The Dino 246 and 308 GT4 Were Not "Less-Than" Ferraris - Revelations with Jason Cammisa Ep. 31

[@alanngli]

17:37 “I never thought a son could leave his father a legacy, but my son did” So much pain and emotion summed up in so little words.

[@rudrakshmishra2761]

I cried when he said that

[@manuelquiroga7994]

@@rudrakshmishra2761 Me too.

[@nirbhayatiwari5425]

Yup brother ..

[@joecutro7318]

Same here😢

[@alanngli]

Same here. I should add I also had tears of joy, because as a father, I understand how proud he was of his son. A life cut short, but well lived.

[@burtonjim0254]

I simply cannot overstate how awesome Cammisa's "Revelations" series is. The only thing wrong with them is there aren't more of them.

[@stanza77]

He’d be able to do more if he didn’t have to have an example of the car in question in the studio for shooting, then do the driving clip at the end…. id guess that’s the limiting factor

[@farishanafiah8461]

​@@stanza77I don't want to see more car KZbinrs just doing the talking in front of the mic like Aidan Millward. I want to see more of Jason/Hagerty and JayEmm On Cars, those are more realistic.

[@thegearknobs1058]

Another tidbit that ads to the Dino legacy, according to Carol Shelby, who considered Dino a close friend, Dino cared far more about road going sports cars than his father, so it's absolutely fitting that 2 of the best driving Ferrari road cars of all time bear his name. To quote old man Shelby, "...I sometimes dream about a world where Dino lived longer, in that world, Ferrari road cars might very well have lived up to their legend."

[@donnycorn3086]

shed a tear reading about this.

[@AI-qd4vb]

Funny guy that Shelby. Ferrari road cars ended up far surpassing their legend while he could never emancipate and be more than a factory tunner.

[@donnycorn3086]

@@AI-qd4vb Shelby may be just a factory runner, but he's well humble enough. The Cobra will always be Cobra and for what it is, I see Shelby and then-Ferrari as friends of its time. And also, his legacy never stuck with just his brand. The Ford Mustang you know today would have never existed without him, and the GT40/GT, and the Cobra's spiritual successor, Dodge Viper. Now tell me how funny it is to have that much of a legacy of his as just a factory runner.

[@JorgeChavez-du5vm]

@@AI-qd4vb Lol any and every car here touched became incredible. Don't forget he was the one who conceptualized the Dodge Viper (couldn't call it Cobra for obvious reasons but still gave it a snake name).

[@JorgeChavez-du5vm]

@@donnycorn3086 The man pissed pure unadulterated greatness and there's helium heads still hating, which says it all.

[@montlejohnbojangles8937]

I love that Jason's job has basically become "Re-educating the public on dumb stories Jeremy Clarkson once told".

[@farishanafiah8461]

Not gonna make any difference since most people, especially the hardcore CHM/TGT fanboys, always believe with Clarkson.

[@Specproof]

@@farishanafiah8461 You deserve an award for this comment! Made my day!

[@Frostfly]

I'm of the Opinion that Camissa is the Closest thing we'll see to another Clarkson, he's got the flair and the knowledge and lacks the majority of the problematic stuff. He's just a brilliant entertainer.

[@guitarzzero]

When did Top Gear do a bio on either the Dino or 308? I remember Hammonds yellow one on the Slough run, and Clarkson raced that Skoda against the GTO. Camissas’ docs are pretty original there mate!

[@devandrasimanjuntak1646]

@@guitarzzeroit was that cheap Supercar challenge where Hammond had a 308 GT4. Clarkson was the one that said that they named it Dino because it was slow. Kinda funny to the general public until you learn the actual history like this video did.

[@JuanHernandez-pz2mx]

Jason is, bar none, the best automotive presenter in the internet; thanks for this episode, and for the Revelations series!

[@jradish]

agreed

[@ohexra]

i dont think you heard of jeremy clarkson

[@farishanafiah8461]

​@@ohexraIn the olden days, I'd pick Jeremy over Jason. Not anymore this day, especially with the current TGT era.

[@AI-qd4vb]

@@ohexra Clarkson was an entertainer. Still is actually. His automotive insights were inaccurate to put it mildly. UK has loads of better car reviewers than him. Tiff Needell was far superior in FG for starters.

[@S8ER]

@@ohexra Clarkson was entertaining but I don't even watch him anymore and I don't believe he has ever held the integrity that Cammisa does. Cammisa over Clarkson all day, every day.

[@alaskaoe]

I remember the first time I ever saw a Dino, it was with my father. He explained to me that it wasn't "really" a Ferrari, though I most certainly could tell by looks alone that it was. I am flying out tonight for my fathers celebration of life and can't express how wonderful the timing of this Revelations is. Thank you Jason.

[@car_pal]

Revelations videos are the only ones I watch in fullscreen mode on my pc

[@InitiateDee]

Oddly relatable

[@Tmrfe0962]

They’re even better on my TV

[@leemichaelgeller4420]

These are the ones I watch on a 70 inch TV. The wife loves them even more…

[@JK061996]

The aspect ratio is perfect for a modern widescreen phone

[@Alexandrepenim]

SAME HERE. high quality content and entertainment from a guy that can drive and understands fun from cars, whether costly or affordable.

[@TheLuisg92]

That bit about Enzo growing old with a dead son and his son leaving him a legacy, was both sublime and devastating.

[@benjaminmatute9085]

Finally someone who gave the Dino the recognition it deserved. Thank you Jason.

[@poplaurentiu4148]

That is for US market because in Europe we all already knew the story..

[@benjaminmatute9085]

@@poplaurentiu4148 Wait, you guys knew all along???

[@poplaurentiu4148]

@@benjaminmatute9085 Well not just those who lived in italy, but plenty people from different countries of Europe infected with microfobia of any fresh news for cars/racing cars/etc - (yep it was and apparently for some still is quite a spread disease), so many knew plenty bits to picture a more clear image but J.Camisa managed to tell the story here in a much more positive way..

[@benjaminmatute9085]

@@poplaurentiu4148 Ah, thanks for the info!

[@Rahel_Rashid]

As amazing as this episode was, your revelations about Enzo's emotions towards his son really hit home for me. I don't have a kid but makes my heart tremble for my father! I honestly appreciate it!

[@frankcava8073]

Great video. I have to say that I completely understand Enzo’s depth of grief and pain over the loss of his son Alfredino. My son died on Dec 26th 2020. That pain never ever goes away. It may subside a little but it NEVER goes away.

[@Bobisuruncle54]

Sorry for your loss.

[@familialgameaholics7618]

Condolences to you for your loss.

[@avmelidor]

Deepest condolences to all

[@avmelidor]

My all time fave Ferraris

[@RafitoOoO]

No father should ever have to bury their children. Hope you find peace, my friend.

[@georgidimitrov5225]

The story of Enzo's son hit me like a truck, being a father myself. And as always, thank you and keep up the fantastic work, Jason!

[@joaopedrojuannespraxedes6158]

18:23 There’s no better reward to watch a full length video than these. The hairs on the back of my neck stood up just by hearing and watching these machines. Thank you all for your insight and understanding of car guys.

[@patrickdgarez86]

Man, do you guys like to keep us desperate for this incredible content. I feel like a toddler on Christmas day whenever a new episode pops into my feed. As a father of a 22 year old boy, I can't even comprehend the insurmountable pain of such a crushing loss. While nothing can assuage the sorrow, the original Dino is just heart achingly beautiful and such a stunning tribute to a young man taken so soon. Hats off to Hagerty, Jason and the crew for these videos that should be kept in an archive for future generations.

[@adriangraham1823]

Jason Cammisa has to be one of the most underrated journalist in my opinion. The way he can mess around and still delivery 100% facts without producing crummy content. Keep it up man! Been watching this guy since high-school lol makes me miss when motor-trend wasn’t trying to be so trendy. Always wanting more of this series lol👀

[@AlexTenThousand]

"It was the winter of 1918-1919, extremely rigid, I remember it with great sorrow. I was on the streets, clothes freezing solid on me. Walking through Parco del Valentino, after brushing away the snow with my hand, I let myself go on a bench. I was alone, my father and brother were no more. Despondency won me, and I cried" (Enzo Ferrari, on being rejected by FIAT) The name "Dino" meant everything to Ferrari. It was the legacy of his family, and in many ways, the way forward for the company he had poured his heart and soul into. With FIAT's backing, the company that had once rejected him, it meant that Scuderia Ferrari was safe and the work of his lifetime would go on. It was one last farewell to his son.

[@alanngli]

Jason is the only guy where I think hard before clicking, because I need to make sure I allocate quality time to enjoy his work.

[@alexliu8517]

Stoked to see Cammisa's own 308 GT4 get an episode for itself! Keep the incredible content up, always makes my day to see a new episode in my feed

[@zacharystokes]

Yessss!!! But seeing him wrestle that beauty on tight canyon roads in fog with no guardrails gives me anxiety!

[@dbcarillustrations]

At 16:51, It's something simple, but for me as a car fan it's an honor that my illustrations have appeared in a video of yours. I appreciate that you have put a mention, (although it has a typographical error, CBCarillustrations instead of the real DBCarillustrations, but it is understood that they wanted to do it, this really made my day a lot. Gettings from Chile 😊

[@cristiancovaci9821]

The car world without Jason , I don’t even want to imagine that…

[@xprettylightsx]

The car world wouldn’t survive

[@pimpovic2]

You mean elegant Jerry Lewis? 😅

[@griffins5655]

@@pimpovic2HEY! THATS DISCOUNT ADAM SANDLER TO YOU! Show the man some respect! 😂

[@TheConceptarchitect]

The pinnacle of automotive journalism. I really like how the storyline ended with the son's legacy bit.

[@LordLiquidBaconII]

I kept thinking about this when Jason talked about it on the Carmudgeon show and oh boy did that quote by Enzo Ferrari hit hard. Thank you Jason for another amazing Revelations episode

[@dirtysanchez330]

Another brilliant Revelations episode. Could listen to Jason all day. This has become my favourite car series on KZbin by far

[@adrianbene6733]

As a carmudgeon show watcher I was looking forward to this episode ♥️

[@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT]

A man of culture 😊😎

[@Poorschedriver]

Advertising the Hagerty Driver's Club & roadside assistance using the newly acquired Rover in the background was a nice touch

[@artysanmobile]

I’ve never enjoyed any Ferrari presentation more than this, Jason. Letting the driving music speak last is brilliant.

[@sltillim]

Smile coming from a Dino family from 206sp that won targa florio , 246gts and my current GT4 the I was brought home in from the hospital when I was born! Thanks Jason (and hyphen for bringing that car to you)

[@noobFab]

One of VERY few professional grade TV shows on KZbin. Jason is an American treasure!

[@justaguy9681]

As usual masterful production, writing and presentation by the Hagerty team and Jason You cannot pump out videos fast enough, insane content

[@mnejmantowicz]

Great storytelling and editing. Hagerty, if you’re listening, give this team a raise! Every episode is better than the previous.

[@akshaysankarshana2405]

The V6 sounds really good from the camera on the Trunk Lid, under which the engine resides..... The V8, like Jason said in the podcast, sounds like a 4-cyl but a really good 4-cyl, and to me it sounds like a Honda Sports Car 4-cyl without V-TEC and a screaming high redline. Incredible work on the story, Jason, respect your and your team's effort behind the scenes that you put into reading through a lot of articles, books magazines and presenting it in a humorous yet informational way to the public. All that said, for what ducking reason did you stop Know It All? We all loved it, cos we got to learn and laugh through each one of those short videos that we get to learn important stuff that we'd have never learnt otherwise... And the icing on that cake is the way you explained everything... Simple language, easy to understand, funny enough sometimes to remember for a whole lifetime. All I ask for is to bring it back, because, that's probably the only way I'd love to learn car stuff while laugh till i get a stomach ache. Appreciate your effort guys!

[@nickscapellato8248]

I never realized how much Dino there is in the rear 3/4s of the early C3 Vettes with the concave rear window and buttresses, haunches, and split bumpers. ALSO - great history as always Jason!

[@Yourmission9]

Great video! Loved the story, really makes me wish I’d purchased a Dino 10 years ago when they were relatively affordable

[@ELFKidsVideos]

This is some of the best automotive content available. Fantastic writing and information. Thank you for all the effort. It’s really appreciated.

[@1SaG]

To this day I still cringe when I re-watch that TG Cheap Italian Supercars bit and JC starts going on about how Hammond's car "isn't truly a Ferrari". First off, he's driving, more or less, a Citroen with a Maserati-badge in that film (gorgeous car, all the same), so he shouldn't be talking about badges. Secondly, it could say "Super Mario" on the badge of both the 308 GT4 and the 246 and they'd still be awesome cars. Plus: Hasn't the 246 been one of the most desirable vintage Ferraris, fetching ridiculous prices since ... forever? OTOH, I just checked current GT4 prices and those haven't *really* budged all that much since TG made that film. Even 3-liter examples in very good condition (judging from the pics and descriptions) can be had for 40k to 70k over here in Europe. It might sound a bit silly, but maybe that's precisely because of that TG-film where we were being told that the GT4 was "the wrong car". Oh, and lastly: Let's not forget which car in that film was in the best ... err.. least worst shape and did last the longest and that when it went out, it didn't suffer a disintegrating engine. I seem to remember that Hammond bought that car off the production company afterwards and restored and kept it. The Maserati OTOH went to a scrap-yard dealer - I do remember finding it for sale on their website back in the day and they did, BTW, confirm that it was an actual SS, not a regular Merak with an SS-badge.

[@pyridonfaltis9761]

It's almost as if real car enthusiasts don't take what Clarkson says as the absolute truth. Sadly, I don't think that was even the purpose of the original Top Gear. It's blindingly obvious that the viewers were expected to take everything said (by any of them!) with a pinch of salt. Sadly, not everyone did, and are taking what Clarkson said as the undeniable truth.

[@larryplympton9727]

Hagerty, more Cammisa videos please. His presentation style is fun, informative, quirky and he is simply one of the best automotive presenters on KZbin.

[@brandonchism6960]

Jason, awesome story & topic. Loved the presentation as well. Anthony, as always you deliver fantastic editing and cinematography. You guys and your team rock!!!

[@albertomorales7322]

I follow so many KZbin channels and I’m always desperate for a new video from Jason. I always say they are like short super well produced movies. Incredible quality and awesome content.

[@TheMainMan318]

Man what ever happened to Petrolicious? Those driving clips really took me back. Thanks for taking the charge with top tier automotive content Hagerty!

I just came across this video and now I feel like I will have to watch every single episode. So good.

[@Stapleton42]

The presentation of the history in these videos is fantastic

[@chinesemassproduction]

I adore those ending drives. Just a sample of the pure driving experience.

[@marcocerqueira2732]

That benzina gauge light going off at every left turn brought back memories or my 1979 Merak SS. Great video as always.

[@bumpedhishead636]

I was 12 years old in the 1970s when I saw a Dino 246 for the first time in a hotel parking lot. It was the most beautiful car I had ever seen. It was all I could talk about for days and I went to the library to read about it in old issues of Road & Track. My father looked at it and said "It's too damn small", then walked away. *sigh*

[@woopimagpie]

I've always loved the 308GT4. And the great thing about them being a bit unloved by "aficionados" is they haven't gone stupid expensive like some other cars have. At the time they were the best handling car Ferrari had ever built, as well as being the first flat-plane crank engine. Like Jason says, they drive fantastically well.

[@DopravniPoradce]

Perfect timing. I met a Dino in Alps three days ago and had a chat with the owner. Thank you for another perfect video.

[@pimpovic2]

I just love the driving bits at the end of these videos. Volume up and stress down, it's as though I'm out for a Sunday drive decompressing.

[@matthewdentist]

As always, Jason pays beautiful homage to the great cars of our history. Maybe it’s because I never knew of the 308 GT/4 as a new vehicle, but I’ve never seen it as ungainly. If anything the extra practicality makes it even more attractive to me.

[@SalemZehar]

Jason’s videos are the only KZbin videos I watch on the TV full screen … he is worth it

[@loukas371]

Simply beautiful. I waited to watch this on my 4K TV with some proper sound and boy was it worth it. And what a great story, I knew almost nothing about these cars.

[@muratzecic8837]

I was about to fall asleep. But I decided to watch this video because it came up on my notifications tab. It's a pretty good video, but in the end, the sound of the equal length exhaust on the dino woke me up and made my heart pump. Now I'm changing the head gasket on my motorcycle because I can't sleep.

[@jeffreybellman7250]

These videos get better and better. Fantastic.

[@TheMusicalSchizo]

FIrst one that made me cry. I love my sons and can't imagine life without them. Loved this one. :)

[@205g0]

never this early lol

[@user-bt4jg5lh4b]

great video and thanky ou for not putting any music over the dino engine sound at the end , beautiful !

[@cristocarstens8253]

Jason Cammisa is the reason why I am hooked on this channel...ok ok others too, but mostly Jason...

[@noelht1]

My uncle had a 308GT4 in the early 80s. Took me to school and it one day. I’m still the king of the school now. If I could have any Ferrari new or old I would have a 308GT4. Send shivers down my spine every time I see one. Lovely car

[@ChrisJones-yh2os]

These Camissa videos elevate car reviews to an entirely different level. They transcend the form. I am just in awe of how compelling and interesting they are.

[@elliottharley1386]

308 GT4. Used to hate it, then last year for no reason that changed, and I now see it as one of the most interesting Ferraris's made.

[@vvutangmc]

I cant believe i wasnt subscribed to this monumental channel

[@thegolfingmusician6345]

My dad owned a mint 246GTS red with tan interior in the mid 70’s. That car was gorgeous and so much fun to ride in.

[@rationallion9438]

This video deserves many, many more views. Thanks Jason.

[@TurboHappyCar]

Once again, thank you for the part at the end with pure car sounds.

[@JohnnyAFG81]

I never understood the shade everyone threw at the Dino. It is a beautiful tribute to his son and stunning car to look at.

[@Hotwheel809]

Jason, please don't stop these episodes, I got sad when petrolicious stopped posting their epic videos of cars, I never get tired of revelations!

[@doggiehowzer]

These videos are coming sooo infrequently that I am saving them to savour them the way they need to be watched. That is today

[@russetwolf13]

The Dino demonstrates that the highest honor is not putting their name on a car, but putting their name one of the best, most popular and most practical road going Ferraris ever. Because putting your son's name on some highly exclusive, recalcitrant super car just ensures no one knows the name you honor.

[@Zanpaa]

As usual, an amazing video from Jason and the team. Informative, funny, beautifully shot and edited. The 206/246 is definitely up there as one of the most beautiful cars, so knowing it's also a great sports car with an amazing engine makes me happy. The only problem with the Revelations episodes is that I definitely can't afford any of the cars...

[@bradh7472]

I think that 206 Dino is one of the most beautiful designs in a car I have seen! Its just stunning to look at.

[@christophernation4793]

The reputation that the Dino has as the most beautiful car to come out of Maranello is well deserved. I used to see them around the high-rent barrios of London but the best view ever was from the control room window the recording studio 'The Manor', Virgin's country recording studio in Oxfordshire Friends of mine [recording as the instrumental duo Jade Warrior] hired Steve Winwood to add some keyboard tracks to their album 'Waves'. Winwood arrived in his 'Corsa Rossa' Dino. In 1975, this car had no equal in drop-dead gorgeous looks. However, Mr Winwood got a bit snitty on acoount of the dusty pawprints on the engine cover that the cat had made which had sussed that this was a particularly warm place to snooze. He should have been thankful that the same idea had not croseed the doggy brain of the resident Irish Wolfhound. His comment at the end of the session was that his fees 'woud buy the wife a new fur coat'. Not these days, Mr. W.

[@ruleninetyone]

That poor GT4. One of my favourite Ferraris of all time along with the 288, F40, F50 and Daytona! Lol. Nice vid as usual.👌

[@CraigBrosRacing]

WOW.....I had no idea😢...that makes me want to go hug my old man...thank you Mr Cammisa

[@ThatguyPanda86]

I honestly had no idea about this and had always taken Clarksons story as fact. I’m eternally grateful for being educated on this as the true story is exponentially more meaningful

[@ashleyburn9589]

Please don't stop making video's like this. Love it

[@drconner89]

I love every episode of revelations and I only hope that they never stop making them

[@blerst7066]

Before I watched this video, I thought of Enzo Ferrari as a man with way too much pride. But after learning about the Dinos, I started to see him differently. They say there's no word for a parent who's lost a child because the pain is impossible to comprehend. He wasn't a saint, but in the end, he was human after all.

[@michaelmarcus509]

Amazing video! The quality, research, humor, and production quality is beyond anyone else. Great job guys

[@MrReese]

Beautiful and amazing storytelling ans visuals as usual, I just love this video series and I learn so much from it. I have a new appreciation for the Dino cars because of this.

[@danielturcotte6161]

Respect for both the car and the chef d’œuvre that is this séries. Great journalism is always easy to see when mix with passion.

[@herrmauser1066]

one of the best motorshows available. Jason Cammisa is funny as hell and should consider trying a career in acting. Keep up the good work Jason. .

[@kam1996]

There ... is .. no ..better Automotive enthusiast channel ..period...

[@majoriix]

I must mention the Tedward cameo, so cool to see him featured here even for a little bit!! Also that Rover 3500 at the start!?😲

[@garymenes]

Brilliant Jason and genius Hagerty for having this platform.

[@car-spot-one8271]

Jason does such a good job telling this stories about cars

[@Santos.Sarmento]

Dear Jason, I've been watching your videos for a long time, I really love the texts as you present them, but on this one you really outdid yourself! Congratulations! Greetings from Brazil.

[@JJF1973]

Wow! This is automotive journalism at its best!

[@clifbradley]

So mad I missed this episode as soon as it released. Love all the Revelation episodes.

[@TheMileswin]

Excellent video and history on the Dino. I also enjoyed the Rover 3500 cameo appearance also connected to Ferrari.

[@brianingle7535]

As always, outstanding content friend. The knowledge/entertainment combination is absolutely fantastic.

[@benjaminsmith3950]

Great stuf as usual. Always learn some new obscure car lore....and lord is my head full of obscure car lore. When are you going to do a story on that M-100 6.9?

[@pekkapohja3570]

Great video. The Dino 246 has been a one of my dream cars since in 1971 TV series The Persuaders Danny Wilde (Tony Curtis) drives it.

[@tomaszprzetacznik7802]

7:22 Beautiful design. Perfection, not a single unnecessary line.

[@gregstandish6439]

Adam Sandler, uh, I mean, Jason Cammisa is the most entertaining and knowledgeable reviewer out there! Keep up the great work!

[@josephhertzberg2734]

The 308 gt4 is a masterpiece. One day I will get one. I want it in an understated color, like dark blue or brown.

[@puebespuebes8589]

The two of them are some of the best looking ferrari. The early one look like little leman car and the 1970s one look like an italian gt version of a lotus esprit, both of them have perfect proportion

[@mikeoren3934]

I remember seeing a rusted body of a Beatle looking car I later found out it was a ferrari Dino now knowing the sad back story make the story of the car even sadder

[@brianfloster2609]

Love seeing Jason really hustle his own car at the very end there!

[@andrewstubbings5628]

What a fantastic video, really informative and super cool!! I love both cars and as a child my Father had the GT4 this was in 1975 and I loved it so much and I still do! Keep up the fantastic work!! 👍👍🇬🇧

[@glennrobinson5117]

Such great cinematography. I don't watch this enough. I must try harder... nice one Hagerty!!

[@kees_pam]

Man that thing sounds insane! I heard the conversation on the carmudgeon show… nice to have some visuals now! Thank you Jason!

[@willpugh8865]

More Jason more Revelations hes a gem this show is amazing and the presentation is top notch