Hallertau Review - One Year Later

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[@NoPunIncluded]

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[@DerArtikus]

UwU Rosenberg is now officialy my favorite boardgame-author-play-on-words, just before Nicht-so-tief-Reiner Knizia (works better in german)

[@IslanKleinknecht]

Right up there with Roland Wright.

[@mrchom]

Appropriate action was taken on the Graham situation. Hopefully he landed under a cupboard where he can never bother anyone again except the spiders....they're not big on NFTs, or crypto....they're much more into web design.

[@jacobthomas6876]

This video was great and really funny! (The NFT bit was great) I also agree with your conclusions about this being a great solo game - I’ve really enjoyed playing this solo!

[@DeyaViews]

0:49 No fans of Caverna here, eh? :P

[@stefanopaolini1345]

Hilarious review! Great job! Your face when saying "...then the game was mean to me" made me laugh loudly xD

[@dustinnygard3076]

Thanks for another great review!

[@SmokingCardboard]

Oh my word, this was fantastic watch. Great job!

[@SideGameLLC]

This is my favorite solo Euro game. Very fair review.

[@gamefreakgeek]

Such a great video. Can't wait for the stream! 🖤

[@gamefreakgeek]

Also just realized how far behind I am on this video. Hope the stream was great!

[@HelloFutureMe]

the humour in the opening was so damn on point

[@vortex_user2504]

didn't expect to see you here

[@samuelking6416]

Recently ordered AFFO based on your review. Having watched this review I'm probably leaning more towards Nusfjord as a mainly solo experience.

[@z-beeblebrox]

9:00 you've definitely had to sit through a friend gushing about NFTs haven't you XD

[@mrbastos]

The NFT bit got me lol I was listening while working, and then Graham's rant stopped me in my tracks haha anyway, Hallertau is one I've been very curious about. Definitely one I think I'd need a few plays before I would buy it though.

[@TheSludgeMan]

When Efka was going through all the different types of grain and explaining the crop rotation mechanic I laughed out loud. I am so off the deep end with this hobby that German subsistence farming sounds exciting somehow

[@Wallach_a]

The cc thinks you’re saying “harlot town” someone should make that game. 💁🏻

[@blazepond5518]

always a pleasure to hear you talking bolics

[@unraveledgamethoughts3841]

I've been debating this game. I keep going back and forth of where to place it (or just take it off) my wish list. Ugh! Never played A Feast for Odin either...but they seem VERY different. Good review and helpful for ongoing consideration.

[@TheMartinChronicles]

I'll likely never play this game but man, this was a great video. Kudos NPI for making me laugh after a hard day's work!😁

[@johnathanrhoades7751]

I have very much enjoyed the two Uwe games I have played (Agricola and Patchwork). Agricola is oneof my favorite worker placement games at this point. Definitely need to try more of his games 😀

[@StuartHetzler]

a feast for odin is also fantastic solo

[@sebastianruizromo637]

100K! Go go go!

[@VirGnar]

Loved the nod to Tom from SUSD

[@dansmith9859]

Me who's never seen a single ounce of fun in any euro game, still watching the review because I adore No Pun.

[@NoPunIncluded]

That's what I call dedication! Appreciated.

[@donnieinman8049]

I tend to play most Uwe games solo. My favorite is probably Fields of Arle, but I play Nusfjord more because it's easier to get to the table. I enjoy his games, but some of them have fairly significant setups which does deter me from getting them out more often.

[@julianbailey2749]

This is me as well. Fields of Arle is the one that I want to play, Nusford is the one that hits the table.

[@patrickp2429]

Few things in board game videos have been as satisfying as you flicking off "Graham".

[@Tanks.With.Teeth.Malloy]

The Gharam cube bit got me. I was rolling lolol...lololol...I hate NFT's.

[@Crabdust1]

Hallertau: Fahm Hahd - Love the review :)

[@sunlioness1]

I am a huge fan of Uwe's big box games. The only game of his that I didn't like was Feast for Odin. I played it again and again masochisticly hoping to discover whatever it was other people saw in it. I discussed it with mates and strangers alike, live, on Reddit, BGG and Facebook to try and rub myself against their excitement. I still think the cards there, although preposterously numerous, are bland and unexciting and that polyominos should be banned from heavy games ✌ Your review of Hallertau makes me wanna play it, and if the solo is a good s you describe, provably own it as well.

[@jmbootz]

Hallertau is the one Rosenberg game that I actually enjoy. It gets too mathy, but I feel that any concerns with card randomness could be reduced by "draw 2, keep 1."

[@paulszki]

I feel like that fix applies for any worker placement game from Uwe Rosenberg that uses cards.

[@Skycroft1000]

Hallertau is the game I play when I want to play an Uwe Rosenburg game, but me and my sister have played A Feast for Odin a little too much lately. The latter game is absolutely better, but we play it a _lot_ so it can get old. Also, it's Norwegians that makes Feast for Odin really shine - it might well be an expansion could do the same for Hallertau in the future.

[@bigsarge2085]

Flax Facts!

[@styfen]

I'm just going to comment on that sweet fauxhawk for the purposes of engagement and helping the video. It's S W E E T.

[@user-rz2gr4er9c]

I had my doubts but I think you just saved me from acquiring this one. Enough with the mathematics. :)

[@bsademax5135]

I think your conclusion pretty accurately reflects my own opinion of the game. The cards are definitely too swingy to make a multiplayer game feel competitive, but it's a crunch and enjoyable solo, even though it absolutely is overshadowed by AFFO in that regard, as well.

[@zenosAnalytic]

Hmm. Seems like the card mech would have been better as a deck-building minigame from what you're saying.

[@zachgaskins3731]

Wait, which one's the bad one? Caverna?

[@AdamNielson]

LOL That’s what I was wondering

[@ChrisCypher]

It better be Caverna and not Fields of Arle. I love FoA.

[@justinkitton5492]

I hope he doesn't mean Loyang, that game is perfect

[@DockZock]

The bad big box one is Merkator. The mediocre one is Reykholt. The good ones are Glass Road and Agricola. The great ones are Loyang, Nusfjord, Ora et Labora. The fantastic ones are Caverna, Fields of Arle and Hallertau. The masterpiece is A feast for Odin. Now don't get me started on how good the expansions are not made by ya Boi Uwe :)

[@DockZock]

Jesus I forgot Le Havre in fantastic

[@ThymeKeeper]

Man, I wish I could have flicked that NFT cube :)

[@popgas3821]

7:07 ngl, I actually guffawed. Nice one 😂.

[@markcardenas8843]

Huh, whatever has agricola done wrong to you???

[@ezradenney8148]

I really enjoy Hallertau, but have only played solo. In fact, it is the only game I have played solo more than once.

[@travisalbert276]

The cards were fun, but it lacks the panic inducing sense of urgency that I love about agricola or a feast for odin. I also thought it was gorgeous but too abstract.

[@zawadi9949]

Sweet mohawk!

[@BozarthPrime]

Okay, but which one do you consider the bad one? Was it Agricola? At the gates of Loyang?

[@JRAllen-bk5qb]

This! I need to know!

[@doggyaugie]

me too! I'm guessing Fields of Arle (even though I love it)

[@TorIverWilhelmsen]

"They tend to grow on me" - if this was any other channel than NPI, I would have counted that as an included pun in a video about a farming game.

[@NoPunIncluded]

Yeah, not proud of it, but im still laughing at that one myself... 😭

[@andrethannhauser6302]

the game just needs an expansion that firstly just dives deeper into the beer theme which the Hallertau region is famous for and secondly it needs to find a solution to reduce the luck of card draws (e.g. just make it draw 2 keep 1 or just show the top cards of the decks so you see exactly what you could get. AND it needs a minor balancing tweek because when you go victory points card heavy you will hardly win against a player who goes the way of pushing the house to the max. other than that, I enjoyed my yestersay' 3p-game and I really enjoy the solo mode. concerning the solo mode: you should play that you never use the card on the first turn which removes the workers from quadrant 1....it's 100% worse to start that way.

[@yrrep27]

>Me, who has mainly played the game solo: Really disagreeing with NPI on this one. >Gets to the Turn Around-Turn Around >Deep, slow nod Also, "shep" got a real chuckle out of me.

[@derekrucker377]

I come to NPI for all my Flax Facts

[@psicomush]

Graham will for sure be a NFT now!! oh the irony..

[@nchlsrdmr]

I can't disagree more, to be honest. Hallertau certainly IS one of Uwe's best! Along with Caverna, Agricola & Nusfjord. I'm not sure what the fascination is with Ffo, which I like, a lot...but I don't LOVE it like the aforementioned ones. Hallertau is so much fun because the cards/decks make each game so different. 33 plays and not stopping...

[@jonnyw2887]

Plus you need to invest in getting cards ahead of time then adapting them into your strategy - rather than hoping what you draw fits with what you want to do.

[@NoPunIncluded]

Normally I don't wade into "experienced strategy" discourse, but I played this game A LOT, and have managed to get a score as high as 139 and feel confident in saying that no matter what your plans are, you absolutely can still get wild random draws that push your score into the stratosphere.

[@nchlsrdmr]

Yes exactly. I don't feel like you get lucky or unlucky unless it's really a last resort and you go for another points card.

[@nchlsrdmr]

Haha well thanks for replying. Yes I suppose you can get something that does help occasionally but I don't find it swingy really. But I'm happy to admit I'm biased and have an unnatural love for all things Uwe :) Great score btw!

[@NoPunIncluded]

Thanks! I agree, the score isn't shabby, but I will also fess up that when I got that score I didn't feel like I earned it - more like I chanced into it. So you can see where the critique is coming from.

[@lostmarble540]

just a sec, gotta google something okay, that nft joke was funny, especially coming from a literal block

[@jackdempsy7104]

I’m only here for the Flax Facts.

[@cachotognax3600]

along the first part of the video I was thinking "uh this would be a cool videogame" spoilers And at the turnaround I see myself confirmed in how this works well as a score attack "roguelike"

[@cachotognax3600]

@@revimfadli4666 always the same start, random facotrs influencing your decisions, I guess some would call it differently but that's all it needs for me.

[@cachotognax3600]

@@revimfadli4666 As long as they have a solo mode yeah.

[@voxxonline]

You made me officially 60 quid poorer :D

[@nerdfatha]

Sheep Tears in the Rain

[@mahna_mahna]

Hoo boy, we really came out of this with different perspectives. I really bounced of Feast for Odin (even with the expansion) and most other big Uwe games. Caverna was good, but a pain with other players. But with Hallertau, I actually enjoyed one of his big games for the first time. And we played with three, all of which really liked the game and wanted to play it again. And I say that even having gotten stomped by the leader! Also, I have to say lines like "A Feast for Odin is still undeniably a better game" sound a little like "my opinion is the objective truth." I know you'll be saying "no, I didn't mean that." Well, maybe you will. I've watched the channel long enough to know you realize that enjoyment of games can be pretty subjective. But those lines don't come across that way. Appreciate the video, though!

[@dramajoe]

Uwe fans! Take this review with a massive grain of salt. Efka states multiple times in it that Odin is an objectively better game and that opinion is objectively false. Hallertau is excellent even and especially beyond its solo mode, easily one of if not Uwe’s actual best. The cards aren’t as random as is implied here and elsewhere, they mostly reward diversification and punish specialization. This game is a must have for any Uwe fan and probably for many who aren’t as well.

[@luiscarlosqg]

Thank you for the useful comment.

[@jakobsievers]

Could you do a dedicated video with Graham? I'd like to hear what he has to say😉

[@NoPunIncluded]

I think we've heard enough from Graham.

[@glaming93]

Always happy to collaborate…

[@JonTripp115]

Graham is the worst cube.

[@CrossfitBrent]

Big Uwe fan here and love FFO. Randomness of the draw is my biggest criticism as well for this one . Giving up a worker or two in hopes you get a victory point card you can fulfill has cost me across many games. That could be the difference in you not getting the resources to move your house out far enough to even getting the base set of rewards in that board. Someone mentioned draw 2 and keep one which sounds like a viable solution.

[@zenosAnalytic]

XD Bok Choi is MUCH better when you cook it :p :p

[@malcolmmacdonald9238]

The jokes is.... I'm just being a regular bollock.

[@bbdeffect]

Farm hard or go home.

[@Blairington]

Jamestown...?

[@yaboibanana33]

Rye

[@yugihoo]

Caverns is loads better then Agricola

[@scottarmstrong8178]

Man, I would never play this game and would never miss NPI talking about it.

[@flatcapgamesnz4301]

I find I disagree with your main criticisms of the game with the cards. They are managed into 4 different functional decks so you have some control over what you are choosing to draw. there are also several replacement decks for two of these functional decks to change the game experience. The volume of cards, therefore, is much more controlled and arranged functionally and not just a big random mess. I love the crop rotation system though there is definitely awkwardness in the first few plays with the resource storage. The fact that solo is the same rules is awesome so I agree with you on that! The movement of the board pieces is good but Im not sure about it being the best method to represent progress for the community. Not sure how I'd replace it though!

[@indigo988]

Argh, Graham is the worst...

[@ryanodoherty4090]

Hey guys love your content. I just tried to tweet you and saw that you've blocked me... I guess I should unsub???

[@cameronross8812]

I almost feel called out directly, but I'm sure you got a lot of Proof of Stake messages and response, but I'm honestly more upset that the discussions around NFTs provides a lot of opportunities for nuanced talks into the multitude of ways that our financial systems and mindsets fail us. Instead discussion around NFTs typically default to simplistic editorialized reductions that don't really inform anyone of anything factual, it's just "to the moon", or "NFTs are evil and dumb because" without nearly enough attempts to communicate any depths to those thoughts.

[@NoPunIncluded]

Hi, I have no idea why you think this is targeted at you, but I suspect its because you commented something like this before? Rest assured, you are but one of the many people who say this exact thing, almost verbatim. The number of times I have heard “proof of stake” far exceeds singling out one individual on the internet.

[@cameronross8812]

you spend a lot of words rehashing the first thing I said in my comment... and absolutely nothing regarding the point that took up the bulk of my message. I think this absolutely "NFTs are evil, full stop" is not giving the topic the depth of discussion that it legitamately deserves. Killing NFT's doesn't kill defi crypto, it just cuts out an avenue that creatives were using to get paid through it. NFTs are a symptom of much much wider socio-economic issues. You and many people are reducing this into something where the people who need to be reached the most, will just tilt there head, say "proof of stake", and ignore your opinions on the matter. We need the dissenting to listen to outside voices otherwise we're all doomed. The tone of the discourse is worth more than throw-off jokes, and knee-jerk demonizing simplifications.

[@untilmay9323]

@@cameronross8812 He made a joke about NFT's, this is a board game review. Not an opportunity to have massive discourse about the quality of NFT's. chill NFT's are a joke btw

[@cameronross8812]

not many jokes get to be as destructive and predatory as NFTs are though.

[@samuelking6416]

Recently ordered AFFO based on your review. Having watched this review I'm probably leaning more towards Nusfjord as a mainly solo experience.