Baguazhang: Building Blocks, Requirements and Expectations

[@LudwigClemens]

Thank you for your efforts in not only structuring such an amount of knowledge in a comprehensive manner but also taking the time and presenting it in this way. Would you be willing to give a little more detail about the body conditioning and mobility training you mention? Thank you in advance!

[@HaiYangChannel]

Sure. WIll do it in the future. Thanks,

[@hassekry]

Thank you Sifu Hai Yang. I have long been waiting to understand the link between the Yijing trigrams and the palm changes of Baguazhang - and now you tell us that there are no 1-to-1 correspondence between the Yijing trigrams and Baguazhang's 64 palms :-D It seems I've been caught in cultural utopianism too.

[@HaiYangChannel]

You are very welcome

[@ryusuikarate]

I have a clearer picture now of this style than the bagua style I practice myself. Had I known all of this before my path would have been very different. Thank you

[@HaiYangChannel]

You are very welcome.

[@michaelhaverson1451]

Thank you Master. This is wonderful. I have studied for years but having such an organized presentation on building blocks is so helpful in keeping an eye on the value of all aspects of my training. Again, thank you.

[@HaiYangChannel]

You are very welcome. Let's keep the practice moving forward!

[@renounhinged]

I have no bagua teacher near me, and I guess there is a low probability of meeting one in India. This video is soooo helpful for me to contextualise and understand from Chinese videos uploaded on KZbin. I don’t understand them but I can put pieces together thanks to this knowledge Thank you x a million 🥺

[@HaiYangChannel]

You are very welcome.

[@DaiAndrews]

As a practitioner of the Sun style I found it very interesting to learn more about how the other styles in the Cheng family are organized. As always I learned a lot from watching, thank you for another wonderful video.

[@HaiYangChannel]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks.

[@georgesabitpol]

Clear and instructive. Thank you for sharing with an open heart!

[@HaiYangChannel]

You are so welcome. These information should be openly shared with others and that is my honor. thank you.

[@KlausBeckEwerhardy]

After all the years of training and reading it is nice to see your training system which perfectly structures my personal experiences so far. Thank you again for a mentally nourishing video and have a nice weekend.

[@HaiYangChannel]

Thank you for your encouragement. Wish you a wonderful weekend as well.

[@rogeliocasero5908]

Thank you very much, master. Without a doubt, the information you offer in your videos is unique and very valuable. Please keep making these videos and you will make very happy people like me who are looking for the true essence of martial arts. I am especially interested in Baguazhang and look forward to your next video on this topic.

[@HaiYangChannel]

Thank you, I will keep making these videos. IF you want, please contribute some topics so that it will be easier for me to know what others want.

[@Mindful7Kung7Fu7]

Wow thank you so much Shifu ! Great that you freely share this with your 0erfect english !

[@HaiYangChannel]

My pleasure!

[@pgskills]

Above all, this lecture makes it clear to me that there are MANY teachers out there claiming to teach complete Pa Kua Chang systems when they, in fact, have nothing of the sort. It's a bit demoralizing, to be honest. However, I do believe that long, thoughtful practice of fundamental movements and principles and the development of the 'Bagua body' can be a great help in advancing one's own practice even if you realize that you've only been taught bits and pieces of a whole system. I truly appreciate all the thought and organization that you've put into this presentation. It's clearly the product of long years of study and development. I especially appreciate the distinction you make between linear practices that were developed later that were perhaps influenced by Xingyi methodology and linear practices that were most likely included in the Bagua taught by Tung Hai Chuan to his disciples. I did notice you didn't reiterate your belief that this 'Original' Bagua most likely did not include much, if any, circle-walking practice or forms. I can imagine that belief is a source of controversy and argument that you would rather avoid, much like the topics of chi kung or chi in internal martial arts can be contentious and unproductive to discuss with people who have strongly-held beliefs about the subject. Once again, Sifu, I truly appreciate you sharing your deep knowledge on these arts with such clarity and honesty. I hope you are doing well.

[@HaiYangChannel]

Thank you for your comments. I try my best not to create any trouble for anyone in producing these videos in order to keep a harmony in our community. This is why I try to avoid certain topics.

[@pgskills]

@@HaiYangChannel I completely understand your point of view and how the discussion of such topics can sometimes veer off into arguments rather than a productive exchange of ideas and knowledge. Thank you so much for this more in-depth video on Bagua Zhang. Thank you, also, for always taking the time to respond to my questions and comments, Sifu. Your lectures and attitude have helped to inspire and focus my own practice and that of my Bagua Zhang brothers and I truly appreciate it.

[@HaiYangChannel]

Thank you for understanding, let's focus on positive individuals and events and make the community a better place for all of us.

[@ISkandarash]

"did not include much, if any (!!!), circle-walking practice" ... I don't know what you are talking about ... But Circle-Walking is a fundamental training and energetic method in the practice of Bagua Zhang, if you don't practice it don't be surprised if you don't understand why. The palms can be practiced in linear or circular depending on what you want to work on at the moment. Serious practitioners have no beliefs, but experience of their practice ...You talk about "beliefs" and habits of others, but you'd better be wary of yours to start ...

[@pgskills]

@@ISkandarash Who's talking about not circle-walking? You're late to the conversation, buddy. You need to go back and watch his previous Bagua-related lectures; specifically the vid on Cheng style Bagua. It lays out the evidence for the idea that walking a closed circle was more than likely not a part of the curriculum that Tung Hai Chuan taught his students and that it was a necessary modification introduced by Cheng Tinghua which later came to be adopted by nearly all the various Bagua styles. I appreciate the many benefits of circle-walking and it comprises a large portion of my Bagua practice. That doesn't change historical facts. Neither does your bluster about your experience.

[@ukguy]

excellent and informative video thank you

[@shodashingo0896]

@ukguy Your channel is excellent .... It has helped me a lot ..... Thank you very much.

[@HaiYangChannel]

Thanks for your comments.

[@GFD472]

Wonderful content!! Your videos are so helpful and jam packed with solid information! I look forward to each new installment. Thank you for helping us understand these Chinese arts!

[@HaiYangChannel]

Glad you like them!

[@itsallaroundyou7085]

🙌🙏👏👏 wow bagua is complex! Very informative and as always highly enjoyable. Can't wait for tai chi curriculum. Amituofo!

[@HaiYangChannel]

Thank you! 😃I will work on the one for Tai Chi soon.

[@UatuEd]

Wonderful explanation! The discussion of weapons, in particular sword (dao) was particularly interesting. Would love to see how dao is practiced in Cheng style baguazhang, and also how that then relates back to barehand techniques. I also agree that traditional teaching style is very haphazard, so each student has to organize what they learned themselves!

[@HaiYangChannel]

Thanks for your comments.

[@laurentmorin1923]

This video is a great gift! Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge this way. The sabre in the picture you showed is Cheng Tinghua's, right?

[@HaiYangChannel]

Glad it was helpful! That person in that photo was his youngest son, Cheng Youxin. Thanks,

[@maximumx4178]

Thank you for the video, it would be amazing if you would do online training of the 24 postures or stances of Bagua. Would this be possible.?

[@HaiYangChannel]

Great suggestion! The 24 postures are the easiest part. Thanks,

[@d14bolus]

@@HaiYangChannel would this be considered the same as what is referred to as the turning palms?

[@xiaohu1974]

Thank you very much for this great video!

[@HaiYangChannel]

You're very welcome!

[@Juan0003]

Very good information here! Thank you for sharing!

[@HaiYangChannel]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@d14bolus]

May I say a very heartfelt thank you Hai Laoshr!! Also as an YiZong student I play Hebei Xing yi and Cheung school Gao style Baguazhang. Do you feel an importance in learning tian gan and do they apply differently to each style? Also thank you for bringing up cultivation. As I grow older I find myself reading and studying more on the subject. Please do continue. As I hear many pieces of wisdom or parts that lead me to questions for my teachers.

[@HaiYangChannel]

Thank you for your comments. It is good to know that we share the same thoughts regarding a higher level of practice. I will keep creating more videos.

[@d14bolus]

@@HaiYangChannel very welcome. Also a very important multiplicity of ideas you can bring up. I fear these arts will get lost not only because of a loss of cultural relevance, but also due to incomplete understanding and learning proper. I was furloughed from work due to Covid19. However I have some prospects lined up. I will visit your website and make some purchases or happy to just donate money so you may carry on. In all humbleness Tyson

[@larrylitrakis9400]

thank you master.

[@HaiYangChannel]

You are very welcome

[@oniricforge]

gracias un trabajo muy serio

[@HaiYangChannel]

Eres muy bienvenido.

[@oniricforge]

@@HaiYangChannel gracias saludos desde santiago de chile

[@bredmond812]

Is there a 穿九宫 exercise or routine in your version of bagua? Or is there a wooden post training where you push against the posts as you do techniques?

[@HaiYangChannel]

no, it is just a practice.

[@bredmond812]

@@HaiYangChannel oh, so you do have something called 穿九宫. Do you do exercises against a pole?

[@marek8734]

Master Yang, please explain why in MMA we don’t see internal style martial artists to prevail and to win the fights? I understand that not all people who practice internal styles are not warriors but after all those styles are all martial arts and their founders have been warriors, real-life bodyguards etc. I also understand that some are not interested in public fights but on the other side even in China some masters did accept the challenges and fought on the public stage in history. But today, it is somewhere lost or hidden.

[@HaiYangChannel]

Hello, this is a very interesting question. My answer is that different WAY of training generates different result. To compete with others on the stage needs to specific training, which is beyond any styles. Internal martial artists do not have the same intensity and quantity of training hours/methods/system aimed as MMA. Also, it is a personal choice, not a style choice. I hope in the future that new generation of internal style students will train themselves and go for compete with MMA. I hope I answered your question. Thanks,

[@marek8734]

@@HaiYangChannel Master Yang, thank you for your answer! As you also know the Chinese medicine very well, could you please advise and show some exercises against the hemorroids which is the 21-st century sickness of the office people? I know it is little bit out of context but internal styles emphasize the human health highly!

[@HaiYangChannel]

Sorry, no experience of it even though I studied in a TCM university but I have never practiced on this issue. But basically, having a regular exercise instead of sitting a long time will help, I think,. Thank,s

[@blazink50]

Can you make a video on the importance of chi gung for training internal arts appreciate it if you can thank you for all the knowledge you’ve shared sir

[@HaiYangChannel]

I think I will make one. My only concern is that some people will argue about it with me forever after I put is on a video format:). It is so hard not to offend anyone in sharing information.. Thank you for your support.

[@blazink50]

Hai Yang it’s better to tell the truth and offend then lie and make others smile in my opinion... people spend years doing tai chi and don’t practice chi gung.. you tell me sir is.is that wasting time?

[@HaiYangChannel]

I think you are making an important point here. The issue is that many people just want to stop at the martial/physical level...

[@blazink50]

Iam what I would call a entry student into chi gung hopefully sooner than later I can build my root and create a dan tien. I don’t see how peole expect to do martial use without the control of chi gungs energetic channels to me it’s simply nothing but fancy king fu movements.. anyways Thank you sir I understand your info is coming from the root and very genuine lineages take care

[@HaiYangChannel]

Thank you, let's work together to promote this kind of concept!

[@drunkmara]

Thank you Master! Hard force training will be build a soft force, right?

[@HaiYangChannel]

That is correct. But to Bagua, there is different way to get the soft force and hard force... not like other style.

[@drunkmara]

@@HaiYangChannel Master, tell more about what soft force means.

[@HaiYangChannel]

It's very hard to explain it in a short sentence. I think I may write an article or make a video about it in the future.

[@drunkmara]

@@HaiYangChannel That would be great! I have been studying TCM for more than 8 years, and I haven’t progressed further than hard training. Now I can move more holistically, and I can do Fa Li. Thanks to your video, I’ve more clearly understood what dantian is, and I understand how to use it in my practice. I also had the opportunity to learn 8 basic movements of the bagua. And I want to understand where to go further in practice. Thank you for your building block scheme.

[@HaiYangChannel]

Thank you for sharing your experience with us! Good to know that you are working on different facets. Please keep going!

[@thunderflower7998]

What is the name of the circle weapon in the picture of your video...on the right?in Chinese? Deer horn knife?

[@HaiYangChannel]

子午鸳鸯钺

[@isaaceng3363]

It Certainly has been a real Treat for me this Summer to be able to watch these Clips, as I'm sure many others very much enjoyed this Video Series. In most Cheng Style Bagua Lineages, the 8 Mother Palms, which serve as the foundation for all 64 Palms, are done as one Continuous Form, or else One Mother Palm is followed by the Next Mother Palm until all 8 Palms are completed. It would be nice if Master Yang would create a Clip showing his unique interpretation of all 8 Mother Palms, as I'm sure so many of us would appreciate this. Here are some examples of the top Bagua Masters perfoming different versions of the 8 Mother Palms. Cheng Master Sun Zhijun: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGnEmKmYrrJ3obc Liang Master Zhang Quan Liang: In the Liang style they are known as 8 Old Palms: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZzVlJZof7GSpNU Fu Style Bagua Master Xiao Kun: the Fu Style is the only bagua style where they sometimes spin like a ballerina: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZXZmZyZj56Ubbs Guo Gumin's 8 Turning Palms: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJfWiI1_jMdkppY Last but not least: Master Han Yan Wu is one of Liu Jingru top students: In the beginning of Clip he Demonstrates 8 Static Palms and later in Video, Wu demonstrates the 8 Mother Palms: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWSyaKewnseYpNk

[@HaiYangChannel]

Thank you for it. I hope you will enjoy it more. In Quebec, the winter comes very early and fast. Over here, we all try to enjoy the summer as much as we can.

[@ZalMoxis]

Is there a summary book of this branch of Cheng style... i've done Sun Zhijun's Cheng Bagua for 15 years now.... any info welcome.. thankyou.

[@HaiYangChannel]

Not yet. I may make a book in the future.

[@youngmf6052]

I’ve been taught that one should know at least three methods of applying each movement. My understanding is that three is just the beginning.

[@HaiYangChannel]

Thanks you for your input. I will think about it.

[@onedirection3510]

Amazing content! Thank you so much! Considering all your content, are there any books in English that you recommend?

[@HaiYangChannel]

Not that I know of. Thank you for your comment.

[@onedirection3510]

Hai Yang thanks. Your video content is extraordinary. Perhaps it is a very ironic blessing that the current situation in the world gives you the time to share all of this amazing information. I’m very appreciative.

[@onedirection3510]

Hai Yang Do you have any general estimation as to when your school in Montreal May reopen?

[@HaiYangChannel]

Hello, no idea yet. I only can help some of my senior students online at this moment. Have to wait for government's indication of new policy.

[@onedirection3510]

Hai Yang I totally understand. Thank you.

[@timothyrude359]

what are your thoughts on the new C S Tang bagua book?

[@HaiYangChannel]

Sorry, I do not know whom CS TAng is, neither know that book.

[@Aklukva]

Please make the overview of Sun Lutang's book Baguaquanxue.

[@HaiYangChannel]

Do you think it is appropriate for me to do so?

[@Aklukva]

@@HaiYangChannel Why not? You can explain the intricate parts in Sun Lutang's book.

[@HaiYangChannel]

Interesting, if so, I may create a series in the future to introduce some important martial art books including this one! Thanks,

[@Aklukva]

@@HaiYangChannel 谢谢! 您太客气了。

[@Purwapada]

. One day i hope to make my own seven star pole 七星竿 (with real mercury inside) also, i'm very curious about the judge's pen. And 'yuen yang razors'/'cockerel knives' which uses poison apparently?)

[@HaiYangChannel]

Yes, that will be nice.

[@terciary]

So as I’ve understood your lecture - the original Cheng stile was flexible and highly customizable with just three obligatory Palms. This approach is existent no more: Cheng Bagua nowadays taught only as fixed set of routines - “one size fits all”

[@HaiYangChannel]

There are different Cheng style nowadays too .

[@raypauley9811]

May I ask you a question how much Thai chi forms are in Bague Kung Fu please get back with me please get back with me

[@HaiYangChannel]

Please watch my video about each style's building blocks, those videos will answer your question. Thanks,.

[@benquinney2]

To get better at circle walking

[@HaiYangChannel]

interesting.

[@benquinney2]

Where all the changes are leading

[@HaiYangChannel]

interesting

[@mattbugg4568]

The bagua or 8 trigrams is very miss understood. Imagine you standing facing east you back is to the west, there are five divisions of day and five divisions of night, the all dash symbol of three is the frount of your body, the all line symbol of three is your back these are the six gates, water and fire are left side and right side and the other four are the 45s on that diagram, the earth itself has the symbols of the opposite diagram in each direction you move to so when you twist the circle walking you are moving to the direction of the ba gua on the earth with the bagua of the body so that your movement is making the two diagrams into one in the correct orientation on the diagram in the world. This is application of the one movement of the hexagram.

[@HaiYangChannel]

hard to understand, have to spend more time to read it.

[@marianocordero340]

A7 years old killed each other by a gun i hate that children killing each other

[@marianocordero340]

That will never defeat a Gun and im a student of Nartial Arts

[@marianocordero340]

Ima Student forever

[@marianocordero340]

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