H & M Power Controllers - Old & New, A Good Review

[@idonotlikeboats9328]

I’ve had two of the three controllers shown here (2000 and the train set one) and I think it’ll be interesting to see the new one hornby are making. Thanks for making this always nice to see the trains running Bye.

[@Jimyjames73]

Ok cool - Yes it is good to see the Loco's running - thanks you for watching:)

[@Jaykeh41]

@@Jimyjames73 the older controller was used on my dads dads family model railway he is quite favored towards it :)

[@Jimyjames73]

@@Jaykeh41 Ok Fair enough 🙂🚂🚂🚂

[@jamesgibbs7096]

Well done, JJ. The text particularly useful. Also the speed differences when you switch the H&M from High Res to Low Res. I am thinking of installing an On/Off LED light on mine. Thanks from Jimbopuff

[@Jimyjames73]

Thank you & your Welcome :)

[@chrizandriroth7695]

Hi there Jimyjames! Don't know if you can remember me. A search has yet again brought me to your channel. Someone sponsored some things for my layout I am busy constructing and I still use the new cheap noisy controllers from Hornby... but now someone has sent me an old H and M Duette and searching for some information about it has yet again brought me to your channel :)

[@Jimyjames73]

Oh yes I remember you (only b/c of your photo) - Good - Glad to hear your search has brought you back to my Channel!!! 🙂 Arr yes the H & M Duette - a good choice - you can really control the speed of the Loco with the 'Wave' & the 'Resistance' switches!!! Also the holes on the side are for to power things like Lights, Points, etc!!!

[@chrizandriroth7695]

@@Jimyjames73 About 3 months ago I bought they Flying Scotsman and GWR sets and while I waited for them to arrive I watched your videos. You showed the little GWR Pannier Tanker. Yes the H&M Duette is brilliant. Thank you and greetings from Namibia!

[@Jimyjames73]

@@chrizandriroth7695 Sweet & thank you for your greetings & watching my vids - Glad you enjoy them!!! Model Railing can be a great hobby to get into but also can be expensive!!! In time you will build up your fleet of locos - just like I have!!! 🙂🚂🚂🚂

[@paulfraser3385]

@@Jimyjames73 aren't the sockets on the side of duette to link other controllers to unit?

[@Jimyjames73]

@@paulfraser3385 Could be - amongst other things like points & lights!!! - Thanks for watching 🤔🚂🚂🚂

[@mylesthomasandfriends838]

Excuse me, how can I plug in the HM 2000 Power Controller? I am trying to find out how to plug it in.

[@Jimyjames73]

The HM 2000 comes with wires, a mains Lead which plugs in at the back under the On / Off switch (you can see @ 6:13) & then it comes with 2 set of smaller wires which plugs in at the back - use either controlled 1 or 2 (see on my video @ 6:03 do the reverse) then you will need a Power Track R8206 From Hornby.com £11.99 - Then you will see it has 2 little button on it - press the left button & insert 1 wire, then do the same for the right button - hope that helps 😉🚂🚂🚂

[@robinforrest7680]

I too have both. The HM2000 isn't a patch on the Duette. I must get around to selling my HM2000, there's no comparison whether in terms of build quality or control finesse with the Duette.

[@Jimyjames73]

I don't think I did say that the HM2000 is a patch on the Duette - I just think that the Duette is a better controller b/c you can control the speed better with the 'Wave' & 'Resistance' switches!!! Thank you for watching :)

[@robinforrest7680]

@@Jimyjames73 Of course. Just my opinion. I was very disappointed with mine. I had imagined it would be similar performance wise to my Duette just in a more modern package. At the time it cost me £56 which was quite a lot of money (around 1999/2000) from what I can see they're well over £100 today. I see a few second hand Duettes on Ebay for about £50. If I was looking for another "new" controller today I'd get another Duette - which is what I did about 10yrs ago when my Gaugemaster gave up on me. I've hardly ever used the HM2000 since I bought it, it's still in all its original packaging complete with purchase receipt! Maybe it works better with more modern locomotives than my ancient collection of Triang-Hornby, Hornby Dublo, Lima, Airfix and Mainline stuff.

[@Jimyjames73]

@@robinforrest7680 Well I got mine with the 'East Linc Special' Train set (R1244) which is in the Signature Range!!! Yes it is exspensive - £116.99 - I also gave it a 'Customer Review' about it on it's page!!! The only thing I didn't like about (don't do this) you can suddenly change direction without stopping which can cause damage to the Loco!!! :(

[@Alexander_Sth]

Hallo, what is the minimal voltage for the start could provide those controllers in half wave and high resistans mode for start?

[@Jimyjames73]

Sorry I have no clue - try Google!!! 😉🚂🚂🚂

[@Alexander_Sth]

@@Jimyjames73 do you really believe in Google in that thing? Even if fabrics do not telling the real data? Actully they use trick - 0...14. But 0 is not starting point. Only one fabric used to write true - 1.5-14V, it was Titan, but late versions only. Do you have multimeter?

[@Jimyjames73]

@@Alexander_Sth Oh ok - not sure if I 'believe in Google' - haven't really thought about it t. b. h. Did think about a multimeter, might have 1 somewhere, but not too sure about how to use it thou... 🤔🚂🚂🚂

[@Alexander_Sth]

@@Jimyjames73 for sure nice joke, but you are so experienced modeller that I believe you could teach how to do it many other coleagues... I would be very happy if you measure it.

[@stephensonsdynamometer6747]

​@@Alexander_SthHello Alex. To clarify, you want the minimum voltage across the terminals, with nothing connected, at half wave?

[@cactusgreen]

12v dc on the right, 16v ac left that's why the differing orientations.

[@Jimyjames73]

Oh right - I didn't know that - I do now -Thank & thank you for watching 🙂🚂🚂🚂

[@cactusgreen]

@@Jimyjames73 love these old analogue controllers lol there's a clue on the front panel if you look. 😄

[@Jimyjames73]

@@cactusgreen Oh yes - I see that now - Thank you 🙂🚂🚂🚂

[@TheSaint491]

Is the duette a feedback controller? I can’t use coreless motor models with feedback controllers

[@Jimyjames73]

No the Duette is not a "feedback" controller as its design is very old and is not an all electronic circuit design. Measuring feedback from the loco motor would need a sophisticated electronic circuit. Old controllers like the Duette are not sophisticated in their design.

[@stuartsmith9199]

Best way to damage locomotive gears by switching direction without first stopping loco.

[@Jimyjames73]

Thank you for that - I wasn't sure about that at the time of making the vid back in 2019 - but I now know that - thanks for watching 🙂🚂🚂🚂

[@paulfraser3385]

The newer silver controller is only good for one place. The bin.

[@davidstorm8879]

LIKE WATCHING PAINT DRY

[@Jimyjames73]

No not at all

[@MaboPete]

Yet you watched it. We're not all au fait with things, and showcases like this help others just starting off with this 'hobby' make more 'informed' choices.