Why Europe Hates Tourists Now

[@e0o9kii]

If tourists stop coming to 🇪🇸 Spain, who will the pickpocketers pickpocket from?

[@gawkthimm6030]

also it would ruin the economy

[@Symud]

idk bro the skibidi toilet gyats

[@ara1352]

😆true..

[@gawkthimm6030]

@@percy.garou1001 no time for culture if no economy.

[@kindabanana]

How much pock would a pic pock pock, if a pick pock could pick pock?

[@monkeeee]

I’M DOING MY PART (I can’t afford to travel)

[@UltraType_u4d]

hey wages are rising so maybe in 2030 even you can afford to travel

[@serphystus]

We love you then ❤🇪🇸

[@ava-he9li]

Thanks

[@ava-he9li]

@@UltraType_u4d that’s not true

[@UltraType_u4d]

@@ava-he9li why can't that be true as said in the video after the pandemic people had a lot of money to spend so they went on tourist sprees and as the world recovers from covid wages are booming and people are gonna be able to afford to travel who previously could never dream of

[@albevanhanoy]

AirBnB stealing homes from the housing market to put them in the tourism market is one of the biggest catastrophes to have hit Europe's big cities in the last few decades. So many people don't understand this. Thank you for bringing this to attention.

[@Netro1992]

There's not a single city in Europe we're outlawing Airbnb would result in anything beyond 1-2% temporary reduction in the price of rent, as per the actual results of known bans, so scapegoating Airbnb for a failure to allow more construction in face of mass migration, often of the illegal variety, is just activist cope.

[@worldstar907]

@@Netro1992 Airbnb host detected

[@Netro1992]

@@worldstar907 I wish, then I wouldn't be in the middle of nowhere with a 5% of dying for like a quarter of the year.

[@colewarner4954]

The problem is not AirBnB, but the inability to build new housing.

[@albevanhanoy]

@@colewarner4954 I never expressed that there was only one issue. Restricting short-term rentals and building more houses are *not* contradictory.

[@arnautarnautsen2564]

In Denmark, leaving flats empty is illegal--you don''t get fined, the municipality will actually seize the property. This makes AirBnBing a whole flat or house basically impossible; as a consequence, Copenhagen does not have a housing crisis due to short-term rental. It just has the usual kind due to American investment groups hogging all the properties.

[@oofoofontheroofurmum5131]

This makes perfect sense because when I visited Denmark, the locals were very friendly and helpful towards me

[@blackpiller3777]

The rental prices in Denmark is cheaper because of this law?

[@oofoofontheroofurmum5131]

Its more that the danish population don't have a reason to blame tourism or short term rentals for their general housing prices

[@unconventionalideas5683]

American investment groups usually do not invest unless here is already a shortage of housing. It's a well-documented phenomenon whereby although their behaviors do not make the situation any better (and can exacerbate the problems) they ultimately do not move in unless there is an anticipation of dramatic tightening (and usually low interest rates). In the US, relatively high interest rates and loosening of zoning rules to allow for many more apartments and condos, combined with a reduction in preference for single family homes helps to keep these companies worst tendencies to exacerbate everything wrong with the housing market in check. I am not as confident that the same happens in Europe.

[@velocirapture89]

The problem isn't tourism. The problem is that tourists drive up the cost of living. I saw this in Colombia. The exchange rate is very favorable, and Americans make more money than the average Colombian. So, you go down there and think, "Everything is so cheap!" But, the locals don't think that everything is "so cheap." So, if a meal that costs $30 in the USA and costs $10 in Colombia, you would say that it's "cheap." The only problem is, that meal originally cost $5 for the locals, but the owner realized they can make more money off the tourists, so the prices inflated. The cost of living then goes up for the local. This is the main issue with tourism.

[@trevnti]

Then that’s the greedy owners problem, not the tourist problem. They can keep the meals the same or even add more “luxury” meals for tourists. Even if they kept the meal at $5. They’d have 3x more customers during tourist season and still make more money.

[@ht14]

I live in Marrakech and this exact same thing happened , I was going to buy a T-shirt in Jamaa el Fna that usually costs around 4 to 7 dollars and he charged me 17 dollars . I told him to piss off

[@velocirapture89]

@@trevnti I don't think it's greedy to want to make more money. It's simply natural that, if you can make more money doing the same thing, you probably will. The best answer is for tourists to be more aware and conscientious. If they are only willing to pay the same amount for a local meal as a local would, then the prices won't inflate. Also, speaking the local language goes a very long way.

[@bigboyman5743]

​@@velocirapture89i think they'd make more money by not ripping off potential customers

[@mysterioanonymous3206]

Yeah, but those are also origin countries fir masses of immigrants, both legal and not, and they drive up cost of living in rich countries too. Housing inflation as well as wage depression are real issues, so if they bring immigrants they can receive tourists 😂 Think I'm kidding? No I'm not. Switzerland where I live has hundreds of thousands of Italians increasing my rent and suppressing my wage. So I go down there and gentrify the S out of them. Couldn't care less buddy. Places like Greece, Italy and Spain but also more recent ones like the Czech Republic or Poland sent cheap labour to the west for decades, but now they don't like it? Interesting. Now they can choke on their own medicine for all I care.

[@venomshot2815]

You think the mainland is overwhelmed? What about the Canary islands, which earn 97% of their income through tourism

[@Nhkg17]

The Canary Islands are only overcrowded in some places. For example, on Tenerife there are tourists in the south, a few places in the north and a few in the capital. Just walk out of the capital into the mountains and you'll meet one or two tourists in 4 hours of walking in the beautiful mountains on perfect stone paths. And there are very few tourists on La Gomera.

[@venomshot2815]

@@Nhkg17 that's not the worst part. Property costs are through the roof, wages are the same if not lower than the mainland

[@Nhkg17]

@@venomshot2815 House prices have gone crazy in most of Europe and North America. Even in my town, and we have a minimum of tourists and migrants. The only solution is to build more, but that probably won't help in tourist destinations. I go to the Canary Islands once a year. So unfortunately I'm contributing to the property prices. But the local mountains are unique and it's practically the only destination in the EU suitable for winter tourism. I meet the minimum of people, I hike in the mountains and only go to the villages for dinner and sleepovers.

[@CarlosPerez-zf1uy]

Yeah and they are the poorest region in SPAIN. How?

[@totre-hv5jb]

97% de qué ingreso? la gente no entiende lo que lee, un 97% dice jajaja

[@spawnofyakub8390]

Watching this as an American wrapping up his 2 week vacation around Italy, in Venice, Florence, and Rome. The anti-tourism is very real, and very palpable wherever you go. And honestly, I get it. All the main streets are so overcrowded you can barely navigate, and all of the museums and historic buildings are so busy you can't really enjoy what you're there to see. Venice especially doesn't even feel like a city anymore, more like Disneyland with all of its trappings. Coming from a tourist town myself, I 100% understand the feeling. Dumbass tourists don't speak the language, don't know where to walk or drive, and take up all the parking. All your favorite restaurants get worse and more expensive, and all your favorite bars get too full to even order a drink, which now costs $16. It sucks, and a balance needs to be found for everyone, tourists included.

[@Lampoluke]

Venice is destroyed, literally not a working city anymore. It's not a place where Italians can live anymore, which is an issue that stacks on top of the rampant uncontrolled immigration in the country. Saying that people are pissed is an understatement.

[@dulcedeleche22]

Damn did you think it was because you’re American? I’m South American and visited Florence and toured Tuscany, Naples, Sorrento, and the Amalfi Coast and also Greece. I found Italians and Greek people to be very hospitable to me and very warm, also due to our similar cultures. They made me feel like I was back home lol. They did complain a lot about American, Chinese and British tourists to us. Many of my American friends tell me how rude alot of Europeans can be to them because they think americans are “entitled” thus being very anti-tourist towards them. If you also make the effort to make friends and connections while you’re there, the locals will show you cheaper spots with better quality food. We made a close friend with an Italian taxi driver and he became our best friend and guide, saved us a shit ton of money and scams. In Greece we were able to made a close friend who works at a laundromat and he spent a whole day with us showing us the best of Meteora and southern greece. They also showed us cheaper restaurants and bars, which are largely outside of tourist areas. They both even paid a dinner for us. You gotta get accustomed to the culture (try to speak the language, know the politics, history) and be warm, they’ll treat you much better!

[@hechss]

That’s what happens when you travel to world-famous cities during the high season (which is understandable). I traveled to northern Italy in April, avoiding Milan, and I had a really enjoyable stay. Venice is particularly lost. It’s like a theme park. I can’t imagine how frustrated the old inhabitants must be.

[@LoCoAde87]

​@Lampoluke Yup, it's sad to see what has happened to Venice over the last 2-3 decades honestly. Same with Lake Como not too far away. I might spend a day trip there, but I couldn't imagine staying there. Best to stay in cities like Verona, Brescia, Bergamo, etc.

[@AmirPounding]

@@dulcedeleche22 stop coming. we want none of yours

[@DerexArchives]

a huge part too is also the general attitude of some tourist groups, ive seen a lot of people just not show the proper respect for the places theyre going and just pretending like everything is their own or it's their own country and that kind of makes me mad

[@OrionBlaze]

In the Canary Islands, for instance, wealthy European foreigners are purchasing multiple properties from locals and converting them into Airbnb rentals. This practice is creating a housing shortage and driving up rental and sale prices for the limited remaining properties. While the islands may experience economic growth, this growth primarily benefits non-resident property owners who exploit the islands for financial gain. Locals, facing stagnant wages but rising living costs, are struggling to afford rent and basic necessities. Additionally, businesses often cater to tourists, pricing goods and services beyond the reach of locals. As a result, many residents are forced to leave their homeland to make way for affluent foreigners and tourists.

[@carolitoffana]

the island of Paros in Greece don't have home for locals because it's all airbnb now, the old people who have homes are evicting people to turn into airbnb, there's no place to local workers to live.

[@mrn13]

by "wealthy Europeans" you mean "wealthy other Europeans", since people from Canary Islands are Europeans?

[@OrionBlaze]

@@mrn13 Yes, but I said Europeans because it's easier for them to go and live there without visas. It's almost too easy to exploit the islands. If they were non-European immigrants, there might be more options to control it. But because they're part of the Schengen area, locals just have to watch their home become another playground for rich foreigners who don't care about local tradition, history or even local people. They won't speak the native language, they won't go to the local restaurants, talk to locals or be involved in anything. They just care about the nice weather and the cheap prices.

[@carolitoffana]

@@mrn13 "foreigners" is the word you apparently skipped

[@imirka5925]

The question is - why are the locals selling their properties to foreigners at all? If a local wants to sell their property, why just not rent it for another local? The answer is greed. The locals want the money from the foreigners, but don't want the foreigners locally. Doesn't ads up. Xenofobia is booming in 2024! Locals should decide or-or. In my country we say "no remorse after sex". What's done is done. People should actually grow up and act responsible first, and then put their demands on a plate. But yeah, its always easier to point fingers and act as a victim.

[@wormsblink2887]

Fortunately we here in Singapore were smart enough to ban Airbnb for short term rentals.

[@DavidLorenzana]

gg

[@Edible_Kittens]

Thank god, it’s already a squeeze to find any affordable housing here. You can pay 1 million… for a one floor flat. Bruh.

[@lzh4950]

In Singapore the tourist attractions can be crowded with tourists too e.g. Gardens by the Bay but they're mostly downtown, far from where locals live, so locals' lives aren't disrupted as badly I think. This might end up being an argument in favour of zoning. I guess the places with more overtourism complaints are those where tourist attractions are in/near where locals live e.g. Kyoto (some shrines are on the city's outskirts but you have to walk thru residential roads from the main road to access them) Probably also why we don't hear as many overtourism complaints at other tourist destinations e.g. Hokkaido, Rovaniemi, as tourists there congregate only mainly at tourist attractions that are far from where people live e.g. _Shirogane_ Blue pond, Santa Claus Village (7.5km NE from downtown Rovaniemi)

[@Cinnuh]

I think Salzburg in Austria did the same? I think this is what every city should do. There’s absolutely no reason to have AirBnBs that outweighs the major issues that arise because of rentals

[@lunarlake1]

Tourism accounted for 71% of real growth in the Spanish economy last year, so yeah, considering the dire state of spains economy axing it would bankrupt the country.

[@Yabyaba]

Are you sure about 71%? It seems too high even for Spain

[@lunarlake1]

@@Yabyaba Yes, Reuters reported it very recently

[@Symud]

skibidi dop dop yes yes ohio classic yup yup europe europe gyat fanum tax

[@NubaHuba]

That doesn't mean a lot when you factor in that the housing market is wildly unaffordable for the average salary there, mostly because of airbnbs that the tourists use

[@sberiya2]

*Acording to a tourist lobby

[@muruusa]

as someone who lives in a small European country in small city (Ljubljana) that has seen an increase in tourism recently, we don't hate tourism, but we hate mass tourism. you get stuck in traffic jams from tourists when all you want to do is go to work. they don't respect locals, because they will have parties on a week night. i know of people who had to move out of their apartments during summer, so that the owner could rent it out to tourists and earn more money. not to mention that people arriving on cruise ships usually don't spend any money locally. there have always been tourists in Europe in the past couple of decades, but the way it is recently, where you can't even move around in your own city is just too much. and personally, we haven't seen the wage increase or the economic growth from it, so ..........

[@king-of-a-thing]

Slovenia is an amazing country. I am one fourth slovenian and visit it every year.

[@thatperson9835]

same thing. but I live in Georgia (country). I was okay with tourist but this year it was impossible to simply EXIST in my city. Tourists left a week ago and I can finally breathe. I guess this is the moment people start to appeciate autumnt despite it's pouring rain.

[@king-of-a-thing]

@@thatperson9835 where I live (Dubrovnik, Croatia) has the same issue, I hate visiting the city center. Much love to Georgia, one of the most unique countries in the world.👍🇭🇷🇸🇮🇬🇪

[@bldontmatter5319]

​@@thatperson9835went to Georgia recently. Nonstop dirty Indians, sweaty creeps from western Europe, and entitled people. Tough break for the Georgians. Should've joined Russia.

[@Ballongspisaren]

Airbnb ruins the prices of housing as investors buy a lot of apartments to use as short time rentals, coastal cities get overrun by ants invading from their cruise ships filling up anything that is for free, they walk around into private property to take a selfie with whatever they see that they find interesting or funny. It is all a joy 🤣 Anyway I don't hate people for it, most of them are ok people, they just don't know the unwritten rules as for example even if the property have no fences, it is still not ok to just walk around in someone's garden. The prices of properties need governmental regulations on more space for new builds and rules for short term rentals. When building more hotels they have to calculate in this in capacity of public transport and the water and sewage systems. F.ex Mallorca in Spain has a big water problem when there are more tourists than residents. The sewage often have leaks and the there is water shortage on drinking water. Such things need to be solved first, then build for the tourists.

[@nuzayerov]

Spain gotta advertise other provinces and cities for tourism. Most people only ever go to Madrid and Barcelona.

[@jamesedwards1284]

Rly? Andalucía, and both islands seem to do quite well

[@almaztech]

Andalucia: Seville, maybe Granada, maybe Malaga, maybe Cadiz. Although I agree, it is hard. Very hard. Mainly because there is little to see and do

[@bodyloverz30]

Palma Majorca, Canary Islands, Benidorm.

[@alfrredd]

Not true at all, Andalucia, Valencia, Balearic Islands, Canary Islands and even Northern Cities like Bilbao and San Sebastian are now packed full of tourists, there aren't many cities in near the coast left for tourists to "discover"

[@bodyloverz30]

@@alfrredd I agree, I've been to these places, on my various Transatlantic Crossings.

[@joshkatsikis9138]

I visited Paris and Barcelona in July, there were more tourists in Barcelona despite the Olympics happening in Paris

[@arericarnau4773]

thats insane

[@DioTheGreatOne]

Well of course, Paris is a shite hole

[@maverick9409]

Yeah no one gives a flying f**k about the Olympics

@@DioTheGreatOne I'd prefer to live in that shite pole than in any Eastern-European country. Üdv Magyarországról, Európa pöcegödréből.

[@costilla1212]

The only reason to visit Paris nowadays is if you want to be SA by a group of mohammeds

[@losfogo7149]

The problem lays also in the type of tourism. I come from a small mountain town, tourists used to stay all summer in a rented/bought house and that'd make it so as they would become part of the city. Now it's 2/3 days stays with giant cars that clog the streets and fuck them up, while the state says "you are a small town you need maintenance for small population" while hundreds of thousands of vehicles come trhough

[@stevecooper7883]

Governments HATE investing in proper infrastructure. Even a trolley in a ski town would do wonders for your main street

[@dioniscaraus6124]

​@@stevecooper7883How will they upkeep that infrastructure if tourism is seasonal?

[@SugeryGold]

@@dioniscaraus6124infrastructure needs to be built for the peak conditions. You don’t just ignore winter weather conditions when building a road because it’s summer half the year

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

must be an American problem with the cars

[@tudorg22]

big cars don't clog the street any more than small cars. the amount of extra space they take is not much compared to the total size of a car

[@fj4695]

I'm Spanish and I can confirm the rising rage against tourist and the housing problem but this last thing it's not only caused by rising tourism, this is being combined with lack of housing build and high immigration rates. Also even in high tourism season Spain is the leading country in unemployment

[@od813]

No sabía que las cosas estaban así de graves en España

[@xerostar33]

My city isn’t worth visiting at all but that hasn’t stopped housing prices from absurd increases, even with controls on Airbnb rentals

[@stevecooper7883]

That's largely due to government policy limiting housing development and immigration keeping demand high, since I doubt the birth rate in your hometown is above replacement if you live in the West

[@notmenotme614]

My city doesn’t even have Airbnb rentals (because it’s not worth visiting) yet we in the UK are still priced out of home ownership thanks to obscene increases in house prices. House prices are rising way more than wages / salaries. The greedy property market is to blame, not tourists.

[@jakeryan4545]

@@notmenotme614 "The greedy property market". What does this mean? Honestly asking the question. Don't know about the UK. I work in affordable housing in the US. And the fact of the matter is that in the US, it is extremely hard to build housing. Even more so if it isn't expensive "McMansion" style housing. (Due to government zoning and other regulations along with neighborhood opposition issues). If you don't build houses, and people are living in smaller households (10 people used to live in 3 houses, but now 10 people live in 5 houses), and some of the houses are turned into Airbnbs, then you are going to get way less supply of housing of housing even with the same level of "demand". The example I gave is something that happens all the time in the US. And in the US the population is growing, so that means there is actually increasing "demand". You have to ask why home prices are increasing. It shouldn't be framed as blaming tourists. But the growth of Airbnbs and the like, along with the growth of "second" (or third, fourth, fifth, etc.) homes has definitely had a huge impact on the housing market. Along with the lack of building housing (and zoning/planning rules that encourage only expensive less dense housing).

[@jakeryan4545]

Blaming increased housing prices only on Airbnb's is stupid. So is saying that Airbnb rentals don't affect the cost of housing. It's a false choice fallacy. Unless it is as easy to build a house/condo that becomes an Airbnb as it is to build a hotel room AND Airbnb owners pay the same taxes as hotel owners AND the city is building enough housing to replace the ones used by Airbnbs, Airbnb controls are necessary and important. The prices in your city would be worse without the controls. But the bigger issue (at least in the US) is zoning/building laws and NIMBYISM. And depending on where you are, the growth of corporate landlords buying up single family homes. Also smaller family sizes and growing population (neither are bad things, but again both mean you have to have more housing units, which is a problem is you aren't building enough / the ones built aren't available for people to live as full time residents).

[@Nhkg17]

@@stevecooper7883 There is not even a need for immigration. There are no tourists or immigrants in my city and housing prices have gone up tremendously. It's more that apartments that used to be occupied by 5 or 6 people are now occupied by one or two. So there is a need for many more apartments, even though there are fewer people.

[@xoudrion2775]

Step 1: Stop one of the most major economic lifelines of your country and your population Step 2: No tourists > Happy Step 3: No money > Government bad Step 4: Protest government to do better Step 5: ???? Step 6: Profit

[@bernardoheusi6146]

Hear hear

[@Blaze_ooz]

Logic

[@OZTutoh]

I like having all the locals flipping the bird in my photos anyway

[@tomasperez5916]

Why do people feel like tourism is what's keeping Barcelona from being a dystopian city with no money? Barcelona doesn't need tourist

[@awestruckcardboard3431]

​@tomasperez5916 After their entire industrial sector fell apart, tourism is really the only thing that is keeping the city floating. Unless action is taken to lessen the need for tourism, idk how the city will escape. The problem though I see is the Housing problem, Just dismantle the rent for tourist system and it should be good (Though aint that simple)

[@thanosandnobill3789]

In Santorini before two months the mayor wrote on social media "Another difficult day for our city and island with the arrival of 17,000 visitors from cruise ships. We ask for your attention and reduce our movements outside as much as we can!" What can I add here? Just let that sink in...

[@phoebeel]

If my major sent me a message like this, I'd probably go and stick myself to the harbor in protest (like the climate activists) this is ridiculous. There is no human right to travelling. You need to organise and protest in a very serious way

[@slowbowz6383]

​@@phoebeelat least tourists bring money. There's another group of people who do not bring money, but they actually syphon it! Also they rape, steal, and do crime in general, but theyre allowed to come!

[@SuperRemion]

„Difficult Day“??? Yeah must be really tough banking anything between 198,9k and 377,9k for this group of tourists in one day. And that is calculated even with the reduced tax rate of 13%. So yeah, good job for believing that rat of a mayor…

[@Spoopy_man]

What does the sink want now?

[@RafaelBorbaCostadosSanto-gt8mj]

People are dumb to visit Santorini only to fight the crowds over a spot to see that overrated sunset. There are dozens of islands more beautiful and way cheaper in Greece. No need to regulate anything though. If that is what people want to experience, let them

[@RwandaBob]

i went to madrid to study in 2022 and it wasn’t bad at all tourist wise but i went to germany, switzerland, italy, austria, and hungary in 2018 and my god i couldn’t even imagine how you’d be able to live in vienna, venice, florence, or rome. so many tourists crowding the streets everywhere, clogging up every museum and attraction, being loud leaving trash around. must be absolutely miserable living in any of those cities in the summer.

[@Doubl3_Black]

roman here; you don't! We literally had to move to the countryside. there's no more actual clothing shops (unless you count Primark which is fast fashion shit), grocery shops, electronic shops that aren't apple etc. It's unlivable, it's only souvenir shops.

[@olfrud]

I live in vienna and I basically just never go to the city center. I don’t even know where the tourists go these days because my every day life is completely detached from those areas.

[@kat284]

My partner and I went to Florence recently, and my partner was boldly walking up to idiots littering and telling them to pick it up, making sure to embarrass them. It worked but wtf, he shouldn’t have to do that, just be mindful of places you visit 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Kni0002]

I hate selfish tourists

[@PASTRAMIKick]

most of the money goes to big multinational hotel chains, who pay bad salaries, so most of that "income" goes into the multinational corporations and out of the country, the government gets their share in taxes but the local people themselves get fucked over in many ways.

[@JacobBax]

And often that share is a fraction what normal people pay.

[@aquelpibe]

And more importantly to international real estate investment funds and foreign individuals. Who owns the Airbnbs?

[@TiktokBro154]

Facts

[@Pachiku93]

Tourism apologia. Did any big hitel chain pay you?

[@aquelpibe]

@@Pachiku93 Apologia? 😁😁Did you understand what he said?

[@uri3453]

The problem in Barcelona isn't that there is turism but that the model of turism is unsustainable, this people are seeing there entire city become a turist atraction and is essentialy dying from success, my grandmother neighborhood has almost no residents left since all the apartments are now for turists and the few remaining are unafordable, they don't want to get rid of all turists what they want is to have all turists stay in hotels.

[@ssnowycloud]

dis-ho fes fort perquè l'altra gent t'escolti 🦅🦅🦅

[@armanromana1580]

Why are you spelling tourist and tourism wrong. It’s literally spelt correctly in the title of the video.

[@yourlocaljoliee]

@@armanromana1580 It's funny how no one cares

[@armanromana1580]

@@yourlocaljoliee i don get it. it seems like a simple problem to avoid.

[@uri3453]

@@armanromana1580 Dispensi l'error ortogràfic, l'anglès no és la meva llengua nativa.

[@Trillyana]

How do the people who were firing water guns at tourists even know if someone is a tourist or not

[@Terigena]

Listen whether they speak Catalan, I guess.

[@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan]

You can spot Brits from afar

[@SmootherThanSilk]

In well travelled cities, there are always hotspots that attract tourists. And if you've lived long enough somewhere, you can spot outsiders easily.

[@DrPepperone]

It was on La Rambla: no locals would patron establishments around there

[@shroomer3867]

professional racism, Spain basically invented it.

[@seppiluthold5014]

This is really good info. My wife and myself were thinking of visiting Spain next year. I sent her this video. We will go elsewhere. We already deal with large amounts of tourists where I live. Dont need to deal with more in a country that doesnt want me there anyway.

[@MmJAVImM]

Personally, as someone from Barcelona, I think the biggest actual problem is short rentals and AirBnb kind of things, that removes houses from the market and make the rents from the one that remain way higher than our people's budget. The best solution will be closing all private owned hotel chains, making AirBnb illegal and constructing national owned hotels in which all the benefits go straight into the state funds. It's OUR country who is being treated as a theme park, so is US who need the receive the benefits, not a few number of landlords or real state companies.

[@farallimacha]

You are victim of your own success. I was in Barcelona once and I want to come back. I'm interested in architecture and I only seen a fraction of what I wanted to see. You definitely need more hotels and there are places where they can be built,like the area where Barcelona Olympics happened.

[@gatunohej2965]

I know it may sound stupid for some people but this all boils down to mostly, extreme capitalism where everything is meaningless and a simple spectacle. Aside from that I think social media worsened everything. People just want to see a place to take a photo and flaunt. I also like taking photos, but it's just because I like having those as memories. Tourism now isn't appreciating value in things ,taking your time and discovering, it just means go and spend some shitty money on meaningless things and flaunt that you went there. That's why now it's so common to see people spend few days on some cities. Also those shitty eurotrips in which they make people visit 8 cities in 11 days or smt. That's not even enjoyable for me. Squeezing so much in few days makes everything feel overwhelming and makes you tired. Also yeah, money should stay there.

[@sabsterblaster]

Ban privately owned? So you are in favor of State owned hotels? That's pure communism. Then again Barcelona = liberalism which eventually turns into communism. Have a happy life!

[@Sombre____]

Airbnb is a real plague indeed.

[@entamero3664]

As a Catalan near Barcelona I think that what we really need is more hotels and more houses. Also taxing tourism doesn't seem bad. But what most Barcelonians and Spaniards want to reduce hotels and prohibit everything is the worst take and a very small minded mentality

[@davidGA殿]

That’s exactly what I think, I’m tired of people wanting to cut what gives us money because they don’t want to handle it correctly. Like, bro, just build more housing, connect it correctly with the city and there you go, affordable homes with convenient access to the city.

[@hellomycating]

Well, I think the biggest issue are those Airbnbs. Clearly Spain and other countries should limit the amount of short term housing at the same time they're building new hotels. Those older Airbnbs would be back to the long term rental market and tourism wouldn't suffer. They can also have higher taxes for tourists, particularly higher during peak season and invest those taxes in improving the infrastructure of the city center and nearby areas.

[@HSstudio.Ytchnnl]

plus limit immigration

[@skootzkadoodles]

​@@hellomycatingtheres already loads of rules and limits on airbnbs in bcn

[@hellomycating]

@@skootzkadoodles well, not enough. Look at the population demonstrating.

[@jole5468]

the thing with amsterdam is mostly that the mayor is tired of drug and prostitution tourism, nobody has trouble if people behave themselves but because the city is most famous for having legal drugs and hookers its a go to spot for young tourists who want to go somewhere they can have an experience not held back by laws. also considering the fact that there is mafia involvement in pretty much all of the touristy things in amsterdam, a big part of why they want to reduce tourism is to make the mafias weaker

[@notmenotme614]

You should come to the UK, the biggest mafia is our own government. They’re more corrupt than any other mafia.

[@tylerk3616]

Imagine flying half way across the world just for weed and vagina LOL

[@saal0]

We have mafia?

[@nuijax]

the mayor is tired of drug and prostitution but does nothing to stop the drugs and prostitution?

[@Vonononie]

⁠@@nuijaxthere’s been a reduction in hours for bars to help curb poor behaviour, plans to move the red light district out of the centre away from tourists, the red light area has been really improved in the last decade it’s much safer and cleaner, and she tried to adopt the proof of residency policy in cafes that the rest of the Nederland has but was stopped. As OP said Amsterdam has a mafia problem, driven by trafficking of different types, the elected mayor will be met with resistance for any change which weakens them. Saying she’s doing “nothing” is false, she’s not done as much as she wanted, but she’s still making changes within her powers

[@bacteriagaming7283]

> Be country that's economy is mostly dependent on tourism > Actively start discouraging tourism

[@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva]

The mayor of Kyoto Japan has been scapegoating tourists lately too. Much like that case I imagine the real problem is mismanagement.

[@GhenAurwin]

Japan only likes Japanese.

[@davidGA殿]

Kyoto is basically a city museum. He need to not blame tourists less and learn to handle them better.

[@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva]

@@davidGA殿 Yes. Most places that focus on tourism today are either run by incompetents or carnival hucksters.

[@jolp9799]

Kyoto is infamously one of (if not the) most corrupted cities in Japan due to mismanagement so I can see why the tourist scapegoat seems appealing

[@Lampoluke]

Kyoto is mostly well managed, I can see tourists being the problem.

[@randombystander5324]

Protesting the tourists instead of how tourism is handled by the people in charge is just hypocritical, especially by southern europeans. All of them have been tourist themselves before.

[@svdgnl]

I think they’re protesting because of how it’s handled. They are not against tourism, but the quantity of tourists and lack of housing for the natives.

[@davidGA殿]

It’s pretty common here to blame the thing that makes us money instead of demanding a better handling of affairs. I dislike it intensively.

[@augustovasconcellos7173]

​@svdgnl No, they're absolutely protesting against tourists themselves. Large mobs of angry people like that do not rally behind nuanced takes like "we need to better manage our tourism system." They form behind inflammatory takes and classic propaganda tactics like "The Foreigners (tm) are invading our country and ruining everything in it and we need to kick them out."

[@harrisonspiteri8729]

@@svdgnl Then explain why the protests were targeting tourists specifically.

[@luka3174]

@@davidGA殿 The people in power make money from it, but your average joe gets limited benefits and all of the downsides. If you collectively request to ban it, people uptop need to share the benefits or lose it/.

[@alexr167]

I will never understand the appeal of going to a destination thats already overrun. Why not go to lesser known places and support the local economy? Everytime I see videos like that it looks like a total nightmare of a vacation.

[@lillyie]

sometimes it's more hassle to go to the lesser known places. like requiring more flights, not to mention lesser information on the internet unlike the major places where everything's mapped out. you're essentially exploring a new land

[@Kni0002]

Going to a place overrun with tourists is a big turn off for me. Being in a crowd with other clueless tourists seems awful.

[@alexr167]

@@lillyie How about not going at peak season then? Nothing wrong with going to mapped out places but why go at peak season then if most know it will be crowded? Do people not care?

[@hollister2320]

There was some online chatter about ppl coming to visit my hometown of Vermont (New England area) this fall because of all the autumn foliage videos they’ve seen, and I’m so excited to show ppl what it’s like, words can’t even begin to describe the feeling. If you have a chance bring the fam and come check it out yall😊

[@johanalejandrocazadordepin7225]

several reasons, there are less options for things to do. For example, when I travel I still want to go to the gym and exercise but in small towns there are no Gyms which means I cant keep my training. In that sense, if I go to a small twon it has to be for less time than a city or a bigger town with a gym. This happens with several things, places where to dance, places where to swim etc. Also, in some places the only acces is by using a car and since is a small town with low density that means everything is far away which makes me depend more on cars. I could use a bike but not everyone in my family can. Big cities have big networks of public transportation which solves that problem

[@bianka94825]

The real problem is the behavior of the tourists imo. For instance, in my city, Budapest (Hungary) we have a lot of british/dutch/irish people coming for stag parties and then behaving like absolute cavemen around town causing not only annoyance to people going about their daily lives but serious financial damage too. A friend of mine lives in a central location where some of the flats are used as airbnbs and one night she had her front door kicked in by a drunk british guy who had mistaken the door for his airbnb..all that at 2am, living on her own and having to wake up for work at 6am..

[@airmasterparker2495]

5:08 "So do wages and salaries" LMAOOOOOO As a Spanish guy, living in Madrid and Valencia, and knowing people who've worked in the bartentding industry as well as other testimonies from people online, they're definitely NOT raising wages, in fact, people are denouncing the shitty conditions of that working sector that people just don't want to work there, and the worse part is, they aren't even trying to actually raise the saliries.

[@stjepanmaricevic725]

In croatia it's next lvl, they made the salaries so low that they couldn't hire anyone, so they decided to import the 3rd world to handle these jobs. Currently the country is filled by people from nepal working and living in barely livable spaces. There's no trickle down, wealth get's concentrated even more in hands of a few.

[@balsarmy]

That's sad

[@monhi64]

We actually struggle in the US with the opposite. A lot of bartenders or servers will end up making loads more than their managers or possibly the owners in some cases especially if you’re attractive and or charming and or a woman in a tourist spot omg. That’s why tipping is absurd, it’s basically more-so a way for people to get paid based on how bangable they are than actually doing their job. The only defenders of tipping these days are the service people getting tipped. I can’t speak for Spain but it’s totally true in general that touristy areas have higher wages but that doesn’t mean it’s necessarily something you consciously witness rising, you more so gotta think about whether a bartender in the most touristy parts of Madrid would make more than a bartender in a remote bumfuck area

[@johanalejandrocazadordepin7225]

stop voting for socialists then lol.

[@mannymarotta]

Facts, I've been trying to get a job in hospitality in Italy and the very most I'll find in terms of salary is 1100 Euro/month.

[@stevess7777]

how about the locals pressure the government to create more resilient infrastructure instead of scaring away 80% of their income source

[@Leo-ok3uj]

Because tourism isn’t profitable enough as to pay for that infrastructure

[@eduardoalejandre7958]

The problem as the video stated is that tourism is seasonal, expanding public transport or increasing infrastructure capacity would only work if the local population is big enough to maintain it. Otherwise you will have expensive trains running completely empty almost all year long only to be used on vacation time by tourists. A whole new economic model is needed to account for this kind of strain on the logistics of a city.

[@heldercaze6333]

​​​​​​@@Leo-ok3uj17:08 taxes.

[@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm]

Because it's money for very few at the top, and everyone else try to survive while being priced out of their own homes

[@trevnti]

@@MariaRodriguez-dx6smnot really, many local businesses rely on tourism. Especially restaurants and hospitality. Can they suffer an 80% income loss.

[@amymagdaleneta]

Hotel bans happen because in a fully developed municipality (aka, there's almost zero brownfield) like barcelona, the new hotels replace old residential property stock with what is essentially 100% tourist rentals

[@Kurainuz]

this, the ban on hotels is not to stop new hotels where there is space for them, its because a lot of the new hotels are being build by transforming what used to be building where people had homes

[@muaowa]

This sounds like a grave error/greed to not prevent this from happening in the first place. Can anyone afford rent with a normal job?

[@Kurainuz]

​@@muaowa Average rent in barcelona is 1.136 euros, while the average salary is 1.516, so a lot of people have to go to other cities "near" barcelona taking 1 to 2 hours to arrive at work. In mallorca there was news that the medics had to live in vans because most rent was short term oriented or extremely expensive

[@muaowa]

@@Kurainuz That’s crazy as hell, so basically Barcelona is being run like San Fransisco? I’d be mad too

[@Kurainuz]

@@muaowa not as bad as we at least have public healthcare but barcelona concentrates a lot of the mediterranean industry and tourism, politicians using independence to its prime territory for real state "investors" at the cost of normal people, wich sadly is happening a lot around the world with every big or touristic city

[@viadaniels-fallis7738]

It’s a big respect thing too though, I just returned from Italy and I have family in Spain/Italy. Tourists crowd stations when they’re lost and are very rude to workers when they need help, or cause pickpocketing to get worse around historical sites that often mean a lot to us and our culture, tourists actually stopped me in Paris to take a photo with me a “Real European” in front of Notre Dame. I’m from Missouri. It’s just weird and I think more than anything people are just losing their social skills post covid and manners and the Europeans don’t appear to be taking kindly. I don’t blame em but this is just my opinion as well.

[@alpenfoxvideo7255]

I was in a no-tourist protest when i was a tourist... it was like sightseeing as we moved across the most recognized locations

[@ML-mm2th]

😂

[@Vykerocha]

Meet the spy

[@Somebody374-bv8cd]

"We do a bit of trolling"

[@nanacue]

"theres someone odd among us" ahhh protest

[@fray3dendsofsanity]

Wow how do I pay for this experience? I really want that AUtHEntIC, loCAl vibe you know?

[@psyste4708]

The thing is tourists do go home. It’s easier to blame them than the real problem that these particular cities are experiencing. Yes holiday LETS need addressing I think that they are harmful however there is another even larger issue to deal with.

[@Canleaf08]

Rich people buying up land and houses. Renovict renters. So people won't get new appartments. It is so easy to blame issues on tourists or migrants. 2008 the financial crisis booted an entire year off the tracks. Especially in Spain.

[@asdfoifhvjbkaos]

@@Canleaf08people always blame foreigners

[@msergio0293]

Yeah people from the Iberian peninsula are not known to be particularly smart

[@kaliyuga1476]

Yeah, our main problem is focusing on tourism

[@DavidJimenez-ux2lw]

Tourists go home is just a slogan, organisations know perfectly the problem is not tourists individually but the system

[@Grape_juice555]

I am in a popular tourist area in Australia, and it’s very stressing here. Over thousands of tourists strain out public transport. And if you try to take a good picture of the beach you’ll find someone’s head in your picture. This is the problem with 1st world countries tourism is getting to far and straining supplies and housing for locals.

[@2expressmranderson]

Bondi? I'm fron Brisbane

[@AndrewBarsky]

Too many people in general. Don’t think it’s just tourists. The world just has a lot more people than it did.

[@tatjana7008]

can there be more entitlement in 1 comment ? "someone head in your picture" - its public place, ofc there will be people "1st world countries" - old fashioned and not anymore existing term, just to push down others countries. Big News : Cold War is over and Australia housing problem is due to billionaires reallocating their assets there, not day tourist search the source of problem, not its symptome

[@Kni0002]

Funny when heading home on Friday, the freeways always get clogged, but as a local you know the backroads :)

[@dominiksurowiecki8511]

We don't have many tourist's in Poland. If you want to vist us we will be happy and welcoming

[@blotski]

My favourite country in Europe. 🇵🇱

[@king-of-a-thing]

Poland and Croatia are brothers!!!🇵🇱🤝🇭🇷

[@lavanderpasta]

I wish that was true, but according to my asian relatives who have been to Poland most of you were very racist towards them. Maybe most of you are only welcoming to white people, I wish the racist ones would see that every human being is equal.

[@Ab-ks5ui]

I am black British will I b okay ? Would love to come Poland but maybe I stereotype as racist due to past experience ( I visit polski shop in uk they tell me I’m in the wrong place .. I was 10) I ask you geniuenly your opinion

[@nevergiveup9937]

Until you start to get too many, and then you'll be happy no more.

[@dmaneiras]

What people seem to forget is that the tourism/hospitality industry pays such shitty wages and has really bad working conditions, specially for what they offer. These are not high-quality jobs, and creating more incentives to let tourism dominate the local economies even more, isn't going to bring extra wealth to your average citizen, it just brings wealth to those that own Airbnbs, restaurants, shops, etc. Southern Europeans don't have to accept the "charity" given by Northern Europeans in the form of the money they spend while on vacation. We should strive to make the same amount of money that our European counterparts make, working in far more productive and high-value added industries. The government should have policy that attracts that kind of investment, not the investment of large hotel chains, retailers and private investors looking to buy their 3rd short-term rental.

[@emiliaa5476]

Exactly. The idea “more tourists more money” it’s a fantasy. Wages in hospitality are still shit (in Italy at least)

[@truthseeker4084]

Ask yourself why Spanish workers accept working under these conditions while a Swiss person wouldnt work under 20 Swiss francs per hour. For example, Switzerland has a more diversified economy with a strong emphasis on high-value-added industries such as finance, pharmaceuticals, and technology. This leads to higher average wages across the board. In contrast, Spain has a higher reliance on low-wage sectors like tourism, which can depress overall wage levels. Higher productivity in Swiss industries allows for higher wages. The Swiss economy invests significantly in innovation and technology, resulting in better-paid jobs. Spain, with a focus on sectors like tourism, has lower productivity levels, which contributes to lower wages in those industries. Switzerland invests significantly in research and development, which fosters a culture of innovation and high-skilled jobs. Spain, while making strides in education, has not consistently matched this level of investment, resulting in a workforce that may be less competitive in high-value-added sectors. Its not the fault of tourists, its the fault of Spaniards themselves. Its a structural weakness across Spain and not a tourism issue.

[@EB-jf5oi]

Ok so we will build some factories in Spain. Most of the workers will be low paid and the work less enjoyable.

[@Jeuxism]

Exactly

[@patricequinn7733]

@@truthseeker4084 Finance ,Pharmaceuticals and Innovation create their own nightmares,especially since they're mostly unregulated and worshipped as "problem-solvers.the hubris is reflected in truthseeker's comment.

[@davimatte0]

One of the problems I face as a traveller is the crazy moneygrabbing from hotels, that is keeping travellers away from them. For example, in some hotel rooms, in the cheap side (circa 100 x 2 people a night), you don't even get a coffe machine in the room, so you have to pay at least 2 euros for a coffe, they will give you a water heater if you are lucky and nowere to sit if not your bed or a single uncomfortable chair for eating a meal you bought (that you cannot heat, because almost no room in hotels have microwaves). Lot of hotels charge even 15 euros a day for a mediocre breakfast and same thing for the parking, lots of money, and if there is a restaurant in the hotel usually is super expensive and mediocre. So, why should I pay that kind of money for almost no service? I book a house, with a complete kitchen, a fridge, a sofa, a dining table, a wardrobe and so on... If hotels will raise their standards, no problem, but for now... no way.

[@Bozebo]

Yeah I want to cook my own food with local ingredients, that's half the point in travelling. Hotels are useless for that (a minority have self catering but guess what... much more expensive than an airb&b), and just why is their food so unbelievably bad anyway? Surely it cost more to research how to specifically make terrible food on purpose that is otherwise impossible if you just cook normally? I don't know if they're a thing in the rest of the world, but we do have "guest houses" in the UK which are a good alternative sometimes, small owner occupied hotels. You can just ask to use their kitchen and they are almost guaranteed to be happy to let you.

[@tisvana18]

Your problem is going to a 15 euro/day hotel jfc, I’m surprised they even give you a roof

[@Miami1991]

@@Bozebo exactly and also I live to feel like a traveler or a local when I go to a country that’s why AIRBNB is so attractive over a hotel . I love to stay in the little neighborhoods away from the centre but not too far . My own kitchen and space and a balcony or veranda . Airbnb beats a hotel by miles . I don’t like to feel like a tourist my type of travel is to fit in

[@char1211]

Lol y'all can have these preferences but by staying in a place meant for normal everyday living, you will inevitably fuck over the locals. If you aim to "feel like a local" then you are competing with the locals for their resources

[@padisuromertani]

5:55 "Amsterdam home to many worldclass companies" proceed to insert VOC 💀💀

[@DJstarrfish]

It's true though, world-class crimes against humanity

[@padisuromertani]

@@DJstarrfish culturstelsel is coming for you

[@jamesedwards1284]

GEKOLONISEERD

[@jaide1312]

@@DJstarrfish that goes for all world class companies! Though the VOC was particularly bad

[@mildlydispleased3221]

Shell is based in London.

[@JackLeonhardt]

Its almost as if they want our money but dont want us there..

[@Matt-jc2ml]

0:10 this isn't surprising. The population goes up over time, so it makes sense that every 2-3 years everything will be the most its ever been and set some type of record. For anything that's about the number of people

[@MappingEagle]

Yeah I hate when people just forget the fact that global population skyrocketed in the last century. One particularly annoying one is politicians saying they have the most voters in the history of the country, well yeah because there are more people that can vote in the country

[@SpicyTexan64]

​@@MappingEaglebut less people vote. Your logic is deranged. People are having fewer children than ever. So that population will plummet. You probably think that's a good thing but who will pay for all the things? The economy will crash. And Europe is already dead. They just don't know it yet

[@tijmen131]

Well allot of western countries actually decline in population or grow only because of migration. But yeah India and China are getting more and more people who can travel

[@Matt-jc2ml]

@@MappingEagle *cough* sleepy joe *cough*

[@Matt-jc2ml]

@@tijmen131 yeah once they become wealthy enough they decline. But thats only on a short timeframe. If you look at like every 50 years most countries tend to grow quite a bit

[@BoredSquirell]

Getting rid of cruise ships would be a good first step. Unlike regular tourists who sleep and eat in the city, cruise visitors basically don't contribute anything to the economy

[@robertnebot9863]

But at least they don’t rent airbnbs, which is one of the main complaints

[@smvsspould]

The port fees cruise ships pay are enormous, but I agree, large cruise ships shouldn't be right in the city centre, and the amount of visitors should be proportional to the destination size. Santorini for example is completely swamped, whereas there's plenty of larger cities that can absorb hundreds of thousands of people per day easily. I'm all on board for adding a daily tourist tax.

[@richatlarge462]

I thought the main problem was that tourists compete for housing. Cruise ship tourists don't do that. And they spend money at the shops. That being said, just limit the number of cruise ships per day, to avoid the overcrowding.

[@dingaling487]

Spain when something good happens to the economy -> complain Spain when something bad happens to their economy (normal) -> complain

[@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan]

Too much is too much

[@grbbsc]

Human being when thing happens (good or bad) -> complain another alien W from Kepler 320B

[@philipgwyn8091]

Tourism is not necessarily something good happening to the economy.

[@canaldecasta]

It's not good for the economy, only the rich and influential benefit from this. The actual people living there struggle more.

[@malvarezv97]

I've lived in Spain, beautiful country but my God, these people just never stop bitching and complaining about EVERYTHING.

[@real8310]

As someone who lives in Mallorca, the actual issue is they increase the price of living and rent here. Because what they do is, rich british and german tourists buy cheap houses in random cities or villages from old people with no kids and put them for sale/rent for 10x the price. Not only that, here theyre known for not caring about the environment, throwing trash everywhere etc etc

[@ocut787]

I think the main Problem is Airbnb and sites like it. You should just ban this in the most popular Places and encurage them in less known Places.

[@almaztech]

Have fun with the Airbnb owners rallying up and calling you every possible name ever because you are curtailing the business. I am from Spain, I don't know about you, but oh boy. We spanish loooove to protest

[@sonderexpeditions]

Airbnb isn't even 1% of housing. It's much more about mismanagement

[@sonderexpeditions]

I'm in nyc and airbnb is banned and our housing crisis is worse than ever

[@juannaym8488]

@@sonderexpeditions yeah largely because of blackrock and dealings between politicians and major landlords

[@Bozebo]

@@sonderexpeditions NYC is some special kind of bullshit. The highest tax take in the world, but... relatively underfunded services, where is the money going exactly then? Over a hundred billion a year is just outright stolen, that's where. So because action isn't being taken because the money is stolen and there aren't well funded authorities, you have complete organised crime control of the construction and housing industries. Plus who wants to work investigating that? You will end up at the bottom of a river pronto.

[@DaTrainMan]

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[@apdanielski]

Tbilisi is lovely 🇺🇸❤️🇬🇪

[@DaTrainMan]

@@apdanielskithanks ❤

[@pimsterr]

SAKHARTVELO!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!

[@imabitmid]

🇬🇪2-0🇵🇹 RAAAAAHHHHH

[@ВладиславКоптев-ф7ь]

I love khinkali, thanks Georgia🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪

[@franekretek4436]

If spain doesnt accept then come to Kraków, Poland. Not only are we the more beautiful city, we also would like all of you to come here and spend your money here

[@morriskaller3549]

Bruh do you actually believe Poland can compete with Spain 😂

[@G0rdy92]

Many go for the great weather, architecture, history and food, and sorry homie, but no one is going to krakow for the weather and food 😂, you do have some nice architecture and history though, just not going to compete with the warmer southern European destinations on a macro level.

[@alexstromberg7696]

whgo would go to poland, to look as jew shoes on the camps? fun for 10mins

[@trevnti]

I want to visit Poland, my wife is nervous about it though. What are some recommendations? I’ve been trying to convince her a couple years

[@aselliofacchio]

​@@morriskaller3549you clearly don't know anything about Poland.

[@area352recs]

I live in a country with very little tourism. The prices here are also insanely high for housing and living. It's not the fault of tourists, it's the greedy corporations and landlords. Start naming them publicly and then start seeing some change.

[@Cinnuh]

It’s both tbh, tourists just add up to it, but governments are ultimately the ones not intervening the right way (->regulation) or just supporting the landlords and real estate lobbies

[@somyachauhan7665]

Nah the regulations just make it worst as less departments and normal homeowners are unable to compete with estate companies due to regulations ​@Cinnuh

[@lab8789]

I was born and raised in Barcelona all my life, like my friends and family, and honestly, we couldn't care less about the tourists. They only go to their 4 touristic places, they eat in tourists restaurants and party in tourists clubs, they literally live in a different city. They are a pain indeed if for some reason you need to go to those areas, but you avoid it at certain times, and usually there's no reason to go there. The people you see watering those poor tourists probably live in those super (few) touristic areas, RIP for them honestly, but most of the city has no tourists. The Airbnbs do put some pressure on the price, but only in those pockets of tourists, trust, no tourist would like to leave where I leave, far away from all the attractions, as a matter of fact, surrounding areas of the city have higher prices than the city itself, just like most cities around the world, housing is unaffordable, they try to blame BnBs, but I don't think is the case.

[@maybenations]

He showcased this in the Venice example, where slowly the whole Island is/has become such a "tourist-only" city. The thing about cities, is that historically the richer ones tend to grow and absorb poorer ones, don't be surprised when more and more of your city will be incentivized to become more for and like those "tourist areas", until you live in one.

[@nilsdula7693]

^això. Els turistes cada cop arriben més amunt.

[@ThatOneGuy8305]

One little caveat: it's not entirely clear WHERE short-term rentals come from housing-wise. The assumption is usually "they come from owner-occupied housing" but at least in the US that doesn't really seem to be the case. San Francisco has lower residential vacancy (a residential unit is vacant if it is not occupied full-time as a primary residence) now than it did in 2000. It appears instead that other underused properties - second homes, vacation homes, units held in absentia for whatever reason - have shifted usage towards short-term rentals.

[@Kurainuz]

Idk how it was in usa but here in spain a lot of apartments used to be homes that could have been rented for long stays or sold to normal people have become short term rents (a 55%increase) and residential vacancy is misleading here, a lot, as its based on the province and not the city most of the time so it includes conflict and drug zones, and also the zones outside of cities that are full of old places nobody wants as they lack basic services. Another example a russian investment firm in my neighborhood has been buying out a lot of apartments as owners die of old age and and turning it into airbnbs, and its a very common ocurrence. Most of the empty apartments that are not rented its because owners are trying to sell them, being scared or too busy to rent, and no investment firm has tried buying it, and as most young people in seach of a home cant afford the 20% of the total cost + taxes of the apartment worth that banks demand to grant you a morgage, said apartments end up not being empty.

[@VPCh.]

1:59 I work as a geolgist in the mining sector. Yes, a mine sucks up an initial investment, but the amount of salary and taxes it gives back to the local community will rapidly make up for that. Communities with few jobs and no money can turn into wealthy communities with high employment in just a few years. And while the resource will eventually dry up, that won't be an issue if the community invests the money rather than spending it all immediately. If anything, the comparison to mining is a positive argument for tourism.

[@Bozebo]

Mining licenses etc. are heavily regulated and would not be granted if you were to just extract all the wealth and not pay well. Whereas tourism, they just allow private operators to compete and wash their hands of it and say oh well the market will do its thing and pay people pennies. It would be impossible to regulate the thousands of individual companies involved, it'd cost more in governmental oversight than the tax they could even bring in.

[@Nathaniel0022]

I feel like there should be a major distinction between a "tourist" and a "traveller". Tourists come to places with a fantastical view of their destination and seek to be pampered and accommodated. But Travellers seek to explore, they dont have an expectation of what a place should be and generally understand that they are outsiders and do their best to respect the places they visit. The point of travelling is to get a new experience from a place that is different. The point of touring is to get a pre-made experience packaged perfectly for you so you dont need to experience the inconvenience and struggle that comes with traveling. Idk if this dichodemy is entirely useful but i think its worth considering.

[@hansdupuis8263]

The Airbnb problem can be it’s own video, there is so much to tell about that topic and housing problems

[@Notllamalord]

As someone living in Orlando FL I have 0 experience with tourists

[@canaldecasta]

Corruption and poor work conditions are killing Spain.

[@Joe-cb6ex]

Capitalism working as intended is

[@zarekbeck3358]

@@Joe-cb6ex capitalists? that's very anti-semitic of you....

[@johnnymartinjohansen]

I went to Mallorca in 2018. While there, there were a lot of people in the hospitality business protesting against tourists - an international newspaper the hotel gave us said they were 3000. These are mostly workers coming from the mainland to work there in the tourist season. They didn't live there, but came there to work. So they were trying to bite the hands that feeds them. Absolutely ridiculous.

[@PKOB2]

As a British person, we sometimes do a booze cruise, taking a ferry from Dover too Calais, buy a loud of French food, and then bring it back home the same day.

[@meissoun]

The problem is also that staying at an apartment is usually cheaper than a hotel. Why should I pay 150 € per night for a hotel room that is so small I can hardly walk around my bed when I can stay at a private flat with a living room, kitchen and big terrace for almost half of the price? Especially when I am staying somewhere for a week, I like the convenience of having a washing machine. So even though I am always looking at hotels, I regularly opt for the apartment. On the other hand, I usually travel in the off season which is one way to avoid the crazy crowds and it's also better for a destination because it distributes the load of tourism. So if ever possible, stay at home during July / August. You will often have a much more pleasant experience in May / October.

[@marioskoutras6583]

Excessive tourism and airbnb made Athens very expensive for the locals. For many Greek people is almost impossible to live here anymore. I don't care about the "benefits", this must be stopped or at the very least, heavily regulated.

[@damn_jaz9895]

What about mykonos and the other tourist traps?

[@nickklavdianos5136]

Those are even worse.

[@carolitoffana]

My first thought was the island of Paros, I saw a youtube video about the local workers not being able to live in the island

[@vm-bh1dm]

​@@carolitoffanai live on a island close to paros, Me and my partner are forced to move out of any apartment we rent in the winter once june hits because they all become airbnbs. There are genuinely no options that are reasonably priced for locals who don't want to live with their parents. Im tired of having to move houses 2 times a year

[@DARKINBLADE.]

I went to Athens last year as a surprise trip that I had no say in, and honestly I just felt lowkey bad the entire time. The Acropolis was disgustingly overpacked, even with a 2-3 hour queue time in 40c weather. They had to eventually evacuate the site because it got so hot and people were suffering from heatstroke (me included). The staff looked absolutely drained, tourists were constantly trying to touch and climb on things they shouldn’t and you just hear the staff becoming a broken record because people cannot give basic respect. We actually went to a certain bar for my birthday, but they ghosted us and refused to serve us because we were British tourists and they didn’t want us getting rowdy like most of us dickheads unfortunately do. Also, tons of people trying to beg and even pickpocket. Again, can’t blame them with how flooded it is with tourists. Beautiful history, but I will never be travelling there again because the locals looked so fed up with our crap. I would be too if my country was that bad.

[@Zekrom569]

I think one reason for the overcrowding is social media algorithm or influencer inspired tourism, people go to certain areas, even to dangerous areas not because they want to visit the area but because they are seeing a place they can snap a photo of and upload it to social media that is likely to receive many likes and comments. Lately they have a huge problem in mt. everest with overcrowding from this kind of tourist that not only makes it very frustrating, it also makes the trip much more dangerous for the guides because a lot of times they are ill equipped tourists that dont have the skills or endurance but they go anyway because they have the money and they are insistent of reaching the summit to get an instagrammable photo. I think the same happens with all these overcrowded destinations and the airbnb economy makes it harder for locals to find affordable housing. In my country, Greece, which is another huge tourist hotspot, the government had regulated airbnbs and short term rentals in general and it had a bit of a positive effect, but the problem is that still landlords have full control of how they price their houses and lately it had seen a quite amount of greedflation by turning flats that were rated around 300€/month to now costing more than double, 700€, 800€, 900€ or even 1000€. In short, airbnb just shown the shortcomings the rental market has and how landlords can abuse the fact that they can provide a home to someone, one of the very basic necessities for a human to be safe, to hoard money. TL;DR: social media probably had its fair share on mass tourism and very short term trips to certain areas

[@MHX11]

You post this video 10 minutes after I booked my trip to Malta, oops

[@gawkthimm6030]

you dont owe any explanation to some random youtuber

[@MHX11]

@@gawkthimm6030 whoopsie daisy

[@gawkthimm6030]

@@MHX11 no need, Hope your trip to Malta is great, I want to go there and see the History

[@MarcusAureliusTitus]

It's fine now, protests were only at the peak of the season when it became unbearable for the locals.

[@isabel_lima]

Malta is beautiful, nice choice. and they don't have overtourism.

[@theexplosive1062]

As an Icelander, I see this as an absoulute win (Half of our economy is tourism)

[@salamandah69]

It depends on the country.

[@3dstaco]

So the biggest solution would be to ban or limit rentals significantly. Then hotels will be booked and the price to visit will rise because of scarcity. Work with the hotel to give more benefit to those that book for longer stays. Then if there's an under tourised spot the price will be way cheaper and development can go to these zones. Finally start capping immigration that brings in new poorer citizens. Am i missing something? Seems pretty simple, the only issue is political bribery

[@SiimKoger]

I went to Athens Acropolis during the pandemic in 2021 and after the pandemic in 2023 around the same time of the year. The first one was the best sight-seeing experience I've ever had, the second was The worst. The first time I counted visitors besides me on my two hands - I could actually imagine the greatness of this place. The second time felt like being sardines in a can - all I could think about was leaving.

[@mystic13337]

Governments are always skilled at decreasing supply and making a situation worse.

[@CreateTeen]

As an Iowan, Fall is the best time to visit! Corn fielda galore!

[@msergio0293]

Lol, I love your comment 😊

[@ZacharyBelli]

Unironically, I went to Nebraska once from Colorado for an eclipse, and the moisture coming from all the corn during the sun block out was insanely cool, and just being surrounded by high rows of nothing but crops on all sides driving down the highway. We aren’t wet enough in Colorado to get that level of humidity or greenery, it’s mostly plains outside of the mountains and even a lot of the mountains are so high there’s just rocks and snow lol.

[@misstekhead]

I got lost with my fiancé and his sister in Iowa while driving past a massive maze of corn fields. I have never felt such dread in my life. “Where is human life?!” “We have no working GPS and no phone signal!” “F^^^^^^^CK!” Fun times. 😊

[@ald7282]

iowa mentioned!! the DSM metro does have some cool stuff to do, especially for out-of-towners.

[@Nun195]

The best part about Iowa is when you escape.

[@Ismaybeanerd]

I feel bad cuz my family always loves rentals (we like to cook our own food and hotels never have a big kitchen) but I think the solution shouldn't be "don't buy rentals", it should be "go visit non touristy locations and boost their economy"

[@folgerkelley2715]

That does way less good for way less people than not actively competing with a city’s housing supply sorry try again

[@CeBePuH]

Then raise the prices. As a bonus to all the cash, you get better tourists.

[@cornelisachtenzestig5533]

The Economist researched the number of tourists compared with the number of inhabitants. This shows: for every inhabitant, Amsterdam receives 10.1 tourists. Paris follows with 8 tourists for every inhabitant. Milan (6.3), Barcelona (5.9), Malaysian Kuala Lumpur (5.4) complete the top 5. As an inhabitant of Amsterdam, I welcome tourists. I would however advise them not to flock together, but also visit other places if they want to see the real Amsterdam.

[@perhapsyes2493]

Ja, maar ze zouden ook naar de omliggende kleinere steden kunnen gaan. Al heb ik als Haarlemmer ook al wel voldoende last van tourisme... godsamme wat maken die rolkoffers een hoop herrie over de kinderkopjes. Met name om half 3 's nachts...

[@richatlarge462]

The numbers would make more sense if you divide the average length of a tourist stay by 365, then multiply by the figures you mentioned.

[@Joe-cb6ex]

Many from Amsterdam are absolutely sick of tourism as well. As someone who has to travel to AMS for work regularly, I don't understand the appeal in the slightest.

[@SyedAbdusSattar-i5t]

I am from India, and I visited Spain this year (my first time in a foreign land) as a part of a college international immersion exchange program. I was there for one week in Madrid and one week in Barcelona, both cities were great, but I liked Barcelona more. I had a great time, the people there were great, but at the same time, I could see why the people would not like it, especially in Barcelona. The Airbnbs in Barcelona were four times as expensive as in Madrid, and I saw a couple of shady areas, a couple of homeless people (which I did not see in Madrid) and a few shady places where people took drugs and were in terrible condition, vomiting and lying on the ground. Real estate prices are through the roofs in Barcelona, and rentals are sky-high, which is taking a toll on the locals. Also, one stark observation is that Spanish people were a lot older on average compared to India (I saw a lot of older adults with no kids). I had a great in Spain overall.

[@usrevenge]

Tourism is one if the only things Spain is known for. It's sorta like how tourism is what florida is known for economy wise.

[@jackiebiskan4748]

the amount of people alive makes this ovy that more people travel as we have more people

[@duncanluciak5516]

"More people voted for me than ever!" -well duh, pop growth

[@jackiebiskan4748]

@@duncanluciak5516 yeah I always find that argument to be so trashed I would love it if a president said 50% of America voted for me or 70% of American voters voted for me that sounds impressive Not the most people ever voted for me ever when there's more people than ever

[@bigboyman5743]

thats what overpopulation is, friend

[@terachad7459]

Us Spaniards wouldn't be so annoyed at tourists if we saw the benefits of it, but some places of Spain don't even have train…

[@G0rdy92]

Yeah I think that’s the thing people don’t understand, I’m not in Spain, but I’m in a really popular tourist area in California and the average person just doesn’t see the benefits of tourism or the tourism economy, we just get the negatives and we prefer not to have it (or at least have it in a smaller volume were the negatives aren’t as overwhelming) Hospitality jobs suck and don’t pay even close enough to live at or near the area (need to work 2-4 jobs just to afford rent in a crappy area near the tourist spots/ your old homes. We either need better distribution of that tourism money or less tourism, because the current model sucks for most of the residents and it’s why you see backlash/ hate for tourism around the world at tourist destinations.

[@Thegreatshark656]

I mean you should probably be petitioning your government for better use of tourist revenue right? Getting mad at the tourists for something they’re not in charge of is like screaming at an oil deposit for not being equitably distributed around every citizen

[@unfunniestman]

Yall have trains outside of the capital? - This comment was written by the Peru gang

[@jb_19]

I thought Spaniards have free healthcare? Tourism funds that.

[@kaliyuga1476]

@@Thegreatshark656 Thats what we did, no changes done.

[@MrAwesomestar7]

Sounds more like a mismanagement problem with tourism as the scapegoat 😅

[@UneMeiMei]

I live in France in a city called Strasbourg. Every year, for the whole month of december, the christmas market takes over the entirety of the city centre. You might think "oh a christmas market is a thing made by locals for locals"... WRONG. Everyone living in the city hates it. The city centre is a mess to naviguate for a whole month because of security checks and the sheer amount of tourtists. Prices are up, most rental places are turned to rbnbs, and it's an absolute nightmare. It's come to the point where people LIVING in strasbourg avoid the centre at all cost for the duration of the market. Not even mentionning all the shops that opened and are specifically targeted for tourists and make their whole yearly income in that single month. Hopefully, it's not as dire as in other places. We can still find places to rent (even though the prices are quite high), and there are still many shops in the city centre that do not target only tourists. But people have to understand that tourism is NOT the final goal. If one can't even afford to live in their city anymore, they'll just live, and no amount of seasonal tourists can replace people actually living there to fuel the economy

[@kekkocrybaby18]

I live in naples and nowdays its really hard to find a long-term rental apartement, and when u do find it, its probably at double the price of five years ago

[@menorcaventura3442]

I lived in Spain for many years. I live in Lorton, Virginia now. Famous for its prison, landfill, and sewage treatment plant. My rent for a 2-bedroom is $2600/month. My mortgage pre-divorce and pre-pandemic for a 3-bedroom townhouse w garage was $1800 in a less central location, Tourism is not the problem.

[@Joe-cb6ex]

Housing is an issue globally, but there are a number of issues that have disproportional effects on different areas. Tourism is disproportional in Spain, not in Bumfuck County VA

[@killer41756]

yeah PRE PANDEMIC

[@vikonbmw1266]

In spain people that say tourist go home are exactly the same that say refugees welcome...

[@Easthor]

Los refugiados no nos suben los alquileres, palurdo.

[@vikonbmw1266]

@@Easthor si pero revientan la tasa de delincuencia 😂😂

[@Easthor]

@@vikonbmw1266 Lo gracioso es que no es así

[@wlink639]

@@Easthor Refugees don't raise rent? So what are they all homeless? Social housing is expending resources that could be used for regular housing and eventually immigrants are expected to work and rent out/own places all the same. Any population increases demand.

[@Samsung-1.9Cu.Ft.Microwave]

​@@Easthorno they don't, they take from the government (your taxes) and give nothing in return. Spain is proud ☪ mashallah

[@Tzumaoable]

It's all fun and games until the unholy ABC (American British Chinese) decends on your city In a more real sense, the worst thing are domestic actors exploiting the situation, short term rentals being the biggest problem

[@dharmanndrip6065]

Im going there for a school trip 💀

[@Akinrise_27]

Rest in peace

[@ponternal]

Whole class getting jumped

[@Onxion]

rip

[@sberiya2]

I'm native from Barcelona, you won't have any problem.

[@iggy751]

You'll be fine the main touristy areas are perfectly safe.

[@bananaempijama]

The problem is not tourism itself, is lack of regulation by the local governments. I know that, my city Lisbon, Portugal, is getting worse by the year. House prices skyrocket, the same for restaurants, the downtown is for foreigners....

[@therealspeedwagon1451]

I think another big factor that plays into people hating tourists is just general xenophobia. Japan for instance is still to this day one of the most xenophobic societies in the world. A lot of people have stereotypes about foreigners and tourists. People think that Americans are loud and obnoxious and disrespectful of local cultures, and indeed some clout chasers and big names like Logan Paul have ruined the reputations of tourists from certain countries. Hawaii too is quite xenophobic, especially indigenous Hawaiians, many of whom hate America and all outsiders and want their independence. A lot of anti immigration activists hate tourists just as they do immigrants, especially far right groups like AfD and Reform UK.

[@8xub331]

I dont think the afd hates tourists, I‘m looking out of my window and only see snow i dont think anyone would like to come here 😂😂

[@LLLemi]

Hotels occupy space that could be used for housing locals, also can increase prices around it. Not so difficult to understand. If you have enough hotels for the tourists you want to receive per year, more are not needed

[@MemTMCR]

currently on the beginning of a 2 week road trip. surprised to see a relevant hoser vid

[@xLeBang]

As a Dutch person I think it's a bit misleading mentioning those companies. Shell HQ was in Rotterdam (now London), ASML is in Delft, Prosus in Naaldwijk, Universal Music Group is in Hilversum. Other big companies like Nestlé are in Amstelveen and L'Oreal is in Hoofddorp. None of those count as 'income' to Amsterdam because they are simply not even in that city some of them you mention not even in the same province?? I also couldn't find a source where it states 1/7th of the Amsterdam income is from tourism, curious to see if anyone can link me.

[@LoliPolice-bf7mw]

Southern Italy would literally go into anarchy if tourists don't go there and get pickpocketed

[@alyctus]

I went to Italy and France in 2023. Places like the Vatican Museums and the Palace of the Versailles were absolutely packed. I understand they're very popular attractions. But they were so packed that you had to move very slowly by letting the crowd carry you. No room for roaming or time to pause to appreciate. In the Capella Sistina, there were guards yelling at people to keep moving to make space for the waves of people following. People spend money and travel from afar to be herded like sheep. When you reach that level, you have to reduce the amount of visitors somehow. Places like Santorini and Venice are even worse with tourism negatively affecting local people's living. In Santorini, the mayor told the locals to stay in their houses to accommodate the tourists! How much greedy can people get.

[@GodsCommandmentsAreTruth]

3:15... The EU made them stop with the $5 Euros to enter Venice. I was just there this past August and it was indeed crowded. I would have paid $100 to just enter Venice, so the $5 is really a joke. Btw... I paid $90 Euros for a 30 minute gondola ride. In Venice you just fork it over. There is no place like it in the world.

[@boblol1465]

i think the issue is with freedom of movement, and yea fair, they should make exceptions to that

[@ZacharyBelli]

Agreed, Venice is the only almost all tourist city I have been to that’s really worth it. Dubrovnik was a scam tho pretty, avoid it imo. Monaco is pretty good but $$$$$$ I’m going to Paris soon heard from a French speaking Canadian no less that they were rude, we’ll see.

[@KyrieFortune]

Those 5 euros stopped no one, those day Venice had a record number of tourists

[@Game_Hero]

@@ZacharyBelli Paris is recognized worlwide for being a city of rude people. Go to a charming countryside village in the mountains instead, you'll get more of it.

[@Didacmmv]

The issue with Overtourism to me comes from low value costumers that come en masse, have all expenses paid with nice packs from their tour operators that end up bringing the community a negative interest, I'm born and raised in Palma and we're tired of our infrastructure constantly failing to catch up with the surges in population and the increased criminality in the areas where these garbage tourists go. It's not that we don't want more Tourism, we want better tourists that provide more value and specially, particularly, reduce our seasonality. Politicians can't seem to grasp these things, neither are journalists. EDIT: We've had for 3 years a direct flight from the US to Palma, for the first time in history, but everyone that I talk to loves Americans, cause they come with expensive trips, want good food and spend good money in general, that's what the island needs, more money, better tourists.

[@mysterioanonymous3206]

@@Didacmmv to be honest, most of these destinations are desirable precisely because they are so cheap. If I want to spend 5k I can hop on a plane virtually anywhere, I don't think I'd fly to Palma. Everyone wants to climb up the value ladder, but very few can actually pull that off.

[@msergio0293]

lol, just say you want more money out of tourists, no need to write a bible

[@Didacmmv]

@@mysterioanonymous3206 I'm not saying everyone that comes in here must have an expensive trip, but if you cut on the cheapest most low value customers that actually are net negative and start bringing in people with longer stays and less tour operator packages the communities and the country would benefit more

[@Didacmmv]

@@msergio0293 Obviously that's the objective, if we have such demand and it's forever increasing at a certain point it stops being sustainable if we don't make it more profitable, we need bigger everything just for a few months of the year and that is not cheap or smart

[@shenhue7041]

Actually no. The problem is the rich tourists. They use resources, especially water and space. They have huge villas/golf courses in Mallorca, for example, with green areas that are empty 99% of the year. They buy the residents' houses and give nothing in return.

[@TheLacrox]

The thing about girona specifically, is one of the few places in spain where they implemented rent price limits, meaning that they can't go over a price set by the goverment. So you can imagine what happen when there is a supply issue in housing (due no building new houses and decline in rent places due the law) + a increase in demand (mainly due natives + tourist), the last stadistics made by the goverment said they increased house demand for each available place in rent by 4 times. Obviusly landlords moved they rent from normal housing to short duration/tourism, as with the current issue with squatters and lack of protection for private ownership, it will make sense to go the easy route and safe. It's a complicated issue, but spanish goverment just don't want to find a solution because is easier to just blame landlords and greedy banks, instead of just fix the supply issue.

[@RDíaz-j7f]

We do not hate tourists. It’s a small but vocal group

[@Victimxofxprogress]

People should go to Moldova instead. It's like the country with the fewest tourists in Europe

[@FederatedStatesofMicronesia]

yes they should

[@boblol1465]

yea and i wonder why...... lol

[@MilosVuksanovic-sj8kj]

i think ukraine have less unarmed turist

[@Samsung-1.9Cu.Ft.Microwave]

If you wanna see what most of the soviet union looked like, visit moldova

[@isakana4323]

I went to Rome this September and it was an awful experience due to the extreme amount of tourism. I’m Italian born in London and I was excited to visit Rome with my Italian best friend and we were majorly disappointed 😢 the first day we could barely hear anyone speak Italian that’s how many tourists there were

[@marty8895]

Scusa ma potevi benissimo visitare altre città meno turistiche. l'Italia ne è piena dio santo

[@grigorylebedev3283]

This is just a classical demand/supply problem. When you have an increased demand (aka tourists with MONEY), you don't try to cut it down. You try to increase your supply. So two most logical solutions: 1)let companies construct tall buildings on the outskirts of a city 2)let the hotels compete in the long-term accommodation market.

[@AnderGdeT]

The problem is that the supply is our city. And we don't want our city to be a sellable commodity

[@ianjones7488]

Not much space on the outskirts either. Barcelona is already built up to the boundaries with neighbouring towns such as Hospitalet or the hills form a natural boundary

[@Joe-cb6ex]

To reduce this to a simple "supply and demand" problem is absolutely ridiculous. A city has limited supply of land and limited resources. We can't keep expanding infinitely, you dolt.

[@OrangeNash]

The problem may solve itself in Spain, anyway, when the climate becomes too unpleasant. Might mean that Glasgow becomes the new Barcelona.

[@roxane1237]

I miss the old AirBnb. I used to rent my flat when going on holidays for a fair price and both parties were happy (allowing a family to stay in a fully equiped apartment in a very expensive city you mentioned in your video and me financing my holidays somewhere else). I rent my flat this summer again after covid and I got bad reviews because people expected a professionally rented flat and were upset that there were personal belongings in the flat as "somebody lives here " (unacceptable)! This happened twice! Now Airbnb means "luxury flat" rental instead of staying at people's place. It's too bad because it allows local people to make a few bucks during summer time but now it's only feeding professional rentals that steal homes.

[@paulupianne]

Although you make fairly good points I think you’re missing one of the main reasons why we complain. While tecnically the rise in tourism should increase our wages and lower our prices, that’s not happening. One of the main reasons is because the ones that get directly benefit from tourism don’t want to pay their workers proportionally, and also because most tourists nowadays prefer to spend their money on big corporations rather than local establishments. We feel like our cities are viewed as tourist attractions and we are treared as if we only exist to serve them. Moreover, most tourists where i live tend to litter our cities and disrespect us and our culture and expect everyone to accomodate to them. For anyone who’s planning to visit Spain; go to a hotel, visit local establishments instead of eating mcdonalds every single day of your stay, and remember that for you this place might be just a vacation spot, but for a lot of us it’s our home and while you’re partying in your airbnb, the next door neighbour is getting ready to go to work. They just don’t want to hear what we have to say.

[@ldkutellme]

Yeah it feels like the backlash against tourism is more a general backlash against falling living standards while the economy supposedly still grows