like). My guess, they realized this battle problem for Symphonia and made sure to fix it for Abyss, which is also when they added Free Run as well. I do NOT know if this was ever fixed in any of the re-releases for Symphonia. The only Symphonia version I've really played is the GameCube version. I tried the PS3 version a while back and I could not get past the low FPS. It just seems like it was stuttering to me and I didn't even make it out of Iselia for the PS3 version. The low FPS was just that bad for me that I couldn't continue.

[@Sjono]

6:42 Lol where’s Sorey in that awesome image. I love see him stand next to Velvet in official artwork

[@CrystalOmega]

I only just started playing this game on the gamecube and while i haven't finished it yet, i'm absolutely loving it, i can't wait too play more of it. I never knew how different the re-releases really were, soo it was interesting too find out about them. Great video as always!!! ❤️❤️❤️

[@dreamon3286]

That Flanoir music at the end though

[@BenjiBearPup]

Awesome gettng to hear you nerd out over Tales Daniel! This is my favorite JRPG series. I don't disagree that Tales of Symphonia on Gamecube looks a lot nicer with the cel shading and 60FPS. It's held up beautifully. Especially if you have an HDMI adapter for Gamecube. Whilst I do enjoy the JPOP goodness of the original Japanese openings the orchestral arrangement used for the English version is amazing. Especially the arrangement which plays near the end of the game for one cutscene. The extras that the PS2 version included are neat, but sadly even though the dub actors returned. You could tell they were out of practice with the roles and sounded off. Possibly a different director too. Name changes too...Kratos Shining Bind being changed to Holy Bind despite it being called Shining Bind in Japanese and also called Shining Bind in the English version of Tales of Vesperia where Kratos is in the cameo battle. I do appreciate the extras, but none in particular stand out to make it worth playing over the Gamecube version. Also the Gamecube version notably has the Tech Glitch to get Tech from both paths. The Dragon in the Temple of Earth which incorrectly gives 10000 Gald making restoring a certain village easier. And if you use an Action Replay you can see the characters have some interesting unused Tech. Notably Raine's Mystic Arte (unfinished but with battle quote) she also has Dark attacks, Bloody lance and Dark sphere..which would've been very helpful as Dark element attacks are very scarce with only Summon Shadow and Adding Dark Element to weapons temporarily. Colette also has the Tech Grand Fall which is a reference to Tales of Eternia and crashes the game! If you have an Action Replay for Gamecube it's worth taking a look at this! Either way I have Tales of Symphonia on Gamecube, PS3 and Steam and i'll be picking up the Switch version as I want to see more Tales ports. Or localise some Japanese only Tales games already!!!! Innocence, Destiny DC, Destiny 2, Rebirth, Phantasia! (GBA version sucks)

[@zakuronakashima]

I'm gonna sound weird for this... But I've played and cleared Tales of Symphonia over 21 times. Gamecube version only. But never actually owned a copy Myself. This remaster may be jank; but I'm getting the CE for it because I love this game. If I have to get a PC version and mods for "True High Definition" then I will do that too. This is my first Tales game and I will never forget it.

[@bjbovia]

Daniel please keep making JRPG videos!

[@Dominic-jg3no]

12:32 LOL "it makes my expheres recoil back" I like this video! Great take on it! Also your friend NEEDS to play the original, I'm with you on that

[@rdmgurgs]

I think I just saw you in Splatoon 3 lol. I'm glad I found the channel. I also have the GameCube version of Tales of Symphonia, one of my favorite RPG's of all time.

[@robertwilliamson2856]

I would say this is Daniel's best video yet. Keep doing an awesome job, Daniel!

[@retrokiv5344]

I bought the gamecube version at the mall about five years ago. Beaten it once and haven't touched it since. I might have to revisit it again before the remaster release.

[@ghostea13]

the opening song gave me chills, so much nostalgia booting that up. I couldn't tell you the amount of save files my gamecube memory cards have for this game, still have my OG copy. Despite all these things, I am excited to have this game wherever I go when I want to play. I agree though, they could've honored it more with this release.

[@daniel13789]

For those playing the Steam version. If you use Lossless Scaler, you can play at artificial 60fps. Some moments might look warpy, but overall, I'd say it's an improvement over the vanilla ps2 port if 30fps is a deal breaker. I didn't notice any input lag in my testing. There's also a cheat engine table that allows many added features. Two of which are an expanded Arte set (Arte sphere) and the ability to free run like in future 3D titles.

[@cafesizzle]

they need to give this one more love. I love symphonia

[@sperryyoungerjr.3985]

I have the GameCube version of Symphonia and it's my first Tales of game and because of it, I'm a massive Tales of fan and it's my favorite gaming franchise of all time. I was so happy when I saw the masters announcement for the Switch, since I had planned on getting either the Steam or PS3 version for my KZbin/Twitch/Rumble channel, but now thanks to this, I know which version I want to get for that purpose.

[@paperluigi6132]

I’m just happy to finally experience the Final Fantasy VII of the Tales of series.

[@Silverstar1995]

Hey, where'd you get the frame for the Zelda poster? I just have mine free-hanging because the thing is a weird size.

[@shuckletamergaming]

I was extremely fortunate to have been gifted the Gamecube version shortly before the switch version was released. I also have the sequel for the Wii, so I'm look forward to doing the let's plays of the best versions of both games.

[@TheLegendofLeo]

Easily a must-have if you owned a Gamecube way back. You did a great job of honouring this game. Nice video!

[@mookiestewart3776]

yoooo the western gamecube intro for symphonia is sooooo gooooo!!!

[@ConnerTheWaffle]

Tales of Symphonia love is always great to see

[@sharuko24]

Really like the energy you bring to this video. Looking forward to more bub! Its rough that there already exist such a great version that most of people whos trying it for the first time gets cap by Namdai Bamco.

[@silverquillproductions4076]

I’ve still got my GameCube version that I play on Wii and it will still always be one of my all time most favorite games!!

[@polymvth]

Great vid! A shame the ports have never hit the 60 of the original. I wonder if the frame interpolation on nvidia dlss 3.0 would be able to “overcome” the limitation on the PC version of this and other 30fps locked games, since it just uses AI to insert artificial frames between real frames (i.e. a gaming focused version of the soap opera effect mode on TV’s)

[@borgs101]

Man I loved this game, I'm keen to buy it again on Switch since I haven't it since back in the GCN days ... Despite the disappointment with 30fps

[@sonicrider321]

This hurts for me to hear that Symphonia will now be stuck at this "new" version of the game for what seems like forever. Almost like the Gamecube version of the game there was something wrong and just decided to never come back. I have the GameCube version and love it to hell and back, its a great game and I'm super happy that it's getting some spotlight after so long, it needed it. But having to play a game made back in 2003, you would think that we should be able to have a version that would run significantly better than it did back then but looks like we are stuck playing Symphonia with worse specs. What hurts the most though is that Symphonia has a legacy and fans that will see the game and buy it no matter what, which from there Bandai will see the sales and say that it was a success but in fact there needed to be a few more tweaks to really give the newest experience of the game.

[@rickydargence5948]

Wanna nail Bamco to the cross, Symphonia deserves better, and I would gladly give up the "new content" if it meant we can have it at 60fps on current consoles to be perfectly honest, just make it so that the titles are independent from the costumes, easy fix I think.

[@BDOGG345]

I actually own the game on Steam, but didn't know there were settings to fix things to look nicer. How do I do that?

[@MajoraZ]

So, ARE there fixes to all of the re-releases issues on steam, then? Or is there still no functioning 60fps fan patch/hack?

[@Linkmstr]

Can't fix them all, sadly. There won't be a functioning 60fps patch/hack without actually reverse engineering the game's code and modifying the right stuff, which would take a lot of time and effort to do. And Bamco is the only one with the source codes for the PS2/PS3/PC to actually work with and modify, but sadly chose the lazy, greedy route for this "modern" remaster.

[@tyd8814]

Nice job with the vid! This is great info for someone who is just getting into the tales series and was considering buying tales of symphonia remastered

[@DodgeThisBam]

How am I just now finding this video? Amazing foresight into what the remasters were going to be Daniel. Just a heads up, there are fan made textures and modulations for the GCN version usable through Dolphin that result, IMO, in the best looking and smoothest version of Tales Of Symphonia currently possible. If you're curious as to how it looks have a look at my "Tethe'allan Remaster" videos on my channel.

[@GigaOtomia]

If you just set the code to 60 FPS, Lloyd starts doing irish dancing!

[@VncentValntine]

12:22 man thank you for showing me this, it has been a lingering question in my mind ever since the ps2 version was released and I never knew how to search for the answer outside of playing the game again on ps2.... And I had a plethora of better things to do than that since I seem to recall this was a dungeon pretty far into the game.

[@DigitaIJustice]

I have only played this game on the GameCube on a CRT. I cannot wait for HD 1080p on an OLED.

[@Snotnarok]

I'm really frustrated by this & the community, I'm seeing people say "What more could they do" and we have Konami, of all companies doing a dual pack of Suikoden 1 & 2 actually proper remastered in one package. Konami who can't be bothered to do anything more than NFTs is doing a better job than Namco. Symphonia is the one I heard the most about for a long time but Namco can't even do the legwork for their big title here for some reason. Voicing al the skits would have been great and getting the framerate & visuals up to snuff would have been really nice. Obviously it's not like flipping a switch, even with Xillia on an emu it gets borked with the cutscenes. Instead it's the same jank port. I'm wondering what issue they have with the game or if they just feel like making new things. Which, if that's the case? They should just not bother putting out remasters like this. And anyone defending any of these ports I'd like you to consider that this game's performance has been complained about since the first remaster to PS3 and it's never been addressed and- when your remaster has worse performance than the OG almost 20 years ago? That's, not a good remaster. I'm hoping if they do tackle Tales of Xillia they do a bit better of a job, because as it stands on an emu ToX runs so much nicer- as in no slowdown. Sunburst on PS3 would hurt the framerate and forget it if Elise and/or Rowan cast anything. But this really has my faith shaken in Bamco. :\

[@genemelendez8157]

7:40 honestly I wouldn’t mind doing this on a second play through, this looks hilarious

[@silverquillproductions4076]

This game is true artwork in motion in every aspect no matter what ❤️

[@DaniSarfati]

My brother always talked about Tales of Destiny when we were growing up but I thought I never gave it a chance until Vesperia launched on Xbox 360. I really enjoyed it. I'm not playing the PSX remake of Phantasia and about 25 hours in and think it's aged really well! Even my daughter enjoys the 2 player combat aspect!

[@jokiu4]

Symphonia is one of my top favorite games of all time. When I heard that it was finally coming to Switch, I was overjoyed! I played the game originally on Game Cube then later on PC. I've completed the game many times already and I'll never get tired of it. My only hope for the Switch version is that it has all the content that the Game Cube version was missing, like certain Arts and cinematics. I'm absolutely excited to get it on Switch and I don't care if it runs at 30FPS, just as long as it's fully playable and has ALL the content~

[@Saragraph]

I never knew about this until now. While I could just pick up the Steam release and download those mods, I prefer the portability of the Switch and the physical release. But I do kinda feel bad now knowing that when I get around to the game, I'm playing such a suboptimal version...

[@mohq9183]

I can't figure out if I should play the GameCube on dolphin or on steam with tsfix. I want the 60fps but also the extra content. I dabbled with tsfix and put the framerate to 35fps cap and the inputs are way more responsive and the games a bit faster but feels normal

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

The extra aren't worth the framerate drop.

[@mohq9183]

@@ChiefMedicPururu you think eh? I hear the GameCube version but not the PC version. PC looks great with mods but holy. The GameCube one rubs great on my Galaxy S24+

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

@@mohq9183 PC still has issues, even with mods.

[@MentalApparitions]

As someone who has never played Tales of Symphonia but has been meaning to for years this video was extremely helpful! Fortunately I happen to own both the GameCube and PS3 versions so I have the option to play both. After watching your video though I definitely think I'll go with the GameCube version. Out of curiosity do the newer ports have fully voiced English skits or is that just in Japanese?

[@djhowell5273]

I got my copy recently for 50 bones. Not bad considering paper mario was 100 and the twin snakes was 130

[@wackko300]

I loved this game! I had to buy it again for PS3! It’s of the few RPGs that I replayed more than once! I still have the GameCube version too!

[@Denver3D]

Should I play the remaster version on steam or the GameCube version ? What do you guys advise

[@epy0nkaru]

7:40 is this the new M. Night movie?

[@Raikou.Shirogane]

Tales of Symphonia for me is the best Tales game. I’ve always tried getting into the other Tales games after it but it just seemed to fall short for me (not that they are bad games by any means). I’ve played Symphonia across all available platforms and your points made in the video are well presented. For those that haven’t played Symphonia yet, I highly recommend playing it. Do check a few other player reviews before dipping in for a purchase (especially if you’re looking for the GameCube version which is harder to come by). If you play it on the recent versions based off of the PS2 version, you’ll still have a good time with the story albeit with the minor gripes about optimization.

[@Nier2J]

Dropped the PS3/Steam version for the gamecube version when I had the chance. 60 fps on this game...totally changes the experience, imo. It's not only a question of loading time, but for a tales of, the precision in battles are very important, so the gamecube version is clearly more accurate than the more recent one.

[@OCDgee]

Although the higher fps of the GC version is nice, if you're playing this game with friends, the PS3/PC version is the way to go. The camera in battles in the GC version only focused on player 1, so anyone else who was playing could not see what they were doing, as it zoomed in super close on player 1. So, as first player, you had to purposefully target certain enemies & do stuff to try to manipulate the camera to allow others to see what they were doing. This was fixed in the PS3/PC versions, as the camera actually zooms out automatically when you have multiple players.

[@wolffster25]

Yeah this is one of those games I played a ton on GameCube. If it’s not running at 60fps it an easy pass for me. It’s going to be great for new fans if you have never played the game as the story is still one of the best in the franchise. Also I love Scott Menville (aka Robin from Teen Titans) as Lloyd it’s one of his best performance the English voice direction for Symphonia is great across the board honestly.

[@chrisdiokno5600]

I'll take your word for it, but I lean more towards the PS3 version cause it's the first time I ever knew of Tales despite owning a PS1 and GameCube and all that, and the added content

[@TGoB]

I would prefer a full rebuild with the 60 fps. The newer cell shaded look would be nice too, but not required. As for another game from Bandai Namco that I would like for them to show love for is Digimon World 3

[@tigusvaton8406]

I just bought it on sale for 20$ ( I had bunch of discounts and ended up only paying 7.83 ) for the Switch. I'll play it eventually but this is one of the games that got me into JRPGs even though I never beat it growing up so really excited actually i gave a PS4 as well but it was only available for switch where i was so i went with that option.