Had To File A Lawsuit Against Dealer For Bad PPI

[@superspeeders]

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[@arethouready]

Most lucrative job in the world is being Rob’s lawyers

[@brian5o]

.... or his auto body shop.

[@ete5706]

Rigatoni 3000!

[@minigpracing3068]

DWI lawyers probably make money money, more often. Often helping slime bags beat the charges, yes I got crashed by a drunk and he beat things down enough to be of little consequence to the wealthy jerk!

[@bbkGT3]

He sure does appear to have his share of problems. Life is hard enough and his businesses seem ripe with problematic customers and suppliers. The romance of the exotic car rental/tour operator/ KZbin influence professional/etc. is long gone. I can’t stress enough how we appreciate his honesty.

[@sloehr1974]

Having outclassed "Rob Spaghetti, his nickname evolves to "Rob Lawyergetti".

[@dougholdem2898]

All the dealer had to do was offer you 2X what you paid for the PPI and give you a 1 time opportunity to buy all the parts you needed to fix the car at wholesale and you probably would have taken the offer. Instead, two lawyers are being fed.

[@whackaify]

That would've actually been a perfect and respectable offer lol they basically lose nothing except a small fee and movement of parts while maintaining good standing with a customer as well as the community

[@carmelothegoat1892]

Dealerships are in the business of making money not making right by their customers

[@whackaify]

@Carmelo The Goat I worked at a dealership for a little bit as an advisor and hated being pushed to screw people over. I didn't last long lol or make a lot of money. Did it while I was in school.

[@johnnychimpo7539]

Yea it’s so stupid. Rob is a reasonable guy and Ferrari had the ability to meet him in the mirror easily. Now it’s a headache for everyone. Rob maybe player the lawyer card too early

[@superspeeders]

Any reasonable offer would have been a starting point. However, it's a full denial that they did a poor job, a very strange position to take given all the evidence to the contrary. Now I purchased a car I otherwise wouldn't have.

[@SkyyMi]

Thats so dissapointing to hear. As a technican for a brand that I will say is not quite a prestigous as ferrari but is still up there. I would potentialy be losing my job for missing such basic items during a saftey inspection. That dealership defintely collected the money and did nothing, what a sham.

[@cardinaloflannagancr8929]

Exactly and the shop could lose their license to do inspections even. Here they charge way more than a state safety inspection and don't stand behind it. Paying you double what you paid is just go away money. What if the rack seized and the car crashed, well we did give you $2k. Sorry about those broken limbs and 80k in damages..

[@muskokamike127]

That's the thing, they have NO skin in the game if he didn't end up buying the car or not. The more thorough they were, the better for them. UNLESS the seller of the vehicle was a good customer of the dealer's so they didn't want to piss HIM off.....

[@johnnychimpo7539]

This is bad for not only you but all of us. It’s just proof that even when you are a above average customer of a premium brand, they’ll still let you walk away pissed over the smallest things. Very few companies care about the customer, it really grinds my gears

[@EnriqueDominican]

Then Ferrari get upset when owners modified their vehicles.

[@johnnychimpo7539]

@@EnriqueDominicanya Ferrari have the tightest buttholes so kinda a bad example but this is the stuff that happens to us regular people all the time

[@muskokamike127]

It isn't the brand, it's the dealer. That's why they are called stealers....they didn't get that name for fun.....

[@drivewaymarvels311]

@@EnriqueDominican But if you buy the car in full. If it's your car. Can't you do what ever you want to do with it?

[@johnnychimpo7539]

@@muskokamike127 it is the brand. Ferrari will pay the dealers back for certain stuff like this. Maybe the dealer didn’t get Ferrari or North America involved at all but that would be very surprising. I’ve had issues with a bmw dealer and bmw NA gets involved and doesn’t do anything

[@zo2913]

Rob needs to make sure his son becomes a really good Lawyer that does pro bono stuff for his father. Because Rob is a Lawyers best friend.

[@cardinaloflannagancr8929]

So they charge $1100 for an inspection which according to them is worthless. Since at most a customer gets double the money back. No matter what injury or damage results from their error. Where as a shop doing a state inspection for say $20 could potentially be stripped of their license for ignoring something.

[@Gobbbbb]

Filing lawsuits, living the true American lifestyle 😂

[@matteightytwo]

I'm a Brit, but I totally understand there are some companies out there that provide such a bad service that you'd feel bad about yourself if you just left it

[@sflspotter6638]

You actually stated the Dealer in Florida that did the PPI. I just so happen to live 15 minutes away from said dealer. I won’t out them until someone else does. Good luck with the lawsuit.

[@smath5841]

Have u had previous poor dealings with them?

[@briangray5921]

Car rental business is a front for the law practice.

[@Tangelos]

Ferrari of FT L?

[@sflspotter6638]

@@Tangelos 🛎 🛎 🛎

[@Tangelos]

@@sflspotter6638 I’ve been a few times, including as a customer (on behalf of a client, but they had no way of knowing) and have found them to be the typical SoFL shade masters we kinda expect living down there. Went in a new X5M and they wouldn’t give me time of day on a used Lusso. Client wanted me to drive it then if I preferred it to the FF, help spec a new one (as this was early in the model cycle and new Lussos weren’t abundant and I had only driven an FF, not a Lusso). I was treated as if I was some kind of subhuman, mind you I was in nice clothes with a Seamaster on my wrist. Apparently they only cater to the extra large logo streetwear and iced out AP crowd

[@minigpracing3068]

You would think Ferrari might step in since this drags the entire dealer network down.

[@GLeszega]

Ferrari doesn’t gaf. They cut off a list celebrities from buying their cars if they modify them. They might even cut rob off for making this public.

[@Tangelos]

Screwing over customers is like Ferarris MO on the corporate and dealer level, they won’t do shit.

[@johnnychimpo7539]

@@GLeszegadefinitely. Watch them cancel his sf90 order

[@markhodge7]

GL Rob. Power to your lawyers.

[@johnnychimpo7539]

They are dead in the water. Their contract states the max they can recover. Ferrari covered their asses on this one

[@jongib6096]

This guy is a magnet for lawsuits 😂

[@RyanColby1225]

Didn't you name the dealer in the first video as Ferrari of fort Lauderdale

[@clivelittlewood]

Ferrari’s whole business model is based on ‘screw you, we are Ferrari and you should just pay up’ I have had extensive experience dealing with Ferrari owners and dealerships here in the UK and the song remains the same. If you dare to question their unscrupulous business practices they cancel your future orders, won’t work on your cars going forward and never admit they are at fault until forced to do so by litigation. Don’t expect any kind of resolution until this actually goes to court and then, on the day, you will maybe get an offer if you sign to keep your mouth shut… don’t do it, stand your ground and out these ridiculous practices by these arrogant people who quite honestly should know better. They get away with abominable rates and charges with a ridiculous lack of ‘customer service’ far too many times and should be called out on this at every opportunity, until someone at Ferrari realises that this is just no way to run a company. Best of luck!

[@themoyouknoww]

In this episode, Mr. Spaghetti hires some cooks to get some cheese for a poorly inspected meatball!

[@genric_sloth971]

Why does it look like the front end is two different reds?

[@madsmokey791]

I noticed that as well. The car was wrecked and has a aftermarket speciale front bumper and who ever painted the car did a piss poor job matching the paint

[@muskokamike127]

The crazy thing with the PPI inspection is: there's no skin off their balls if they find a bunch of things wrong and you don't buy the car, they were paid to find issues and you'd think the more they found, the happier a customer (with them) you'd be. Unless of course the person who was SELLING you the car, was a good customer of theirs. "hey this guy is bringing my car in for a PPI, here's $4000 to "miss" a bunch of things". If someone was paying ME $1300 to do an inspection I'd make not of every paint blemish, stripped screw head or sticky button on the car.....

[@trentland]

The best attorney is the one that keeps you OUT of court. Sometimes there is no other option.

[@zz-.-]

They have been doing this to customers for years and Ferrari turns a blind eye. Get ‘‘‘em Rob, don’t let up 👌

[@blahblah-js5ux]

we're rooting for you Rob, you're gonna be rewarded

[@canadiankrispybacon]

So..what the dealer is saying..our inspections are essentially worthless and you should have no confidence in a service they’ve selling ..that’s supposed to provide confidence to the customer who is buying the car 🤔

[@kauldercage5469]

if that dealership will do it to a returning buyer like you, think how they will cheat and abuse a first time buyer...

[@SpontaneityJD]

Name. The. Dealership. 🎉🎉

[@1jiveturkey1]

Today, Mr. Spaghetti hires Meatball and Associates to sue the ferrambo ristorante.

[@pfiz8510]

The color match from the front fenders/ hood to quarter panel is very noticeable

[@mindreader1975]

Agreed. Was looking for this comment. thanks

[@UltraMagnis]

I've just been through this for 2 cars and a boat. The boat was listing to the side. Had to get a naval architect to Dona full report and get lawyers invloved before they would entertain a buy back. It shouldn't be that hard these days. If it's faulty or not what was promised then they should refund... 2 new cars and a new boat. Lawyers invloved in 2 of them. One I sold it onto someone who wanted the fight. At a discount of course and I did that because I couldn't be assed going through the process once again. It makes me so wary of new cars. Second hand I can accept a few issues

[@SHADOWBLACKs650]

That car has sheetrock screws holding on the front splitter, I don't have a Ferrari, but I'm pretty sure that's not how they do it.

[@chasedusina]

THIS IS A WRECK CAR! THE HOOD AN D BUMPER ARE A DARKER RED THAN THE QUARTER PANEL AND BACK END OF THE CAR. 8:35 !!!!!!

[@arethouready]

This car seems like it’s had a rough life. I’d hate for this to be “the one” in terms of 458 you plan on keeping around

[@hjbrinkmann1s]

If there was an emergency, how long would it take to get every car out of your storage garage?

[@---Fred---]

the bumper color and fender color dont even match !

[@Iowa21]

Hard to match paint in cloudy joyzee

[@superhawk20002]

When it rains, it pours... sometimes its just lawsuits and all the money the attorneys will make. Good luck with the Ferrari. Something seems odd with the way it was fixed and the dealership negligence.

[@erik548]

did you notice the nose has been repainted.... a different color

[@robertburt8922]

Gives me confidence to stay away from Ferrari, nothing but horror stories dealing with them.

[@sp33dou]

Just buy an older model which you can repair on your own and buy cheap Fiat spareparts from Maranello during your vacation trip.

[@Hogdriva]

Eager to hear how this goes. Seems like Spagetti always has a lawsuit brewing.

[@cfc1001001cfc]

Video starts at 2:33

[@jessesteeltown]

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[@vprwave]

What a mess, sorry to hear. Meanwhile Dan, from the Normalguysupercar channel, drives your salvaged rental 458 around happily. Even his Ferrari repair guru said that car was obviously well maintained.and drives great, given the tough life it had so far.

[@RossEnzo]

But also the dealership model is dying for a reason. These people are desperate and are clawing at anything they can retain, you didn’t buy a good one still. You can’t trust anyone, you didn’t do your do diligence. Miller and Plainview are always decent. Jersey! Not a good look.

[@HollywoodMechanic]

Dealers have always gotten away without litigation. Like, lifetime transmission fluid. Ferrari has no service recommendation for even your ferrari here. That's bs. Fluids are not lifetime products. Even Getrag, who makes the transmission has a service interval recommendation. Withholding that info could be criminal.

[@thenowandaway1]

Ferrari Ft Lauderdale, FL

[@xlrators5378]

So is it safe to say your preorders will be cancelled somehow?

[@shadow.banned]

Looks like a nightmare industry to wade through, honestly.

[@carmelothegoat1892]

Damn Rob’s new hair looks pretty good 👍

[@captcory]

sorry it's very similar to a home inspection. you hope they find everything wrong, but in the small print they are not responsible if they missed something. remember the old adage...If you want something done right, do it your self.

[@John1911]

The number 1 problem with Ferrari is the entire eco-system in which the brand now lives. The entire space is filled with scammers, liars, roll-backs and dirty deals. I guess Ferrari must be OK with this or is just resigned to it. Because it is sooooo common. Barf.

[@powergrower]

I am looking at getting my first super car and Ferrari was a consideration. But after learning more about them I honestly lost interest. I know this is more a dealer issue but still... the whole proccess of buying a Ferrari just annoys me. It's no wonder Lamborghini was started.

[@chasedusina]

Pull up 8:35. The bumper is now the same color as the quarter panel. Perhaps its a video or lighting issue but that doesn't look right to me. I feel like this car has even more stories than what you are uncovering.

[@chasedusina]

NOT

[@MrYlijumala]

How the hell did I last night watch the first part of this and wondered if there is any updates regarding this PPI. And then BAM less than 24 hours later an update!

[@cheetah1344]

Agree with you 100%. F these people. A ppi should've brought up if not everything atleast 50% of the probs.

[@b2lamborgini]

Yea and as he said even if it was just a safety inspection the tires and rack weren't road legal

[@TOM-C.]

It should have brought everything to the forefront as that's what a PPI is for! Nothing should have been missed, but they charged rob for a full PPI, and then come back with we don't do PPI's. Then why did you charge me for one? The dealer will pay through the nose for this one which is why they are righting it! 😎✌

[@chuckswhip]

Those guys are real pricks for treating Rob like that! Essentially giving Rob the raw deal on that car cause they were helping another one of there customers out by passing the car so he could sell it to Rob and buy another vehicle from them Guarantee that’s wat happened!!!!!!🤦‍♂️

[@TOM-C.]

The dealer has obviously not watched any of your vlogs to get an idea of who they're dealing with. I'd trust you with my bank account if I had any money in it! 😁 The dealer is way off base, and the person who signed off on the inspection should be given more training, and should likely be fired or moved to a position that won't require paying people off when he makes another mistake. Good luck Rob, look forward to the outcome which I'm certain will result in the dealer covering most of the repairs if not all!😎👍✌☃🎄🤶🎄

[@sloehr1974]

Ive got two questions Ive been pondering, and these are coming out of genuine curiosity. First, would it do any good to approach Ferrari and show them what two of their dealerships are trying to pull? Im sure that Ferrari has dealer standards like Lincoln, Lexus, McLaren and all other "Premium brand" OEMs. and theirs are likely leaps and bounds above the others in regards to white gloving them to death. Question two, and somewhat related to the whole "white glove up the you know what" category, why are you such a Ferrari person when its widely known how much of a PITA they are in their "ownership standards" for lack of a better term at this time..... so much so that Jay Leno for example wont touch them with a 10 foot pole?

[@TheCobruhAlienat0r]

I dunno if they should pay what it cost to bring the car back to show room quality but they definitely should pay the difference between what you paid and what a car in that condition would be worth if you were interested in a fixer upper,and refund what your paid them to do the PPI.

[@jamesnj3454]

I hate the drama of legal problems. I dable in real estate and there's always a problem with realtors, inspections and attorneys.

[@paulberman1979]

tell us when it goes up 4 sale

[@doggedlydetermined7022]

Hey Rob, any plan getting one of the new Range Rovers?

[@peterkeller7357]

Is the front bumper a slightly different shade then the body?

[@theoocahain7780]

🙂 Thank you for your time, Rob. What is the latest news concerning the bad PPI done on your 458 by the Ferrari dealer?

[@amg.melvin]

Is it me or does the front bumper have a different shade of red compared to the front quarter panel? 5:27 on video.

[@TVCHLORD]

today mr spaghetti sues the supermarket that sold him his pasta

[@nicooolito]

Rob, at 4:50 damn the color diff would kill me on fender vs bumper

[@GnadFlea]

"When you know how to buy cars..." lol! It's a Rebuilt Titled vehicle. That should have been a definitive red flag that the PPI needed to have been done expeditiously and scrupulously. The fact that these defects weren't discovered and brought to anyone's attention reflect poorly on the seller. That said, the $70,000 below Wholesale selling price is likely why they're digging their heels in the sand and not making an effort to work this out. Not saying it's right, just saying there's a reason most people avoid rebuilders/salvage titled cars, like a plague.

[@wheelsandwatches]

Businesses prove their worth when dealing with issues. Shame it went this way.

[@richard_red_64]

Last I checked Upside NO GOOD in Jersey...

[@wolfmanradio]

Because it states in the contract that the dealer/inspection provider is only liable for up to 2X the price of the PPI, unfortunately it looks like Rob will probably be sunk on this one. The judge could say that client should have read the contract, and if the terms were found to be unacceptable then Rob should have contracted another inspection provider with more agreeable terms. Sometimes, what’s legal isn’t always what’s right. This proves the importance of reading the fine print, especially when there’s potential for significant financial loss.

[@Shrekasourus]

Could he sue for safety hazards? If he is paying to make sure the car is safe and they lie about it wouldn't that be fraud? Or if someone got hurt wouldn't they be liable for more money?

[@wolfmanradio]

@@Shrekasourus Without seeing the actual contract, and with the limited details in this video, it’s difficult to say what all the dealer could be liable for. There’s no doubt that fraud has been committed, but the dealer may only be liable for 2X the price of the PPI in this case. If injury or death had occurred, due to the dealer’s negligence, the case would go to a higher court. If the dealer was found responsible for injury or loss of life, judgement(s) would be based on precedent. No clause can grant the contract issuer legal immunity for injury or loss of life caused by negligence.

[@brianiswrong]

Regardless off the price small print, it is reasonable to expect a proficient job be done for an exchange of payment, you can't just draw up a t&c section that absolves you of all responsibility for the trade you have charged for.

[@wolfmanradio]

@@brianiswrong They admitted to their job not being proficient, which is why Rob was refunded the cost of the PPI. The issue is their financial liability, which according to the contract that Rob agreed to by signing, is no more than twice the price of the PPI. I agreed with you that companies shouldn’t be allowed to write up contracts absolving them of financial responsibility when losses are incurred due to the standard of service not being provided. The Law is an ever evolving process, just like the society it serves.

[@somenygaard]

Why have a $1000+ inspection that isn’t comprehensive and misses serious safety issues?

[@turbokid99]

Mr Spaghetti sues Mr Fettuccine for a new PPF

[@luizbruno2010]

No not PPF 😂

[@nohandleisagoodhandle]

Good luck, Rob. Hopefully things are made right and this isn't a drawn out thing. Happy Thanksgiving.

[@lear60man]

Did they offer to unwind the deal?

[@montevallomustang]

This is why we don't do ppi's at my shop or it's the main reason. Obviously this is an extreme case but it's extremely hard to find every single problem with a car in the hour or so you have to look at it. Modern cars are so complicated and the obd system sometimes takes over 100 miles to show a fault

[@sparkzbarca]

They charged 1,050 dollars. I hope if I paid that I'd get more than one hour labor :p

[@Phil99six]

And this lawsuit is the reason more shops will stop doing PPIs.

[@Tangelos]

I think this is a 6-8hr inspection allegedly

[@johnnychimpo7539]

That’s a bunch of bs. The shop by me will find every single thing wrong with a car if you give them $1000. They’ll do a full inspection if I get an oil change. It’s not hard to do when they work on the same cars every single day and they have a lift

[@Tangelos]

@@johnnychimpo7539 100% having run a shop we did oil change and a super thorough inspection in max hour and a half, and that is just charging for the oil change vs a full PPI. In a 4-8 hour just inspection they should’ve caught all this, clearly they took the money scanned it and maybe racked it up to check for any obvious leaks through the under trays and everything else was “out of sight and out of mind” while they collected a free $1,100.

[@kindvegasbuds3726]

Good luck , unfortunately this happens often with any kind of pre owned vehicles . dealerships alays try to hide things or take advantage of people

[@xclusivekid123]

Is it just me? But in the video it looks like the paint doesn’t match from the bumper flowing into the fender.. Maybe it’s just the lighting but that’s what it looks like.. I hope it works out for you 💪🏼💪🏼

[@jamieformosa7302]

more lawsuits than Billy Mitchell lol

[@crazymike401]

So now more info comes out. You didn’t even pay for a ppi? You paid for a safety inspection?? What did you sign and give your credit card uo for exactly?

[@drivenbydk1745]

I know this isn't the point of the video and I truly hope you resolve this issue, but damn is the paint match on that front bumper absolutely horrible

[@TheCobruhAlienat0r]

Is there no recourse with the seller for misrepresenting the car? Or does "used, as is" cover their ass?

[@spmadeez]

Is the dealer on route 4? Close to Millenia Mall?

[@songlu2966]

any updates?

[@smerfylubie8263]

any follow up?

[@daveselbow9128]

that 'we don't do trust falls' funny rob...

[@Dragon228833]

Keep us posted 🫡

[@amg863]

This is why I never liked Ferrari. Pompous people selling cars to guys who brag about how few miles they put on them. I'm too poor to own one but Jay Leno is the biggest car guy in the world and he doesn't own any because he feels the same way

[@Tangelos]

He doesn’t like the corporate/dealer attitude, he likes the cars

[@EddieIrvine106]

It was unexscusable what they did. They totally failed to do their job. You would have thought that they would have been keen to find problem in the hoope of you negotiating down the price with the seller and them getting the repair work

[@Fedgery007]

Still not sure how Rob makes any money in this business.

[@SupraMane69]

Yea they need to learn not to half ass ppi's.... they said they would have our back and they didn't even look

[@themanironmask]

You hate the drama but 90% of your channel is drama hahahaha but it makes for good content, that is why we are here. Best of luck.

[@USDC-L-GeoDB-CDO-SYNTHETICS]

Just cause you said it won't be sealed to me means the Case may become sealed for the protection of the dealer's reputation.

[@TheKicksBoy]

What happens when you try to buy a cheap Ferrari

[@AndyMac508]

I was wondering what happened with this. GET EM ROB

[@prospectla6316]

What was the name of the shop that did the PPI again?

[@ddutsie]

Something smells about this vehicle

[@Bwill-hn2pc]

FUE looks great

[@joelelizondo4445]

I want to know more about your rental in Las Vegas that went sour

[@SuperTomcatUk]

Rob you should name the dealership please. So they cant take another buyer for a ride....

[@andriesmuller4152]

They might as well close down.... Rob has a huge following.

[@ESPSJ]

Name and shame, stuff them lol. They deserve it at this point.

[@alankowalski8781]

Unfortunately, unless money is involved and you taking it from them, they never learn

[@WeBePwning]

Today Mr. Spaghetti has been over cooking his noodles!!!!

[@pmtrans]

Today Mr Spaghetti, paid for spicy meatballs, and expects to receive spicy meat balls!

[@JasonDFD3S]

I wonder what it is costing him for his attorney?

[@RealNickTheCoolest]

Maybe it’s the video, but the front bumper appears to be a darker shade of red.