Hall effect joysticks ROG ALLY, installed, tested, and explained.

[@okestgamer]

Links: OKestGamer discord: discord.gg/32S7kVF8qk HandheldDIY Hall effect link: www.handhelddiy.com/products/hall-joystick-for-rog-ally-1 Onexplayer Hall effect link: Select "HALL" onexplayerstore.com/collections/accessories/products/copy-of-charger-for-onexplayer-3?variant=45135824355622 Regular joysticks: www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005091086621.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.21.2c552d51M7BJg3&algo_pvid=2288ba4c-b847-4407-9ddc-3bd9d514de8b&algo_exp_id=2288ba4c-b847-4407-9ddc-3bd9d514de8b-10&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21CAD%218.94%215.82%21%21%21%21%21%40212248ba16875900992522252d0756%2112000031620509614%21sea%21CA%210&curPageLogUid=lcKFoFx1Xvzy

[@TheSignOfJonah]

May i ask what is the benefit of HHall effect joysticks versus the ones that came with the ALLY? does it have more resistance than the orignaly ALLY sticks?

[@okestgamer]

@@TheSignOfJonah so Hall effect sticks are not susceptible to the typical causes of joystick drift. Take joycons for an example. The sensors (potentiometer) get worn out or dirty (corroded sometimes), the Hall effect use magnets to detect input, so there isn’t a physical contact where a part wears down or gets dirty.

[@TheSignOfJonah]

@@okestgamer Thank you, Also i am wondering if the ones you installed (Hall effect) will have more resistance when moving them. Unfortunately i like more resistance on the sticks similar to that of the PS5. I play better FPS games with that type of resistance. The ALLY moves too easy and has low resistance. Does The Hall Effect stick you installed have more resistance than the original ALLy sticks? Also the best material for magnetic shielding is any ferromagnetic metal. This includes materials that contain iron, nickel, or cobalt. A magnetic field can be reduced by bringing another magnetic field that is stronger close to the original magnetic field which will cancel out the first field. This is often called magnetic shielding and it basically creates a second magnetic field in the same location that conducts a stronger fluctuation. Copper is one of the most effective materials used in RF shields. While copper can be relatively expensive, it provides highly effective conduction, absorption and attenuation of incoming RF signals. However i will give you a link that has a sheild that has a Chemical Composition of 80% Nickel, 5 % Molybdenum and 15% Ironlook. Look at this example: www.reddit.com/r/peakdesign/comments/ts51if/shielding_the_everyday_case_for_s22_ultra_to_use/ .. Another example kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYTalWOwmZmlgbM .. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIaUoGlsl9iSh8k .. After watching those videos you can see why in theory you can layer two or three sheets of this material over the magnet at U7102 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIaUoGlsl9iSh8k ,, then after that you can use this material to cover it very neatly www.amazon.com/MuMETAL-Magnetic-Shielding-Thick-Sheet/dp/B017ABFDP8/ref=sr_1_10?crid=16P5BJJOUGXPI&keywords=magnetic+shielding&qid=1687642876&refinements=p_72%3A1248921011&rnid=1248919011&s=industrial&sprefix=Magnetic+Shielding%2Cindustrial%2C77&sr=1-10#customerReviews .. Then after that you can use some extremely durable tape that will cure itself to the board with the additional heat from the device and is guranteed to hold in place the shield for the lifetime of the product. You're welcome friend :)

[@okestgamer]

@@TheSignOfJonah appreciate the links. I’ll check them out. I have something coming Monday and if it fails I now have some other options. Thank you

[@TheSignOfJonah]

@@okestgameryour welcome , I subscribed and hit the bell icon and I can’t wait to see your results.

[@lordzwiebel1]

I love how the manual starts right at the beginning, the little summary of steps and that nearly 100% of the video is relevant.

[@okestgamer]

Thanks for the feedback, I try to keep these types of videos moving quickly and having screens that can be paused on to get the info.

[@WheeledHamster]

Holy crap they didn't solder the damn joystick module to the board? This is a miracle.

[@okestgamer]

Yup, very easy replacements. I’ll likely convert the video into a joystick replacement video for regular joysticks as well. Make a few tweaks so it lines up with the standard sticks better.

[@nickjacobsss]

Crazy how easy this is already. Device has only been out 2 weeks!

[@okestgamer]

Little secret. I did this Day 1 😂

[@reaperreaper5098]

The joysticks are off the shelf components, IIRC someone tore this an a OneXPlayer apart and found they’re using essentially the same modules.

[@okestgamer]

@@reaperreaper5098 yeah that someone was me haha I posted it in a few places awhile back

[@gloryholdofficial]

Benefit of them using off the shelf bulk components

[@jabbajawz]

Maybe replace the left trigger with a non hall effect trigger and get the hall effect joystick working.

[@toadfrommario943]

Appreciate this video! My right joystick on my ally went out a couple months back and I haven’t been able to play it without a controller since then but I ordered the repair kit and followed the guide and now it’s back to normal! Earned a sub for sure

[@okestgamer]

Glad it was able to help you out man

[@doolittle_]

Seriously, your tutorials are awesome. Very detailed and specific. And the video for this was really slick. Your editing is improving by leaps and bounds.

[@okestgamer]

Appreciate that man! Trying to get better on each one

[@pohalsted8847]

Got to give some props to the easy assembly and disassembly of the ROG ALLY. I ordered one Hal joy for the right and I will keep the ALPS on the left. I will have a spare too. Perfect.

[@okestgamer]

Yeah that should work as well. I managed to fix the interference issue with a small magnet added. I’ll be doing a part 2 video this next week

[@pat.sambas]

@@okestgamer Brilliant! Looking forward to watching your magnet solution.

[@FaridRudiansyah]

​@@okestgamercan you test it using RF/EMI/EMF tape? It's cheap. I don't think magnet should be counter with magnet. Anyway looking forward for next update. Thanks.

[@stevenmonteiro3619]

@@okestgamer Are they uniform? as in I just order a unit from the link and they can go on any side?

[@NickFje]

Thank you for confirming these sticks are working. I have ordered 2 Hall effect assemblies trough your link. I feel much better about having hall effect because of their accuracy and they are so reliable. My 8bitdo ultimate with hall effect have 0.0% average error rate on both sticks while my other premium controllers that costs 3 times more are drifting and have terrible avg error rates. Just because of the unreliable potentiometers.

[@okestgamer]

No problem! Just make sure you watch the part that explains the interference. I will try to fix, but want to make sure people are aware

[@NickFje]

@@okestgamer I did see that, I still think it is worth a try anyway. Even if I need to increase the dead zone a little bit I don't need to worry about stick drift.

[@okestgamer]

@@NickFje ok perfect, just wanted to be sure you knew

[@poquepoque5851]

It's a rainy day today, but okest's video is like sunshine ❤

[@okestgamer]

Haha, appreciate it man

[@quattroconcept4]

I think Gulikit would release a good pair of shielded sticks in the future like they did for the Deck.

[@okestgamer]

Maybe they will, I guess we will have to see.

[@Gabilleta]

I know ASUS doesn't have the best reputation as of late but I feel like with the release of the Ally, they have been more forthcoming than with other product releases. Hopefully a workaround is found for those who wish to change their joysticks

[@okestgamer]

Check my community post on my channel page. I found a workaround.

[@swshredder1313]

I daily the Gulikit Zen pro wireless on my switch and PC, INSTANT purchase when I saw this for the Ally. Day and night difference with the sticks. Thank you for the guide!

[@okestgamer]

No problem, I haven’t tested to see how much of a difference they make, but more seeing if we could in fact pull it off.

[@Madblaster6]

I was just looking this video last night!

[@okestgamer]

I actually just posted it about 4 hours ago

[@SithHappens9567]

This video is just what I was looking for. You earned yourself a subscriber sir! My left analog stick went out for the second time within 5 months it only works up and down. The first time I sent it in to be replaced but ended up waiting a month to get it back. This time I thought I’d try to fix it myself that way I can order some back ups just in case. I feel pretty confident in it now after watching your video.

[@okestgamer]

Glad to hear it man! I strongly advise at this time ordering the non Hall effect sticks. Some ally devices seem to not work well with hall effect

[@SithHappens9567]

@@okestgamer I ordered a couple the other day I don’t think they were Hall effect so hopefully everything goes smoothly. I appreciate it.

[@okestgamer]

@@SithHappens9567 yeah if you got the AliExpress ones they are not hall effect

[@SithHappens9567]

@@okestgamer I got the 2Pcs RKJX21224001 Switch Elements Joystick for WIN3 Handheld Gama I read on Reddit that they work there just taking forever to be delivered.

[@SithHappens9567]

@@okestgamer I ordered the 2Pcs RKJX21224001 Switch Elements Joystick for WIN3 Handheld Gama I read on Reddit that they work they are just taking awhile to be delivered.

[@Dylan-et2yz]

You’re really good at giving instructions!

[@okestgamer]

Thank you! It makes me happy to hear that, I’ve been trying to get better at it

[@derekgoff4328]

This mod worked fine without tape for about 2 days, I’m noticing loss of range now since then and getting slightly worse. Almost couldn’t finish a test earlier today so I’ll be tearing it open again to add the conductive tape to help reduce the feedback. Honestly still worth the upgrade imo, the old sticks just like to drift all the time or get stuck. Mad annoying in windows mode

[@okestgamer]

Glad it worked out for the most part for you. Other have had mixed results

[@micholiotti8889]

I don't even have an Ally but I like these tech tips.

[@okestgamer]

Glad you’re enjoying them man!

[@fwtxnobody4355]

For the ppl who actually want to 100% fix it change the left stick with a regular joystick, it won’t make a difference since it’s not used for aiming, but changing that will give you full a rotation without changing the dead zone

[@okestgamer]

It actually seems to vary by each ally. My third one (warranty exchanges) doesn't seem to work no matter what I try

[@ahmedelboghdadi5328]

Awesome video as always! Definitely going into my arsenal of handheld consoles how to videos! Thx so much!

[@okestgamer]

Glad you enjoyed it 💪

[@infin1ty850]

My left joystick is messed up, due to "no fault of my own" 😂, so this really helps. Trying to deal with CS on this device has been an absolute nightmare.

[@okestgamer]

You could buy the cheaper one on AliExpress and it should fix it. Then you don’t have to deal with the interference

[@infin1ty850]

@@okestgamer my issue is actually that I believe something was bent. I go between a bunch of handheld devices and ended up finding this behind a couch cushion and ever since the left joystick forces the cursor to the left side of the screen. Vertical movement is fine, but horizontal is literally one-sided.

[@ezg8448]

Great Vid! Copper tape should also isolate the magnets if you have that handy.

[@okestgamer]

I have some coming on Monday. Let’s hope for the best

[@ezg8448]

@@okestgamer - Great! Can't wait for the follow up!

[@okestgamer]

@@ezg8448 yeah man, let’s hope it’s a positive follow up

[@krash3x]

I’m just worried that something that conducive may inadvertently fry something.

[@printsomething5093]

Yeah I believe a little bit of copper tape under the joystick would help interference and if you worried about it touching stuff, kapton tape on top of it

[@mepm]

I wondered if the hall effect joysticks would interfere with the already installed hall effect triggers, thanks for confirming

[@okestgamer]

No problem, now we try to fix it. We have 2/3 of the job done. Found the sticks, found out they work, now tweak to make it better.

[@prodigy455]

I just placed the order and I’m gonna work on isolating the issue. Along with me doing the 4tb install this will be my second mod and I’ll continue to mod as new parts or methods come about.

[@okestgamer]

That’s the nice part about having a community. You can brainstorm solutions

[@prodigy455]

@@okestgamer absolutely, I bought it to mess with and I’ve always been that way and while it might not be everybody’s cup of tea , it does benefit some when workarounds come about.

[@okestgamer]

Modding things is just a good time, so I totally understand

[@systom]

Ordered a pair with the hopes you guys find a fix, big thanks!

[@okestgamer]

Lettuce pray we find one

[@systom]

Even if not, the current workaround doesn't seem bad at all, which is ultimately why I pulled the trigger regardless. That, and, perhaps stock? Once more people see this.

[@okestgamer]

Yeah that’s fair. No idea what their stock situation looks like. I tried my best to find a few sources to sell the sticks, but no luck

[@derekgoff4328]

I thought about stock as well, atleast for the right stick only since that’s mostly aiming a gun & camera around in almost anything you play. We’ll see, I’m ordering conductive tape to finish this guys mod and see how it goes compared to nothing. HAS to be better than what I have now, wasn’t this had on initial install

[@cky90781]

Even if you just have the hall joystick on the right one only its still beneficial as FPS game player. That's whats making most of the fine movements anyway imo.

[@okestgamer]

Yeah that’s a good backup option. I’m stubborn though and want to have my cake and eat it too lol

[@davidcondit388]

What an amazing tutorial. I don't even have an Ally and I watched this lol.

[@okestgamer]

Thank you! I try to keep them concise and to the point. Don’t want to waste people’s time.

[@hitbm4755]

I wanted to try in replacing my right joystick head, but I do not feel comfortable on pulling on the battery cables and there is no easy way to remove that plug-head otherwise. In addition, the screws on the joystick module is really small and requires a special screwdriver to remove.

[@okestgamer]

Yes having good tools definitely is a must. I would suggest not diving into this one if not feeling too comfortable with it. I've found when I'm nervous about a mod I tend to make a mistake a little easier than when I'm comfortable

[@KEN.KANEKl]

Very useful tuto !

[@okestgamer]

Thank you! Glad it was helpful

[@adriannunoperera242]

What happen if i forget to disconnect the battery and change the sticks?

[@okestgamer]

Most likely there will be no issue, it's just safer to disconnect the battery when changing parts.

[@TheTyisawesome]

Exactly so when they said the triggers interfered with Hall effect sticks they were right. Hall effects triggers were the way to go! IMO Hall effect sticks are over rated because of the whole drift issue with the Switch. The joysticks are great stock and mine don't have any tracking issues. Testing using the same site

[@TheTyisawesome]

It's just not worth the interference and possible inaccuracies. Defeats the purpose of the reliability of the Hall sensor. I know it's early but I don't think the stock sticks are going to present any issues

[@okestgamer]

Hopefully not, that particular stick has a bad reputation on other handhelds which makes me worry

[@bluenote7856]

Thank you so much for the guide video and the website.

[@okestgamer]

Not a problem, I do caution that you will need to experiment. Not all ally devices seem to respond the same.

[@Dumpster-J-]

I didn't know it wouldn't boot with the screws in. I got it to boot after forcing it off and back on again without the screws. I'm fortunate my stock sticks don't have any drift. At least we know ASUS excuse was true about the interference. I really look forward to a solution as I miss the hall sticks on my ayaneo.

[@okestgamer]

I’m hoping I can fix it. We will see what happens soon.

[@ianozi24]

I wonder if wrapping the back casing of joystick with little aluminium foil would help with resistance

[@okestgamer]

There are a few other ways to add that type of resistance. You can add foam rings around the stick

[@Harusame94]

ROG Ally owner here, why is hall sticks needed? Either way, I loved the attention to detail in this video, so its a like and sub from me.

[@okestgamer]

Thanks for your support. So the hall effect sticks don’t drift over time like the normal ones do. Unfortunately the interference causes issues as well. I did a part 2 where I fixed that, but it does not seem to work on all ally devices. I would hold off for now

[@oyataceh]

easy to fix , seem good modular desain , thanks for desainer

[@okestgamer]

Yeah they seem like they made it easy to fix

[@mrrasron1]

Now you got me wanting to try this, damn.

[@okestgamer]

Do it! Do it now!

[@The_Shock_and_Awe]

Mine came in with a film I have to sandwich between the joysticks and the board maybe to prevent interference

[@okestgamer]

Yeah the ones from handheld diy come with it. It sometimes can help, but it’s hit or miss depending on the ally

[@giuseppealagna4294]

Perhaps using some magnetic shielding film applied on the bottom of the hall affect joystick

[@okestgamer]

That’s my first plan. Hoping it blocks enough to make the interference a non issue.

[@Steelninja77]

I will only do this IF i get stick drift down the line.But I am not that much of a hardcore gamer. I play games everyday but spread between my PC, my PCVR and my quest 3 headset standalone games and my ROG ally and my steam deck. So I don't think I will get stick drift but if I do I will do this mod. In fact i would probably replace it with the standard ones anyway if there is interference. Job done.

[@okestgamer]

That's fair, good news is this guide will work for regular swaps as well.

[@ThePsychoghost]

Same thing with the ayn odin if you put hall sticks.. It has hall triggers as well. Asus didn't put hall sticks probably for this reason. It's a great replacement though.... Wish there was a block between the magnetic fields so there wasn't interference

[@okestgamer]

The problem with the ally is that the sensor is directly behind the stick. It may not be an issue with the loki max

[@davidgallagher1674]

Talked me into it. I have ordered one for the right stick. I don't really care about the left

[@okestgamer]

I’ve reduced the interference by 65% so far for the left stick. Still working on it. Right stick is good to go so you should have a good experience

[@mattp5518]

How did you get the right stick good to go? Would love it to operate same as original but ill take it over stick drift any day​@@okestgamer

[@pandabearmadness6263]

When you can could please do a install video for the new heatsink on the ayaneo 2

[@okestgamer]

Definitely, I’m waiting for mine to come in. My luck isn’t great with Ayaneo parts arriving (just received my parts from December and they are the wrong colours lmao

[@gamers-generation]

Very OK guide, nice one!

[@okestgamer]

Thanks man! Hoping I can solve the issue for the interference.

[@Gideonrex1]

You’re a godsend. I’ve had the ally for 2 weeks and my left analogue x axis just died randomly when I turned it on. Didn’t want to take it back bc I spent a lot of time customizing it. Good to know the stick replacement is relatively easy. No idea what a Hall effect joycon is, but eh

[@okestgamer]

If you don’t know about the Hall effect ones I would suggest getting the ones in the AliExpress link instead. It will be the same as the ones your ally comes with

[@Gideonrex1]

@@okestgamer I don’t think those are the official ones. I think the stock ones are ALPS RKJX21224001. But thank you, and I’ll bless you with this knowledge. Bios = power + volume down. Boot menu = power + volume up. WinRe = power + plug keyboard in and press and hold 12 before power until the menu comes up…it’s been a rough day with this device😑 device was bricked for a while and was thinking about just wiping and installing Linux at one point

[@okestgamer]

Yeah it can be janky. The usual bios methods including the ones you listed didn’t seem to register on mine, weird part is they used to.

[@rodrigogomezolmos6345]

Hi, good evening. I joined the group because I saw a video on KZbin where I have the same problem. I'm going to tell you, I live in Argentina and I bought an ally, the problem is that the right stick doesn't work sideways and I can't ask for a guarantee. Is there a solution so I can solve the problem? Please help

[@Gideonrex1]

@@rodrigogomezolmos6345my replacement stick just came in today, I followed the steps in the video, and now it works 👍🏻

[@thertc204]

Really happy to see someone has tried this out! I was disappointed when I heard that person from Asus reveal that you'd get interference with HAL effect sticks.

[@mydingling]

Honestly just sounded like an excuse when I heard that. Real reason: save production costs

[@okestgamer]

Let’s see if we can solve it!

[@okestgamer]

This was my assumption. That or the potential failure rate of the sticks

[@thertc204]

@@mydingling well, of course. when creating something you can do anything, but you can't do everything. The R&D costs associated with developing and testing a solution that is not cost-prohibitive to mass manufacture were probably beyond what they felt would give them the profit margins they wanted on the price point they wanted to sell the device. That is, after all, how every product development on the planet goes.

[@thertc204]

@@okestgamer I've wondered if just putting some electrostatic tape on or around the joystick base would have any effect.

[@scarxerochannel]

Is the left stick the only one that has the interference after installation

[@okestgamer]

There have been some folks having issues with the right side as well. It seems to respond differently on some ally devices. I would suggest holding off unless you are wanting to experiment

[@sweetxstephanie]

My left analog register only go up and down with the old ones, I want to know if these hall effects joysticks will fix this?

[@okestgamer]

I would recommend getting the non Hall effect sticks linked in the description. The Hall effect seems to be hit or miss on working.

[@justboredlol]

would changing my left joystick fix the left and right stick not working?

[@okestgamer]

Are your joysticks having issues?

[@brandonsummers6360]

The haptics might be the next problem 🤔 i feel like those are magnetic actuators and youd prob want to isolate them as well!

[@okestgamer]

That’s a good idea, although I would imagine they would interfere with the trigger ones as they are

[@tommynguyen8430]

when I order hall effect they asked me "Please tell us your SN number to confirm your joystick version" which version is it to fit rog ally

[@okestgamer]

You can let them know you need the onexplayer 2 Indiegogo version with Hall effect.

[@dangerzone6481]

I'm only looking for the rubber pieces do you know where I can find some as replacements good video for when I do decide to upgrade the joysticks

[@okestgamer]

That I’m not sure, I think you would need to check with asus. They did have a site awhile back for spare parts, but cannot recall the link.

[@franzlaman]

As usual excellent video, I recently found my right joystick seems to float downward on its own, tried calibration but still occurs, do you think it’s a joystick problem or software

[@okestgamer]

This is probably the interference happening. I’ve been finding from some others that it tends to be random how it responds to the Hall effect. Random between devices I mean

[@LayerZeroDesign]

Maybe some kind of aluminized tape behind the trigger sensor? Idk maybe there is some kind of way to isolate them from each other.

[@okestgamer]

Check my community update on my KZbin page. I managed to address the joystick interference. I’ll be doing a second video next week.

[@LayerZeroDesign]

@@okestgamer yeah I saw you mention it in another comment right after I posted. I just ordered the hall sticks last night. Interested to see what your solution is. I'm trying to solve an issue I have. During gaming, my right trigger activates randomly even with my hand completely away from it. I thought maybe it was just sensitive and adjusted the trigger in armory crate but it was still happening. I haven't been able to nail down the cause 100% because it's sporadic but the most often way I was able to replicate the issue was when using both left and right joysticks and rolling them inwards towards each other (both pressed towards the screen). It's annoying but I already put my 2TB drive in it and changed out the thermal paste and got it all set up and tons of games downloaded and I don't feel like going through it all again so I'm trying to not have to return it for a replacement.

[@okestgamer]

Yeah that issue is pretty weird. If you adjust the beginning of the trigger higher and it’s still doing it, I’m not sure what’s up. Maybe the stick isn’t going all the way back up. They are Hall effect so it should only activate when the magnet gets closer

[@pandabearmadness6263]

I'm pretty disappointed in aokzoe i ordered 64 gig variant and it's delayed a month. Oddly enough I'm really loving my rog i was on the fence buying with the possibility of returning it but I'm definitely keeping it I like how user-friendly it is, i just hate the battery but I'm usually plugged in playing on the couch😅

[@okestgamer]

Yeah the battery life is a little lacking. If you play plugged in and turbo, I might recommend setting a custom fan curve. It gets very warm with how relaxed they have the fan set at default.

[@mynameishall8736]

Cancel it. This message has been approved by a random youtube stranger.

[@TB-nf6bs]

Thank you for shareing jumped on that purchase. And will be awhile before I get them. Hopefully a way to mitigate the interference will be discovered before I get mine. Otherwise it will be another fun mod to mess with. One of the first things I did with the steamdeck was take the metal contacts that are in a xbox one dpad membrane and bend them to fit the posts under the dpad and the face buttons on the steamdeck. Its night and day. The button presses are extremmly solid and tactile now no mush. Will have to remove the mainboard on the ally to do the same thing although its alot more work steamdeck was easy to reach them.

[@okestgamer]

Modding is always a good time..until it’s not when it gets botched lol. I’m hoping this mod works out and we have no interference.

[@TB-nf6bs]

​@okestgamer Do you have any comments or concerns about the wifi chip and also the SD card slot being right underneath the heatpipes? I'm going to work on isolating a small area of those heat pipes where they are above those problem areas but I will not be able to do much if it's on the fin stack.

[@okestgamer]

Honestly, I just adjusted the fan curve and it changed thing’s dramatically for the SD card slot at least. Now it feels perfectly normal and not close to burning.

[@davidfaustino4476]

Yeah these need a little sheilding tape under each joystick to stop interference through the PCB underneath.

[@okestgamer]

Yeah it seems to dampen the effect, but has not always shielded fully.

[@DARK_BASS_LORD]

Whats the part number for the hall effect joysticks for those who want to buy elsewhere?

[@okestgamer]

All we know is it’s made by k-silver. If you can find an elsewhere please share, I’ve been trying for a couple of months

[@lamboricer3743]

Hmm, you cant really block magnetic field but if you can find a way to redirect by a little this would work great.

[@okestgamer]

I’m going to see if it helps out at all. Honestly at this point I’m just having fun experimenting

[@lamboricer3743]

@@okestgamer yeah, I just placed an order. I'm really glad you tested this out. I kinda want try out to see if I can place mini mouse track pad on this next.

[@okestgamer]

That’s an interesting idea. I’m curious how that would work

[@RedEyedJedi]

I'm surprised that Asus doesn't make and sell these upgrades themselves as they have obviously gone to such lengths to make the rog ally easily upgraded.

[@okestgamer]

Unfortunately a lot of ally devices have a lot of interference with the triggers

[@crackpotscott]

So my question is if like me you're having issues with the left anolog left axis can i instead switch out the left anologe stick with an offical asus rox ally stick rather than the sticks you have used in order to help fix my issue. I'd rather not have the interface from the left trigger

[@okestgamer]

Yes you can use alps sticks instead of hakk effect. The video can double as a joystick replacement guide

[@MrAmazinj]

My problem is when we ultimately get Linux support ala Chimeraos or Halo Os Then we will have this Hall effect issue to deal with, not sure if we will have native dead zone calibration in Linux.

[@okestgamer]

Yeah that part I would not know much about. When I see Linux folks talking about fixes in discord servers, it just looks like they are solving all the world’s problems and I am just there nodding my head pretending to know what’s up lol.

[@Canarious]

Would a polyimide faraday tape sandwich work? putting it in between the joystick and trigger?

[@okestgamer]

I tried a number of things. The best solution is a small magnet I used to counter the other magnet. Worked out pretty well.

[@DylanTayag]

I’m doing this immediately! How does the tension/resistance feel compared to the OEM modules??

[@okestgamer]

Feels the same as the stock ones

[@dave3269]

@@okestgamer So unplayable :/

[@rodrigogomezolmos6345]

Hi, good evening. I joined the group because I saw a video on KZbin where I have the same problem. I'm going to tell you, I live in Argentina and I bought an ally, the problem is that the right stick doesn't work sideways and I can't ask for a guarantee. Is there a solution so I can solve the problem? Please help

[@Shmack_]

Isn’t there a reason they said they didn’t add these? Causes interference with trigger hall sensors or something??

[@okestgamer]

Yes, that’s what I was testing. Found sticks that work and found a way to make it work with some calibration. Next step will be to see if I can mitigate the interference

[@rashaadadam3359]

I bought two of these and installed. The right stick works fine and there is no interference with the Hall effect trigger. Like the video the stick doesn’t quite reach the ends of the right circle but fixed this with the calibration tool in ASUS Armoury Crate. The left stick is a total no go for me. No matter what calibration setting I choose in Armoury Crate the trigger still interferes with the joystick . Also as an aside onexplayer for some unknown reason decided to declare my 30usd order for 109usd and I got charged handsomely by customs … a very expensive exercise and hope onexplayer can resolve this

[@okestgamer]

Yeah that’s pretty odd, there is no reason for that high of a declaration. I would email them to ask what happened

[@colororb4105]

Asus said they could only use Hall sensors for the sticks OR the triggers. I wish they had picked the sticks instead of the triggers because those sticks' internals look very similar to Switch joysticks

[@okestgamer]

Yeah that would have been the better option tbh

[@mannuperez3926]

My right stick is failing the circularity test it has trouble reaching the edge pushed to 3 o'clock

[@okestgamer]

I’ve seen some others having this issue. It seems like each ally device is slightly different. Some have some issue we are guessing from the vibration motor

[@mannuperez3926]

@@okestgamer update i replaced it with the secondary stick since I was only replacing one due to severe drift. And it works now I think I set the outer dead zone to 80 im guessing either the sticks go in a specific slot of mine was slightly defective

[@N54htmare]

Does it interfere with the triggers? I heard reason why they didn’t put hall effect joysticks is because it interferes with the Hall effect triggers

[@okestgamer]

I didn’t really notice anything. Even if there was, you could just calibrate them a small amount. If the fix works for the interference, it will help both ways of interference.

[@matrick94]

How do they feel?.. to me the stock joysticks are just way too light…

[@okestgamer]

They are the exact same feel

[@yesacam]

Hey OKestGamer, great tutorial dude!!! you know, I ordered the 2 hall effects from the onexplayer site you attached to the description, but it been more than 4 days and they still haven't ship to the US, my order is confirmed but it been some days and nothing. Do you know if this is normal on that webpage? how was your experience ordering those hall effect joysticks?? thankss

[@okestgamer]

We checked with the rep from onexplayer and it seems like they are processing them. I guess they got flooded with orders after the video

[@TangerineAltoid]

I have stick drift on the right stick. Would this also fix that?

[@okestgamer]

It might, sometimes it’s not the stick itself. I would suggest take the right and the left stick and swap them. If the issue then shows up on the left side, you’ll know it’s the stick.

[@TheRosanchez85]

Thank you for this

[@okestgamer]

No problem, glad you enjoyed!

[@ControllerSupported]

Hey OKestGamer, so I just got the Gulikit King Kong 2 Pro.. which has both hall effect triggers and joysticks. On the left joystick (right if you are looking at the back of the board) there is a metal shield on the back of the board where the joystick is... I wonder if you do the same thing if it would take away the issues you're experiencing.. Anyway, look into it if you haven't already!

[@okestgamer]

Thanks, I’ll take a look to see what it’s about.

[@InterGaming]

Do you know if the cap colors can be replaced if I just bought some different colored ones for Xbox one controller?

[@okestgamer]

I tested a few caps and none had fit. I tested: -ps4 -Xbox one -Ayaneo 2

[@gijsveldman7458]

My joysticks for the ally make a really loud clicking noise, will it help if i were to replace the stick modules?

[@okestgamer]

Most likely would. You can get the cheaper ones on AliExpress if you want to test it

[@CaveWaverider]

ASUS should have swapped the D-Pad and left joystick position, that way they could have used Hall effect joysticks from the get go.

[@okestgamer]

Yeah that would likely have solved it

[@johndale9578]

I just got mine, but the right bumper does not work. Do you know of any ideas that could be wrong?

[@okestgamer]

Sounds like an issue with the tactile switch. Do you feel it clicking?

[@johndale9578]

@@okestgamer it feels the same as LB

[@okestgamer]

Sorry just saw your reply now. I’m guessing the tactile switch might be having an issue.

[@stoopydh4878]

Maybe a bit of copper tape under the joystick will isolate it?

[@okestgamer]

Similar solution I’m going to test this week

[@jumbomrmeaner3016]

Do these thumb sticks feel like the have more resistance? I’m not good with terminology but the stock ones feel loose unlike Xbox controller.

[@okestgamer]

They feel the exact same

[@jumbomrmeaner3016]

@@okestgamer thank you for responding. Yeesh. That’s the only struggle I really have with mine. I’ve had mine for four days and that’s pretty much all I dislike about it.

[@jumbomrmeaner3016]

@@okestgamer do you feel that there is hope for better quality sticks to come?

[@okestgamer]

@@jumbomrmeaner3016 working with another guy on a possible solution.

[@oligi2002]

Magnetic shielding will do the trick, I think

[@okestgamer]

That’s going to be my first attempt this Monday when the item arrives.

[@pandabearmadness6263]

I'm still on the fence on buying a protection plan for the rog . Best buy gives you 30 days after purchase to buy a plan. I feel with how early repairable the rog is that i mite not get it. I feel like i rarely ever have to use the protection plan but with rog not having standard joysticks that worries me. I'm just curious did you buy a protection plan for your rog

[@okestgamer]

No, I rarely buy warranty. If your sticks break and you don’t want Hall effect, you can buy the same stick as the ally for like $6 on alliexpress. Install is the same as this video

[@justinliechty7745]

I got the warranty, reason being no good cases out right now. I know my luck.

[@okestgamer]

@@justinliechty7745 can’t hurt if you would use it. I tend to try fix my stuff because I’m stubborn

[@aleksandrnesterenko]

Is it possible to use bigger joystick cap? For example from Xbox controller? For me it looks too small... If yes, which one?

[@okestgamer]

Just tested this today and no it will not fit. Too large

[@zackw7587]

Does this solve any of the cap wobble issues people are having? Or is it still a cap molding issue, regardless of actual stick.

[@okestgamer]

I actually haven’t experienced that. The sticks stems are identical, so if I had to guess, people’s sticks weren’t full pressed down in the stems

[@elmerhouston5915]

Does this fix the looseness of the sticks?

[@okestgamer]

If you get the tighter modules. Main issue is the interference seems to be unpredictable on the ally with the Hall effect. Some devices work well with it, others not

[@mark-zd9tk]

What about the input lag of the joystick, is that fixed? Beacuse in ghost wire Tokyo, the input lag is crazy as for other games. I did try fix the dead zone to zero in game settings, but no luck.

[@okestgamer]

Haven’t experienced any input lag myself. I’ll watch out for it.

[@TheTyisawesome]

It's just not worth the interference and possible inaccuracies. Defeats the purpose of the reliability of the Hall sensor. I know it's early but I don't think the stock sticks are going to present any issues over the years

[@okestgamer]

Unfortunately these sticks have a bad history on other devices. If we can’t solve the interference, I definitely agree its best to stick with the stock ones.

[@audaceus]

Mr. Okest any chance you're going to do this mod with the win 4/win 4 pro? I've heard talk in reddit that these hall sticks are compatible with the win 4. Also come october, gdp is going to release their deadzone software. I'm probably gonna get the win 4 pro come Christmas sales and after review are out.

[@okestgamer]

I am planning to, I’ve been a little behind on planned videos unfortunately, but I do know that they work. I would be curious how they work after the deadzone fix

[@yummiermussel5331]

Man my left stick is getting scratched and indented from the light ring and i dont wanna return because ive put alot of time into it already. Any suggestions?

[@okestgamer]

Some people have bought little ‘bands’ that go around the stick to prevent the rubbing. They were buying the steam deck version for it.

[@yummiermussel5331]

@@okestgamer I thought about it but they reduce range of motion and I really don't want that. I hope they just release some metal joysticks like on the Xbox elite controllers. Or just a better replacement from the factory as they are easy to replace.

[@okestgamer]

Yeah they are probably easier to return if you’re in your window right now. Sorry for the late reply, I hadn’t seen the message

[@recklesshoongarage566]

@@yummiermussel5331just upgrade them don’t return the device because chances it will be the same

[@soulsearch7383]

Thanks for putting the part links. Have you found out what time of cap the joysticks use. Mine actually is starting to eat away the plastic were the joist I’m hits the LED wall. It’s like sandpaper eating away the joystick. I probably press to hard. Anyways. If you can find compatible caps that would be awesome.

[@okestgamer]

I have not found one identical to it. You could use the caps that come with the Hall effect order, but they are smaller

[@rxuleau1175]

i just got some on amazon, any way to see if it will or wont work on the ally

[@okestgamer]

Best of luck man, let's hope it works out

[@alexhernan87ify]

So the hall sticks help with no stick drift?

[@okestgamer]

It's supposed to help when the sticks get dirt or wear down the sensor. Specifically for the ROG Ally, I would maybe stick with alps. The interference is very random, some devices are really bad, and others work fine.

[@bahamut3441]

What does hall effect mean?

[@okestgamer]

It's a magnetic sensor input rather than potentiometer (physical sensor that detects a metal arm that moves against the sensor) Hall effect has less chance to drift due to less physical wear and tear at least on the sensor

[@OneLastScholar]

Hall effect cannot drift, at all. Any drift is due to software/firmware, there is zero hardware corrosion.

[@modnarm9341]

Can you add a padding on the censor like a thick tape or termal pads For the interference?

[@okestgamer]

I’ve tried blocking at all angles, it can reduce, but does not eliminate. Part 2 I was able to use a magnet to counter the magnetic force and stop most interference. After I have learned that each ally seems to be slightly different, so some have had issues on the right stick as well.

[@TechPanduh]

Nice tutorial 👍

[@okestgamer]

Thanks so much!

[@hpfuhl]

My only issue I found is neither joystick will go fully on an angle to upper right. The system shows the joystick stopping halfway and not reaching the edge. Dead zone adjustments don't correct it and I'm not detecting any interference. I have a spare set of hall effect so I am going to try swapping them in, but this issue doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Anybody else seeing that issue.

[@hpfuhl]

As an update I got it pretty much worked put I had to adjust both the deadzone and outer threshold almost in sync. Once I did the circularity came down on both to 5.5-6% which was fairly good. I haven't noticed any issues in any games...Lies of P etc. But I don't really plan to play any shooters on this just JRPG, ARPG, and Soulsborne games.

[@okestgamer]

I had this issue on my most recent ally device. It seems like each device is slightly different

[@hpfuhl]

@okestgamer it's weird I was barely getting interference from the trigger button magnets, but it still required some fine adjustment. If ally didn't work in multiples of 5 for adjusting and used single digit adjustment I think it could be really tuned.

[@hpfuhl]

@okestgamer also any third party tool like handheld companion or ghelper that manages the controller can cause issues with the adjusting. I found after removing it completely I was able to the sticks to work better.

[@okestgamer]

That's good to know, thanks for sharing with everyone

[@Nico617TBS]

Does the hall sticks have more resistance? I find the stock ones to be to soft

[@okestgamer]

No they have the same resistance

[@TheMikkelet]

Gamepad-Tester does not detect my Ally's gameped... should I be worried?

[@okestgamer]

Enable gamepad mode from the left armoury crate pull out window (it’s probably on auto)

[@TheMikkelet]

@@okestgamer ohh thank you!

[@okestgamer]

No problem

[@gloryholdofficial]

I love you I have been looking everywhere for sticks my right one is super loose and pops when moving direct left to direct right and I would prefer to swap than get a whole new unit and risk another issue popping up since this is currently my only issue and I am very comfortable doing my own repairs I have done a full shell swap on my steam deck and this is child’s play in comparison

[@okestgamer]

Yeah this is a very easy repair. You can grab 3 or 4 (a couple spares) and then change either only the right one, or jump right in like I did and adjust the deadzone until we find a solution.

[@MadaoAU]

This is great, do they feel bit tighter to Hadley ?

[@okestgamer]

They feel exactly the same