Hakone Mt. Taikan Night - Wangan Midnight 5DX+ VS Initial D Zero (Graphics Comparison)

SEGA's Initial D Arcade Stage Zero, and Bandai Namco's Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune 5DX+, played on real arcade hardware, with footage captured using capture card.
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[@FalbereChan]

Disclaimer: The Initial D video had been sped up to match the WMMT5DX+ video, for easier comparison. Special thanks and shoutout to Barry Huang for helping out with recording for WMMT5DX+! Subscribe here ►kzbin.info

[@jerrickho4289]

Can u continue the story mode?

[@demon-x3250]

Oh thank god, i legit thought they had the same pace

[@FalbereChan]

@@jerrickho4289 Story mode is already finished.

[@juunda2523]

Initial D music Name?

[@juunda2523]

@Eurobeat Lover Sky thanks

[@suitedmonkey0]

Ahhh Wangan Midnight! The game where an TRUENO goes over 300 km/h...

[@rally2727]

*a

[@randomturkyt]

106 kmh fasater lol

[@migueljozart8287]

It’s tuned

[@thedarkcity4084]

I'm like 3 years late but it gets even bonkers since u can do the same thing with a fucking van 💀

[@caneryasar]

When I look at the Initial D footage I can clearly say this is an indeed Initial D game also when I look at the Wangan Midnight footage I can clearly say this is a Wangan Midnight game, they look good in their own ways.

[@apatoxic]

True

[@alperkaya3334]

dimi kardeş

[@1738-l1j]

Initial d gameplay and graphics wangan hud and music

[@caneryasar]

@@1738-l1j it's your choice I like them as this actually.

[@salamov963]

anaa turk varmis lann

[@MiloWildfire]

"Graphics comparation" **You've provoked a gang war**

[@tofuakio3478]

For AE86 model wise? Yup i had the same thought Namco why you made the AE86 "rounded" instead of Initial D style "solid" design???

[@BarryHuang]

Thanks Falbere!

[@mattyaqin7501]

Ayy Barry

[@yudhityasekarg64]

Aye barry

[@Anitropius]

Very interesting. I like the way cars are modelled a bit more in Initial D, but I really like some of the graphical effects in Wangan (such as the city in the background, falling leaves etc) but it's obvious that Wangan is a bit more colorful while Inital D a bit more muted in color. They both look good in their own ways though.

[@playroomworks6640]

どっちも同じコースを再現しつつもゲームの味やリズムに合わせて微妙にレイアウトがアレンジされてるのが面白い。 どっちもプレイヤーが気持ちよく走れるように道幅や曲率まで入念に調整されてるんでしょうね・・・

[@宮代優]

ゲーム性に合わせた作り込みがすごいですね。位置などしっかり合わせた編集でとても見やすいです。頭文字Dの三人称視点、あまり使わないですがこうしてみると結構良いと思いました。

[@AWDfreak]

It's kind of nice how both arcade franchises share some courses in common now.

[@Jeremy_Hill_2020]

the blow off valve sound on wangan midnight :0

[@nakazatotakeshi4286]

Wangan midnight: Speedy speed boy! Initial d: *insert nyan cat song here*

[@nakazatotakeshi4286]

@@raz3523 thats the joke

[@Andi-fh5lh]

@@raz3523 You got wooooshed

[@nakazatotakeshi4286]

@@raz3523 it's been a while but that's the joke. Apparently 2 peoples who liked your comment doesn't get the joke either huh. Here i got a gift for you: "How to understand obvious jokes 101"

[@tacticoolshaydes5349]

Still got enough money for a smartphone after rekting your R32 *TWICE* huh.

[@BeagleChanzxro]

XD funneh joken

[@greggschaftler1394]

The lighting is much better on IDAS, but WMMT's map seems to be much more detailed (I don't know which one is more accurate, though).

[@LmaoItsDead]

Well, they both have pros and cons

[@hisyamtsgame1141]

I think WMMT The IDAS basically Based on the anime while for WMMT I'm sure the developer made the map according to the latest conditions

[@caelari1722]

@@hisyamtsgame1141 @@hisyamtsgame1141 in this case, that part of the map in mt taikan is distorted and can not be seen in real life... try to look it in google map. like in c1 map, they put the the tokyo closer the expressway, hahahaha i don't know what is the reason. wmmt maps are detailed although some parts are not accurate in real life (distorted especially in the hanshin map), the lanes are wider that what is actually is but because that is an game, no matter if they too realistic or not at least you enjoy those.

[@GMNPrime]

Now I can notice clearly that there are some differences between Maxi5DX+ And Initial D Zero the time remaining in Initial D 0 is somewhat faster while Maxi5DX+ Time Remaining is slow,In Maxi5DX+ Near the end of the course to avoid confusion The course in Maxi5DX+ was a bit extended while the finish line in Initial D Zero is near the toll booth.

[@jinplusx9931]

Not relevant to the video but, feels like wangan for me is better if play solely on time attack and multiplayer is just a bumper car fest, no point of going 1st as you kept getting pushed around by other players, on top of that, npc cars combo train crash. Since wangan is a very high speed game, it felt so nice to play when there’s no player try to deliberately ruin your runs. Initial d games in general for me are more balanced for my taste, as it’s is still fun in time attack, but more fun in multiplayer. No matter how a player tries to ruin you, they will mostly lose speed due to mistakes, thus they become more eager and making even more mistakes just to catch up. Wmmt is full of straights. Depends on setup and the game hidden mechanic, the person behind will always catch up no matter what, even you have a better hp and speed and still getting catch up in a straight line and punt you into the wall or npc vehicles without a problem. If you are facing against ppl with heavy cars, most likely they are going to play ping pong. Other than that, wmmt is a great arcade racing game, it’s just the player base making me uncomfortable to play against.

[@jinplusx9931]

And don’t tell me playing ping pong is “pro”, is just system abuse

[@yaphong-weijonathan2683]

As a old timer like myself, i do agree with what you said as i also don't like the playstyle now. I played WMMT for 14 years already and i can tell you that when i started out in MT2, the players base isn't like this. It was really friendly back then. And Wangan isn't all straight. There are technical course like C1,Yuesu,Kobe,Hiroshima,Hakone,Hakone(Taikan).

[@yaphong-weijonathan2683]

The funny thing is even though the name is called Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune, a lot of player hates to play vs in Wangan as it's too straight.

[@jinplusx9931]

Im not that old of a player like you but yea, quite ironic that wangan supposed to mean highway and people complaining about lack of conners.

[@ghasmage8819]

Irony is not surprising

[@mattyaqin7501]

WMMT5DX+ : going over 300kmh throught the mountain.

[@リナカマ]

僕も両方ともプレイしますからこんな比較動画を作ってくれる人を待っていました。 ありがとうございます。 箱根はイニシャルDでは初級用のコースであまりブレーキを使わずに走れる峠ですが、湾岸だとコントロールするのが難しい超上級者向けのコースになっていて、馬力が全く違いますから当然ですけど走りに大きな違いがありますよね。 見てて思ったことは湾岸の方が景色が少し明るいと思いましたね。 それと景色はイニシャルDは夏（だと思う）で湾岸は秋風景という事と、イニシャルDと比べると湾岸の方が車線幅が広いですよね

[@リナカマ]

ついでですが、何で湾岸は新型の6ではなく5ＤXプラスなんですか？

[@後白河法皇]

@@リナカマ 恐らく、海外ではまだ6がリリースされていないからかと 間違っていたらすみません

[@コリナコロ]

確かイニDの箱根は車をフルスペにすると1番難しいらしいですよ

[@ゲベル]

大好き筋トレ つまり もしイニDに死神編が追加されると難しく思えてしまうと？

[@リナカマ]

大好き筋トレ 僕もフルスペックにしてありますよ

[@Sonyhandycam666]

Hi Falbere thx to make this video this video make me so happy cuz it's one of my childhood best moment when I was in Japan going down hill with my dad on a mr2 without doing a oversteer accident

[@jdjGSHBFjh68827]

What really sets the two games apart is their environment, atmosphere and the main purpose of both games. The roads in Initial D are tighter and dont give much breathing space, which worls as most vehicles in the game do not run beyond 250 at most. The color palette in Initial D is much more muted with more blues in most maps, which gives the sense of quietness and helps you focus a bit more. Night maps in Initial D are much darker which is accurate to the anime, being that most touge roads in Japan usually have few roadlamps to illuminate the road, or none at all, leaving you in complete darkness, aided by your headlights. And in general, Initial D focuses on your skill and reflexes. Decisive thinking and focus is the key to winning a race in the tight, twisting roads of Japan's mountainous roads. Wangan Midnight is the antithesis of all the aspects mentioned above. Many of the roads in the game are wider and longer which is pretty much telling you: "use the road, dont be afraid!" The color palette of the game is much more diverse and is more saturated, giving much of the game's environments more color and life. The only touge maps of Wangan Midnight i.e: Hakone and Mt. Taikan, have night maps fully illuminated at some points, despite Hakone being slightly much darker than Mt. Taikan. And while Initial D focuses on your skill on touge maps and drifting, Wangan Midnight focuses only on one thing: *speed.* None of that fancy schmancy drifting or whatever in this game, no. What matters and what helps you win is how fast you can really go in the many maps in the game. Push your car beyond the limit: you can go beyond 300km/h in Wangan Midnight.

[@dnkakusei]

Thank you Falbere, very cool!

[@kriszna7190]

No one can be better, initial d have his own style and wangan have own style, that's why we can play this games without saying ,,Wow those games are the same but initial d (wmmt) is better".

[@LThanhHao232]

Initial D is for drivers who like to drift as stylish as they can Wangan is for player who want test their reflex by dodging traffic at 300km/h

[@leol.8658]

@@LThanhHao232 i can tell you have never watched initial d before

[@LThanhHao232]

@@leol.8658 meanwhile I can actually name all the opponent Takumi ever faced, knowing what car they drove, knowing takumi victory over god arm is bullshit and shinji is just the author ass pull

[@LThanhHao232]

@@leol.8658 tell me the point of playing initial D is if not drifting as much as you like

[@leol.8658]

@@LThanhHao232 its not, initial d was all about the skill of the driver. The point of the anime was that it didn't matter what car you drive, it's how well you can drive it. I'm not gonna deny that some of the later stage races were asspulls, but you are mistaken if you think initial d is just all about drifting.

[@mailboxavenger644]

When it comes on graphics, Initial d might be the best but wangan midnight's physics is more realistic

[@nothinggood306]

Nt rlly, you dont see ppl drifting 200+ km/h

[@DrSabot-A]

The physics arent necessarily that much realistic, as AE86s and R33s dont go over 800hp. But to each their own, both games are fun in their own aspects and i play them both with as much fun lmao

[@tacticoolshaydes5349]

WMMT "physics" are technically more realistic but the extreme speed throws it right out the window. If its slower it would be really realistic

[@iriyuse2072]

湾岸勢と頭文字D勢の夢の共演! マジでサイコー！

[@りょう-l8z3f]

これで比較してみると、湾岸は車の周りが灯りで照らされているみたいだな

[@Crossdatsun]

Even though initial d's shading and lighting is better id go for wangan midnight maximum tune bc it seems more detailed and alive in a way less sponsor signs on the map

[@vipbeef2174]

For me Initial d Hakone feels more like a street for Wanagan Midnight Hakone to me still feels like a highway

[@DanielSong39]

They both look like terrific games but given the choice I would probably go with Wangan Midnight

[@bennybouken]

I don't understand why some people in the comments are comparing the speed. WMMT is a highway racing game people! Obviously the speed are going to be even more faster and the mountains were added for some added difficulty (Although in the manga there has been some mountain runs). Also, I believe it's just a waste of time if the devs are gonna make the speed somewhat realistic in WMMT lmao. It's already fine as it is.

[@juunda2523]

And IDAS Zero Is A mountain racing Game.. Car Speed ​​Only up to 220km

[@bitelaserkhalif]

Also, can you drove hiace on IDAS?

[@yaphong-weijonathan2683]

@@juunda2523 That is realistic speed already.

[@PlatinumNath]

@@juunda2523 More than that and its called suicide irl

[@Noire_.]

people here forgot that these are A R C A D E racers, not meant to be too realistic

[@m.halilintarjagatk.3189]

The one thing i like is just the camera while drifting.I wish i have that on my NFS 2015.

[@Doormatte]

Theyre both great games but the shifting if wmmt feels better in my opinion still great games on their own

[@manato_bnr34]

グラは圧倒的にDZEROだよなぁ 湾岸は常に車が後ろから照らされてるみたい、まぁベースが結構前の4と考えるならそんなもんか。

[@torebinn3384]

Manato Games[動画投稿] イニDもベースは9年前のD5だけどね

[@airis0323]

@@torebinn3384 DZEROは少しだけグラフィック変わってるんですよねぇ…

[@たにかわ-s1d]

大好きヤンデレ それを言ったら湾岸も変わってますよ 車の周辺反射効率、スモークの出かた、ブレーキランプの光り方など多少の事ですがイニDもそんなもんでしょw

[@mastonepaws]

WMMT 5DX is fast but when you turn it's slowing down but ID Zero is so slow but when you turn or drifting it's still fast

[@Z.OMOE_Tact1kul]

since we dont have initial D zero here in the phillipines we mostly play wangan midnight5DX+ and yes we only have the DX+ versions of wangan midnights here no 1 2 or 4 version but still very good game

[@azone1465]

Philippines had MAXI 2

[@maegjohncareeon639]

Yeah bro. Pero d2 sa Amin sa Ayala Cebu May Initial D Arcade Stage 3. Kaso isa lang.

[@realwhitegxroblox]

Both are great in their own ways

[@sailaser01]

3:07 the gas station on the right kind of looks a lot like the one you see in initial d

[@itzyryujin2697]

BANDAIナムコとSEGA、湾岸ミッドナイトとイニシャルDは最大のライバル関係

[@らいどん-o8q]

どっちの豆腐屋も魔改造しすぎなんだよなぁ

[@amdryzen9333]

2/19/2021 , 8.10pm (singapore time/date) Initial d just collab with Wangan Midnight

[@AGENTBVOCALOId]

yes

[@lylevillanueva8624]

Yes

[@harselfalah_r]

Yes

[@cyberneticxylem9614]

That actually is a thing now. There was a trailer recently.

[@shadowblitzo123]

2:45 that lightning. wmmt anyday.

[@shadowblitzo123]

+ city lights, peach trees, moon, toll/inspection booth

[@gianmadridiv]

Best collaboration on Racing games that I like

[@aruneko_h.kosakura]

改めて見てみると、 夜の時って湾岸の方が車見やすいんですねw

[@smug8802]

Initial D fans: What about physics? SEGA: Yes

[@rjgamboa3628]

There are both great, but for me Initial D is the best 👍😊

[@tjdgur032]

Hurricane man - Gold Rake

[@mikkobryanclear7237]

Who barry huang you're so awesome 👊👊👊

[@elangsuryanegara4230]

Mt. Taikan and Hakone area is the hardest route in WMMT, remember, WMMT is a highway racing game, so putting a highway tuned car in a touge route is just asking for more difficulty

[@SomeDayDreamer]

both look really good. Hi Falbere

[@IKATEN501]

WMMT5DX Graphics:8/10 Sound effects:9/10 IDAS0 Graphics:7/10 Sound effects:7/10 winner:WMMT5DX

[@rusi6534]

とりあえず言えること。イニD飛びすぎw

[@neashikanazoswiftydifty]

*Checks description* Initial d AS8 Infinity EXCUSE ME. what?

[@FalbereChan]

youtube doesn't know initial d zero exists

[@JamiesGrin]

Love the Vids :3 but I have always been wondering how are you playing Zero? I've been wanting to play it for a while now.

[@TheKrzysiek]

uwu wmmt uwu collab uwu ultra wide screen *UwU*

[@braindeadduck]

UwU

[@9nineofdiamonds]

Honestly, I was just watching you two just drive skillfully rather than comparing graphics

[@kanzakimiyamoto9440]

I mean, it's fair to say that Initial D Zero got those incredibly realistic graphics. But I enjoyed WMMT more than Initial D because the songs suit the scenario well and the gameplay itself is simple and smoother so... Yeah, in my opinion, WMMT wins this round

[@some_random_hachiroku6126]

I agree in the music part because why would they replace the song genre that gave Initial D its identity over J pop. There are only a few Eurobeat tracks in Arcade Stage Zero and I believe that they should return to Eurobeat songs unless something is preventing them from doing so then frick

[@kanzakimiyamoto9440]

@@some_random_hachiroku6126 Ikr

[@engineer_gaming6994]

The virgin wangan midnight 5dx: The Chad Initial D Arcade Stage Zero: Obviously each one has it's pros and cons

[@ryancoopersnissan240sx8]

Dat WMMD AE86 shift sound tho

[@Sammy-pw6qr]

Also r32gtr

[@古佐田俊博-t5r]

スピード感が正しいのはイニD。コースがリアルなのは湾岸だで。

[@marcuslai8645]

so apparently 235km/h in IDZ is almost same speed as 300km/h in WM5DX+

[@rally2727]

ID was sped up to match the MT pace

[@tubeytuber451]

WMMT FAV

[@木村拓也-c1d]

湾岸マキシは、S30。頭文字Dは、AE86を使ってます。箱根は、得意コースです。

[@chip599XX_VGRLeader]

Initial D arcade stage is my favourite

[@木村拓也-c1d]

箱根は、頭文字Dアーケードと湾岸マキシ共通でやってますから。とくにハチロクとS30Zはつかう。(たまにカローラとランエボ4とR34。)

[@yudhityasekarg64]

**claps** crosover the arcade thx barry and falbere

[@HAR-BPzn6]

普通に上手くてすごい(小並感)

[@misakipremixx]

WMMT seems really fast and the view seems shaked. Initial D S8 seems little slowed and the view seems shakeless

[@ahmadfitri3058]

I can see that in IDAS, it is shorter than WMMT isn't it my bud?

[@深红秋枫]

In the end,86 in wmmt is come back to the mountain.

[@gilbert64]

the 86 of initial d zero looks like that one from mountain vengeance but with rtx

[@GTChucker86]

The best initial d game is Battle Gear 3. It has almost all the initial d cars, tracks and “characters” while having the most realistic driving model for an arcade game, But the most realistic initial d experience is in assetto corsa

[@vip300]

Wmmt looks better and seems to be more accurate to me????

[@quacker66279]

Did u just yoink a machine from the arcade?

[@tilentgamer8758]

You probably wont read this But when I join your Initial D server the only thing that I see in the server is rules and information channel and acces channel But I cant even type there Help me pls

[@azone1465]

I think wmmtdx+5 is much harder

[@jettiful]

sega wins the soundtrack bgm here tbh

[@北の国から来たプリウス]

イニシャルD派

[@ChoboUnjeon]

what's the max hp in initial d arcade stage zero

[@amethystyeong7244]

i swear: The initial d AE86 is built DIFFERENNT, 233km/h is the same as 300km/h in WMMT 5DX. Imagine if the Initial D AE86 went 300 km/h, that would destroy the 300km/h in wmmt

[@SangHee7096]

can some tell me the music played in intro?

[@mailboxavenger644]

Can someone tell me if Hakone turnpikes/mt. Taikan and Tsubaki line are connected to each other?

[@4GRJ]

On the start, yes. They start from the same watchtower

[@judemarquez1552]

the car parts of initial d is unique because you can add above 10.000 rpm idk its me or namco didnt know that

[@rally2727]

for reasons of practicality WMMT make all cars suitable with their 10000 rpm racing meter it is quite 'true' since all cars received the exact same tuning program

[@Valkaze111]

The ae86 in initial d is kinda boxy compared to wmm5+

[@gaymer815]

isn't AE86 boxy irl

[@Valkaze111]

Ali Kapalıdere Yeah but you won’t see the sharp edges on the rear of the trunk and the rest. While the one irl is smoothened out

[@uccidere1939]

Wangan Midnight appears to have better textures, while Initial D appears to have far better lighting... So... I guess choose which one suits you better?

[@Fuji0929]

WMMT4DTX+ 293KPH < IDZ 234KPH 1:36

[@chulkyy]

5*

[@mocohide3061]

0:40あたりからのBGM Gold-Rake - Hurricane Man Initial D Arcade Stage 6 AA kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXqUY3hjq9CLm80 いろは坂を思い出しますね。

[@CandidaRosa889]

ありがとう、俺はこれを探してい。

[@電車でDick]

Song name?

[@lendleguanzon4753]

0:40 song name pls

[@thanapatth3160]

wait is it same map isn't it?

[@二次元野郎]

それぞれ楽しい‼‼(*つ´･∀･)つ でも画質よりも実際の景色に近い方はどっちなんでしょうかね?♪(*・ω・人)

[@CrazyDOX]

nice video~~!!

[@ほうらい-l6r]

個人的には頭文字dのほうがやりやすいです

[@horizon_angel]

I see both games, it's looks good. But I prefer wmmt, not just because it's the only racing games available in my nearest arcade, but also because of the "freedom". You make your own character, pick your own car, start your own story with the Z (which now the games creating your existence, making you one of the story character too) , battling other racer in ghost battles or the cursed vs battles, or just having fun drive in time trial. Sorry but I just don't see this kind of freedom in initial d ;")

[@FalbereChan]

Initial D you also pick your own car, create your own chara appearance, play story, away battle (similar to ghost battle), in-store VS, and time attack (time trial). In addition to that, you can customize individual bumpers, side skirts etc on your car, and choose different hair styles, face, eye shape, clothing, accessories for your character. Initial D also have online battle, play with randoms or friends real time from different shops/ arcades etc. Also, WMMT limit your car tuning to story mode, but in Initial D you earn driver points regardless of the game mode, and you freely choose to spend your points on visual customization or performance tuning (there are no locked aero parts) i think initial d have more freedom than WMMT, but both are good games

[@horizon_angel]

@@FalbereChan Oh sorry, becoz I don't have it here in Indonesia. Can you tell me the game you tell me just now? Lemme watch some on KZbin...

[@FalbereChan]

Initial D Arcade Stage Zero

[@lucaskun7951]

initial D Zero is the best!!

[@千葉せいき]

結論 　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　 イニD最高(個人の意見)

[@leman8626]

do you use keyboard for the ID games?

[@randomhondaeg6sirii486]

wangan: hahaha power go brrrrr initial d: corner go brrrr

[@n3xt214]

Idk why wmmt made it longer

[@SangHee7096]

intro music to video?

[@audii-kun6431]

You literally driver over 300kmh in Wangan Midnight

[@DrSabot-A]

My S30Z went over 410km/h once in the Wangan Eastbound leg

[@chulkyy]

@@DrSabot-A mine too, mine was a Lan Evo 9 being pushed by the AI in story mode

[@Naka_CBR1000RR]

湾岸の方が明らかに速度上なのに大して変わらないのは草

[@paipai283]

湾岸赤城 アザーカーが遅い説。コースが十分の一説

[@ナンバー-h5g]

イニD側早送りですよ

[@Naka_CBR1000RR]

シャル＝パチロク なるなる(・А・` )

[@demetriusdixon7482]

@@paipai283 yes

[@リナカマ]

それと湾岸は時々少しだけ巻き戻しをしている

[@kazkim87]

超上手です、俺なら接触待った無しwww

[@tobiasrenner3498]

I have to say that wangan midnight has better models of the cars, the ae86 looks kinda blocky and wide on Initial D, but both games have one thing I hate, a is that God dang camera that is stuck to the rear of the car

[@SangHee7096]

Intro song?