Haiti's long wait for help: Can international police force stop gang rule? • FRANCE 24 English

How to stop the slide in the Americas' poorest nation? The last time this show put the spotlight on Haiti was nearly three months ago. The capital had been overrun by gangs who had banded together against then Prime Minister Ariel Henry, who had just secured a deal to deploy a Kenyan-led international police force.
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[@snoreberry1786]

BBQ just needs to stop calling them gangs. Call them the Haitian Liberation Army then run for President. Problem solved?

[@TulinaboRuviri]

They're can form a separate Paramilitary organization...get some form of military sciences discipline....I performed NATO operations and I can tell you for people to think it's a Liberation Army...they will show some sense of STATEHOOD

[@hiroshi138]

The only people "required" to do anything about this crisis are the Haitians because they created it. And just giving them more money without massive oversight (aka: international intervention) would be foolish unless we want to be right back here in a year.

[@AHD2105]

They are refugees now and they will claim asylum or the UN will send them into your countries.

[@alanfulcher460]

Wow man what a brilliant insight. Foreign countries (the US) flooding the country with guns and money and giving it to crooks is a big cause of this whole fiasco. The guys who assassinated the last president were based in Florida. They SHOULD face reality and strike a peace deal with the gangs but I suspect they will try to conquer Haiti instead. We'll see if these Kenyans are really like that, I guess

[@cyberfunk3793]

There are many there that had not much to do with creating the problems, like women and children. We should just stand on the sidelines and let them suffer? Obviously if we go there, it's not because of we were responsible but because there is a humanitarian crisis.

[@louvendran7273]

Which planet did you fly in from? This mess is attributable to the one & only Uncle Sam. All those refugees provide cheap labour for middle&upper-class Americans, even better if they are undocumented. The employees have zero protection from the law. Plus gun runners & drug cartels get to profit.

[@AHD2105]

@@cyberfunk3793 Sad. Mothers, raise their sons though. Mothers, do have power to influence. They just are tribal and haven't really changed. Just have new, weapons. Sad for the few, that functional and responsible.

[@Mr.paillant]

Haitian government should allow Haitian diaspora to be allowed to play more of an economically supportive role on the island. We want to go to Haiti, establish businesses, hire locals, and create revenue for our people 🙏🏾🇭🇹

[@ildeeartha]

In total agreement with this!!!

[@Mr.paillant]

@@ildeeartha i pray that i live to see the day and be a part of rebuilding the ancestral land

[@felixekojot6741]

Do you want to mean, the government has banned Haitian 🇭🇹 diaspora from participating in Economic and national building?

[@notapplicable4567]

No u dont, u would be there already

[@notapplicable4567]

​@@felixekojot6741thats what im saying

[@Mince333]

Haiti will have peace when the international stop interferes in the Haitians' businesses. When the international stop putting their own criminels leaders and allow the Haitians people to elect their own leaders. Guy Phillipe did elect by the Haitians. Caricom needs to mind their own country. Haiti is an independent country. Enough of the international.

[@Mecduhall91]

Guy Phipps? The guy who’s backed by gangs is going to stop the gangs ?…..interesting

[@muigwamichael9837]

Kenyan led initiative and not a single Kenyan expert on the panel??? What an oversight!

[@gw7768]

..this is France 24...we don't speak French 😂

[@cyberfunk3793]

@@gw7768 Are they speaking French?

[@NiKass-oz3rj]

Your president is only interested in pocketing the funds he received for this idea, coz let's be honest 'only him and his cronies think that this is one quick way of becoming a billionaire.'How do you fight gangs in a foreign country?While your backyard,you have failed to deal with cattle bandits?

[@mychelle446]

Wow... lots of content uploaded about Haiti today... all about the violence and gangs. And this idea that "Haiti" is _waiting_ for help is misleading in that only areas in Port-au-Prince are suffering with street violence.

[@gutimegamix2543]

Yes but it's still Haiti.

[@mychelle446]

@@gutimegamix2543 If the media presented what is happening in the entire country and not just the problems in Port-au-Prince there wouldn't be international support for foreign intervention. Haiti doesn't even have a legally elected government. How is it even legal that the PM that was elected by a council (that was FORCED to agree to foreign intervention in order to get on that panel) can welcome foreign intervention?

[@gutimegamix2543]

@@mychelle446 How are you going to have that government if gangs are controlling the capital? They're doing what ever they want. You probably don't want the intervation, but you need help.

[@alanfulcher460]

@@mychelle446 what's the solution? How do you get the gangs to agree to a deal and lay down their guns? Make Barbeque prime minister or something? If the violence stopped tomorrow and Haiti had an election, who would win?

[@Ludovicfamily]

And Kenyan police are on the way...this is a scary situation 😊

[@davidcwitkin6729]

It seems as if Haiti can't ever get even the tiniest of breaks

[@zablonreuben]

This is so disturbing

[@cherylk.2474]

39:39 This lady mentions that countries who have specialists in handling situations such as the one in Haiti need to get involved and train Haitians. Who are these countries which have specialists who can help Haiti?

[@cyberfunk3793]

Any country that has a functioning military and police force obviously has more expertise and resources than the locals there. Should be some UN mission to restore order.

[@philippusgouws7852]

On who's side is the cia

[@alanfulcher460]

They definitely playing both sides here. Probably will stop selling the gangs guns since Kenya would probably get mad about that.

[@Sango-po5pi]

Haiti needs military intervention

[@righteousbyfaithinChrist]

Haiti's long wait for help? Excuse me I remember hearing them screaming for us to get out of their country.

[@stevenkraft8070]

Are 2,000 or 2,500 international security forces going to be able to solve the problem? I would hope that they can secure the port and airport, but they may not be able to sustain that if those sites keep getting raided by the gangs and the international force gets tired of fighting that. Meanwhile you have this transitional council that doesn't seem to want to transition to a new reality, and is more concerned about each of them getting their 3 months as President than facilitating elections and a new government.

[@alfredo4485]

No. International forces out!

[@teslainthehood2521]

33:33 he hit the nail on the head, to many times to much money. at the end of the day non of the mismanagement could of happened with out Haitian leadership’s helping hand. They couldn’t even stop just for a few months to get its own nation in order. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@alanfulcher460]

Yeah but the people handing out the money are just as much to blame. You have to give the money to people who will do something useful with it.

[@teslainthehood2521]

@@alanfulcher460 your right but if those are its leaders who else can the money be given to but them. 🤦🏽‍♂️ this is what i mean unless Haiti also helps itself no matter what well intended help is given sadly it won’t change the outcome.

[@cherylsibson2529]

I guess I shouldn't be shocked that your program goes 3/4 way to even discussing the Canadian part in Haiti Canada has spent Since 2022, Canada has committed more than $300 million in international development, humanitarian and security assistance funding to Haiti. plus an additional 300, million In addition, Canada is providing in-kind support worth $57 million to reinforce the HNP. Bob Rae spoke about the Canadian part in Haiti Canada has always wished for Haiti's stabilities would happen for them, by themselves. Canada hopes they can get to the point where they can elect their own leaders. Would the force that they want to create be able to speak Creole? Last I heard was 2 months ago, nobody is saying what will happen with Haiti, Canada will be involved in a combine way to solve it but it must come from Haiti to say what they want.

[@rrvisions-rickyruthejew]

The only suggestion that I have for this resolution is to try to negotiate with the Dominican Republic government who has done an outstanding job developing a civilized modern country that is prosperous. The DR is right next door on the same island and know the lay of the land better than any other outside forces plus the DRs proximity to Haiti makes it an ideal location to Headquarters and resupply… So Dominican occupation could be an ideal solution… the problem is those two countries don’t really have anything to do with each other and have almost no diplomatic relations with each other which is unique for countries that are so close to each other like that… Maybe the Dominican government might feel their country is fine the way it is and do not want anything to do with them…

[@tomhenry897]

Last international force was called babykillers

[@MelanieAF]

Yes. And right now, civilians, domestic and foreign, are being kidnapped in broad daylight and held for ransom. They’re often tortured while being held. It doesn’t matter who you are, even poor people, missionaries, priests, anyone-kidnapped in broad daylight, in the midst of crowds, with impunity. Why should people from anywhere subject themselves to that?

[@AHD2105]

⭐EU, UK and the US will be just like this in 10yrs.

[@chadalahio8266]

Stop asking these people to publicize their possible valuables. Imagine what certain people will do to get a resource for survival.

[@rogerallen1767]

mercenarys are not the answer

[@rrvisions-rickyruthejew]

It’s a touchy complicated issue… if outside forces or nations attempt to seize power in Haiti then they would be condemned for oppression and tyrannical actions to clean up the country… If no one does anything then the world is blamed for being indifferent towards human rights abuses and crimes committed by gangs who control Haiti… You cannot use nuclear weapons to wipe Haiti because it is super close to the neighboring civilized prosperous country the Dominican Republic… So any wrong methods could potentially affect their peaceful country as well… It reflects poorly on people of color because it justifies French colonization because they can say that Haitian people are incapable of civilized existence by governing themselves.

[@zaramatthan8447]

THE PLACE TO START IS: at the TOP!!! The little people with guns in the streets are NOT the real problem! And, don’t let anyone make you believe that Ayiti is poor! It is one of the RICHEST island in the Caribbean….not only because of her natural resources, but mostly because of her SPIRITUALITY!

[@kittjonge]

What a pessimistic panel... nothing positive coming from them.

[@theotherohlourdespadua1131]

Because historically, intervention did nothing but worsen the problem. The US did that twice within the last century (from 1916-1935 and 1994) and ended up making Haiti worse off...

[@alanfulcher460]

Can you blame them??

[@user-kj6pb3si9e]

Its Haiti they are talking about. That place has been a perpetual problem. If there is going to be change it will have to come from the Haitians.

[@pgsavva2895]

Presidential council is in touch with gangs on ZOOM, Kenya on the way and your guys are out in left field. A lot is being done in

[@mhick3333]

I feel really sorry for the kenyans

[@TremoneyCreationz]

He lost connection soon as he said the weapons are coming from the US

[@StevenStrauchC]

The question that no one asked during the whole debate: What role should France play? Everyone talked about the roles the US and Nigeria are playing, but France is directly responsible for Haiti being a poor nation struggling to not fall apart completely, and they should play a bigger role in helping them through this crisis.

[@gw7768]

..well, when did France ever do anything positive? Look at West Africa!

[@AHD2105]

Refugees coming to France soon.

[@cyberfunk3793]

Haiti has been independent over 200 years, perhaps they and you should stop blaming others for their poverty. Most countries that take responsibility of their own problems are able to bounce back in a few decades or so even from severe problems.

[@StevenStrauchC]

@@cyberfunk3793 You can't claim to know anything about Haiti's history without knowing that for more than a century after its independence, its growth was stunted by the crippling debt that was imposed on it by France. In 1825 France imposed an "indemnity" or debt of 150 million Francs to Haiti (equivalent to 21 billion USD in 2020). Haiti had to make some payments on that debt which were several times their annual revenue, and only finished paying it in 1947. It was 122 years of paying a debt that didn't allow it to invest in building its infrastructure or invest in education or health services for its people. No other nation in the americas gained independence under these conditions. Of course american investors and bankers also found a way to vulture on Haiti's debt, which contributed to it taking so long to be payed off.

[@cyberfunk3793]

@@StevenStrauchC I know many other poor and destroyed countries that bounced back in a few decades, like the Baltics only since 1991. Stop trying to find blame elsewhere and take responsibility for your own destiny.

[@SeeLasSee]

I don’t think the bread man made the bread himself. 🥖 still he distributes it, which is good.

[@emmanuelmungono1108]

Not Nairobi but a deal with president Ruto alone.

[@darkpenguin1978]

Haïti needs to be under UN protectora for at least two generations in order to retablish education civilian order etc and to rooted out corruption among the commons practice of the ordinary citizens. The problem over there is the total failure of a society with all the segment fall down hill with no exceptions

[@notapplicable4567]

Imo stop u right there, it aint finna work

[@DouziBreeze]

I was working for UN peace keepers MiNua I hope united states' and the rest of the block to stop bluffing .2 us citizens have been kill #fullmilitary intervation /QRF AND AIR SUPPORT AIR SEA AND LAND

[@dupesonlyanddrugstores7421]

😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@moniho6907]

Was barbecue speaking real french?

[@stanleydouge2803]

What’s real French Parisian French is just one of many dialects Haitian creole came from an older variant of oil languages

[@moniho6907]

@stanleydouge2803 that's not what I meant I know they mostly speak creole

[@TulinaboRuviri]

This man just want to sell some bread

[@penzman5385]

Haiti has been receiving money, aid, manpower for over 50 years by now. Bottomless pit.

[@alanfulcher460]

IF the US is pulling the strings on the Kenya intervention: why would they not pick one of the many African countries where they speak French??

[@cyberfunk3793]

Maybe because they are not much better than Haiti?

[@annan7728]

The economy is superior. The politics is the tool serving for the economy.

[@niccoarcadia4179]

Haiti never was a nice place. But it had great possibilities. The climate was nice and the people friendly so what happened?

[@ENG.Kelvinffxgchfhg]

France should leave Haiti

[@LutgardoGomez]

Haiti was a French Colony before and France had owed Haiti a lot of money in reparations. Macron should pay more attention in Haiti than Ukraine. Instead of planning to send French soldiers to Ukraine, why not send them to Haiti to help with the security situation. France had completely abandoned Haiti. They should lead the multi-national forces in Haiti to solve the security situation there!!! What happened with France???

[@stanleydouge2803]

France is no longer a global power Haiti is more in the American influence than anything

[@ninakhizar1994]

Today they should have covered last night’s grotesque Rafah massacre. I can’t get the video of decapitated baby and the father searching for the baby’s missing head out of my mind. Still hear the cries of people burning alive in their tents in my ears more than 12 hours later. I have been traumatized for life. Just think of people who are suffering these atrocities

[@theotherohlourdespadua1131]

And the Haitians should get less coverage because of that?

[@NestorMakhno1789]

things are tough all over. israel-palestine isn't the only crisis in the world.

[@nicssss2894]

There’s enough internet for you to watch both reports. Seems you lack some empathy tho.

[@guff9567]

Stop hating gangs

[@davidcwitkin6729]

What are people supposed to say about them?

[@guff9567]

@@davidcwitkin6729 "we ♥️you, gangs"

[@brandonngetich9210]

😂😂wow​@@guff9567

[@BigBoiBleu]

If the international would back the Armed Forces of Haiti, the problem would already be solved

[@dpfrmhell]

SAVAGES

[@MelanieAF]

Maybe the US just has Haiti fatigue. It’s one crisis after another, a constant money pit. They’re never grateful for help, they’re very entitled about trying to dictate terms while expecting others to pay the bills and do the heavy lifting. I’ve seen so many Haitians express indignation that the US and other western nations didn’t immediately, after Haiti gained independence, just rush to become friendly with Haiti. What did Haiti expect, they’d just slaughtered white women and children, often in gruesome ways. Of course western nations weren’t, especially back in that era, going to rush over to reward Haiti for such an action. I don’t know what’s so strange or difficult to understand about that. And for 200 years Haiti has been on the one hand crowing about kicking the French out while in all that time, never being able to become even a moderately successful nation. Phooey on the debt-other nations have climbed out of worse holes. And what does that have to do with the inability to at least establish stable rule of law? Also-Haiti itself isn’t pure. They invaded the Dominican Republic and occupied and oppressed it for years. They even committed some massacres, such as wholesale beheading of people of Moca and Santiago in 1805, when the Dominicans were trying to repel yet another invasion from the Haitians. Haiti, heal thyself. Or at least stop acting like the rest of the world owes it to you to do it for you, pay for it, and then get nothing but ingratitude in the bargain.

[@MyDsmall]

Haitians are French. How could France abandon its territory?

[@cherylk.2474]

Haiti has been an independent nation for over 200 years. The Haitian people drove out the French, and Haiti is not a French territory.

[@theotherohlourdespadua1131]

France got kicked out of Haiti for good in 1800 by the Haitians. It was never a French territory since then...

[@LK-ou4be]

U wrong on that one.

[@alanfulcher460]

They ditched Haiti 200 years ago

[@carlitosway3030]

US taxpayers shouldn’t allow helping any country that can’t pay us back!!!

[@rickdworsky6457]

Haiti is poor for the some reason there is homelesness... Humanity needs a redistribution of wealth.

[@jerrymiller9039]

Fine. Go and explain that to the gang leaders in Haiti

[@marccru]

So, other countries should have to pay for Haitis constant f..k ups?

[@tomhenry897]

Give them your money

[@NiKass-oz3rj]

Barbecue is the biggest hindrance when it comes to peace in Haiti.The president stepped down and yet there is still chaos, then he goes on to insist 'no government without gang deals?'He must be joking!