H&R Rear Sway Bar Test Drive...On a MK7 GTI

[@steffydog]

Noticeably notice, quality

[@fastln_freddy8265]

Thanks for the video. I was waiting to hear whether it was a noticeable upgrade as I live in NJ and like to take turns fast.😏

[@fartman10284]

Herk718 F yes, it a great upgrade, but can get a little skittish in the rear on Nj crappy roads

[@fartman10284]

Teflon impregnated bushings stayed squeak free in over 150,000 miles on my old B6 passat

[@stevebbkny2394]

Tan N Teflon exists in 95% of Americans..thank u DuPont

[@frankp500]

Thx Paul for another fine video! Another part to buy. Can't wait!

[@fredygump5578]

Downsides to heavy sway bars: 1) SNAP OVERSTEER, 2) reduces independence of tires, making suspension less able to keep tires on the ground. Minimizing body roll is only only necessary for high down force race cars. On these cars, maintaining an exact ground clearance is critical to the aerodynamics. If the car rolls in a corner, they lose down force...and slide off the track. Obviously this is not ideal. But they are controlling ride height with springs and custom suspension geometry, not huge sway bars! On a street car, you want stiffer springs with custom valved shocks. Stock valving on coilovers is often unnecessarily harsh, forcing the car onto the bump stops (down-jacking) which causes jarring...and hurts performance. But granted almost nobody drives on the limit...and these problems matter when you are approaching the limit of grip.

[@Minhlacey]

fredy gump I agreed. Stiffer springs are better for that

[@TheWatchman1893]

So an ideal setup is a better setup rear end via coilovers rather than sway bars ? My Polo GTI has no rear sway bar and uses thet XDS system to try emulate an LSD, i had thought about adding a rear sway and turning the system off, Over here in the Uk the cars Under steer by defult and a rear sway bar would give better turn in would it not ?

[@RobertLeBlancPhoto]

I upgraded my RSB on my current car and last 2 cars simply to reduce under steer. Simple as that.

[@sszhao11]

True, flatter doesn't equal to faster

[@lifeistooshortletitgo9574]

U literally have zero clue what you are talking about.

[@migueltorres79]

Thanks for your video man. I just installed an h&r 25mm swaybar on my mk4 gti

[@GenericMr]

Does changing the sway bar impact DCC in the newer models?

[@InCountry6970]

I am always amazed that these behind the wheel driving videos, the driver can never explain without taking their hands off the steering wheel. Show you're a good driver, with hands on the wheel and just talk to us.

[@flashsssky]

can you please do a back-up camera installation video!!!

[@WhenzLunch]

fuck yea, my Neuspeed rear sway helps me so much when I do canyon runs...👍

[@blackcatsarenopussies]

Is it working with a DCC GTI with performance pack?

[@gregoryschwarz2730]

Whoooooo NJ!

[@junglisticsound78]

Awesome info. Thanks. So will you be doing a front sway bar DIY video for us ?

[@hungrymynd5673]

Most "experts" recommend upgrading rear sway bar only

[@lumberjackzac]

I'm starting to hear about electric assist turbo charger systems and electric assist superchargers. works in conjunction with exhaust gas and 48v battery to eliminate lag. Do you think you could get your hands on them for VW or Audi yet?

[@D7mo0o0on]

do rear sway bar make the ride uncomfortable ?

[@bucknut2000]

it shouldnt, just flatter and a little more neutral,

[@christopherhernandez3498]

I know what I'm getting next now.

[@tredfxman]

Your Swaying towards a (chocolate) bar..? 😄

[@tiz988]

so do you recommend the change you made ?? thank you

[@VB-bb8vw]

Hi, any tips for DCC equipped Golf GTI mk7.5? What is the OE size of the rear sway bar and does it really make sense to upgrade in that case, or there is just a higher risk of messing up the OE setup, or negligible advantage unless going for very thick bars? Thanks!

[@Jettrap505]

Coilovers may be my next thing but for now I have sway bar upgrad ajudtable 23rear 26 front

[@joseph-ow1hf]

From what I understand, making the rear suspension on an FWD car can mitigate oversteer. Which sounds great, but I worry about introducing 'lift off' oversteer. Any thoughts? Thanks.

[@sometimesvincegilligansome5802]

I’m not sure if the rear sway bar would increase or reduce lift off oversteer, or if it even matters. Ibe made my mk6 gti oversteer a couple times though lol

[@joseph-ow1hf]

@@sometimesvincegilligansome5802 Actually from what I've seen (thinking specifically of videos with Chris Harris) lift off oversteer on a track is the way to get a FWD to rotate. So it's actually a good thing. My real concern would more properly called 'snap' oversteer, the rear kicking out unexpectedly on the street. But I suppose not trying to drive at the limit, like a sane person would negate that worry.😊 BTW: liftoff oversteer can happen on RWD cars as well.

[@oskjan1]

Yes, a stiffer rear sway bar will shift the balance towards oversteer. You get a more responsive car but sacrifice stability/safety. If you are an experienced driver then no problem, but there's a reason VW didn't do it like that from factory.

[@MrLakerboy824]

I would imagine putting a upgrade sway bar on a mk5 gli would be a plus?

[@Deutscheautoparts]

YUP

[@Joe-eg7ml]

@Deutscheautoparts Is the HR 24mm nonadjustable rear sway bar for street of track application. Im lowered about 1.2inches on coilovers.

[@sinoperture]

I did these on my old TTS front and rear. They help - but honestly the best mod is to ditch a FWD car and get RWD one. The flatness that you talk about is a bit of a misnomer - it will change the grip levels on a smooth surface but the risk on the street and rough roads is wheel lift and less grip. These are added to help dial out under steer. And the only way to really do that is to lose the FWD car.

[@lifeistooshortletitgo9574]

I wish anyone commenting had a clue. If you can't control the push on a FWD car maybe you just need to slow down, Sway bars are a great add.

[@tyranelewis7763]

on MK 7/7.5 rear sway bar install / upgrade is it best to have a load or unloaded when tightening /torquing ?

[@OgGtik]

You got 26mm or the 28mm?

[@ejendres]

The red grill stripe delete, is that just vinyl?

[@TheWatchman1893]

In effect with a good size rear Sway bar does it not make XDS+ redundant ? the effect of getting a flat rear and better turn in with less under steer using updated rear bar is in effect doing what XDS is trying to do?

[@sheldonm3535]

Do you think the best rear sway bar for the MK7 GTi is the 034 Motorsport one with 034 spherical end links?

[@RobertLeBlancPhoto]

Not much of a test drive to test a RSB upgrade. Fail.

[@gavinhimebauch2054]

Never heard of that referred to as a jug handle 😂😂😂

[@TheNok610]

You know he's from Jersey when they call it a jug handle turn.

[@renetobias]

Hey Paul, do you have any shaking from the windows or from the seatbelt location on the side panel? I'm tying to figure out if it's just my mk7 or normal...

[@VkXander1]

does it fit mk7 golf wagon?

[@ChrisPozzi]

Does this work for 8p Audi?

[@chazfool408]

is it smarter to have a sway bar in front and back? and if I can only have one, which one would be more beneficial?

[@fredwells7403]

Rear definitely

[@Rwecosher]

Why not both ends? I'm considering doing the roll bars instead of springs & dampers. I like the ride height and for UK roads, the springs are about right but it rolls like a bastard through the twisties

[@thedude4795]

Because FWD cars are prone to understeer, and since he beefed up the rear ARB, it's now slightly less peone to that. A thicker front ARB is useful if more understeer was desired.

[@kellywillis7108]

I wonder if you spend money on any bar would it be a strut bar or rear sway bar?

[@brianii5809]

A thicker rear swaybar will increase oversteer. Stiffening the front will increase understeer.

[@Norcal1990]

Only improve in turning?

[@damiendegrasse]

Yes, mid-corner once springs have settledd the ARB is doing its job.

[@coleboy96]

I recently installed bc racing coilovers on my car. Got the car aligned and everything but since install the front end when going over bumps and slow speeds it sounds like my front end is going to fall apart. Kinda like blown struts. Any idea what this could be?

[@KevinBaird75]

Cole Gagnon I've been told this is normal if you have a race setup. Is it like a bunch of knocking? This may be a solution for us with coilovers. store.034motorsport.com/strut-mount-street-density-mkvii-volkswagen-golf-gti-r-8v-8s-audi-a3-s3-tt-tts-mqb.html

[@KevinBaird75]

I have camber plates as well so I'm unsure if that part will work with the coilovers + camber plates

[@Deutscheautoparts]

You cant use strut mounts and camber plates

[@fredygump5578]

If it is like blown struts...then you are talking about hitting bump stops? I hear this is normal for coilovers, due to the valving. Try searching for "suspension truth" for videos about shock performance, springs, valving, etc. Depending on what you bought, you might be able to get your shocks custom tuned by someone who knows how to make suspension work right.

[@theman6785]

For racing sway anti roll bars are great. However, for street driving with potholes, bad roads etc., they are not the best rattle vehicle etc? Your thoughts overall?

[@brianii5809]

A rear sway bar will allow you to add oversteer without stiffening the rear suspension (with higher spring rates). So, no

[@cyrusjones8326]

Why are you upgrading just the rear swaybar, why not front and rear? I have a MkVII as a daily driver and I want to make it handle better. Should I do both sway bars or just the rear?

[@DonsShed]

Just the Rear Sway Bar is an easy install and most DIY'ers can do it themselves at home...... the Front Sway Bar is a lot harder as you need to drop the Front Sub-Frame in the vehicle to get to the Sway Bar and replace it.

[@brianii5809]

Leave the front end alone. Stiffening the rear swaybar adds oversteer and makes the car more balanced

[@busbqbill449]

Bil Steeeeeeeen! LOL

[@88conquesttsi]

An opinion video.

[@BB_Rhombus]

affordable my ass

[@HannahsGarage]

Everything's relative; compared to $1,500 coilovers, a rear sway bar is very affordable for most people

[@KnuckleCuts]

stop being a cheap ass

[@BB_Rhombus]

bruh almost 300 for a rear sway bar is ridonkulous!

[@bmuns6445]

Do you recommend the H&R over the 034 Motorsport beefier rear sway bar? The 034 has the ports to add grease.