! Thank you LaoShi for sharing your knowledge and experience on your channel !
@aerival12 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for all your hard work! 🙏
@HaiYangChannel2 жыл бұрын
So nice of you.
@randyclere23304 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your wonderful and informative videos... they are fantastic. Deepest respect, Master
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome and thank you too.
@lgv30513 жыл бұрын
I am very late to this episode, but very happy to find it. I practice a form of Bagua that comes down from Liou Wan Fu from Tianjin. It seems that Master Zhang Zhao Dong had very big postures, based on these old photos. This is the same way that i was taught. Maybe we can call it a "large frame"art. But your movements seem to be a smaller or medium size. Is this the way you were taught, or is it just the way things work for you? And thank you so much for posting this information. You have some of the best traditional Chinese Martial Arts videos on KZbin. A true scholar 👍👍
@HaiYangChannel3 жыл бұрын
Hello, thank you for your comments to my channel. Regarding Zhang's posture: his posture was much bigger in his earlier year and changed after his 50s. I learned both but prefer his later practice.
@helmerhurtadovargas32433 жыл бұрын
Es la primera vez que encuentro una enseñanza de tan considerable calidad en artes marciales. Le quedo muy agradecido a éste maestro. Para la mentalidad Occidental la enseñanza por conceptos es una vía clara de aprendizaje rápido y seguro. Maestro, le presento mis respetos por su actividad en favor de la enseñanza, de sus discípulos y de la humanidad; le deseo larga vida.
@HaiYangChannel3 жыл бұрын
I used Google Translate to understand your writing:) thank you for your comments. I hope I will have more and more useful videos posted in the future.
@maximumx41784 жыл бұрын
You are one of the last true masters in this world I believe.. I have trained in Bagua for 5 months and there is nothing in this world that can describe the energy you build within. Much respect.
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
No, please. There are many people promoting the art in different ways...
@plemyk4 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome.
@Wukong03 жыл бұрын
I just started watching your channel. Such great content! It’s very clear, descriptive and allows people to critically think about their own practices in Xing Yi, Ba Gua or Taiji practices! Thank you! I will continue to subscribe and watch your videos. Hopefully, I will be able to teach and open my own school one day and contribute to the Traditional Martial Arts Community! 🙏
@HaiYangChannel3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@berndbocian83554 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, very competent and clear. Thank you. From George Xu i heard that his Bagua is from Liu Wan Fu. I read that Liu Wan Fu's teacher, Cheng Yun Qing, was Zhang Zhao Dong's student and brother in law. I image the style was each time, from teacher to teacher, "personalized".
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree with you regarding personalization in practice. Also, it is true that practice will change or even diluted during this process, unfortunately. So, keep it pure and respect the tradition of each line is important, in my opinion. This is the principle that I always follow and respect in practicing and teaching. Thank you for your comments.
@berndbo33604 жыл бұрын
Thanks. So you learned the Style of Zhang from your family members "pure" without much changes? Would be a treasure ! And you teach it ?
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
I learned different style not only from my family members but also a lot of other teachers. Keep it pure is a personal choice, means that I do not mix them up among each styles. Thanks.
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
Also, when I teach my students, I always remind them to keep the specific style’s characteristics as what it is without modification. This is why it is an attitude, or at least I take this issue seriously. Thanks.
@RKie-hv6ci4 жыл бұрын
Hi Master Yang, salute from Houston. Thank you for sharing and teaching great gong-fu on KZbin.
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! And thank you for your comments.
@leonardofabiangarciarincon90132 ай бұрын
Good day Master. I have two questions. Could I practice any Baguaguang sequence with Ming-jin? Personally, I practice Emei Baguazhang (I learned it from Master Yang Chenhan). Is Ming-jin similar to Fa-jin, from Chen style Taijiquan? Thank you.very much.
@isaaceng33634 жыл бұрын
Almost all styles of Bagua today are descended from 3 branches: The Yin Style: the Cheng Style: and the Liang style. The Founder of the Yin Style, Yin Fu, was Dong Haichuan's first Student while Dong was employed at the Palace by the Prince of Su. Yin Fu probably studied with Dong Haichuan for a longer period than any other of Haichuan's students. As Master Yang mentioned earlier, since Haichuan instructed his students based on the styles that they had learnt previously, Yin Fu's Bagua was based on Shaolin Louhan. The Yin Style's signature Palm is the Ox Tongue Palm, or Piercing palm, and the Yin Style is referred to by many as Hard Palm or Cold palm. The Liang style as the youngest of the 3 branches is a synthesis of both the Yin Style and the Cheng Style, and the Liang style uses the hard Piercing Palm when doing Palm changes( the Liang style however uses a rounder, softer Palm when doing 8 Palms Circle walking). So I want to point out, that Zhang Zhaodong's use of obvious force, or hard force, when doing his Xingi-Bagua was only innovative in the context of the soft Cheng style, seeing that both the Yin and Liang styles make use of hard force from the very beginning by the use of the Ox Tongue Palm, probably the most important technique in both of these Bagua Branches. I would like to point out, however, that emphasizing hard force, while good for fighting, has a major disadvantage: Soft force, rather than Hard force, is "best for building good health." I think Master Yang mentioned this in an earlier Video, when you said that when comparing Tai Chi, Bagua and Xingi, Bagua is the Style best for building Health--Moreover, the Cheng style Bagua should be best style of Bagua for health because Palm changes are most often done softly. Master Wang Shangzhi is a well known Master of the Cold or Hard Palm Yin style bagua( good for Fighting but not so good for Health): kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYbMZnWenc95rKs Next Master Shi Wenzhou( don't know who he is, or where he teaches) demonstrates the Cheng Style with powerful Fa Jing: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJ7YioCuedmEl7s
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the input and the links. I like the first one a lot.
@dannytan77104 жыл бұрын
Great video! Personally have only heard of but not seen this style. However, I think the movement looks very similar to Jiang-style (姜容樵) Bagua which also has xingyi elements (Jiang being a student of Zhang Zhaodong). Appreciate it!
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
Jiang promoted this style a lot. Jiang created his own routine based on Zhang's teaching. He did not stay with Zhang for long time... Thanks.
@dannytan77104 жыл бұрын
@@HaiYangChannel thanks for the historical perspective! I personally like the xingyi-influenced bagua as well! Just for reference, this is the version i was taught kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIOYeIGfabNngtU
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
Nice. It seems that is it taught by sha guozheng.
@FerrisJerjis4 жыл бұрын
Thanks you for posting this, I am glad that you clarified that photo often its seen in the context of Xing Yi but it never made much sense to me as its often labelled as San Ti practice but to me the size and the expression of the posture was confusing as it did not obey Xing Yi precepts as I was taught them, thank you again for sharing.
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome. It is our duty to clarify this kind of mistake so that people in the community will not be misled. Thanks.
@john_kalen_mcclain4 жыл бұрын
I really love this series of videos. I’ve been practicing for 10 years and remember seeing your Videos around the time I started. I was really impressed. With your Xing Yi Fajin. I might like to start some distance learning with you soon.
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comments. 10 years passed fast! I am in the process of creating an e learning program and hopefully it will be done after the COVId19 issue settles down, so that I can start to shoot the video part.
@john_kalen_mcclain4 жыл бұрын
Hai Yang cool. Thank you!
@Purwapada4 жыл бұрын
. I think this is the only information about xingyi-bagua on the internet!!! (at least that i ccan find) hahaha thanks
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
This style was very popular in Tianjin, and even today, there are some people practice it over there. But people in Tianjin normally keep low profile, maybe... Thanks.
@Purwapada4 жыл бұрын
. @@HaiYangChannel ohhh thant makes sense.
@dragoon-kx2qs4 жыл бұрын
谢谢师傅!视频质量好,消息很详细,很有用
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comments. Especially it is interesting that you type in Chinese:)
@ryusuikarate2 жыл бұрын
My lineage is via Zhao Dao Xin who learned from Wang Xiang Zhai and Zhang Zhao Dong. It's interesting to see what he might have learned since our bagua is pretty different than this.
@HaiYangChannel2 жыл бұрын
Great to know.
@timdarmetko40394 жыл бұрын
thank you !!!
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@andresfinkelstein94704 жыл бұрын
Xie xie Lao shi! I really enjoy your videos! Regarding master zhang disciples, do you know/consider master wang shu jing (famous in Taiwán) to be one of them ? May be the last? Thanks a lot !
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
Hello, I think that both of them were from Tianjin originally, and moved to Taiwan around 1049. When I was in Tianjin, I never heard about them at all. To be very straightforward, I have never paid much attention to them . One of my good friends who knew both of them personally in Taiwan told me some stories about them, but it is not the right place to share those stories in the public since it has nothing to do with my teaching and practice. But, thank you for your comments.
@drunkmara4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Master for your videos, it’s a pity that I am far away and I don’t have the opportunity to learn from you.
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
Hello, I understand. I will post more materials in the future for you as a reference. Thanks.
@ah78144 жыл бұрын
Thanks again shifu. Out of curiosity, there are some videos on youtube labeled as xingyibaguazhang such as this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmSpZqmNZshpgrc is it the same style or are there multiple xingyi-baguazhang hybrid systems?
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
I do not want to make any comments to this one...thank you for your link but sorry for my answer.
@mahaganpatiproductionsgoa.21422 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@HaiYangChannel2 жыл бұрын
Welcome
@laurentmorin19234 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing this. It was a very nice surprise to see this video and I learned a lot. Is there a clear compendium to this style, like the bagua's 64 palms?
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
Hello Laurent, thank you for your comments. There is not 64 palms in this system but has all other practices such as single movements, 8 big-palms, and some weapons.
@laurentmorin73054 жыл бұрын
@@HaiYangChannel Great! Thank you.
@DaiAndrews4 жыл бұрын
As someone who practices Sun style Bagua I found this very interesting as it also includes many elements of Xingyi and Cheng Bagua.
@PaulArena754 жыл бұрын
Who did you learn Sun bagua from? 👍🏼
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
Sun learned from Cheng, and Sun taught both Beijing and Tianjin. And his son taught mostly in Tianjin. So no wonder there are xingyi elements here. thanks.
@DaiAndrews4 жыл бұрын
@@PaulArena75 my current teacher is Tim Cartmell.
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
I heard about him but never talked in person. He is in the USA.
@DaiAndrews4 жыл бұрын
@@HaiYangChannel yes, near loss Angeles in California. I travel to learn from him when I am able.
@maduroholdings3 жыл бұрын
I used to put a lot of fa Jin in my bagua many years ago but was criticized for it looking like karate. Perhaps I will explore this idea however even my hsing i looks rather soft so I don’t know where the fa Jin will come from
@HaiYangChannel3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they did not get it.
@MithShrike4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. Did you choose this combination of movements to demonstrate Zhang's influence on wider bagua? I'm quite interested in Xingyi-Bagua having trained in Kenny Gong lineage. I've been trying to research that link but our local seniors tell me fairy stories about Yue Fei in post World War II China.
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
Hello, I just randomly chose some movements and made the small video. It seems that some body mentioned Keeny Gong somewhere before...can't recall now. Yue Fei was centuries earlier than the WW2...Thank you for your input.
@evilbrave53793 жыл бұрын
Hello, how do you explain that no bagua praticionners today, are fighting in MMA championship ? What's the reason ? Thanks
@HaiYangChannel3 жыл бұрын
Well, that is a good question. In my opinion, people practice different style for different purposes. In China, Sanda is very popular for competition. But the techniques and practices of San Da are based on many traditional practice. Thanks,
@evilbrave53793 жыл бұрын
@@HaiYangChannel Thank you for answering
@berndbocian83554 жыл бұрын
I would like to add another question. Si you learned this style "pure" from your family members and you teach it ? Would be a treasure
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
Hello, I would like to answer you question. I learned my practice with my grandfather first, then my uncle, and then many other teachers as well. Also, I have traveled to many regions in China in order to improve my knowledge before/after I moved to Canada. It is a never-ending practice. Thanks,
@thingfun1224 жыл бұрын
讲的真细,圣手书生刘琦兰,闪电手张赵东。
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
必须要系。否则就是误人子弟啊。
@maduroholdings3 жыл бұрын
Nice I copied it to the best of my ability I will send you a clip I practice Jiang Rong Qiao but I have created a set called “missing pieces “ it is simply palms from different systems first and second palm of Cheng style, 1,2,,3 palm from dragon , 1,2,3 from yin I will make this the 9 palace of the form because it is so lively. thank you
@HaiYangChannel3 жыл бұрын
LEt's see.
@maduroholdings3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqulcmCCbL-bjbc Here it is the palm you demonstrate is at the end so you may want to fast forward to the end to see how I was able to get some of it My problem was organizing the turn around To start the palm on the right side But I think a few more exposures to your demonstration will sort that out.
@heartandmindmartialarts85704 жыл бұрын
Another great discussion on this topic, thank you. Do you know much of Zhao Daoxin, top student of Zhang Zhaodong? Any stories from your family?
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comments. Sure I know his story. My grandfather practiced with the same teacher. I met Zhao in person. Some articles in his name were not written by him at all, or at least not based on his original words.
@heartandmindmartialarts85704 жыл бұрын
@@HaiYangChannel wow, that's awesome. How old was he when you met him? Did you get to see or feel any of his art at all? I have also been told that and think I know the certain texts you are referring to! My teacher is a disciple of one of his later students. I consider myself very fortunate 🙏
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
@@heartandmindmartialarts8570 He was sick at that time already, around his late 70s. But he still worked very well. I do not know who your teacher is, may interesting to see his video somewhere.
@heartandmindmartialarts85704 жыл бұрын
@@HaiYangChannel that is still a great honor, I hear that even after his stroke he still moved like a dragon when practicing! My teachers name is Paul Rogers. The majority of his videos are private for students but he has a few on here. I'm sure he would be pleased to know of your line and connection to the old masters in Tianjin.
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
@@heartandmindmartialarts8570 Zhao was great. No idea about your teacher, sorry. I am not that active in this community.
@googlerfan73254 жыл бұрын
楊大師 集明師與名師 於一身
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
您过奖!谢谢。
@ZalMoxis4 жыл бұрын
Why so raised elbows??
@HaiYangChannel4 жыл бұрын
what are you talking about? I am not following your question. Sorry.