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@antarath517
@antarath517 8 ай бұрын
One of the big reasons you like your king on the opposite side of an attack is that you get to add pawns to your attack without degrading your king's defense structure.
@Self-ImprovementOnly
@Self-ImprovementOnly 8 ай бұрын
Yeah but it's very imbalance Cause Both side's do that and it's very hard to survive a flank
@antarath517
@antarath517 8 ай бұрын
@@Self-ImprovementOnly Yep! Opposite castling games get very bloody. Usually best to do that when you've already got an attack going.
@bosspoke
@bosspoke 8 ай бұрын
Thanks alot for reviewing my comment and other people's comments as well on the followup video. It is much appreciated! You're a very good teacher of chess, and I couldn't do it any better myself :-)
@wagle008
@wagle008 8 ай бұрын
It's great that questions from the previous video are being answered.
@basanoniem9280
@basanoniem9280 8 ай бұрын
This is a great concept. I hope you will make this a continuous series with lots of books
@haleymartin9342
@haleymartin9342 5 ай бұрын
Seconding this! I also have Chernev's 62 most instructive games and would love to see that one as well (but that's >1y long project haha)
@stuarthayward4756
@stuarthayward4756 8 ай бұрын
Nelson: this format is fantastic. Being able to read the book first makes your video lesson more effective in terms of understanding and memory retention. Please do post 1 game per week, outstanding content. Your explanation regarding the beginner's worry about back rank mate wrt game 1 makes so much sense. I never realised how damaging an early h3 could be in front of a castled king. Thank-you from Johannesburg, South Africa.
@JetLagRecords
@JetLagRecords 8 ай бұрын
Chess Vibes, This is fantastic! I subscribed right away!
@rawtrout007
@rawtrout007 8 ай бұрын
Nelson goes hard
@vitorrodriguez4278
@vitorrodriguez4278 8 ай бұрын
bot ?
@張謙-n3l
@張謙-n3l 8 ай бұрын
I've watched a video by GM Igor Smirnov which also explained why we should not push the h-pawn too early: in a lot of cases the f-pawn could be pinned by a bishop or a queen, so if h-pawn is pushed, we will lose control of the g3/g6 square and opens opportunity for the opponent to attack
@SeaPhoenix01
@SeaPhoenix01 8 ай бұрын
Hi Nelson, I remember reading Grau's books (an Argentinian master from XX century. Often considered the father of the competitive practise in this country) and in his book: "Tratado general de ajedrez" gives a method, a way of thinking of always asking "what category my opponent's move falls into?" Is a attack, a defensive move, a developing move or maybe it is a mistake. So when you stop and start thinking about it as a newbie or maybe even as a intermediate you grow stronger. In the last you made me remember that lesson. This series is highly informative and useful, thank you🎉
@davidjames149
@davidjames149 8 ай бұрын
very cool idea to categorize your opponents move
@kayakcobber524
@kayakcobber524 8 ай бұрын
I use SWOT for this Strength Weakness (my own moves) Opportunity Threat (opponents move) But guess we all have different methods to get some structure in this.
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 8 ай бұрын
Love this series Nelson! I just got my book in the mail today and am about to go back and rewatch episode 1. Thank you for putting this one together!
@EricaPani-uh5vr
@EricaPani-uh5vr 8 ай бұрын
I purchased the book and love it. Thank you. It also helps hearing you talk through the moves from your own understanding. Thanks again!
@NJDJ1986
@NJDJ1986 8 ай бұрын
I am loving the Logical Chess series so far!
@bennuendo
@bennuendo 8 ай бұрын
Love the series, and your explanation of each option at each step makes me a little smarter. Thx!
@emc-nk8ks
@emc-nk8ks 8 ай бұрын
You're awesome Nelson! Thanks for this series.
@orelas167
@orelas167 8 ай бұрын
That was a great explanation for why not the Queen first in Game 1. I wasn't expecting I would be able to understand it.
@andyclark8991
@andyclark8991 8 ай бұрын
Chess Vibes/Nelson You’re so cool and awesome. And that my friend is a massive massive understatement to you. The way you go into details with things is flippin awesome. Love your videos.
@jonathanyeru36
@jonathanyeru36 8 ай бұрын
Amazing! Looking forward to the next videos!
@davidmirman6929
@davidmirman6929 8 ай бұрын
Enjoying the book and enjoying the video series, thank you!
@johnsealy831
@johnsealy831 3 ай бұрын
When I first read this book, years ago, I cut a corner out of a 3x5 card, about 1/4" x 1/2". That way, I could read all of the information about the progress of the game, without being able to see the next move. Then, I would try to guess the next move before revealing it. This serves a number of purposes: it allows you to reinforce the fact that you are actually learning, plus, it strengthens your confidence in your ability to play. If you decided to make the same move as the former World Champion, using the same reasoning, you can be assured your understanding is improving.
@Lasidar
@Lasidar 8 ай бұрын
Great video! Really enjoying this bookclub series!
@karlbe8414
@karlbe8414 8 ай бұрын
Outstanding explanations and nuances about an outstanding game; Chess!
@dalkapur
@dalkapur 8 ай бұрын
So enjoying this. I have the book and can't resist to go through it. Already got to the 4th game, so I'm really happy you are doing these weekly.
@elimparable1
@elimparable1 8 ай бұрын
What a great series!! I am excited to watch the whole thing. 😊
@mr.fawcett8108
@mr.fawcett8108 8 ай бұрын
This is so good dude. Thank you Nelson! You are great at explaining to the mid-range players
@hasanali948
@hasanali948 8 ай бұрын
This video was extremely helpful. Thanks.
@mattotubo
@mattotubo 8 ай бұрын
Great Stuff Nelson! Thank you so much.
@iamErionシ
@iamErionシ 8 ай бұрын
on game 1 instead of going back with the bishop on a7 you can take the pawn on a5, if they capture back with the rook, you take with the knight and if they give a check with the queen on a4 trying to win the knight back then you just jump back with the knight on c6, blocking th check and you have a rook and a pawn for a bishop
@rawtrout007
@rawtrout007 8 ай бұрын
can you explain in fortnite terms
@TheEnergizer94
@TheEnergizer94 8 ай бұрын
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@vitorrodriguez4278
@vitorrodriguez4278 8 ай бұрын
@@rawtrout007 travis scott event
@Anirudh_Nagula
@Anirudh_Nagula 8 ай бұрын
I understand its a bit complicated.But here's the solution: As you said after Bxa5, Rxa5, Nxa5 and Qa4 as you pointed Nc6 back after Nc6 you can go d5 I belive and if b5 counter attacking the Queen You can take en passant And if you take the pawn back with the bishop you lose the Rook on a8. And in that position of you went Bd7 for example you just take the knight and I think it should be quite winning. And incase of Nxe4 you take the knight if bxc6 Qxc6 and it's a fork. There may be several mistakes in this I am not sure if there any It will be good to know. I am not that good at chess just an intermediate player and this wasn't easy as I should calculate without actually making any moves visually Thankyou
@Anirudh_Nagula
@Anirudh_Nagula 8 ай бұрын
If you're not clear with anything else ask me
@arthurestunperroquet3682
@arthurestunperroquet3682 8 ай бұрын
Great Series of chess teaching content you came up with, thank you very much!
@DrSchor
@DrSchor Ай бұрын
This is the book that was recommended to me by my high school chess club in 1971 a year before the fisher spassky game. I was only able to read the first game or two, have always kept the book , these 47 years, meaning to get to it. but I went to med school and that took up all my time. Now I am 70 and retired and going back to my high school hobbies. your video lessons are a nice surprise and very good.
@ld77abt
@ld77abt 8 ай бұрын
Nice 👍. Really appreciate that you decided to do this every week
@davidwendell6471
@davidwendell6471 8 ай бұрын
Awesome series! Thanks so much
@chriselcombe847
@chriselcombe847 8 ай бұрын
Loving this series. So glad youre going to one per week!
@MrAlanfalk73
@MrAlanfalk73 8 ай бұрын
One of the best chess videos I have seen. Thanks !
@jensgrossmann7222
@jensgrossmann7222 7 ай бұрын
Danke!
@ThorstensComment
@ThorstensComment 8 ай бұрын
I once saw a nice video from Anish Giri about the italian game. He mentioned that the h3 move is quite helpful to guard g4. But because of attacks like in this video it MUST NOT be played until black castled king side.
@vshasvin6868
@vshasvin6868 8 ай бұрын
QUESTION : In principle 5 . By losing our pawns material gets imbalance , the king gets exposed due to this and opponent can take advantage of it if our attack do not last long this may result in bad position in many cases
@dennisashley7319
@dennisashley7319 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@ChessVibesOfficial
@ChessVibesOfficial 8 ай бұрын
You bet!
@vmpire2864
@vmpire2864 8 ай бұрын
How to deal with a situation like in this position 19:03 you have black , you had castled on the kings side and white had pinned your knight with its dark bishop
@grahamdugan
@grahamdugan 8 ай бұрын
Just want you to know that you’re my son’s favorite.. he’s only 4 but he’s roughly 400 and so thanks for making content for chess players of all levels, it’s much appreciated!
@KettlebellMaxxin
@KettlebellMaxxin 5 ай бұрын
Nelson, this series is insanely good. Rating improvement has already happened after just 3 videos. When I have the momentum, I have been keen on finding moves that keep the pressure high. Bravo to you, bud! Hope your health (gout) has improved too. I have family members with that and it's no fun! Praying for you. 🙏
@yyyy-uv3po
@yyyy-uv3po 8 ай бұрын
Chess vibes delivering once again, this series will become a classic on YT!
@jarvisjones3164
@jarvisjones3164 8 ай бұрын
It's just nice that I discovered the channel at a crucial point. Mind blowing 💯 don't think I'll miss any drop onwards.
@southernrun9048
@southernrun9048 7 ай бұрын
Incredible job on these episodes. Just catching up but glad to have found the series on such an often recommended book.
@garrettmckuin7294
@garrettmckuin7294 8 ай бұрын
What a prescient video, this came out right before the Hikaru-Vidit candidates game. Nice job Nelson!
@navidrahmany299
@navidrahmany299 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for going over these games so well. I am learning a lot.
@rife133
@rife133 8 ай бұрын
bro alwways dropping bangers fr good stuff keep it up
@loriwillcox6260
@loriwillcox6260 7 ай бұрын
Great series! I'm finding it very interesting and helpful. Thank you!
@Llanchlo
@Llanchlo 8 ай бұрын
14:20 Why not play Qe7 first? Bb6 was because you expect white to go d4 but, if he plays a passive d3 (or something else), have you not wasted a tempo? Qe7 and Bb6 if d4 gets you the same result, but gives more options if d3. At this level I struggle to distinguish good prophylaxis from hope chess. For example (relevant to the is pawn h3 good issue) I tend to play Colle Zukertorte, and there is always a question of when h3 is good (depending on other B moves) to prevent an annoying Nb4 attacking the B on d3 in this Colle set up. The only obvious "No" is when B has played Nd7 so Nb4 is not a threat.
@thomaswdyoung
@thomaswdyoung 8 ай бұрын
This was my question too. It didn't end up costing black in the game because d4 happened, but it seems like it would've been better to develop instead, and keep Bb6 as a response to d4, rather than anticipating it.
@Llanchlo
@Llanchlo 8 ай бұрын
@@thomaswdyoungPerhaps he will comment next week - but I guess it is down to experience and recognising deeper strategic subteties. But it IS hard as a relative beginner. Another good example is when to push c4 (or c5 as black). I have lost count of the number of games where I push and the engine says 'bad move' but if I had done it on any of the previous 3 or 4 ( and somtimes then on several later moves) it would be have been excellent. I'm obviously missing something as in some cases I would clearly have a higher success rate if I tossed a coin rather than trying to work it out ...
@dannyorton2512
@dannyorton2512 8 ай бұрын
Might not be directly relatable, but today in the Hikaru Nakamura vs Vidit GujrathI game there was a h3 pawn move targeted in a similar way that lead to a black advantage
@VigneshDhakshinamoorthy
@VigneshDhakshinamoorthy 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great lessons Nelson. You are my favorite chess KZbinr! Just sharing as a friendly advice - All printed books will have disclaimer like “cannot reproduce in any shape or form, in parts or whole without permission” so please use your best judgment when deciding what content you make, how deep you get into it. In a way you are helping the book gain popularity, but publisher may feel you discourage purchase by sharing most of the principles here.
@bourbon_hound
@bourbon_hound 8 ай бұрын
Glad you brought up Q-G3 on first game. I discarded the move because I saw white had Q-F3 defended by the knight. This basically forces blacks queen away with tempo or a trade. But I completely missed K-A1. On the second game, the move I was trying to explore with white was after he took the pawn with B-H3. Instead of retreating the dark square bishop I was trying to move the light square bishop to C3 check. King has to go to D1 and can’t move - didn’t see a mate but seemed better than retreating.
@christopherheckman7957
@christopherheckman7957 8 ай бұрын
12:00 Knights can jump over pieces, so Principle 1 doesn't particularly apply to them. However, there is a variation for knights: Don't move your pawns where you want to put your knights! 12:47 This doesn't violate my previous comment, because White doesn't want to put his knight on c3. 13:59 Principle #3 from Game #1 was "These principles are great guideposts, but there are exceptions." 16:54 "A knight on the rim is grim; a knight in the corner is a go(r)ner." 27:58 And after g3, there's a mate in five. (NOW is the time for ... Rh8.)
@markosborn3079
@markosborn3079 8 ай бұрын
This is such a great series! Thanks
@Rohit-sp4iz
@Rohit-sp4iz 8 ай бұрын
28:18 What if Rf2 to protect the check, then if Bxf2+ , Qxf2 protecting the checkmate
@djoshkhol
@djoshkhol 3 ай бұрын
Nah if Rf2 that's Qg2 mate in one because the rook is pinned, so it can't protect the pawn
@harishbs3803
@harishbs3803 11 күн бұрын
Thank you for the video. Any play list created for this series?
@giacalonebuilding4443
@giacalonebuilding4443 5 ай бұрын
I got in a very similar situation from game one few days ago, there was way more pieces involved and I’d have to look back at the game review but I ended up offering to sacrifice the rook and stockfish said it was a brilliant move, was my highest rated game ever (96.7%). I’ve only been playing chess for 3 weeks and am only rated 700 so far. Love your videos! Also I did not take the bishop back with the g7 pawn, I moved my king to the corner. Again might have been slightly different setup and by the end we each had like 5 pieces in that corner plus the pawns
@bobbrdar6521
@bobbrdar6521 8 ай бұрын
Weekly is a good change. Saw Ep. 1 on Saturday, ordered the book and caught up. Looking forward to Ep. 3. BTW played a game where my opponent was 0-0 and played an early h3 - no bueno for my opponent. After game analysis - 2 Brilliant moves with the attack on h3.
@claudedupras2492
@claudedupras2492 4 ай бұрын
Love your teaching. I'm 400 500 playing, and at this lavel and lower people should keep playing when they lose their Quen .Checkmate is not when you lose it and you get better at the game playing whiteout it till Checkmate
@john-glennrivers9591
@john-glennrivers9591 8 ай бұрын
These are great but a consistent video title, maybe “Logical Chess” with Game 1, Game 2, etc, would be very helpful in going through these as we go through the book. Having to start all your videos to find the next one.
@linardsdavletsins69
@linardsdavletsins69 7 ай бұрын
Thanks you so much for tips your coli worked out so well. I really like how simple you explaing thing 😌
@hosseinfarahani3971
@hosseinfarahani3971 8 сағат бұрын
How in the world does Chess Vibes teach so well? I learn more from him than possibly any other chess youtuber.
@harishbs3803
@harishbs3803 11 күн бұрын
Finally found a youtube channel who teaches chess in more sensible way rather than asking to join classes. ❤
@linardsdavletsins69
@linardsdavletsins69 7 ай бұрын
Wanted add a picture as beautifull check mate, but sadly couldn't find it. I would say you are the best as making videos making so much sense, and not memorising moves but ideas how and why ❤️
@yifansun2596
@yifansun2596 8 ай бұрын
20:26 Question: is there an advantage to moving the h pawn if there’s no bishop pinning the f pawn?
@jackcityy718
@jackcityy718 6 ай бұрын
@18:35 can we also use rook e1 to defend that e4 pawn ?
@tofubrains
@tofubrains 8 ай бұрын
Around 8:00 mark re: castling on which side. Is it also valid reason if white's minor pieces like the bishops and knight are in a better position to attack the king side? ie: dark squared bishop is blocked by the pawns on queenside.
@jayantaphukon1472
@jayantaphukon1472 2 ай бұрын
Hii sir. First of all thank you for this series. This is one of the most informative videos available on chess, on KZbin. Well i have a say in the position in 28:32 where it's black to move and the move black did was queen to g3. My question is could we not sacrifice the rook i.e. Rh8×g2 ??
@AGPLAYZ17
@AGPLAYZ17 8 ай бұрын
HI Nelson just wanted to ask that there was a better move in Game one when Direct Qg3 was played without sacrificing the bishop Black had Qf6 which could be more effective. Tho loving the series 😀🎉
@williamsquires3070
@williamsquires3070 8 ай бұрын
One thing to consider when castling queen-side, is that your a-pawn is instantly weak as it has no king or rook to defend it, whereas if you castle king-side, your king now protects the h-pawn (if it hasn’t been moved yet.) 😊
@shohruhmusidov9339
@shohruhmusidov9339 6 ай бұрын
Nelson Mandella you are a great teacher
@TheEnergizer94
@TheEnergizer94 8 ай бұрын
It's scary putting your queen at capturing range of a pawn even if it's pinned. You're like "what if I didn't see some random bishop across the chessboard that can mess my plan up or what if I forgot the rules of chess"
@prithvisinghpanwar007
@prithvisinghpanwar007 8 ай бұрын
At last After Qh3 by black what if white plays g3?
@puzzician
@puzzician 8 ай бұрын
g3 is a very temporary, actually false, solution. The Queen is now safe and frees the rook for other ideas besides maintaining the pin. So then ...Rh8! and there is no longer an escape through f2: this time, when White tries f3 to make space for the King, g3 move has allowed the black Queen to communicate, through the **empty** g2, with the f2 escape route!
@박문주-u7s
@박문주-u7s 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much I've heard about the book but haven't had a chance to read it. Because of your "Book Club" series, finally, I am getting to know the classic.
@remcovanhartevelt588
@remcovanhartevelt588 7 ай бұрын
05:00 after the bishop sacrifice you could play Nf3 to atack the queen
@danielbillings1876
@danielbillings1876 8 ай бұрын
Thinking about a position from both the white and the black perspective is super helpful.
@laklsla
@laklsla 5 ай бұрын
Hi Nelson, thank you for sharing this very instructive principles and tactics. I wonder at 28:00 what is the follow up if white played pawn g2-g3? Is there a forced checkmate for black?
@djoshkhol
@djoshkhol 3 ай бұрын
Yes g3 still leads to forced checkmate after ...Rh8, there's not really anything white can do
@Citizen-pg8eu
@Citizen-pg8eu 8 ай бұрын
Are there any significant differences between the 1957 release of Logical Chess and the version you are teaching from? Amazon can’t deliver the current one until sometime in May, but the 1957 version will be here tomorrow, at half the price. I always enjoy and learn from your lessons! I need to brush up on my chess now that my sons are beating me on a regular basis, so I am going back to the basics to see where I went wrong. And my grandson is rapidly getting good; I can’t have him beating me!!
@bellfoozwell
@bellfoozwell 7 ай бұрын
There’s a good chance that the 1957 version uses descriptive notation, which is no problem if you’re comfortable with that.
@judahhessner8650
@judahhessner8650 8 ай бұрын
Nelson you have said the Queen is worse than a combination of 3 peices but in games the queen can overpower them when they are tangled and stuck defending eachother especially when rooks are involved or its in the endgame with fewer pawns to defend the pieces. What would you recommend to untangle them.
@pierrewertheimer4450
@pierrewertheimer4450 5 ай бұрын
12. g3 instead of hxg4 would have saved the game. Six great principles! Thanks! Great video!
@RoundElephant
@RoundElephant 3 ай бұрын
25:42 “very very *greedy* move” 😂
@Gidalyah-qq3ec
@Gidalyah-qq3ec 7 ай бұрын
At 6:00, after Qe2, why not ng4? It guards the pawn on e5, it guards the bishop, it threatens mate in one, and if white takes with the H pawn, Qh4 is also mate, and white can't capture with queen because of the bishop on c8.. Am I missing something? Almost seems too good to be true
@djoshkhol
@djoshkhol 3 ай бұрын
White responds with Nf3 which defends mate effectively
@prdoyle
@prdoyle 8 ай бұрын
If you don't move Ra3, then how do you deal with the bishop pinning the knight? I've been trying to avoid Ra3 lately and finding the pin pretty hard to deal with.
@MediaUncovered
@MediaUncovered 8 ай бұрын
What is a good method to disable pawn storms in whatever stage of the game?
@ShubhamSharma-cw3fd
@ShubhamSharma-cw3fd 8 ай бұрын
Why not taking the h3 pawn with the bishop? As we did in earlier video with white pieces?
@waddali9773
@waddali9773 8 ай бұрын
in 27:19 u could sacrifise the ROOOOOOOK and win the game . cus after kg2 u can Qa3 . i am 1200 elo btw
@paullanctot2710
@paullanctot2710 Күн бұрын
The first two games of the series break the principle of castle as soon as possible preferably in the king side, unless you are defending a threat
@JustGreendude45-vu4hg
@JustGreendude45-vu4hg 8 ай бұрын
16:54 Also one move threats aren’t good unless if you have a good reason to. Yes you attack the bishop but your knight is a goner after white moves the bishop and plays b4!! Goes to show that some people play tempting moves that actually don’t work out in your favor.
@JustGreendude45-vu4hg
@JustGreendude45-vu4hg 8 ай бұрын
EG, Trapping a piece, have a clear followup.
@Ghilji-w5f
@Ghilji-w5f 8 ай бұрын
I had one question regarding to h3 pawn. In the opening when our knight is in f3 and the opponent pins our knight with bishop shall we attack the opponent's bishop with h3 or how do you deal in this situation without moving the h pawn.
8 ай бұрын
7:30 why the long castle is the best move? I'd throw a check with a queen on g3 and continue with a fork Kxf2+. Are hidden threats here?
8 ай бұрын
Even better: bishop takes f2, forces rook to take back, then Qg3+, and checkmate next move.
@Fudaddy336
@Fudaddy336 7 ай бұрын
Definitely learning some end game tips
@davidjohannes2923
@davidjohannes2923 8 ай бұрын
What happens instead if rook blocks on the last example for white instead of queen takes bishop?
@byronwatkins2565
@byronwatkins2565 8 ай бұрын
At 11:00, so why do we want to play Ne5?
@zoklev
@zoklev 8 ай бұрын
isn't h3 in opening/middlegame sometimes good to stop black's pieces from going to g4?
@alaricmosesong
@alaricmosesong 21 күн бұрын
6:20 queen to G3 Bishop to f2 Bishop to h3 Queen to G2 Checkmate
@rexroyulada6267
@rexroyulada6267 8 ай бұрын
28:30 what if white moves pawn to g3?
@apurvkaushal6794
@apurvkaushal6794 8 ай бұрын
13:00 I feel like D5 is a great move after nf6 opening the bishop and if D4 you can just trade
@Horcauses
@Horcauses 8 ай бұрын
Me: “watches this video halfway and thinks he turned into Magnus Carlson” “Plays 2 rapid games” “Loses both of them” “Comes back to watch the full video”
@onred_
@onred_ 8 ай бұрын
I struggle to know when it’s a good time to push my flanking pawns, and I don’t know why it’s so good. I know it’s guarded by the rook, but often times it just feels like he’s marching up for a pawn trade. What long term strategies should I be considering when I push my flank pawns?
@louvoodoo
@louvoodoo 8 ай бұрын
Great video!
@danielandmariewalter
@danielandmariewalter 8 ай бұрын
Question: wasn't it bad that black started the attack before finishing development? Ok king in the center not too bad because the position was closed by d5, but the other minor pieces?
@coloripple
@coloripple 8 ай бұрын
this series made me subscribe after watching several videos of yours anyway
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