The Tragedy and Comeback of Cyberpunk 2077

[@marknielsbeats]

Hype is only a phenomenon, quality is a legacy.

[@GHOSTRIDER373737]

And mods are eternal!

[@Livi_Noelle]

This; absolutely this. I made this exact statement in my own comment, but was less eloquent and more verbose. Either can cause issues, but when the two come together, it almost always causes problems.

[@saint1515]

100 percent based 👍 you are

[@AshyGr33n]

damn that deep

[@imam8432]

​@Hopelessly Critical very very low quality game

[@kudo7821]

The fact that the narrator actually makes an effort to pronounce the names of the staff correctly is enough to know how much care went into this analysis alone. Out of all the youtubers who’ve made it their job to cover anything to do with this game and CDPR, it’s insane how unwilling those people are to go the extra mile to learn how to pronounce polish names correctly.

[@MCKZD]

Yet still eberybody pronounce cd project, not projekt like it shoul be ;) (should sound like proyeckt)

[@jonbaxter2254]

He does a great job with Japanese devs too.

[@barateza16]

Learning how to pronounce foreign names should be basic human decency. No one likes to see their name butchered because someone didn't care to learn properly.

[@Lance_Lionroar]

@@MCKZD Literally all 3 things you just typed sound the same.

[@chrispekel5709]

@@barateza16 Everyone gets my name wrong, I don't care at all.

[@bobbymurphy5003]

This channel is what I love about video game media , takes an analytical approach the a genre which was once disregarded as being for kids or people in their basements.

[@polishhamnr1469]

More like jump bandwagon.

[@INFILTR8US]

it's still for kids and people in their basements

[@TheJunnutin]

@@INFILTR8US But it's not ONLY for us anymore ;)

[@CMDR_CLASSIFIED]

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[@CMDR_CLASSIFIED]

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[@DeadlyLazer]

I still love the fact that it's 100% canon that Ciri lived in the Cyberpunk dimension for years.

[@DeadlyLazer]

@@CaptainBlaine well yeah it's CDPR Witcher canon, not real Witcher canon. It's funny to think that sometime in the 80s, Mike Pondsmith was working on his tabletop game, while all the way in Poland, Sapkowski was writing Witcher, not knowing of each other's existence, and that 40 years later their works would converge in a weird way.

[@solitary2]

Idc what CDPR says, Ciri was chilling in Night City

[@OzzyBen07]

I never blame developers about these kinds of disaster stories. They're merely cogs in the machine. It's always the higher ups that fuck things up

[@cyanyde4950]

pretty much what happened devs said do not release the game it's not ready, higher ups in corporate said release it anyway put out patches later due to the unacceptable threats they got from consumers on top of investors getting worried about the delays, if investors and consumers had just managed themselves and behaved letting the devs do what they knew needed to be done the whole thing could have been avoided, ironic since CP2077 is pretty much a tale on why corporate power is dangerous and the studio that made it fell victim to having their hands forced by corporate power.

[@OzzyBen07]

Consumers are the worst sometimes. Have some fucking patience. If a game gets delayed deal with it.

[@nicholascowling7052]

I'm mixed... devs don't deserve the blame, but someone also could have whistle blown or leaked the modern state of the game. I think they were drinking just as much kool-aid as we were in thinking that it would be done in time.

[@coldmexican288]

@@nicholascowling7052 No, that's very uncharitable towards the devs. First, the devs almost certainly know that accomplishing a gigantic game for several platforms would not be easy but they have no say in it and I don't know if you're aware but whistle-blowers aren't liked or welcomed just about anywhere. Whistle-blowing is a double edged sword for the person and chances are you'll be losing more than the company or persons you're blowing the whistle on. There's no body willing to lose their job and run the risk of ruining their entire career in that field and even run the risk of litigation. The devs did their job with the time frames and tools at their disposal. I wholly believe the only people to blame here are the execs who only have eyes for profits and are blinded to everything else. Hell, I would even put more blame on us, the consumers, for exacerbating the unrealistic expectations and irresponsibly throwing money at the pre order scheme before I put blame on the devs.

[@chrisyork3709]

Yeah, I place the blame squarely on executives/ marketing. Buried beneath the bugs and performance problems was/ is a great game and with all the patching I feel like it's in a good place right now (but they need to keep going to make this game into what it deserves to be). I personally waited til 1.5 to play (after being disappointed with how the launch went/ was received) and I fell in love with the game. Delaying the game til this year and completely dropping the old-ass and subpar hardware of PS4/ XbOne would have made a huge difference. Hopefully they learned a lesson from this experience though because I'm not sure the company could handle or survive another botch of this magnitude, not to mention all the good will they had earned with the Witcher series being basically flushed down the toilet.

[@ZombieGuy2401]

I feel I got into this game at the perfect time: once it was fixed. I fell absolutely in love with the world and its characters and have sunk a LOT of time into it

[@baumkuchen6543]

Same here. It just breaks my heart thinking how perfect this game could have been if CDPR slapped shitty managers at the right time. Shit like that always happens because of morons in suits listening to money and investors instead of engineers.

[@viktorvondoom5950]

I agree. I am playing it on my PS4 Pro and can still see many infuriating bugs, but I love Night City and its stories. It is kind of sad because you can clearly see glimpses of what this game could have been if the suits had not decided to do what they did. It is clear the devs and the writers loved this project.

[@cubanref9670]

Nah. You missed out on the memes. It was fun to shit on, but then CD Project Red got their act together and pulled a No Mans Sky. We trolled them to do better, and it worked.

[@realbabyeater]

Fr, I just started playing it and I'm loving it so far, I got it as a christmas gift when it came out but I didn't have the computer for it and very recently bought a new computer which can play it at max graphics, and i'm honestly glad I wasn't able to play it until now.

[@retrofrontier86]

Same here. I just started it on Christmas Eve and I'm closing in on 90 hours. It's absolutely fantastic. I'm completely in love with this game despite its history and lingering flaws. I'm still knocking out side content. One final story mission left and I'm hesitant to start it because I'll be a bit sad saying goodbye to this amazingly realized and engrossing world. I held off on playing this game back in 2020 because of all the reported glitches and bugs. Now I'm glad I picked 2 years later to experience this incredible adventure. I can't get enough of it. This game is a remarkable achievement and I always felt there was a great game buried under technical issues.

[@24YOA]

If you told me a year ago that an anime and weebs would give a game a 2nd chance, I'd call you insane.

[@Criddy420]

Gamers are fickle tho

[@YarugumaSou]

A year? Try 10 years. Manga and anime consumption in the west have far surpassed cartoon and comic books.

[@exysa2798]

They don't give them a 2nd chance. Its CDPR employees and CDPR bots Playing it. Its marketing

[@youdonegoofed]

@@exysa2798 lol okay bozo

[@mookiestewart3776]

@@exysa2798 yeah that's why steam engagement is up 130% since the anime came out.......good call lol

[@Jackstalkerfear]

One last thing to note as well is that CDPR has released REDMod which are the modding tools needed for the game, unless I missed it I don't think you mentioned it? Modding has also helped a lot to put new life into this game as it enabled a lot of other fixes and or changes that affect any playthrough. And with REDMod that should go better or be easier

[@TheKurtkapan34]

purchased it on release, played 2 hours and left it. Returned after edgerunners, added a mod package from nexus with about 200 mods, most of them bug fixes and quality of life upgrades. 25 hours in, only had one crash, surprisingly very stable. Having a blast so far. Mods are a must.

[@drazgul1]

@@TheKurtkapan34 They aren't necessary, haven't gotten any crash on PS5 either since patch 1.5 and have played over 200 hours

[@azraelfaust487]

@@TheKurtkapan34 played it ( edgerunners update ) and never had a single crash, a couple of visuals bugs that's it, has nothing to do with the mod package you installed

[@mhm5020]

@@TheKurtkapan34 It took me 50 hours into my 1.6 playthrough to get my first crash and I had no mods installed

[@Phantom-kc9ly]

I've actually been crashing constantly. I think it has to do with 3080tis not having a big enough heatsink. I have to use dlss at 1080p to not get a gpu related crash.

[@camerabenj]

The detail & research you put into these videos goes a long way! Very appreciated.

[@abdelali9279]

Even though I appreciate the efforts to improve the in-game experience from CDPR personally, I wouldn't say it is in the same level as the No Man's Sky "redemption arc", because that game ended up getting all promised features and mechanics that were hyped such as multiplayer and even more, but Cyberpunk 2077 is now at least in a more bearable state that would allow to us to enjoy the story especially if you get the game on clearance.

[@blueprint7]

just wait

[@efxnews4776]

Feature promised and stuff like that, were cut off, probably because Quantum Labs had bug quotas. This lead to an onslaught of content, to hold of bugs that probably wouldn't be much of problem, if the scrap content didn't generated more. CDPR still were wrong, but theres others guilty. I believe now, that the updates adding some of this features, are precisly the cut content, some of this were actually found and fixed by modders.

[@quinnmarchese6313]

no mans sky is only on another level because they implemented all the promised features and more over the last 6 years. CP77 is incomparable simple because its been out less than 2

[@abeidiot]

@@efxnews4776 as a lead developer these insights are very valuable to me. I've too often seen disconnect between QA and Product teams leading to such issues. The QA lead should know the product as good as the Product manager themselves. Not sure how the game industry handles this

[@AD-df5tm]

Yeah i really don't understand why everyone is talking about Cyberpunks "redemption". It's pretty much the same game it was on release. It just works better now. They haven't changed anything about it really.

[@Matt-bg5wg]

I bought and played Cyberpunk on launch on PC, and while I thoroughly enjoyed it, I definitely felt like something was missing. Playing it again now (with mods) truly unleashed the vision of what the game should’ve been at launch. I for one welcome Phantom Liberty with open arms in 2023 although I do hope some more patches and free dlc get deployed before then…

[@CreamySenpai31]

Yes most definitely. I just got back on the game and it plays so much better than it used to. I’m loving every moment and I can’t wait for the dlc. They definitely need a couple more big patches to get rid of as many bugs as possible and add more content. If they do that I’ll be hooked on this game for years.

[@thedopeson]

What's different about the game? The bug never bothered me, but the terrible AI, tedious looting and inventory management, lackluster story, and lifeless open world are what kept me from enjoying it. Has any of that been improved significantly? Or is it just less buggy?

[@Ink129]

@@thedopeson I played about 8 hours of the game at launch until I just couldn't deal with it anymore. The bugs were really bad, yes, but, just like you, my main gripes were with fundemental gameplay mechanics. I tried it again a few days ago. I'm only about 3-4 hours in on this new playthrough, and it's definitely less buggy. Gameplay wise it's still... awkward so far and I don't feel that the gripes we seem to both have had with it at launch are improved on that much. But I'm still only a few hours in, so it wouldn't be entirely fair of me to write it off just yet - I hope I'll get some time to play a few more hours of it this weekend. I'm not too optimistic so far though.

[@babyfaec]

What mods did you use while playing it? Thinking of playing it for the first time

[@just1it1moko]

I'm just blown away by their guts for releasing paid DLC after barely fixing anything in the game. like they've added some appartments, transmog and some quests right?

[@peterclarke7240]

Also. Never forget that cdpr threw their QA dept, the most underpaid depart there, under the bus to save the CEO's reputation. Evil bastards.

[@alaric_]

Umm... Isn't that what will always happen? Not an excuse but you said like this was the 'first time ever'. Vice versa, i have never heard of an instance where company would throw the CEO to save the QA dept under the bus. Not ok but just saying that how it always goes.

[@jordanwhite352]

​@@alaric_I think the core of the lies and betrayal was that CD project red fed into its own propaganda by trying to act like that. They were the not EA and activisions of the world that there was somehow different when this told the completely different story.

[@attilavidacs24]

The games disastrous launch lies with Marcin Iwiński and upper leadership giving devs impossible deadlines to meet. Marcin also lied and was deceitful on how well the game performed and they also refused to give out review copies.

[@hikari67]

Or pushing stupid shit like Keanu in the story way to late in development, thus fucking up the project so bad they had to rewrite the whole story and change the game.

[@NiGHTSChao689]

As a person who was very skeptical of the game at lunch, who avoided it until now... I have to say, I got into it because of how good the anime was. And not going to lie, in its present state I'm having a lot of fun. It definitely has quirks and some things I think should change but I legit hope that they keep developing more for it. I like this universe a lot and I want more. I'm just barely into the main game and already having such a great time.

[@schemar17]

Bro I wish they added 3rd person literally the only reason I'm not playing it

[@NiGHTSChao689]

@@schemar17 it definitely feels like it's in the pipeline

[@RavenL1337]

@@NiGHTSChao689 they won’t like bro the game is still an mediocre game!!! XD

[@NiGHTSChao689]

@@RavenL1337 compared to all the other mainstream crap the industry puts out, it's not as bad as it was at launch. I think it was well worth $30

[@jhaller90]

@@schemar17 i think they are doing it but currently they are reworking the police system and hopefully the gang system

[@deepfriedicecream576]

anyone else unable to watch this video? I’m getting a “No stream tap to retry” on mobile. Idk what this issue is, tried resets and stuff, not working.

[@noyolamusic]

Same here

[@brooooooooooser]

same

[@lego_minifig]

I don’t know why I can watch this. I keep seeing the comments updating, but the video won’t load. Says there is no stream. Anyone else having this issue?

[@rustyshackle8000]

Edgerunners got me to give 2077 a chance after the launch disappointed me. Glad I gave it a second chance because I got an insanely engaging crime thriller and exploration of mortality. The gameplay could be better, but shit, the voice acting, characters, and writing it all top notch.

[@joshuagraham2843]

i heard cd projects will give adam smasher more challenging just like the anime cuz they know adam smasher sucks right now and give improvements

[@kinga.t.242]

@@joshuagraham2843 he is much better after 1.5 especially if you puted the game on very hard

[@Walamonga1313]

You and millions of other weebs apparently

[@CrowofYharnam]

Game is dogshit it was supposed to be an rpg and what we got was a shitty gta clone in FPP

[@LeftJoystick]

@@Walamonga1313 it’s pretty cringe tbh. Anime saved this game? lmfao

[@j.a.weishaupt1748]

I keep on getting the message “No Stream” so I can’t watch this video. It’s only with this video…

[@j.a.weishaupt1748]

And now after a few days it suddenly works… what the f…?

[@tomasrolter6729]

I want to thank everyone who worked and is working to improve Cyberpunk. May you be in good health.

[@TacynMegan]

what did we learn? if your game bombs so hard it almost bankrups you make an anime with a cute loli

[@Deltaworks23]

And some female producer at CDPR wanted the "loli" removed. My expectations of CDPR are in the damn gutter.

[@zerotonine807]

I bought Cyberpunk in beginning of 2024 - so over 3 years after release. I knew about the launch disaster but never really though of the game. So i started the game in 2024 with the Version 2.0 (or above?) on the xbox series x and what can i say: the best game i ever played! and i will continue to play it as it is just massive.

[@artair70]

"best game i ever played" Yikes, dog faeces has better taste.

[@markgruner5812]

I mean, as somebody who went through the launch in the worst way possible on base ps4, the game is in a much better state. It's still NOWHERE near the game they promised at this point. The RPG aspects are very minimal, the choices feel unimportant, they never added vehicle customization, the vehicles still handle like shit, and there's STILL graphical bugs to this day. Even after the changes coming in the patch with the DLC these promises still remain unfulfilled and they're dropping support for the game after the DLC so it's never gonna be the game we were promised.

[@zuppiera2148]

Yes it felt more like an action Openworld FPS with minimal RPG. The most RPG thing are just dialogues.. I loved the game tho, played on deck in these xmas days

[@kennhua4311]

Did it really comeback though? I think it still has some ways

[@ErmanME]

Anyone having trouble with watching the video? It says “No stream” on my screen.

[@distantblaze561]

Why is EVERYONE claiming Cyberpunk 2077 is what they initially promised now? It still has no car customisation, no extra story paths and a ton more- yet suddenly a Netflix anime comes out and everyone forgets that they promised you could become part of Trauma Team... Absolutely ridiculous.

[@schemar17]

Yeah bro people are easy to forgive

[@MarsOnGod]

Thank you dude! This game is still not what they advertised it would be

[@YellowTissueBox]

If you got on the hype train based on a trailer and market speak then you're a silly sausage mate.

[@Reese_Calloway]

Short lived memories and the willingness to accept anything - even cardboard - just to eat. Just like Johnny said, " Mindless f**kin' consumerism wins the day again."

[@Agencyagent34]

@@Reese_Calloway this is honestly the truth. People have been fooled to being damn near soldiers for the products they purchase. It’s almost like they are defending themselves.

[@mcq2879]

Comeback? No I don't think so. I've seen videos of the latest patch 1.6. They are still years off from delivering the game they promised during all the marketing hype they did

[@SMJSmoK]

It literally surpassed Witcher 3, one of the most successful games ever, in player numbers. That's what they mean by comeback.

[@mcq2879]

@@SMJSmoK Clickbait title of course

[@CaptainMauser]

Dude should be a narrator at cbs 60 minutes

[@thefirely1439]

Unfortunately the devs were pretty much forced to send it out. I do think they have made it one of my favorite games now. It has slick gameplay, an intriguing story, sidemissions that were actually interesting, and some cool as shit clothes and cars.

[@bish0p3473]

Coming: When it's ready. March 2023: It's still not done.

[@ULTRAWIDE.]

No stream, tap to retry

[@soul-candy-music]

I feel like your channel is large enough to court important interviews w/ the people involved in the stories you tell. You should totally try reaching out to these companies and see if anyone is willing to answer a couple of questions.

[@Bollibompa]

They've never done it. It's not part of their style to interview. It never has been and it probably never will.

[@happilyham6769]

Part of the problem was the hype. Before the game even came out, my brother was saying it's the best game ever made. No, you can't say things like that. Peoples hopes and expectations were unrealistically high.

[@John-996]

CD Project did not help that.

[@mohamednail1707]

@@John-996 yeah cdpr just kept adding fuel to the fire when they were marketing cyberpunk

[@John-996]

@@mobya80 Yes But If you Look At marking for Witcher 3. Or Look at Rockstars Marketing for Games like RDR1, LA Noire, Maxpayne 3, GTA5 and RDR2 all these tell you what the games are what the main focus and goal of the games are. They do this without over selling the game. Not like Todd Howard 16 times the detail. I was hyped for Cyberpunk ,but after replaying witcher 3 I saw quite flaws. I Set my expectations lower After this. But Marketing needs to get the right Mix of hype but not hype to the point its to good to be true.

[@34口2fds蛋トマgs]

@@mobya80 Most people don't complete their games. They aren't going to play long enough to collect a damn thing and whine about any generic template. They pay a lot of money for these shinny new toys then toss them aside. Hype and marketing sell the games, not the actual quality. The psychotic toxic gamers on internet communities are clearly a vocal minority, and they do not represent the silent majority at the slightest.

[@AD-df5tm]

Sure, hype can lead to disappointment but the game was literally broken when they released it and alot of the shit they marketed was not actually in the game. Thats a VERY different thing.

[@TechGamesAU]

Anyone else unable to watch this? It just says ‘no stream’

[@JorgeGonzalezC10]

I don't have the most powerful PC, but I never really experienced any major glitches, just some minor ones like you show at 10:10. So I got to enjoy the game since launch. I also didn't get trapped into all the hype, so I never really understood why people hated it. Sure i saw videos about it's glitches and bugs, but I'd just go and play some more and continue to enjoy it.

[@yvastel8153]

There's that one subquest that involved a couple and some "people" that were secretly "monitoring" them behind the walls of their own house. That one quest was creepy beyond almost anything i've ever experienced and really wished there were more of it. The main quest was cool, but that subquest man... That was some lovecraftian cyberpunk stuff.

[@robloxpwnr7604]

The peralez quest was wicked, learning about the mind control and secret society aspect was so cool. Sad that nothing came of it and the concept dropped off after those couple missions

[@Alex_Hoss]

I really liked that mission too. I always thought it was bugged for me, as it seemed the story just cut off and never concluded. I got to the stage where I informed the husband, he got angry and...I never heard from him again. For the rest of the game I was waiting for a call that never came from him/his wife, which would trigger the final chapter of the side quest.

[@JeesupGra]

@@Alex_Hoss In my playtrough I got message from husband talking about it that his wife shown him this room, after V answered you get message that this number is no longer existing.

[@fs5866]

Yea man, that quest was one of the most disturbing and amazing quests in gaming. Everything is sooo well written about it, you can feel the dread of all the implications.

[@lightkeeper1238]

Sinnerman. Thats all I gotta say.

[@vicarious7858]

I finished the game just before 1.6 on 1.5 and I gotta say that despite some bugs, it's a damn good game! I'm looking forward to the DLC and I hope we see a new Cyberpunk sooner rather that later.

[@magregory1985]

Snap and do agree bits did feel missing from game. I've completed numerous times and think the game is really underated just glad people get to see what it truely is now

[@randymarsh9488]

@@magregory1985 I play the game about a week after lunch, and it was mediocre at best. I'm not going to replay just because some patches came out. I had very little bugs throughout my gameplay and I never crash because I have a good pc. However, the story was mediocre at best and wasn't really memorable to me. The side quests were more interesting than the main quest at times and that's kind of a bad thing, because a good story should have good side quests as well and be balanced like the old assassin's Creed. On top of that, some of the models didn't really look spectacular and looked old and basic. The anime show edge runners was phenomenal, visually and well written. If only this game were like that.

[@virtuaspeedone]

May need to upload again isn’t working for me

[@Ride-Drive]

The biggest redemption is No Man's Sky, not this. Edit: channel changed name of the video

[@Indygenous]

Was just gonna comment this ☝☝☝

[@Seantorious]

I agree!

[@chilbiyito]

Emphasis on "An" amazing redemption

[@Shuubox]

cry about it

[@MahoganyBlack]

Anyone else having trouble seeing this video?

[@MathieuRohaly]

It works in my browser for me but not in the app. It’s bizarre.

[@MahoganyBlack]

Woah, you’re right. Weird they gotta fix that

[@MathieuRohaly]

@@MahoganyBlack it’s likely a transcoding issue on KZbin’s end since it’s only available in 360p. The problem is getting KZbin’s attention so they can fix it lol

[@BiO811HazarD]

Does this video not work for anyone else? I can watch other videos just fine but this one fails to load.

[@richcoss84]

The only tragedy here is that your video won’t play

[@EFerrorfile]

I liked the story of this game, excited to see what that DLC is going to be like.

[@soap147]

Anyone’s video keep saying “tap to retry, no stream” ?

[@AppalachianDiscovery]

Notice how nobody ever had a problem with the story. It’s so obvious how great the story is!

[@theswedishdude1]

the absolute balls on these "investors" to try and sue CDPR for releasing the game early even though it's ALWAYS these people pushing for the games to be released early so their stocks earn them more money. it's good that the investors lost money, they all deserve bankruptcy

[@John-996]

Yeah Investors really ruin allot of games.

[@lutherheggs451]

Yeah no, im sorry you don't get to be blame free for releasing a garbage game.....The investors didn't make them cut out almost all of their promised game mechanics, the investors didn't tell them to spend a decade developing the game. If you can't make a game in 10 years, the problem is YOU the developer not the investors... Its so hilarious when the "anti-corporate" people who LMFAO try to blame everything on the people who pay the money to fund the game, have to grind the hell out of the devs dicks, never once thinking its incompetence at making a genre of game you have never made before or having to high of dreams for your level of work experience.....LMFAO it would be hilarious if the investors went bankrupt, then the imbeciles who cry constantly because they live in fairy fantasyland would have to find a new hobby, games don't make themselves

[@r.daneel.90]

Game companies should remain private. When they become public and have to worry about the stock market and investors, that's when a lot more of problems arise.

[@utisti4976]

@@r.daneel.90 Exactly.

[@Shendue]

Lost money? I've read the game was a huge commercial success, even with the refunds. How did they lose money?

[@luisfaraudo2953]

I'll never get tired of saying that this is one of the best KZbin channels around.

[@TerpeneProfile1]

Agreed! Although, i cannot distinguish if the narrator is a really good bot or a actual human being??

[@VonTaylan]

@@TerpeneProfile1 HAHAHAHA 🤣 That is the exact thing i was thinking about the last 2 or 3 years. Is he a state of the art voice AI... or just some monotoon human being?

[@ggavia1382]

Hey anyone having problems watching the video? Currently shows no steam- tap to retry on moblie

[@TigerXtm]

Video down for anyone else?

[@adeoyesimeon3821]

The video isn’t playing

[@fireaza]

9:16 This, along with the whole Cyberpunk fiasco in general proves that the only thing The Gamers love more than having a game to Stan (despite them not having played it, since it's not even out yet), is having a game to hate.

[@MatrakenKEN]

Gaming's biggest redemption was No Man's Sky Edit. the new title makes more sense

[@Criddy420]

With every "free" update comes more sales. Do you think Shaun would pump out those DLCs if the game was no longer profitable? Nope.

[@jakefoley9539]

A 1/10 that took years to become a 3/10. Wow, some redemption.

[@exysa2798]

Yes. Cyberpunk was made by inexperienced amateurs

[@MatrakenKEN]

@@jakefoley9539 are you talking about cyberpunk or nms? Or both maybe

[@MatrakenKEN]

@@Criddy420 I love that you put quotations in free

[@joshuaturner2970]

No stream tap to retry?????

[@KaizerSozaye]

Why can’t we watch this video?

[@AJ-qs4vw]

Comeback? The game is in a much more playable state, it's not any better now after updates, you guys seem to confuse the two.

[@finejustgivemeaname]

Issue playing g video: “no stream tap to retry” Did video get taken down?

[@mangaas]

The game is still a buggy, glitchy mess, the main storyline falls apart once you get Johnny stuck in your head , and makes me hate all the characters involved, and every person giving out missions to you. And the games AI and scripting is still worse than GTA 4 from over 15 years ago. It was a $79.99 RTX demo.

[@Deltaworks23]

Yep. The scripted vehicle sequences are horrendous. I was doing the mission where you meet Takemura to speak with Oda. I parked my car in the path that Oda drives when he arrives. He just drove straight through the car like it wasn't there, flipping it up in the air. Then he parks and gets out like nothing happened. Hilarious but completely destroyed immersion. This is in v1.06, by the way. And people say this game is amazing. What a joke.

[@IR4TE]

I always see these game breaking bugs and glitches in videos but I haven't experienced any of them myself, played it close after launch in december 2020, on a mediocre PC with a GTX 1070, not the greatest performance. It ran good enough and I could finish it without any problems.

[@kiillabytez]

I once, (in my 10+ playthroughs) had characters T-Pose temporarily, but UN-posed once I looked away from them and then turned back. Other than that, I have experienced the total disdain for everyone in the game wanting V's help with some inane task.

[@ScytheNoire]

Most of the mistakes made are all at the executive management level. It's a lesson to listen to those doing the actual work. It should have never been released on old gen systems. I have a high-end PC, but it's bugs were not as bad as this video would make them out to be. It was still a very enjoyable game. Too much hype, too many promises.

[@PNWAffliction]

Agreed, it ran fine on my PC on day 1, and I was on an Rx590 at the time. It was almost universally last-gen consoles from one manufacture that were throwing the same crybaby fits they're still crying on when people refuse to release games for their console exactly for this reason. And if they'd refused to release anything on last-gen consoles 3 years ago, we'd be actually having more games right now released for current hardware...

[@black0knightcs]

I have a high end pc the bugs were in fact as bad as this video made out to be. There is a reason so much footage is out there. Its such a strawhat argument you are using. Saying I never had an issue must be your fault. When in reality millions had. And before you ask I had a 2080 and recently replayed it with a 3080. There are still bugs around. hell the T pose bug is still in this game.

[@buzzfightbeer8023]

@@black0knightcs I have 350 hours in the game on PC. I have not seen a T pose or encountered anything other than an occasional missing asset in the last year or so. I have also been playing since literally the moment the game launched. There were a lot of bugs. But I never hit a single one that broke my game. I had a single mission(gig) where my old car was supposed to be in a junkyard but it wasn't there and couldn't complete the quest. That's it. Was it badly optimized? Yes. But I thoroughly enjoyed it and still do. While it certainly was not the best experience on older consoles, the vast majority of people I have spoken to agree that the hate was blown WAAAAY out of proportion. But that's gamer culture these days: Hate on every game that was not exactly what YOU expected it to be. Bugs do suck. But as long as executives and board members care about profit over quality, that won't stop.

[@MetalGamer666]

While the game may be patched to a satisfactory state, the lies and deceptions spouted by the developers will always taint CDPR.

[@INFILTR8US]

Congrats on rolling a run that didn't experience the bugs millions of others experienced. Do you want a cookie?

[@86LukeM]

I played the game at launch. To see people start to love it is a nice feeling. I played it and beat it at its most broken.

[@lukew6725]

Don't you dare compare No Man's Sky to this game! No Man's Sky was redeemed because the developers worked their socks off to implement all of the previously promised features in the game! Cyperpunk 2077 is only liked now because it is actually functional and they released an anime! They are not the same!

[@matt2.052]

Video was clearly made just for views game got some people back and its called a come back we dont even have the big dlc coming yet I really felt yall should have waited a little bit on this one.

[@No-vq1iv]

Seems kind of disingenuous to call it a comeback just because of a sales spike... attributed exclusively to anime... game is still pretty bad.

[@psychedelicnews7413]

I have played through most of the main game play and 95% of the secondary content to the point that i have very little to discover from this point besides some surprise weapon drops. I am very satisfied with the potential of multiple end of game narratives. Now that I have seen 4 different outcomes some of which is slight variations of the dominant outcome. I was very pleased and personally annoyed at the slight change of the ending based on small choices i had made through game play. In the end i was excited to replay the ending with different logic too consume even more potential multidimensional possibilities of all of my previous choices. The fact that i could receive benefit for completing the story line and then be set back in time at the main logic branch where i could now see each possible ending and even hidden endings pretty rapidly became a precursor to several more hours of game play to explore the lore even further and see what other edge cases the developers have thought of.... it was very entertaining / engaging to have the characters taunt me about previous decisions and mistakes i had made that now made story-line even more complex. almost as if the characters were annoyed to need to take this event into account of the story. There were of course quirks that i had dealt with and dejavu moments of past experiences that were broken previously in earlier builds of the game. Although i felt manipulated by the mystery of all the nuances that i was very pleased in the end... i am even convinced that there is more to uncover.

[@forcommentpurposes]

The only channel i actually wanted to subscribe. Delivers it again.

[@RudalPL]

Now, after 2.0 patch and Phantom Libery release we could do with an addendum to this video. ;)

[@maximillianworoniecki9471]

Keep the good content flowing 👌

[@middleagedmutantninjaturtle18]

Cdpr really screwed up big time and lost its credibility. Now they wont even release the dlc for ps4. they deserve every criticism they got

[@mookiestewart3776]

fuck that ....last gen needed to be dropped thats a good thing. It needed to not be developed for last gen in the first place

[@devondre79]

@@mookiestewart3776 🤡🤡🤡

[@Z0iD_exe]

video doesn’t work

[@blumrich1970]

There was no "comeback," and there never will be. CDPR laid an egg. I have never played a less entertaining "game" than Cyberpunk 2077. It opens with literally 45 minutes of expository dialogue cutscenes, where you can do absolutely nothing but sit there, and click a few dialogue options that have no bearing on the game or story whatsoever. The fact that it STILL crashes every five minutes on high-end PCs isn't a great selling point, either.

[@ToadyEN]

This video isn’t loading for me on iOS KZbin app 😞 wonder if anyone else is having same problem. “No stream”?

[@doalwa]

Having the same problem on my iPad mini. Glad I’m not the only ☝️

[@ToadyEN]

@@doalwa it’s working for me today (after 2 days) good to worth mentioning in case it shown in their analytics 🙌

[@Ronin-on-Nitrous]

This video doesn’t load for me

[@solja2424]

Not enough comments about this 😢

[@Swordslinger-hb1ns]

Finally, I’ve been anticipating this subject for the longest time. Thank you gvmers.

[@jonbaxter2254]

I am happy the anime did well, but all I want is the original Cyberpunk from that E3 demo, which I don't think we'll ever get...

[@theanonymspysandwich]

The biggest slap in the face was them adding the E3 mission in full, while basically leaving all interactability displayed in said mission out of the rest of the game. I genuinely would like to know the thought process behind that

[@ArjunTheRageGuy]

I hope it will be leaked like the nintendo gigaleak

[@igorthelight]

@@theanonymspysandwich " I genuinely would like to know the thought process behind that" - as a person who learned game development I can tell - publisher just didn't give them enough time, so cuts were made. Why there wasn't much time? Publisher wanted to cash on last gen consoles and on Christmas sales ;-)

[@Choom2077]

Having Gabriel Amatangelo as lead director for Phantom Liberty, was a tremendous blessing. So glad to know he's also on project Orion too. The mans got so much enthusiasm to create a great experience with infectious positivity and the chops to pull it off. This was an excellent video. Everything right down to the point with no unnecessary incendiary stuff.

[@nickwalker5666]

It’s saying this isn’t working for me. Anyone else getting that?

[@Dr.Strangelewd]

I wouldn't call it a comeback, really, people just flooded into the game after watching the anime, it doesn't change the fact that the game is still riddled with bugs, doesn't have most basic open world features like driving/police AI (or any decent AI at all, for that matter), has barely any choices or RPG mechanics and is, simply put, not the game it was advertised as. And that's on PC, the platform that got any meaningful updates at all. The fact that it's making a "comeback" at all is an insult to everyone who got it day one after falling to CDPR's lies.

[@223Drone]

Yep as good as Edgerunners is it doesn't make me want to give Cyberpunk a try. It also doesn't undo the fact the the game was in such an unplayable state at launch that Sony pulled it from the PS store.

[@SNOWSOS]

I'm so glad people are giving Cyberpunk a chance I loved the game since launch the story and characters are top tier

[@franciscomira2958]

I bought this game for Xbox one day one edition when was released. Even bought the book the World of Cyberpunk and really like the concept. Installed but never played it because of the bugs and all the bad reviews. I was waiting for the patch to the next gen. Already came out few months ago. Now i think is time to finally play it and really enjoy the world of Cyberpunk 2077!

[@darkspire91]

CDPR underdelivered their product and took YEARS to even begin cleaning their mess, and people are forgiving them because they did the bare minimum and released an anime. We deserve the crapsack industry that we have.

[@jennifervalentine8955]

Exactly. Hyped a game, didn't even remotely deliver on it, and 2 years later they made if functional for most of the platforms it was released on.

[@CubiStudios]

Yeah, an incredibly undeserved come back. This game is still barely playable on half the consoles it launched on and they took full payment for.

[@nicholascowling7052]

I agree with this. Worse, I think the success of the game only proves that CDPR was justified in doing what they did. Bleh.

[@dawnbylaw]

Well as a fan of the game,from day one.I finished it for the first time when 1.3 came out. Yes the game is not what it was promised to be,probably it will never be.Yes it launched in a bad state,i was playing on pc luckily and didnt have the horrifying console experience. The one thing i have to say as of now is if you play it for what it is at least for me its a damn great game(great characters,phenomenal voice acting,absolutely sick art direction,satisfactory and fun fps combat with lots of choices as to how to approach the action,great story). I think cdpr has been punished enough and thats my personal opinion(lawsuits,pr disaster and its own stock has drop to a quarter of its highest value).So yes if you dont like it i respect that its your opinion. I know damn well im having blast in my second playthrough and there will be definately a third one when the expansion and the game of the year edition come out when its all said and done. Hopefully on a new beefy pc in order to experience it in all its glory. Have fun with whatever games you play and i wish you all the best.

[@nicholascowling7052]

@@dawnbylaw Thanks for the cordial response. Yes, PC launch seemed to be a bit better, and I agree, I have watched a few playthrough parts and the stories look interesting. (Though nothing like the pre-release videos they did.) :( I do agree they have been punished enough but sadly if not from them, we'll see more of this from other publishers. I would be interested in their next Witcher game if they make one, but would definitely wait and see what happens with it. Glad to hear you are still enjoying the game and the initial problems didn't get you too down. Cheers!

[@ArcangelGamingEntertainment]

When i play that opening sequence of the game -up to where it displays the title- I always think that they mustve built that out first..and then just didnt really know where to go, because that whole opening bit is the best part of the whole game.

[@kennethjose7159]

I’m waiting for 5 hrs and I still get “No stream”. Is this region locked? I wish Gvmers address this

[@Wizthefurbo]

It says no stream tap to retry. I can’t watch the video 😢

[@thedingleberrybush6076]

This game getting updates to improve the framework of it is the absolute LEAST everyone should be expecting from them; and any other game studio that releases something broken for that matter. Industry standards have gotten so low that any modicum of improving something is seen as a miracle and should be met with adulation and praise, no questions asked. Well, it’s been going on two years now and the game is still the same shallow lite-rpg with a dumb ai as it was when it launched. Having its bugs ironed out doesn’t change what’s under the hood or the misleading marketing promises that were pervasive in the years leading up to release.

[@mikeclarke3990]

I loved this game at release, it's just after the heist and you gain true access to the open world the game falls apart and not just technically...

[@jaredsmith4919]

I remember wanting this game, and my sister buying it for me. I listened to reviews as I played it. I actually had fun till the game crashed.

[@henzoko5946]

Dont forget to romance Panam

[@just1it1moko]

@@henzoko5946 isn't there only 1 romance per gender and sexual orientation?

[@Jonra1]

Eh, even if all the bugs and issues were fixed, that still leaves quite unsatisfying story that has an awesome start, but then ends up getting hijacked by one of the least likeable characters I've had the misfortune of having run into in video games. I like the actor, but after a certain point it felt like he was shoved in more and more just because of who he his likeness was based on. I nearly finished the game, before I went to the forums to check what others thought, only to find out about the potential and endings and just uninstalling the game on the spot. No thank you, I am not new to the genre or these kinds of worlds, but this is the first time I really had a problem with the story.

[@nomanshigh3058]

I'm pissed off about said come back. Game is still fucked beyond the point of being acceptable but everyone has decided that's OK. Great now broken games is all we'll ever get.

[@PunctualDork]

I can’t watch the video it just says “no stream.” Am I alone or is everyone seeing this?

[@Chronoir3]

They captured the lightning in the bottle with their over hype (specially from that yapping dev streaming) but the bottle broke on launch. Now every AAA games wants to avoid being in the same category of *cyberpunk 2077 launch disaster*

[@myenemysenemy1043]

I'm finally about to play this, for the first time, on PS5. I've heard nothing but good things now the game has been fixed. It's a shame CPR felt they had to release it when they did, across both generations. I don't think anybody would have really been that angry had they pushed it back as a next-gen only game.

[@Bollibompa]

People would have gone ballistic if it was a next-gen and PC only game. There was, and still is, a shortage of components which makes PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X and Graphics Cards very expensive. Too many people now, two years later, don't own a PC or next-gen console. Just look at the preorders for PS4 and Xbox One to see how wrong you are.

[@betelguse16]

They could have at least delayed the previous gen launch, that would have given them more time to fix the previous gen versions.

[@emulation2369]

It never actually came back, it's not No Man's Sky story, they still failed badly, lied to us as customers, cut tons of content... Yet still, it's a good game for what it has to offer, but not great

[@justinlast2lastharder749]

Remember when Cyberpunk was hyped as "Having No DLC, everyone gets the full game"? Funny how that works...

[@George_M_]

My problem with it was never the bugs, it was the core story. Cynical and kind of empty. I've come to appreciate it, but the endings other than Panam are all bad. Space Crimes?

[@jesusojeda7850]

The fact that this game sold so much shows once again our failure as a society. That's, quite literally, why we can't have nice things.

[@OliverMD15]

"Gaming's Biggest Redemption"?? Pretty sure that is "No Man's Sky", that or something else. EDIT: "An Amazing Redemption" Oh screw off with that backpaddling title change! EDIT2: "The Tragedy and The Comeback of Cyberpunk 2077" Make up your mind already...

[@thatguystandingbehindyou0_0]

all the cyberpunk bandwagoners are only bandwagoning because its now popular opinion to like the game. the core gameplay has barely changed since release, npc theory is real

[@daviid27.]

The comeback has not started yet.. There is a ton of stuff that needs to be done and adeed at least 4 more years of regular updates fixing the base game and adding stuff that should be there already

[@jamespaul6315]

Its pretty good as it is. You learn from being a gaming fan long term to try never to expect anything even if devs promise. Things change in development for many reasons so getting attached to certain ideas or features isnt good.

[@januszkurahenowski2860]

@@jamespaul6315 People got really attached to some minor stuff like wallrunning and some other small features. They say that everything that was cut was due to laziness or cost cutting etc when it was probably done because it didn't fit the game well and didn't add much. People were whining about the smallest stuff not being in the game. There were hundreds of items etc but they were upset that this one certain katana from the trailer wasn't there.

[@MrMozkoZrout]

@@januszkurahenowski2860 I mean wallrunning and car and home customisations are things that people talk about but that obviously isn't the big problem. You are a blatant apologist. It's not like people imagined things or only clinged on small features. They promised and actually showcased what the game is supposed to be like. It wasn't supposed to be a linear story action adventure game in an open world like GTA. It was supposed to be a simulated sandbox with many ways to play, multiple outcomes and branching storylines and tons of different endings and crazy replayability. U know kinda like it is in Witcher 3, only bigger and better. Do you remember how you pick at the beginning if you will be a corpo or nomad or whatever and that first tutorial quest ? that is the only part of the game with multiple outcomes and different ways of playing and it's only the beginning when your origin even makes a difference. This and also that quest they showcased during E3 that can be finished in multiple ways. Thing is that the whole game was supposed to be like that. Not just that but there was supposed to be a whole faction system like in Fallout and side quest depending on that and everything. Then you even have things like they promising those megabuildings with their on ecosystems and what not. It's really not the bugs or missing wallrunning that was the biggest crime about this game.

[@jase276]

@@jamespaul6315 That mindset is why gaming is in the dumps. Never settle for less. Yes, never fall for hype, but to accept garbage because you expect it only lets companies and studios get away with this. If devs lie, don't buy their product, simple as that. Y'all act like only AAA games exist. There are so many indie games that rival AAAs and have AAA quality and do EVERYTHING right and never lie. Put your money towards THAT. Reward THAT kind of behavior.

[@TheAnonymousIndividual]

@@jase276 This, I'm unbelievably sick and tired of people defending CD Projekt Red here. Cyberpunk 2077 is a bad Game, I was excited about it as early as 2015. Haven't touched it since the first week it released. 'Gamers' (cringe term) today are useless and mindless consumers who are totally ok with paying full price for sub value.

[@matthewdelaney5366]

How does this channel not have for subscribers?!

[@jackdaone6469]

Why is there “No stream” when I try and load the video?

[@shadquirk607]

So sick of people defending this game. It objectively sux, even if it ran perfectly, it's no better than Fallout 4 and can't compare even in the slightest to Red Dead 2. Claiming otherwise is just obvious trolling.