Gyroscopic Balance? Bat Bike Build Part 11

[@craigedwards7343]

The fact that you're working 5 days a week and still have time to work on the bike, edit the videos and do all the other crap associated with adulting is inspiring. Can't wait to see the finished gyro.

[@ashtreylil1]

This is what really makes it amazing.

[@oscr_zen]

maybe what he meant was that he works 5 days a week on this bike xD

[@JP-iu4vz]

Never use the word adulting

[@ashtreylil1]

@@JP-iu4vz we use the word adulting now.

[@jordanbabcock9349]

​@@JP-iu4vznever cry over something that isn't even as bad as spilt milk.

[@ProlificInvention]

This is awesome, frickin excellent solution. When I was younger I thought about having regenerative braking installed on a motorcycle used to spin up some gyroscopic wheels to keep a motorcycle standing up at traffic lights or alternatively ran off a battery for longer periods of balance. I always wondered how the actual mechanism worked, now here you are actually making it on a fantastically designed unique motorcycle. I'm here for it

[@JuanJDumeP]

Man that's an awesome idea...

[@Blakenwhyte]

Tom stanton has made a video on that exact idea, check it out :)

[@FadedLightXx]

They do make vintage styled lights that work off the bead of the tire as it spins to make it light up. If somehow you had a bearing to get it spinning when you stop it could keep the light on idk. Maybe one way bearing

[@YHWH711]

Grind hard plumbing KZbin channel making a custom bike on 40s

[@custombikesandtrikes4374]

There absolutely has to be no slop in that steering set up, any slop no matter how tiny will cause a delay in responsiveness. I learned that lesson many years ago with a crash. I don't know what you have for a steering ratio between those two sprockets but that might need tweaking? Another issue which you may not be able to do anything about is the width of your handlebars. I know you have limited space inside of your cab but the wider those bars are the easier your steering control will be. Good job on tackling the rake and trail problem 👍

[@The-Carpenter88]

It’s like watching iron man make his first suit

[@N1GhT0FtHeW0Lf]

Are you that easily impressed?

[@MUSHIN_888]

This is impressive you’re just too dumb to comprehend how sick this is

[@natsui5]

Him and the other guy need to race

[@nothere1734]

​@N1GhT0FtHeW0Lf dude it's the akira bike, hell fuckin yeah

[@natsui5]

@@nothere1734 more like a batman bike but ok

[@Paulman50]

Bloody ripper to see more Kiwi home engineering on utube. Love your videos.

[@TheBrewjo]

Seeing as work lets you tackle personal projects, I'd say get those brake drums on the lathe- clean the surfaces up and get them both to the same mass. They're probably only a few grams difference now but when they're spun up in a system together that could work out to a major force imbalance.

[@LabiaLicker]

This. The primary balance of the gyroscope needs to be spot on.

[@ericlotze7724]

There was some vaporware company making a Two Wheeled Enclosed Vehicle with a Gyro (instead of the landing legs, or training wheels as someone i knew called em upon me showing them a video lol) Glad to see someone actually go about making one! You earned yourself another subscriber, I’m excited to see how this turns out!

[@chrisJordan-xb9wc]

same company as the one that had the little fold down training wheels actually, they made the second version with gyroscopes

[@matus1976]

Probably thinking of LitMotors. Not quite vaporware but not much better. They've gotten millions in funding and produced nothing after 10+ years. Being all electric, those gyros suck a tremendous amount of juice.

[@vilefly]

@@matus1976 Didn't the guy use the gyros for regeneration as well? Anyways, I think DOT has a thing against enclosed motorcycles. No company has ever succeeded in marketing one in the U.S., ever. Every company I have seen has hit this wall.

[@pokechopachunky2905]

It was cool to learn about the gyroscope. I always thought those were used to see if the girl you met at McDonald's was a succubus, sent to drain your life-force, or just a nice girl. The bike is awesome!!

[@Mindset.Cinematics]

@@justicesicklesright? Like what

[@moldvox]

I don't know, maybe it's a Southpark reference.

[@MUSHIN_888]

Should we send help?

[@granitecolorado]

I had a run in with a succubus on the east coast and she nearly grabbed my life force. But I used the Absalon factor and escaped her. She got me with her cabbage patch kid and my little pony and troll doll collection. And always whispering sweet little nothings about her original atari 2600 and pitfall. STAY AWAY FROM THE SUCCUBUS!!

[@conanscanlan]

I was impressed before you decided to build your own gyro. Keep at it! I love to see you problem solve. Loving it from Alabama, USA.

[@ethanmonat]

Randomly recommended this video, pretty cool! As far as the idea for using gyroscopes to help keep your bike upright, you may want to read about the Brennan Monorail, a design from the early 1900s which used gyroscopes to stay upright. You'll need to be able to introduce some control into the gyros' rotation outside of the influence of gyroscopic precession, or your gyros won't just stop you from falling over, they'll stop you from leaning over when turning.

[@pierrew1532]

Crazy build !! All this makes me think one thing : 2 wheels vehicules where driver can't lean sideways might actualy have the directional wheel at the rear instead of at the front... In addition of not creating centrifugal counter effect, it would probably be very enjoyable to ride, with an important drift sensation...!

[@selwynellison8504]

Man that's some awesome stuff your making. Doesn't hurt working in a machine shop but the parts you make at home blow me away

[@42Oregon]

You absolute legend, mate! I recently saw the gyro video mentioned and prayed to the gods of motorsport for a Hero to arrive.

[@manuelaguirre6138]

I just saw this, but to me this is not a "Bat bike" for me this is the real life Extreme G bikes, or the moto terminator, that is completely amazing, Keep it up buddy, awesome build

[@AsthmaQueen]

this reminds me alot of the lit motors C-1 from over a decade ago, I was excited to see their design being tested and looking like it was going to be real then nothing ended up coming out. Following for what comes in future from yours!

[@mrmurdock6994]

MAN this is just like an ExtremeG motorcycle! This is really cool! You need to get this painted ASAP. I'm looking forward to see the end product. Once you get this done you could look into the other models.

[@JOHNDENVER4848]

That's Super Cool that you are listening to the Comments and actually attempting to throw the Gyro in the Mix!!!!Keep up the Great Work Bro!!!!!

[@larryhill6989]

I love the way you tell us everything, positive or negative and include the decisions for the changes. Keep going!❤

[@naisbyw3276]

That gyro is looking so good Dan! Amazing how much work you get done in your free time, do you ever stop? Keep up the good work

[@ProffesorFarnsworth]

This is really cool! The gyroscope seems like it will need a complex control scheme for it to work properly. The balance angle is only 0 degrees at low speeds. At high speeds you need to lean and you don't want that gyro to fight it.

[@Variety_Pack]

I was literally typing out a comment to point out Brennan's gyro train when you mentioned it on-screen. This will be super cool! Git 'er done!!

[@danclement8858]

Great to see the adaptation throughout the process, and courage to push forward on something outside of your comfort zone! I can't wait to see this thing rip!

[@teekay979]

YOUR A STRAIGHT BEAST MY FRIEND !!! Please continue this project to the end !!! SUCH A GENUIS !!!

[@kaizer2k2]

reminds me of the Tron bike from the 1982 film, amazing job!!!

[@iDoPew]

that gyroscope mech reminds me a lot of that single track train!

[@adamisaacks7237]

Same here

[@GeomancerHT]

Yeah, it's mentioned on the video, how about watching it all before commenting obvious stuff?

[@iDoPew]

@@GeomancerHT I am very sorry officer. It was late when I stumbled over the video... I had to skip through here and there.

[@stefensmith9522]

Hey remember that mono rail train, it reminds me of that!

[@iDoPew]

@@stefensmith9522 iiii member!

[@Toots_McPoopins]

This is fascinating and every video shows more creativity. Can't wait to see how well the gyro works.

[@Chris-oj7ro]

Wow the timing of this is so perfectly in line with my current interests that it's as if this is divine inspiration! Great work! Never stop being Awesome!

[@rickyambrose9155]

Just brilliant mate... I think it would be a good idea to set mechanical limits to your gears to that they don't turn too much as it happened in 13:51

[@williamlanphar630]

I love your tenacity. The gyroscope is a great idea. On anxious to see it completed.

[@budzbuddy1]

after your last video i was thinking Gyroscopic balance is gonna be the only way ,, feel like i shoulda commented then. good vids man keep em coming.

[@XOF2]

bro, keep going!! i hope u are able to live off of youtube, you have such good ideas

[@matthewgoodman434]

I've been sketching designs for a feet-forward motorcycle with fully enclosed cab to use in a videogame, but I didn't know that one actually existed! this is very cool, and shockingly similar to my sketches

[@L0C00L]

Awesome channel mate. Sing out if you ever need an extra pair of hands on any projects. Tonnes of fun still to be had here!

[@iRocks-Mak3rde]

awesome project ! whats the title of the music @10:37 ? !

[@ExtraMedium665]

Shazam is popping up with "mis visos, fixon" but doesn't sound quite right

[@kevincarlson3386]

When I was a kid, we would rent 3 wheel trikes on the beach called Fun Cycles that used pivot steering where the front wheel and most of the weight pivots the direction you want to turn instead of using handlebars and the rear wheels stay flat on the ground. I feel like allowing the main body to pivot inwards into the direction you're turning would provide added stability. Sort of like how you steer on a bicycle when you're riding with no hands.

[@redbandsswanndri]

Awesome work,the gyroscope design is next level!! I watched that monorail train just recently too

[@wierd.ole.monkey]

Looks awesome! You should take a look at LEADING LINK SUSPENSION. A 1966 Honda CT90 k0 has LEADING LINK SUSPENSION that is what you're headed for...

[@CaptainSlug]

Ecomobile enclosed motorcycles just use a central counterweight system with dampers to lower the center of gravity, and to act as a center of mass shifting system for controlling lean both in and out of turning. Something similar could be done though it may require an active motor-driven closed-loop control if you don't want to spend many years trying to find the best ratio of mass-shifting to control inputs at a variety of speeds.

[@RUDHUNTER]

That's awesome."Extreme G" series almost seems like to become real.😯

[@tylermckinney2041]

The video you referenced was really interesting. Im going to watch the next part of the build. Cheers!

[@duck-in-space-engineers]

You should absolutely tack a chain tensioner on there, as that will constantly preload the chain and remove slop even as chain wear occurs (which may happen if regular maintenance isn't done)

[@magicphilip6880]

Man i wish i was smart enough to fully grasp the concepts of what youre doing, this is really cool

[@buildingwithlogan]

As a mechanical engineer in training: The motor is not designed to have that amount of side load from the gyro disk. If that motor shaft bends when its spinning at high speed it could be catastrophic. I recommend mounting the disks to larger axles and have bearings that take the side-load from the gyro forces. Then use something like a belt and pulley from the motor to the disk.

[@janimusicshorts7707]

finally getting the views this project deservers. nicely done.

[@nickpellegrin]

I actually watched that mono rail train vid 2 mths ago,very intresting and worked well. Keep up the great work DK

[@repaircollc]

Can't wait to see how this goes. I saw that train video when it came out and thought it would be so cool to see that in action. This whole build is just beyond cool already, awsome work!

[@sobashamrit5644]

that scary movie reference got me rolling 3:00

[@Dandy_Atheist]

Have you heard of the gyroscopic train? Its a platform that balances on one rail even when it's not moving. It's self correcting on turns with no overcorrection. It was invented a hundred years ago, but not put into mass production because the size of the gyros was said to be impractical.

[@fletcherjacobs3688]

I’m so happy you took my suggestion. This is epic!!!!!

[@Ben-Dixey]

Brilliant video, it looked like it was doing ok with more speed. The gyro will be very interesting though. Something I was told recently was the clock you called a DTI (dial test indicator) is just a dial gauge, a dial test indicator doesn't have a plunger it has an arm. I had been calling it the wrong thing for years until some smart ass corrected me. 😉😉

[@DktheWelder]

The dti is the lever one right and the normal one is just called a dial gauge I think. Yeah I have heard of that before haha !

[@Ben-Dixey]

@@DktheWelder Yeah that's right, bit trivial really. The gyro that kept a train upright was unbelievable, would have never thought that was possible. Have you done any calculations on what mass and velocity would be required for your bike gyro or is the plan to just try it ?

[@DktheWelder]

@@Ben-Dixey I did like a quick ratio calculation but really just having a go working with what I got 👍

[@Ben-Dixey]

@@DktheWelder No harm at all in doing the trial and error method. You learn more in my opinion. Most of the stuff you build works anyway. 👍

[@l33tyeet]

I always dreamed of a bike like this existing. Thank you for your creativity and making dreams come true!

[@kiwi_welltraveled4375]

Your imagination and engineering skills are only surpassed by your videography and editing skills I do really enjoy you vids Keep up the excellent work 😀👍🏼 Be Kind

[@jesperwall839]

I just love this channel! The content, the humor 😂 It’s just fantastic! 👍😀

[@goldenio]

I am glad that you saw my tag and will pay attention to the blogger who is engaged in gyro stabilization

[@CanadianMason85]

Maybe skid rollers would help stop the skid plates pulling you to the ground when they drag. An inrush capacitor might help w the gyro motors spinning up faster

[@matthewjackson9092]

You'll get there with your project mate I quite enjoy watching your videos I haven't watched too many but I intend to stay safe and have fun

[@ronme68]

There was a guy in the early 1990 I think he was in Portland Oregon U.S.A. he built gyro-stabilized two wheeled vehicle out of a Honda 400A it was on the cover of a motorcycle magazine. I think they called it The Road Hawk. After they where done with it they put the bike back together and my little brother bought it.

[@craigarmstrong5291]

Like the gears between the two motors / mounts fantastic great work 👍 looking forward to seeing 👀 bike 🏍 going at speed and slowly 🐌 down a long winding road proper Batman 😀

[@deanedeane4318]

Awsum progress !!! I'd been thinking about the leading Link front end on the speedway sidechair after your last video......and about the gyro I wandered if you planned to balance the drums ! Keep up your Awsum project 😉😎

[@willbrasil4885]

Yes, my friend, show your work

[@Rebar77_real]

You know how far to extend the frame if you're still thinking of under/in front of the engine. Those drums are pretty huge though. Maybe if they work too good downsizing to smaller lead wheels will fit easier. Cool.

[@TheoriginalIlleven11]

The bike will be awesome with the gyroscope though. I like the design you got going.

[@TheJimtanker]

Great, my day is shot. Now I have to watch 1-10 of this playlist.

[@jlfilip]

you making that gyroscope actually made me subscribe, that thing looks complicated!!!

[@Timbodacious]

very nice. there are a few 2 wheeled cars out there that are like from the 50's? that use the gyro to keep the vehicle stable. you might end up having to add 12 inches of length to your build and having the gyro sit low under your legs or something.

[@MahdKxng]

Gyro sounds great. Have you considered two mini tires on each side. Slanted like a “A” to hold balance instead of the sled feet.

[@_spartan11796]

You got a cool bike and an even cooler place to ride it!

[@kingmarz3635]

That Battie going to be really fast Can’t wait for next episode

[@reinkarnatsioon]

An idea, you can make a power steering system, basically when you add couple of pully acting sprockets for the chain in the steering system, should work well

[@bloodmonk61]

Can't wait to see how that gyro works out, subscribed.

[@jamesg3713]

loving the videos brother, im stickin around to watch ya pass 500k subs. keep her goin mate!!!!

[@mhb41]

Only just found your channel and this is some awesome stuff! You’ve earned yourself a keen subscriber!

[@josiahct]

I tell you what it's not often I subscribe off the first video I see from someone but that thing looks sick!

[@boots3372]

Just got recommended this channel (and this video) and great stuff.

[@ziadconnolly057]

Aside from stability improvements made , the front fork shifting looks like it has the rear wheel pushing the weight against the upper front wheel and then throwing you the opposite direction. If you a have rounder corners on or possibly thinner front tire and attach some solid stable and small wheels a little farther in front of the sled mounts, around 30 cm angled out at 12° to contact the ground help?

[@mikejankowiak5434]

Hi, you should try active back wheel balancing, like how Yamahas concept self balancing bike does

[@yurttgjk]

I saw a week ago something similar in the one-rail gyroscopic train video, i think it might be useful for your project.

[@Rameus]

You need to have the gyroscopes located in the bikes center of gravity or some where close. If you want to see how to possibly do it, look up those new radio controlled motor cycles. They use gyroscopes to balance it

[@murraymadness4674]

Hmm, I've wanted to build a gyro stabilized "trimaran" so it doesn't keep either side ama's in the water, because that slows the boat down very significantly. In a vehicle with wheels however, not much at all. so add a third wheel is so much simpler. Regarding your steering chain, ditch the chain and use some gears. A chain works great when it only goes in one direction. Looking forward to see how the gyro works.

[@gowdsake7103]

Stays upright and utterly uncontrollable

[@Void_box-1]

I love this build! good luck with it

[@DktheWelder]

Thankyou ! I hope I can get it to work

[@joshuameldru4004]

I’m very interested in your gyroscope build, truly awesome and very curious to see how your bike performs with it installed Very cool project

[@HandymanMark]

Daredevil and a mad scientist keep up the good work. Can't wait to see what you do next

[@watahyahknow]

if the plastic gears dont work maibe you can use parts of a flexplate and the starter gear ring if the circumference of the flexplate is too large you might be able to just use the starter ring and heat/ bend it into the right circle interesting way of building the gyro , had seen the same video about that single track train and was thinking on how to scale it down , looks like you managed it just fine do remember that the gyro in the train gotten changed a little as it started to oxcilate in certain situations they added an airpiston system backed up by a pendulum to push against the gyroscopic force to help it straighten up if it was to oxilate side to side

[@MUSHIN_888]

Bro ur actually inspiring one day I wanna be able to build stuff like u do

[@daverudolph7777]

That gyro setup is looking class

[@MarcDunivan]

It would use less energy just to have retractable outrigger stabilization wheels, like the Peraves MonoRacer. Once the vehicle is going fast enough those big tires will balance the vehicle. Remote control motorcycles like the X-Rider Scorpio don't use retractable outrigger wheels, but they also don't use control moment gyroscopes ( outside the wheels ).

[@Teejayx4]

Can’t wait for the next video! Awesome work man

[@halbarker9176]

Haha, “…this thick, cause it’s lying around”. Such a cool project!

[@David-w7z3s]

Starter motor solenoid may not be engaging properly with the weight of the rotor pressing down on it. Try welding the solenoid so it is always engaged. Also starter motors have plenty of torque you should gear it to get the rotor spinning faster.

[@thedarkknight1971]

You MAY have heard/seen, but there IS a 'Self balancing' 2 seater CAR with ONLY two wheels using a MASSIVE giro - 1967 'Gyro-X' (plenty of vids on this peculiar beast!) 🤔👍 😎🇬🇧

[@RageAgainstTheMachine.]

New Zealand: dude luv yur content man and the humour just about made me shit my pants from laughing to much and I'm old yeah must be old age thing😬and all the crack-up funny clips at the end had me pushing the sub-hell yeah brother. i don't get in my work shop much these daze😂and yeah i luv watching you young fellas creating awesome builds, cheers man

[@jamest.5001]

You vould use a couple truck flywheels on a shaft running under the engine! Have them spinning each side tightt up against the body! With a cover hibing anout 3mm clearance on all sides! The easiest fix would be roller blades,! On linear actuators coming out from each side st a 45°-70°angle! I dont think 150 watts is enough! Definitely 350-500 watts should do it , if nothing else is available a adult size bicycle tire and rim with the tire filled with cement use lead to balance either on a spoke or drill holes in the cement and pour itbin liquid! A 24" bike rim should hold it steady,

[@sgtmudflaps7942]

was so excited to see the update. keep it coming

[@GlaGlaGlaTRIP]

I LOVE this machine! What a BEAST :-) Nice job!

[@MsJon52]

another enjoyable and educational vid, lol, large boats in the luxury realm, have Giros fitted to stop the roll of the vessel or should I say dampen it, anyhooz, you are definitely getting there with the batcycle, at one point in the vid I was sure you were going straight and upright but my ruddy PC was freezeframing, any good with computers? lol

[@tube-life]

I'm pretty sure you'll need to be able to move the new gyros to aid steering. Also If you look at RC bikes they steer by moving the front wheel off centre the opposite way to where you're steering and have low centre gyros, hope that makes sense!

[@DktheWelder]

Yes I think I will have to move them , yes what you said makes sense it will be a lot of trail and error to get it work

[@jamest.5001]

Mount the gyroscopes on the same axel as the rims of the vehicle! With a hub motor spinning it this would be awesome! So would swapping to two front rims!

[@thebread9378]

Maybe you would like this idea, but what would happen if you add a wheight on the bottom of the bike to conpensate the stearing. Maybe it keeps the bike up with the gyro mod?

[@ballbby3775]

Hey your surrounded by a cage of metal bars, a helmet is definitely needed. I had a black an very little red 90's Kawasaki Ninja 500 it had duel exhaust and I kept em factory cause it sounded so cool. Man I'd love to have another one same size maybe a little newer tho. I was happy with the speed of it, but i also had a black helmet I always wore, this thing with those metals bars one good thump can change ur life forever. Please wear a helmet ur getting to the speed that a wreck could really mess ya up. I say this with love, i don't wanna see u get hurt.