presenting five nights at freddys lore like i understand it

[@GeorgeMurphy1000]

Broke: Dear Evan Hansen Woke: Allegedly Evan Afton

[@IrregularityRowan]

Tired: Mrs. Afton Wired: Clara Afton(or whatever name you wanna give her)

[@larostern]

I think the worst thing about FNaF is, not the dozen or so murdered children but actually, that afton is British and in Utah

[@a.ghostling]

I'm british and sorry.

[@milesbuono4600]

keep that a bit accuret that dosnet exist

[@jpxfrd154]

The worst thing is that no one watches id fantasy's on the worst thing about fnaf.

[@Gafafsg]

I’ve seen a surprising amount of British Mormons in Utah tbh. And honestly…the Afton family being Mormon wouldn’t surprise me at all.

[@aliencafe]

@@Gafafsgthat would make so much of the insanity make so much more sense

[@averyeml]

I’m sorry but as an elementary school teacher I have never vibed more with a person more than “I came home, dissociated for 6 hours so hard I’m still dressed for work, and then did a deep dive into something stupid”

[@BobRoss-nj9et]

I’m thinking of going to school for being an elementary teacher, would you recommend or say I should do something else?

[@averyeml]

@@BobRoss-nj9et I mean, that’s up to you personally more than anything. Teaching is a dumpster fire right now but if you can ignore the other adults involved and just teach it’s good. Plus I’m using it to teach abroad and do cool things so it’s possible to make it special.

[@dragonfly._.doodles]

RIGHT

[@fiercestpond4722]

Astounding how blood and mucus were leaking out of robots in a place kids went missing and nobody checked the robots.

[@cryofpaine]

I mean, this did take place in a small town in Utah. It's not that much of a stretch to assume they're not exactly Sherlock Holmes.

[@prixe12]

@@cryofpaine Thats not sherlock holmes thats just common sense.

[@breadcrumb37]

thats basically what i expect from the american police

[@CarmsCelestia]

They most likely checked the robots and found nothing. Back in the og-Fnaf, the idea most likely was that Fazbear entertainment found the corpses and "cleaned" them. However, the Animatronics were still haunted, and would do what spooky stuff does: Leak body fluids. The hint we get for that is that they give the disclaimer about cleaning up first before calling the police. Doesn't restrict itself to employees, but possibly also victims.

[@antidotebrain69]

Bad police work is a staple of Horror. Bad decisions allow plot to happen.

[@MrPooleish]

"Lore Dumps from Non-Fans" is the kind of Outsider Art I enjoy the most.

[@Patodeagua213]

We need more videos like that

[@shjilz]

I was about to question your use of the term "outsider art" but then I thought about it and it does fit really well in this context. I take it you're referencing the genre "outsider music" - music made by either untrained musicians, i.e. The Shaggs, or musicians who are just unwilling to make "pleasant" or "cohesive" music, i.e. Captain Beefheart? I think that's a really good comparison to this type of video, although you were probably joking. There's so many videos like this, where someone who knows nothing or very little about something engages with it. The first thing that comes to mind are those videos of people getting their family or friends to judge and name characters based solely on their designs, i.e. a little girl being shown Overwatch characters and naming Winston "Gorilla". It's a very broad concept, actually, because it also covers blind reaction content, but I think that's okay because blind reaction content does share the same base appeal as videos like this video - someone blindly reacting to and reviewing something, the experience of watching someone develop an opinion of something you already like OR getting to develop your opinion as an outsider along with them. It's a very social/interactive genre and I think that's cool to think about. I love seeing the blind reactions of my family and friends to things I show them, and most everyone also loves doing that. So yeah, that's a good name for this genre of content. "Outsider content" as the umbrella term, "outsider videos" for this platform specifically?

[@alnharvey]

Absolutely! I’ve always wanted to make something like this and I think I’m inspired now

[@crypticmedicine]

Lol, it's like a long-form improv thing: "I heard about this weird thing, now let me spin my hot take into a master's thesis with the admitted caveat that I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing, but that's the point." It's "Wrong Answers Only: The Genre."

[@haleywhipjack]

over an hour of content and i never even mentioned the third love of my life, the sun robot they gave anxiety for some reason

[@margaretquincy3927]

As well as OCD and Moon.

[@jpxfrd154]

It's pronounced hurriken.

[@jpxfrd154]

Yes!

[@poppythedogofwonders]

You also forget the Moon who seemingly hates everyone including the children he was made to take care of, he hates the kids so much he was giving them nightmares and phobias of the dark like BRO.

[@antidotebrain69]

I know this sounds like torture, but could you do a video on the books? It's insanity, but I'd love to see you lose your mind. Also in the therapy tapes there's hints that Clara game ended herself after William divorced her "messily"

[@JakeArtist13]

Just imagine realizing your teacher didn’t go home and grade your assignments, no. She went home and talked about Five Nights at Freddy’s for an hour. Honestly… best teacher ever if she was my teacher

[@agwarddd]

“Sorry, Ms. Whipjack, I didn’t do my homework. But I saw your video on KZbin, so I know you didn’t either.”

[@alexac4293]

I think my favorite small detail in this franchise is the reason that the animatronics are so aggressive towards Micheal in the games is because *he looks like William* The animatronics are directly targeting him because they think he is the one who killed them

[@midnathething3751]

Piggybacking off of this point - I just like to ask, “How fucked up did William look for the kids to think scooped Michael looks like him??” Realistically they may have just never gotten a good look at William, but like… Michael was full on rotting and Urple man

[@allyson164]

I watched this with my autistic nephew and mom to give her an idea of what fnaf was about. She’s totally confused, but my nephew kept making me pause it to let me know that ‘Haley is right’. He was thoroughly delighted about your anti-William Afton stance and gave us all a solemn nod of praise when we asked for a review once we finished watching. So thank you for being entertaining and also helping this auntie figure out my boy’s current special interest.

[@marlo9065]

thats so cute, oml. Praise you

[@stwbmc98]

I love imagining her hearing all these stories about child murder and scooped bodies, looking over to her grandson as he says “Yes. This is all true.”

[@jpxfrd154]

I'm autistic and whenever I watch something with my parents I go back to make sure that they get everything lmbo.

[@taminostam9912]

@@jpxfrd154 i'm autistic too, but i don't have to bother cuz they're not gonna get it anyway

[@jpxfrd154]

@@taminostam9912 as in your parents are dumb? This is sarcasm. I say that seeing as autistic people usually take things literally.

[@eponymouselias]

For some reason I always assumed FNAF took place in New Jersey. I have no idea why but that’s where my brain went.

[@nerdherder9340]

I knew nothing about it until this vid but yeah, same

[@eponymouselias]

@@nerdherder9340 Big NJ vibes coming from that fucked up pizza place

[@aspenmavera9904]

It just has New Jersey energy

[@tiredofeverything2771]

Lawless wasteland

[@brickowls7886]

that is some New Jersey shit tbh

[@xxchesire_catxx8176]

Some clearing up about the bite of 87: 1) Jeremy was actually the security guard we play as in the first four nights of FNAF 2! He gets moved to the day shift before the last night, and gets chomped then (by, we assume, Mangle). 2) the reason the bite of 87 was such a big deal was because the bite of 87 was initially what we now call the bite of 83, which was when allegedly-Evan died. Scott ended up retconning 87 for 83 bc it worked better for the timeline, and made it so instead of a child being bit in 87, it was a security guard, which led to the closing of the Fnaf 2 Pizzeria.

[@zgredczwartyniesamowity363]

Thats shitty. Bite of 87 has such a great ring to it

[@xxchesire_catxx8176]

FR!!! I was a little mad about it at the time LMAO

[@YRTTSSFS]

for no.1 jeremy was just one of the alias’ michael came up with so he could work in the restaurants since he couldn’t use his real name bc of his dad , plus the fact that he kept getting fired at the end of each game

[@xxchesire_catxx8176]

Here to politely disagree. We actually play as Michael in fnaf 2, but only on the last night when he’s fired under the name Fritz for tampering with the animatronics and (I believe) odor (that’s how we know it was Michael cuz, yknow, rotting corpse). We know for a fact that Jeremy was an actual dude outside of Michael bc of this (and, though I could be wrong, bc of the paycheck he gets on the fourth night that says he’s been moved up to day shift. Or maybe it was the mention of a day shift coworker being attacked in the newspaper at the end of the game, again, could be wrong in that respect).

[@sunthorn4782]

@@YRTTSSFSIt’s assumed that Fritz Smith is Michael and not Jeremy Fitzgerald

[@Sk8erMonkey]

"Jonbenet Ramsey ARG" is not a string of words i'd ever thought i'd hear and yet here we are lol

[@TKtheBardess]

"Cronchin capabilities" is also hilariously wild to me😂

[@spenceduggs]

Something about the camera angle makes me feel like I'm tied up in a chair while you patiently explain FNAF lore in a slightly manic tone. I love it. More please

[@diagonallycuttoast2438]

as a fnaf fan. the lore just seems so normal because im desensitised but seeing someone freak out over it all is. enlightening.

[@antidotebrain69]

Ikr. It's weird seeing people freak out about the whole dead kids, no cannon motivation, thing. Also i wonder how she'd feel about the hints that Mrs Afton offed herself after a messy divorce from Security Breach. The therapy tapes.

[@sarucookie_4824]

Personally, I like to think that the reason William killed Henry's daughter is because Fredbear killed Evan. Michael, being a teenager horrified of what he just did, might have put the blame entirely on the animatronic. Since Henry made Fredbear, William simply assumed he was behind it.

[@onerandomdude4015]

Plus it also explains why he's denied from (what we assume is) a bar right after he killed Charlie in midnight motorist

[@dummdumm6735]

Yeah but in her timeline she put Charlie's murder before Evans

[@Fosiacz]

@@dummdumm6735 yea but its a slip up couse we know that the crying child's death was the thing that made william want to kil Charlotte.

[@dummdumm6735]

@fosiacz4783 Yup! Thats what I'm saying too.

[@TheAngelofFate17]

@@Fosiaczwait how do we know that? Was it confirmed? Like canonically? I always thought that he killed Charlie cuz he just wanted to cuz she just happened to be outside and alone at the time.

[@katt1206]

I love listening to people with ADHD explain things, just discovered it's even better when they only had one hour to find out the topic they're explaining lol

[@dummdumm6735]

It's one of my high past time. Like I find the longest videos I can about things like these. And then I get high and watch these long assignments videos. (I am currently doing that)

[@flukefantasy]

"Golden Freddy is a girlboss" is the best sentence I've ever heard in regards to this series

[@Cryptideer]

Gotta say, as someone who is absolutely obsessed with fnaf, this is mostly correct!!! The only things that are incorrect is Jeremy whats-his-face was a employee, not a child And, severely unfortunately, Clara is basically confirmed to be Ballora, due to a scene in security breach that depicted the afton family (as colored on and decrepit staff bots) at a table eating dinner, including circus baby Elizabeth, headless Evan, big brother Michael, suit wearing William, and Momma Ballora Everything else missed are minor details, like the other guy named Jeremy that glitchtrap drove crazy and made slice his own face off Overall, i loved this video and it was a joy to watch!!!

[@mads2928]

all of the Jeremys. one is now in bonnie one got his head cronched in 87 as a security guard and one cuts off his own face. lesson here? dont be a Jeremy in utah.

[@haleywhipjack]

THERES A THIRD JEREMY??

[@cryofpaine]

@@haleywhipjack The third Jeremy was part of FNAF AR, and we only hear about him in emails the game sends you.

[@TenshiLove5]

​@cryofpaine I think you're thinking of Luis. Jeremy 3 is from VR, the story that tape girl gives us.

[@likikoari]

The Ballora is Clara theory is still one that is hotly debated and I don't remember the Exact common theories from around when this was posted but from what I do remember people really disagreed then as much as they do now

[@leotheskyguy]

Haley unapologetically defending Michael Afton is probably why youtube recommended me this channel. Subbed

[@justadude450]

43:44 I thought everyone agreed that was Micheal, I'm pretty sure every night guard was Micheal trying to fix what his dad did. Every game ends with you being fired for messing with the robots (to try to free the kids) and stinking (because you're a rotten corpse). FNAF 3 ends with him setting the building on fire to try to get rid of William once and for all.

[@notaleaf]

You are mostly correct! However the bite of 83 happens, Evan dies and THEN William kills Charlotte in revenge because he blames Henry for Evans death. He kills Charlotte by luring her out by herself and then killing her, the puppet comes out and Charlotte possesses the puppet. Which helps explain the Henry monolog :)

[@papill0nia]

That’s what I was gonna say! The real mystery is why he killed more kids after her, since he only started to suspect about reminent after Cassidy

[@TheAngelofFate17]

@@papill0niathere’s a study that shows that when a serial killer kills for the first time, they enjoy and so they continue to do it to chance that feeling every time. So the the reason why William continues to kill is likely cuz he just likes it and killing Charlie was what sparked it

[@Thecowboymaster]

While that is a popular theory, it IS just a theory, not confirmed, so we can't really say that's verbatim to the story.

[@dyllanfulton1396]

I thought it was Elizabeth->Charlotte->Evan? Like he kills Charlie because he wants Henry to lose his daughter, too.

[@destrauk7099]

Was looking for this comment so I wouldn't have to! Thanks & cheers mate 🍻

[@tjcarr9881]

"Man about town William Afton" Now I'm picturing him as Rick Diggins and honestly the suit and top hat feels right

[@tjcarr9881]

Also the way you say kermonch makes my brain happy, which is great bc you say it a Lot during this video, 10/10 no notes

[@adeleighparcell6637]

No joke, I watch this video at least once a week. Usually twice. It is, hands down, one of my absolute favorite videos on the internet and it never fails to make my day better when I come back and rewatch. Half the views are probably mine.

[@dankicalamari6528]

same with me omg i’m obsessed with everything abt this video

[@HiBuddyyyyyy]

I’m happy for you. It’s great when you find something like that.

[@frogplushie9357]

literally same omg, i'm here rewatching for the second time this week already

[@GaimerGai]

As someone else who has a strange second-hand love/hate relationship with this series, I feel so validated right now. Also, as someone from Utah, I too am just as baffled to see it included in... anything. Much less the child murder robot series.

[@antidotebrain69]

Isn't that normal for the 80s/90s slasher style this is based on?

[@Its_Asteria]

Same here. As another utahn. I never thought it'd take place in utah and Hurricane no less. Which is where my parents met, and went to high school together AND got married in, they had me in st George. It's so wild to me how close to home fnaf LITERALLY is for me and I grew up with this franchise. It's near to my heart but I also have a love/hate relationship with how complicated the lore got after Fnaf 6: pizzeria simulator.

[@GaimerGai]

@@Its_Asteria Hundo P same. Spent my Teenage years in St. George and when they were like "This happened in hurricane" my first thought was "but there is nothing in Hurricane."

[@chondrya942]

Also from utah, and even as someone interested in the series, it deals me psychic damage every time i remember it takes place in my home state lol

[@NotGoingAnywhere608]

Another utahan here. I was in shock to learn it takes place in Utah(and Hurricane?). I wonder how Scott chose utah, and l literally believe he pulled out an American map then closed his eyes and put his finger down randomly.

[@TheSadowdragonGroup]

As an aside, an interesting thing is that Glamrock Freddy may only be non-homicidal because Gregory is a child. The haunted animatronics did adult murders because they were trying to protect kids, not just because of their PTSD about having been murdered.

[@theeleventh805gamer7]

It’s explained that Freddy can’t kill Gregory because he was on safe mode after his collapse. Same with eclipse in ruin when he sees Cassie

[@Sammy_The_Umbreon]

I love fnaf lore cause it's just so out of left field. Like, look at that jumpscare game, it has a bunch of dead kids, and is set in the 80s, and in Hurricane Utah, oh wait there's possession, and immortality????, purgatory is a canonical place in the games, oh no we're going full meta and digital, oh wait there's also a bunch of books with different stories, like a timetraveling ballpit and vore and mpreg??????

[@cuckoobrain7999]

I'm sorry the books have WHAT!?!

[@Scarylyn14]

@@cuckoobrain7999eah my 13 yo cousin told me about the mpreg so casually that I just couldn’t touch the books 😂 I was so shocked that he was so nonchalant about it all when I googled what else was in the books 😂

[@Deadflower019]

@@cuckoobrain7999Can confirm, I read the first five Fazbear Frights. They were good for what they were, but the FNaF goes _wild._ Also, the guy who gets Mpregged is named _Matthew_ which is so fucking funny.

[@-alovelygaycat-]

@@Deadflower019 MatPat gave birth to a Springtrap and I feel like we don’t talk about that enough

[@Deadflower019]

@@-alovelygaycat- we really don't. If memory serves, when he _does_ get around to talking about that story, he just mentions that the main character was named Matthew and was written as an asshole and goes "very funny guys" and glosses over the fact he semi-canonically gave birth to springtrap in the (a?) FNaF universe.

[@freyaandresen5397]

I have never played fnaf and know almost nothing about it apart from this video, so this may not be 100% correct lore but this is now my cannon.

[@loganwillselizondo8235]

I know she’s talking about terrible serial murders in a horror video game series, but damn if Haley’s voice isn’t just incredibly soothing

[@antidotebrain69]

Your pain at trying not to sound like a psycho explaining how you absolutely agree that child murder is bad is such a mood.

[@owlthebooks]

The idea of Vanessa putting William Afton/Glitchtrap's consciousness inside his corpse as a form of malicious compliance in response to his brainwashing of her is honestly kind of hilarious. (William Afton's Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Day part 2 - AI edition!)

[@OBSDCC7]

What you’re missing regarding the Bite of ‘87 is that Jeremy wasn’t a random kid. He was the new nightguard, and was attacked because he was mistaken for William

[@chaossmith3864]

Night guard put on the day shift for a birthday party, right?

[@OBSDCC7]

@@chaossmith3864 Correct

[@chaossmith3864]

@@OBSDCC7 Thanks! I was pretty sure I remembered right, and thought why not have a conversation by asking.

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

Michael Afton’s self-possession reminds me of an idea I had for a movie when I was younger. The premise was basically Dead Heat meets The Crow meets the Possession of Hannah Grace. A woman would possess her own corpse to avenge her own death, and as the movie went on the more rotten and destroyed her body would become. Haven’t got a title yet.

[@catelynh1020]

"Dying to meet you"? "What it takes"?

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

@@catelynh1020 The working one is “Active Decay”.

[@-alovelygaycat-]

I’d read/watch this in a heartbeat. I love this concept so much. Please tell me you’re writing this somewhere. I need to see this somewhere.

[@PomegranatePomPom]

Bro, I absolutely need this. It sounds so cool. Yeah, tell us if you wanna write it down.

[@JaysieeisyaJ]

I would watch or read this for sure! It made me think of Dead Wife aka Laura Moon in the American Gods series, which I really loved her character (partially because I really love the actress that plays her, Emily Browning!) Also, I'm not saying that's exactly what happened to her character in the show (it's been a few years since I watched it so I'm not sure I remember exactly what her story was) I'm just literally saying this idea made her pop into my head, lol.

[@logikel]

as a long term FNAF fan this was an absolute joy to watch. I'm genuinely impressed that you were able to get all this together in one hour of research?? like obviously it's not all 100% there but you know that and that's not the point. this was incredibly entertaining, and very well done

[@logikel]

no idea how much you care about the details, but here's a fun lil info dump (to the best of my knowledge, cannot guarantee canonicity outside of my years-long hyperfixation on these games) if ur interested: the second round of children I don't think possess anything? it's kinda contested I think but if I remember correctly the toy animatronics weren't technically haunted, they were just twitchy and on the lookout for baddies. and since we think Michael afton post-scoop was the OG night guard, he looks like his dad so they see him as a criminal. they just tackle him and cuz they're twitchy they kill him instead? could be wrong but that's what I've seen ppl say Jeremy what's his face, the 87 bite victim, wasn't a child. dude was the daytime security guard. this gives no additional context to why he gets bit, but im 99% sure it's been confirmed it was OG foxy who did it cuz his jaws broken. amazing how the human body can survive without the frontal lobe and all that screw timeline issues, michael is literally possessing his own corpse and is absolutely the guy at fazbear frights, screw the books lol also I have nothing to comment on regarding sb cuz the lore of that game was and is a hot mess, tho I do like the theory that glamrock Bonnie was broken down to make a body for/repair the og body of burntrap. yeah btw that's not even close to confirmed, ppl just think it makes sense. we just ignore all the reasons that don't make it work oh and if we're considering the burntrap ending the canon one then yeah we have no idea what happens to Vanessa. I have doubts that she's fine, at the very least I think she's still vanny, but that's from a logic or game design standpoint and not the game itself. tbh fnaf fans have been chugging copium for the last year or so edited to add more as i went and as things occurred to me. i tried to follow along with ur chronology as much as possible. thank u for letting me wordvom lmao

[@meaninglesscommenter8457]

the worst part of the fnaf timeline is that we dont know the first death. it couldve been charlie, elizabeth, evan, or the kid that possesses chica

[@thisisyouraverageperson]

That kid that possesses Chica is Susie if you forgot

[@szyszysz]

I like to belive the first death was Evan because it gives William motive to murder Charlotte

[@meaninglesscommenter8457]

@@szyszysz that’s what i think as well personally

[@grit1]

Given that the Puppet "gives life" to the four others, I'm almost positive (but who knows with this series) that Chica couldn't have been first.

[@vincentpey3929]

​@@grit1the mci happens in 1985, i think the puppet gets posessed in a timeframe between 1985 and 1987 and is giving gifts/Live to the classics during the events of Fnaf2 as the classics only gradually reactivate over the course of the nights.

[@maravreloaded]

27:54 Funny enough, Molten Freddy (who is basically like the leftovers of the Funtime amalgamation) literally says _"what a big family reunion"_

[@cloudboybebop]

i am so glad that you loved henry and his monologue as much as the rest of the fanbase. also yes it was SUPPOSED to basically end there, the afton/henry/purple guy storyline was gonna be wrapped up there are and scott/the fanbase was ready to move on. butttt then some big money companies were like “let’s make more games” and Scott was like “lol okay but im out bye guys” so now it’s kinda… just a mess that won’t stop haha.

[@jokets_life4656]

"a mess that won't stop" just like William

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

Truuuuueeeee

[@yosh9192]

As the FNAF equivalent of a cantankerous old man who yells at the kids to get off my lawn and who complains about how "back in MY day people thought there were two Purple Guys and that Mangle's noise was police radio chatter", I approve of this video

[@MichaelHaneline]

I'd assume over the past year SOMEONE pointed this out, but I don't see it: The whole reason Vanessa becomes Vanny is that during the playtest, Glitchtrap slowly learned to "infect" living people. Vanessa wasn't the only one he did this to, but she's the one we've actually seen directly.

[@krussyarts]

The sheer delight in your voice when you talk about William getting springlocked

[@mothysjar]

as a long time fnaf fan i adore this video more than life itself. you truly captured the complete bafflement and "what the hell was scott thinking" energy that the entire fandom has been having for a decade.

[@GladstnJones]

Everyone: "The books are a separate Canon from the games, so we won't use those." Matpat: *looks around nervously

[@nessie7306]

The books are a pretty important part of the lore, and without them we wouldn't know about Henry Emily, we wouldn't have clues about William's motivation, we wouldn't know about remnant, etc, etc. Especially right now with the Tales from the Pizzaplex books, The Mimic, Edwin, we can't ignore the books anymore. It sucks but it's the truth

[@GladstnJones]

@nessie7306 we can ignore them with willful ignorance, it's kept me sane so far.

[@jaernihiltheus7817]

They are canon in that certain themes, mechanics of certain things, and some small details overlap. They are not canon in that things in the books didn't literally happen the way the books say they do, and most stories have nothing to do with - or are never mentioned in game.

[@GladstnJones]

@@jaernihiltheus7817 I am not accepting robot children

[@panickyandy8291]

Every time she says "Utah" like she can't believe that's the word coming out of her mouth it just kills me 🤣

[@ckat13]

1. Thank you for making me fall down the fnaf lore Rabbit hole 2. I've downloaded this video for easy replay 3. 'It's called The Scooper. It *scoops*' lives rent free in my head

[@lunarviolets]

this is my third watchthrough of this over the past year and i think that my takeaway is that fnaf is a masterclass in everything that the good place wanted to and successfully did avoid becoming: nightmarish, convoluted, and confusing as hell

[@thatlycantomboy]

mentioning fnaf in the same sentence as the good place is hilarious and you’re so right.

[@cursedGalataea]

this

[@PomegranatePomPom]

I have a love hate relationship with this lore. It's so cool and STUPID at the same time ahhhhhh

[@MisterTTG]

from what i understand of this franchise, "criticizing Security Breach for its lore additions" is a vital part of any FNAF lore deep dive

[@redlemonsydney]

a lot of people, me included, think "evan" dies before charlie, which is what motivated william - drunken rage and jealousy of henry's family. also, judging by the imdb page for the upcoming movie and a few social media posts made by the cast, "evan"'s name is likely actually "garret"

[@Terminallyposessed]

They def just slapped a random name on the kid for the movie 😂

[@redlemonsydney]

@@Terminallyposessed actually, garrett was one of the theorized names from the survival logbook!

[@Alphasnowbordergirl]

Pretty sure movie is a different canon from teh cames. Just like in the books Cassidy's character isn't named Cassidy. I believe Even was revealed in the Security log book along with Cassidy.

[@redlemonsydney]

@@Alphasnowbordergirl evan was another theorized name from the survival log book, yes, but it seems garrett is the canon one now. Sure, theres differences in names and roles between canons here and there, but if we cant use names from other canons, we cant use charlie, and technically not henry either, as those are both from the books - the closest we get in the games is henry being referred to as HRY - but the supplementary material has confirmed these names to be canon to the games as well, so garrett likely will be too

[@marsh1159]

The movie also says Elizabeth's name is Abby so I would take it with a grain of salt

[@jetpackblues9193]

I only ever watched Wendigoon's retelling of the story before (in which he pointed out that it is more his own interpretation of the story and not necessarily accurate) and he explained that William killed Charlie after Evan died and he accidentally killed Elizabeth, which caused Henry to kick him out of business and William wanting revenge for that. The fact that, canonically, there is NO REASON William started murdering children is incredibly hilarious XD.

[@shaelynmartin1996]

There's actually no way of knowing canonically because it's never stated which incident happens first. The wiki is written by the fans, not Scott and the wiki is wrong about some things (Like Michael not being able to be the security guard in FNAF 3 because the timeline somehow wouldn't add up(???)). Some people like the idea of William killing Charlie first for no explicit reason other than him evil (Usually the younger fans who need that clear line of evil and good with no room for nuance). Others like the idea of Allegedly-Evan dying first and William killing Charlie in a misplaced act of revenge against Henry (Usually the older fans who like to have understandable (Even if unforgivable) reasonings behind character actions). I personally prefer if Evan dies first and then William kills Charlie because I like the narrative explanation. I'm not fond of "this character randomly becomes a child murderer because he's EVIIIIIIIIIL" thought process. I also like to believe that William isn't after immortality as the Silver Eyes books suggest (In which he's just pure evil for the sake of it and I don't think has any children to speak of), but instead because he made the promise to Evan that he would "put him back together" while Evan was on his deathbed. More narratively satisfying that way in my opinion.

[@MissMyce]

This is probably like 80% correct which is like at least 20% more correct than I’d be able to explain. Also very very funny thank you Haley

[@WaywardRailroad]

I didn’t know how much I needed a fun elementary school teacher to explain FNAF to me, but here we are!

[@crowlowin4330]

Seeing someone who hasn’t been immersed in this lore for years react to it is wild. Like yeah William Afton killed a whole bunch of kids for… immortality or something? And theorists tend to be more focused on what kids went in what robots than how fucked up that is

[@GippyHappy]

“A ghost possessing a zombie” is such a cool idea I can’t believe it’s in Five Nights at Freddy’s

[@SpecialInterestShow]

Wait wait they noticed BLOOD and MUCUS coming out of the robots and nobody thought "Hey maybe we should check that"

[@Haunted_Plush]

Fun fact about dying to a springlock suit, you don't just get inhaled by all the mechanical parts in there, but your lungs get punctured and you end up drowning in your own blood :]

[@bimpadimp]

something funny and interesting i've been pondering since getting into fnaf lore is the similarities between fandom culture and theology. a bunch of people look at these source materials and pick apart the details and debate about what details mean, timelines for when each piece of text takes place, what pieces of text are canon, and come up with their own theories about what the text is trying to say about our world/life/etc

[@melodytheatre2887]

I think it’s heavily implied that Clara/Mrs. Afton committed suicide after losing a custody battle with William. Vanessa in SB/HW shares a lot of similarities with Elizabeth to the point where she’s got to be a parallel of some sort, and we know that her mom killed herself after losing custody of Vanessa due to Vanessa’s dad, Bill, manipulating the courts. There was also a little staffbot family setup in the Pizzaplex that was very much meant to represent the Afton family (mother dressed like Ballora, sister dressed like Circus Baby, a brother with no head and brother wearing an employee uniform) where there’s some dialogue between the wife and husband about her leaving him. So, likely, Clara got fed up with Willy after a bit and divorced him, after which he then manipulated the courts into giving him full custody over all of his children, leading Clara to kill herself. It’s a possibility that the mysterious buried mound is her grave.

[@lauren-ko7mr]

i had youtube on autoplay and i fell asleep as you were describing the characters in ice age 5 and woke up as you were describing all the characters burning to death in a restaurant and i gotta tell you, that took me on quite an emotional journey at 9 in the morning

[@CrazyUncleSam24]

going from wendigoon's video on fnaf to this gives a real drunk-uncle to wine-aunt kinda feel and I couldn't be happier

[@moonym6555]

I have had longer conversations about jeremy fitzgerald with a friend than you did research on this timeline, im pleasantly suprised how well you captured the insane vibes of fnaf. And i laughed so fucking much

[@cosmobaker6240]

The fact that you said you were making stuff up to better suit the timeline in your head is so real, making a fnaf timeline is honestly nothing more than writing fanfic (from my personal experience)

[@DexDexter0]

Cassidy's insisting she's "the one you should not have killed" always gets me. Like the other dozen or so children were okay to brutalize

[@K_i_t_t_y84]

That's literally not what she means?! More like, "(if you expected a peaceful afterlife) you shouldn't have killed me." None of the other children's souls were angry enough to trap Afton in hell forever, just her.

[@luckofthedevil3794]

How have I just discovered this channel! It's so good! As for your Fnaf knowledge, it's great aside from the fact that William does have a reason to have killed Henry's daughter, since Evan is actually killed by the yellow Freddy spring lock suit that Henry had a hand in building, so he wanted revenge and decided to kill Charlotte in retaliation.

[@luckofthedevil3794]

Not that I'm justifying it, just saying ^^

[@allisonyoung5626]

I was lookin for this comment

[@khalogqubule5412]

Honestly, nothing makes me happy the same way as watching someone taking a crack at the lore for vibes rather than answers. ...and then you called Cassidy a girlboss, and I was shown true bliss💀

[@dankicalamari6528]

i love everything about this video, especially how casually you talk. it makes this video so much more fun to watch rather than me just frantically trying to pay attention to all the lore. this is amazing :)))

[@shawnritz]

i think one of the reasons Cassidy was so mad (apart from being murdered) was that she was stuffed in the Golden Fredbear suit while it was still in its mascot form. Because the mechanics were spring locked out of place for someone to wear it was essentially a ragdoll. So cassidy has been possessing Fredbear for however long while being completely unable to move that’s also why a popular GIF of Golden Fredbear is him sitting on the floor convulsing

[@Nikster4]

I was impressed with how much you got correct tbh, the only thing that was just so wrong was that Jeremy from the bite of 1987 was not in fact a child but a security guard which is why he got bitten. Loved listening to you though, very enjoyable video keep it up girl

[@The_Newt12]

For those who don’t know the name Evan (crying child allegedly ) was found in a colouring book… 😅 Welcome to FNAF🎉

[@dummdumm6735]

Is the log book a coloring book? I've never actually seen it. Just heard about it

[@caslam8286]

@@dummdumm6735as far as i know, no. i don’t remember about the coloring book, but the log book is like a game book, with word search and such.

[@The_Newt12]

@@caslam8286it was probably the log book then, at this point im so deep in the lore, I could not tell you accurately were we found half the stuff we’ve figured out

[@sapphirek5244]

This is the most fun I have had watching FNAF lore. It feels like we’re gossiping about the town loons.

[@dummdumm6735]

I have watched this fucking video 4 times. I am ON MY FIFTH. and it makes me laugh hysterically every. Single. Time.

[@soapeating_simulator]

same i love it

[@batgrrrlcock]

as teacher currently hyperfixating on fnaf lore and rewatching this i don't think you understand how relatable you are

[@evanjuleen]

Either Ms afton plays an important role in the plot later on or FNAF, written by a mormon man, takes place in a mormon state and the wife doesn't have a role and we all just all experienced the culture.

[@zey6123]

i think haley whipjack is my favorite person on the internet

[@EoinW974]

The topic of your videos are so unpredictable. It's amazing.

[@haleywhipjack]

someday i may may have an actual niche here but it is not today

[@EoinW974]

@@haleywhipjack If it ain’t broke and all that

[@DaBigMan550]

Loved it! Ive never played/ watched lets plays of these games so I came into this with even less knowledge than you did, and this whole thing was WILD. I dont think anyone else could have pulled this off/ made me want to watch an hour of FNAF lore but youre hella funny and have a really good voice to listen to. Cant wait for Arc 8!

[@gamerninja6741]

Imma be real, this is probably the best time i have ever had watching a fnaf timeline video

[@familialdysautosis2717]

It was the "Anger issues. ON THE BIG CROCODILE?!" that got me

[@violetslit]

girl you are HILARIOUS i love your narration sm. i would seriously listen to a podcast of you going deep into random lore lol

[@killerwizrd555]

there mustve just been nothing else in utah for all those customers to keep coming back

[@ihave7up713]

Clara Afton returning to England to plant a garden is now as much canon to me as anything else in this franchise, perhaps more.

[@bluejaypirate4560]

Im obsessed with your apparent beef with Utah. Love the way you just keep going "in UTAH"

[@geraldnesbitt6992]

He murdered Charlie, for suspected jealousy as he thought that Henry deserved to lose a child after the death of his child Elizabeth due to Circus Baby

[@WolvaHyrule]

“My condolences to the WhatsHisFace estate” is my new favorite line ever

[@MrPooleish]

I didn’t realize they'd built the Mega-Pizza Palace on the burnt out remnants of a haunted 1980's Pizza Shop. Who does that?

[@galactic.cl0ud]

Fazbear Entertainment of course. The most sane company to exist.

[@nevaehaho61]

There’s a theory that the animatronics (at least a in the first game) are after the security guard because the security guard (who goes by “Mike Schmidt”) is probably Michael Afton, who also probably resembles his dad, who killed the vengeful spirits that are in the killer robots. Most people seem to somewhat agree that the robots are mistaking Michael for William so they’re attacking him, and the security guard only keeps coming back every night because he’s emotionally invested in this whole situation, so Mike is going back every night to figure out what the heck is going on

[@NxTTxT]

it's incredible how much of this franchise's lore is lowkey hypothetical and decided by the fans

[@faeriesorceress]

"and why did Clara marry William? What did she see in him?"...Well, according to my 10y/o self's 50k words blogspot self-insert fanfiction - a lot.

[@jellaux]

here to let you know the security breach dlc (ruin) came out and it makes things soooooo much weirder

[@wynterfir]

Cassidy is and will forever be my favorite closely followed by Charlie. Not only does Cassidy not give a flying fuck about what Afton’s reasons were, she actively tortures Afton in UCN which is a girlboss move. Fun Cassidy Facts (allegedly): - Cassidy is the soul haunting GF of course, but it is believed she is roomates with Evan. In my opinion its not that Evan’s rememant is attached to the GF suit, but instead in the plush toy from FNAF 4 which has been stuffed into GF at some point. This is mostly because the way remenant works would make the endo only able to accept 1 soul. - Cassidy’s name was revealed in a crossword from a book Michael Afton is believed to have been reading, and she seems to have been talking to Evan. - Cassidy doesn’t show up in Pizza Sim so her Remenant has not been burned (remenant disappears at high enough temperatures, hence Henry burning everyone lol). - She is the ring master of UCN because she’s just angrier than everyone else. The other kids are following Charlie at this point and it doesn’t seem like they want anything to do with UCN, but have instead been trapped by Cassidy. I think withered bonnie has a voice-line where he’s like, ‘I know you’re trapped and perhaps I am as well’. Which give the impression that the 4 + Charlie are trapped there against their will. - She’s referred to as, “the one you should not have killed” multiple times. - There’s a theory that she either the one playing Fnaf World and learning about what happened, or she’s talking to Michael who is playing. But they’re both talking to Evan it seems. I personally think she’s the one playing because of the interaction with Old Man Consequences. More fun facts/theories: - Remenant can be divided up, and that is what is moving the minirinas (I think). - The second incident of child murders doesn’t end in possession of the toy animatronics (as people thought), it seems William was trying to research remnant with the second batch of child murders and failed to haunt more animatronics. - Remember how I said that remenant can split up, well thats what we think is moving the rest of the animatronics. Since parts from the old animatronics were used to build the toy forms. - Springlocks lock when they come into contact with water hence Evan’s crying wasn’t doing him any favors when he got chomped. - It is believed Susie’s (Chica) dog is possessing Mangle hence its more animalistic nature. - The Chica animatronic wasn’t originally part of the Fazbear cast and instead from a previous franchise which Fazbear entertainment bought. Which seems to be why the animatronic side of Chica in UCN states, “I am the First, I have seen everything.” This of course cannot be Susie since she was in fact not the first, that was Charlie. So the idea that it is the animatronic stating she’s seen all the murders makes sense because Chica as a character and animatronic did indeed exist before all the others. - The Scooper functions not only as a express endoskeleton remover, but a remenant injector. - This injection function is the reason Baby says, “You will not die” because remenant has “healing” properties as seen in the book series. So not only did Michael see and was conscious for the hole scooping and skin suit situation, but when they left him he was still alive and very necrotized. He has been slowly healing because of the remenant up until his death in Pizza Sim. - Its also believed that Michael would’ve been able to see the ghosts of the 5 and Charlie because the remenant he was injected with was assumed to be a mix of all of theirs. The whole seeing of ghosts is shown in the exact same incident where it is revealed remenant can heal since the dude was talking with the kids. - It seems that Baby was booted from Ennard because 1 shes the murderers daughter (and the animatronics in sister location are injected with the remenant of all the kids he murdered), but she was also incredibly bossy. They were likely chill with Baby the AI and when Michael removes it and Elizabeth (William sympathizers extraordinaire) took over they don’t like her anymore. - The happiest day was likely meant to help the kids including Charlie to rest in peace, but Cassidy the angriest girl refuses to join in and eventually drags everyone into her torture of Afton. Hence why all the og animatronics and puppet are all like “we’re not afraid” “we’re trapped as well” and the whole ‘I don’t like you and I won’t forgive you but I want to rest’ deal from Charlie. I think Evan might be the only one who isn’t involved with Ucn. Even Henrys there as Old Man Consequences and he’s trying to convince Cassidy to give it up and let everyone rest. - The animatronics in Security Breach aren’t haunted through remenant (only molten freddy and Afton in the basment are) the glamrock robots are just that robots with corrupted AI. Though the corruption is indeed fishy since it is Afton fucking with everything from beyond the grave as an AI. I personally think OG Afton is still in UCN, unfortunately for the children - Cassidy included - who are unable to rest. Hopefully Cassidy gets what she needs so she can sleep. Word vomit ended, I do have more and I still probably got a lot wrong (I’ve been in the fandom since the first game and I get different theories confused sometimes.) Again Cassidy will forever be my favorite lol. She’s just such a absolutely rage filled child who through sheer force of will is jerking souls around like it’s no issue.

[@twobats]

i genuinely love this so much. you had me laughing more or less the entire way through. it's so great to hear someone new-ish to the lore love Michael and hate William as much as most of us do!! also, if no one's commented about this yet, i think it's confirmed that (allegedly) Evan possesses Golden Freddy alongside Cassidy. also also never going to call crying child anything but (allegedly) Evan now

[@Alfred_The_Late]

OK, so there are a few issues in this, but aside from these this video was great yeah: 1. The scooper's primary use is for remnant collection. 2. Michael never actually died, he was just becoming a living breathing, decomposing zombie while Ennard had a sudden bout of split personality disorder. 3. Henry is not perfect but he means well and that's what matters :) 4. Elizabeth was not impaled just grabbed. 5. Allegedly Evan Afton's incident with Fredbear was a spring lock as the suit suddenly locked down due to the moisture of his tears and his erratic movement as he was stuffed in there so when the spring locks locked it crushed a part of his skull, Rest In Peace crying child. 6. We think we know Evan's name from the fnaf log book, but we aren't certain that it is cannon. 7. The spring Bonnie suit that William Afton wore is from Fredbear's family diner. 8. Jeremy is an adult and he was the night guard from the second game and there is much legend and speculation on who bit Jeremy Fitzgerald (I think it was Toy Bonnie who very aggressively after all the animatronics had been tampered with by probably William Afton, "kermonched") but the incident has now become a legend. 9. 42:00 yeah uhh, unsolved mysteries with murderous robots would make an awesome horror attraction, shame they went too vintage and couldn't face the heat. :) 10. No William afton just never died, in that spring lock incident, but he only finally died, many years later, in FNAF 6. But he was not gone. He never is. He never will be. He shall never rest. He is like cain, he shall walk the earth till the end of days, he may be struck down but never gone. Never forgotten. 11. Yeah it is fnaf 3 that Springtrap was in. 12. In that ultimate monologue in fnaf 6, he states, "And to you, my brave volunteer, who somehow found this job listing not intended for you," this means, that it was not Michael because he said not intended for you, but in all fairness to you this is a thing that many more well researched fnaf fans stumble into. 13. We think that the pizza plex was built on the old fnaf 6 pizzeria because o'l Willy Afton was buried down there for evil villain plotting stuff but we're not completely sure.

[@times2die]

and also we literally see the stages that the animatronics used during pizza sim in the burntrap ending lol

[@times2die]

also it WAS michael. henry just didn't expect it to be michael, he didn't even know he got scooped or anything like that. he just thought he was out living a normal life. the person he intended it for was probably just someone random, i mean henry did allow william's murdering to go unchecked for years so he's not entirely innocent

[@Alfred_The_Late]

Also Henry made lefty so not that innocent yeah. (I know it was accidental but he still did something wrong so I think it counts.)@@times2die

[@Alfred_The_Late]

I don't really think that it was Michael because he would be the best bait for all of them but guy worked fine. I think that it was the second voice we heard in fnaf 5 in the brief opening scene because he was questioning of William and was obviously unsatisfied with William's answer. (He was unused and forgotten about so I think he could be used to fit that roll. just a head cannon though we don't actually have any solid confirmation so a head cannon is the best we've got.)@@times2die

[@times2die]

@@Alfred_The_Late that would be a super unsatisfying conclusion for what was supposed to be the end of the series, though. plus scrap baby says "you're not who i expected to see" after she jumpscares you. she wouldn't just say that to a random dude. she also suspects michael is william still, which is why she was confused about it. it just doesn't seem like a big plot twist that scott would pull in the final game.

[@jacobcaito7145]

i think, jeremy was a security guard, and when he replaced william, the toys couldn't tell him and william apart and then bit him instead? i don't know if its a game theory or established lore, tho

[@GeoBlitzy]

Isnt he the guard you play as in fnaf 2?

[@i_like_chomp6382]

​@@GeoBlitzyCorrect, in night 6 Phone Guy told him he had to work a dayshift after William went on another killing spree

[@lola9148]

the thing is like did the animatronics not STINK for them to like, investigate. whyd it take blood leaking. it was a food place and no one wondered why it STANK.

[@lobst3r324]

i love how you just ignored fnaf 4 honestly you are so real for that

[@lilithmitchener]

Omg!! A more obscure deep lore dive might be d20's a crown of candy. Just a quick 10minuite video trying to describe the plot without mentioning the food part

[@haydenmecham8125]

“Allegedly Evan” sounds like a bad YA romcom

[@fleurrhine]

I keep forgetting what this video is called and keep wanting to find it because I find it calming to rewatch. I literally have been trying to find this again for months but every time I'd searched for it I'd typed "I present FNAF timeline as if I understand it" to try to find this and I kept finding like so many other FNAF theory type videos but not this one. I thought this got deleted bc I was struggling so hard to find it :O but yeah!! I saw your newest upload which helped me find this from your page! (I couldn't find your channel either, I was struggling!)

[@TheSadowdragonGroup]

I’m pretty sure she put Glitchtrap in Burntrap because that’s where William’s soul was. And his mind did not like being soulless. Like, the angry child was torturing his soul inside the suit, she didn’t pull him out.

[@TheSadowdragonGroup]

Also, no one knows what happened to Vanny. She just straight up doesn’t show up in the True Ending. In the Golden Ending, Vincent beats a bunch of arcade games which releases Vanessa’s conscience(? Soul?) from the digital prison Glitchtrap put her in and then she just decides not to murder children and also Gregory steals Glamrock Freddy’s head and they all get ice cream. That ending is non-canon but I choose to believe that destroying the arcade games and also Burntrap has the same effect and Vanessa meets Gregory and Freddy outside and they all go for ice cream.

[@SomeKiddo]

People call Mrs. Afton Clara bc that was the name of the wife of the vampire in a show that takes place after your shifts in sister location. The story mimics the relationship of the Afton family.

[@missimmi]

I use to know so much about the FNAF lore, then, like marvel movies, I missed 1 game, now I haven’t been able to catch up and just fell out of the fandom. Thank you for this video, hopefully now I can make some sense of everything

[@annabarnes5221]

William: All around me are familiar Aftons Worn out Aftons, Worn out Aftons Right infro- I'M BACK IN THE FUCKING RABBIT AGAIN! OH MY GOD I'M SO SICK!

[@Redimus]

Me: "Parasocial relationships are so fucking stupid." Haley: "I'm a kindergarten teacher with a beautiful personality and an obvious love for learning including learning about pop culture stuff!" Me: "....I love you."