HALLOWEEN KILLS Ending Explained

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

FULL Halloween Kills spoiler review livestream Monday night live!

[@shoot4theface420]

You guys said tonight I feel robbed. 😭 just kidding fucknuts! See y’all mondee 😘

[@bobbycharleston]

At least wait for Nitro to end before you go live, gotta see Juvi #thejuice

[@robbiekoziol3144]

guys just admit that the guys at the myers house are based on you and j he he

[@xsrcodgamerx3229]

can’t wait!!

[@masonsousa5241]

I loved the movie

[@markmac2206]

still cant believe they used "stabbed her tits" in the movie. you really should get royalties for that.

[@jessicawood2972]

I thought if Mike and Jay when they said that 🤣

[@LA_HA]

@@jessicawood2972 Did they come up with that? Because I've heard a couple other channels say it, so I thought it was something a few fans say

[@corym.m.3084]

Why, they weren’t the first people to say it

[@DudeMcGuybro]

@@corym.m.3084 holy fuck it's a joke.

[@somegeekguy]

@@DudeMcGuybro what is a joke? And what does it have to do with the fact that they never said stabbed in the tits first?

[@Iruleyoufail]

I didn't mind Karen's character in 2018 but damn she shined in this movie especially when she was helping that mental patient. I was sad to see her go.

[@n1kkmoviezz463]

I assume Laurie will sacrifice herself and bring Michael with her somehow. Then her storyline can finally be over for real

[@markmac2206]

thats what she said in this movie so i assume that will happen. plus that will be ending it like Loomis ended it in 1981.

[@zonedout5998]

And then he will be back. Even in a remake. Which I will keep watching.

[@n1kkmoviezz463]

@@markmac2206 h20 would’ve been a great ending of resurrection didn’t ruin it😂

[@n1kkmoviezz463]

@@zonedout5998 true but a totally different story and version which will be good

[@markmac2206]

@@n1kkmoviezz463 god i hate that movie.

[@patrickcharles6983]

The "Evil Dies Tonight" drinking game should be a thing after this movie lol. This movie rocked as a theater experience.

[@chasebanks4302]

If people played that drinking game it would be liver dies tonight.

[@patrickcharles6983]

@@chasebanks4302 lol right? it's probably more dangerous than the Stephen King drinking game.

[@markmac2206]

you will have very little blood in your alcohol stream then.

[@kenXtripleI]

@@chasebanks4302 Liver alone

[@kevinskywalker5539]

@@kenXtripleI , Nice Scream reference.

[@awokennightmare4075]

I believe they modified the ending because Halloween Ends was originally supposed to take place on the same night, however, now that they are apparently time jumping 4 years(per an interview with David Gordan Green), it would make Laurie look really bad if she said she's coming for him, and then takes 4 years to get to him.

[@louisjohnson9432]

I seen it tonight and absolutely loved it. Michael was a BEAST

[@keithchristen8497]

I also liked Andi Matichak in Kills a lot. Great emotional moments. Like when Lonnie was talking about her dad in the car and she laughs into a cry. Good shit.

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

Michael in this film is the most similar to his original version in the '78 film. Notice the way he surrendered in the flashback to the cops on the front lawn is a LOT like how he surrenders to his parents that fateful Halloween night of 1963.

[@michaelkauler7280]

Really good point.....who played flashback Michael anyway cuz I'd dare say he was even better then JJC ....that guy didn't even walk he fukn glided..If they ever reboot the 78 classic in a new way that's the man for the job...

[@Hrian_Bayes]

Ending should have been the shot of Michael looking out/into reflection, then cut to memorable locations, kitchen, playground, street massacre, Myers house, and then back to the now empty window and breathing audio.

[@chrissayeranderson5710]

Had they simply all stayed in the hospital , cuffed Michael, took his mask and dosed dude up, they would have all been fine.

[@The-Malibu-Wolf]

In the bar it was open mic night. How cool would it have been to have someone sing " Don't Fear the Reaper" or " Mister Sandman" in the background?

[@marklee6205]

I was thinking the same thing either song would have been cool.

[@uwg2003]

I just finished H-Kills, and the ending made my jaw drop and left me speechless!

[@travis_mitchell]

The director has said there will be a time jump in the 3rd film, but I’m hoping that happens later in the film instead of right off the bat. I’d love the idea of a trilogy that all takes place on one night, leading to sunrise on November 1st. Imagine how cool of an intro it would be, to see a Burning Pumpkin, as snow flakes slowly begin to fall and extinguish the flames, the flakes melting and running down the pumpkin, and freezing into little ice sickles over the eyes and mouth.

[@gerald_the_science_guy]

Dude, your pumpkin/snow opening is 🔥🔥🔥🔥👌🏽

[@travis_mitchell]

@@gerald_the_science_guy Karen wears a Christmas sweater in both films, showing that she hates Halloween, and wants to move past it every year, so it would be great symbolism for how people become fearful for one season, but hopeful in the next season. The idea that Halloween and the fear that comes with it is frozen, and buried, to be forgotten about until it thaws again the next year.

[@gerald_the_science_guy]

@@travis_mitchell Yes 👏🏽👏🏽

[@travis_mitchell]

@@gerald_the_science_guy The last two musical score have been phenomenal and innovative, so I think of done right there’s a way to incorporate jingle bell sounds into a Halloween score in a way that’s really disturbing.

[@reggielacey2235]

Ew no

[@nc32203]

The ending reminded me of Psycho

[@luissilva8324]

What I love that this film seems to be aiming towards is the possible simplicity of Michael’s motive to the original film. Home. Michael was home when he saw Laurie sliding mail under Michael’s home thus disliked that which caused him to take out her friends one by one as a cruel joke until her got to her. Fast forward 40 years later & Dr.Sartain setting the bus crash up & putting Michael on Laurie’s path, Michael was just on a killing spree headed towards his house as can be seen in the flashback from Halloween Kills. He just wants to be home.

[@DeanWThomas]

I think there is more to Karen’s death scene. She sees Michael as a child standing in the window before she goes into the house. She wouldn’t know what Michael looked like as a child. Any thoughts on that?

[@phil2pips]

Bad writing

[@slowodanx]

bad subtle writing

[@petermaltezos9062]

News paper articles?

[@jeremyharper5034]

very true

[@DeanWThomas]

@@petermaltezos9062 that’s true but why though? Why would she specifically see him as a child in the window and then go to the window. It’s just my opinion but I think this is where the answer is.

[@toxic_braindrain]

Karen's death honestly didnt even feel like a real death it was so pathetic and cheesy looking, I thought it was just karen going crazy and was just seeing michael behind her like she saw the young Michael before she went into the house

[@JustinQuinn623]

Yeah there was no gore or direct stabs. It was just slashes and then she was bloody

[@intheredcold9216]

It was a direct nod to the stabbing scene in Psycho. Done the same way. That's bcz Jamie's RL mom was the first slasher m movie victim from 62's Psycho.

[@aaronjensen7411]

They couldn't have done the phone breathing scene probably because they already set the premise that Michael wasn't even looking for her or cared about her.

[@JustinQuinn623]

? He's just answering a phone, there's no personal motivation there.

[@TheChrischris27]

The ending totally happened bcos it will help and propel the storyline for Halloween ends. Laurie and allyson’s rage and revenge

[@rayraygunner]

I’m still processing this ending. What the fuck was up with Karen during this movie? What was drawing her to look out the window and her reflection like that?

[@infamous_gsxr]

I was thinking that same thing

[@DeanWThomas]

This is exactly what I keep saying. She sees Michael as a child in the window from the street then goes to the window. There’s absolutely no explanation how Michael gets back in the house without being seen.

[@pheonox14]

I recall in Halloween 2018 there was a flash back with Karen as a kid. They show her sitting her room staring out the window like Michael did as a kid. So maybe it was something to do with that but not sure, just a thought

[@maloperverso8118]

I don't like the Actress....

[@corrob]

@@DeanWThomas he was only a block away, he could easily walk around the block, betwixt the houses and in the back door, i fear you are underestimating his sneakiness

[@metalcoffie]

The way I interpreted the ending is this, the reason Michael was able to just show up behind Karen at the was actually explained at the very start of the film. When young Hawkins first sees Michael and he vanishes. His footprints just stop. He disappeared. Establishing he's supernatural. That's why he can just get right up after being shot several times (again) and having the shit beat out of him, then appear behind Karen. He's more than man and has a spectral nature about him. Although that would make me wonder why he allowed himself to be captured in 78. But would also solve that odd part in the original film, where Laurie is staring out her window and see's Michael in her yard, never taking her eyes off of him and he just vanishes. (Although he does disappear and just kind of materialize in other parts of the original, just that time someone was staring right at him.)

[@jacebales2951]

If Michael Myers is a 'spectral' being then I'm officially checked out on the franchise 🤣🤣🤣. I assume he got in through the back door that was left unlocked (even though that doesn't really make sense). It's better than him being 'ghosts and goblins' though. Jesus Christ...

[@LittleAngryCarrots]

@@jacebales2951 actually he most likely did get through the back door, sit was established with big John that he left it unlocked. Police and ambulance were just getting there and out the front. Karen simply made the mistake to not put that knife through his head like a pumpkin. Assuming he wouldn’t have gotten up after that

[@ravfan123]

I'm probably wrong but I only saw a footprints at the window, I didn't see footprints anywhere else

[@LittleAngryCarrots]

Michael does do his best to avoid headshots. He always get away out it. Shots in the chest just isn’t enough. Producers knows it, taking out his head is the solution which is why they have him avoid headshots

[@ravfan123]

@@malstaymelo sorry I should have explained more, I was referring to the footprints in the house by the window. I don't think they showed any other footprints in the house just the footprints by the window

[@TheCleanRapper93]

Karen’s death is a nice Psycho reference. It just felt unnecessary though and only for the sake of raising the stakes.

[@brianhester8918]

It didn’t really happen. Karen will be back. They brought back Frank

[@beelzeboo]

Its not only a Psycho reference (very much more on the psycho end) but it’s also a reference to Judith. I thought it was perfectly necessary considering: A: she’s the only victim (in this timeline) to unmask him since Laurie Strode in the original. Making herself a personal target. B: she not only unmasked him, but lead him into a trap so overwhelming, that he had to go limp for a moment to get out of it. C: We are never shown the backyard of the Myers house beyond what we can see out the backdoor when Little John goes and checks it. We can assume by the time Myers finished murdering the crowd (1 block away), he cut thru the streets again (out of sight of Police) and walked through the backyard, through the dining room, up the stairs, and right into his room where Karen was standing…… - That or he ‘teleports’ like we see him do in the first movie.

[@TheCleanRapper93]

@@beelzeboo yeah I got that they were doing a call back to Judith. As soon as I saw the close up with her teeth and the quick cuts I knew it was Psycho. I just didn’t want Karen to go. She did trap Michael twice and I’m sure he wasn’t happen about it.

[@TheCleanRapper93]

@Some Bawbag that’s true. Also it’s going to be really hard to break new ground in this series without angering the fan base. Even watching the movie, it felt like a Frankenstein of all the other movies. A lot of Halloween 2, the house scene at the end was very much Halloween 4 with Brady and Rachel. The mob thing was visited in Halloween 4 as well.

[@TheCleanRapper93]

@@brianhester8918 I don’t know if I’d be more disappointed with them killing her off or saying it was all a dream. Just bring back Ben Tramer.

[@iRegGun9]

They scrapped that alternate ending because it doesn't make sense with the time jump that is happening with Halloween Ends. Doesn't make sense for her to tell him she's coming for him with this dramatic moment of her walking through the hospital with the knife, with the intentions of going right to him when the movie is somehow taking place like 4 years later

[@ryangilland1514]

MY GOD I was worried that ending was a dream lol that would've been such a let down. Also I'm perfectly fine with the original ending. The phone scene would've given Laurie the last word. This is Michael's movie. Michael won in this film and the ending is perfect the way it is!

[@russellburns2414]

Lol I actually do hope it was all a dream so this movie can be explained as that. This movie was a major let down! It definitely has fans divided down the middle. I also bet Karen isn't dead, we all th Hawkins was, but boom he wasn't. All Jaime talks about is 3 generations of strong strode women nonsense, so no way she's dead and no way they'll have the balls to kill off laurie

[@spenddollarzent]

@@russellburns2414 right I do hope this whole move was one bad dream and Laurie wakes up lol

[@stephenballer3814]

@@spenddollarzent this movie was one of the best wym

[@sethurott9927]

@@russellburns2414 when you look at the past movies, this is a masterpiece.

[@joelrimmer6569]

I think Micheal can only be killed by Laurie and that her connections with him gives him his power and that his mask gives him that psycho strength

[@blvcklicorice423]

Fr i just watched it and came straight here Micheal has all my respect.he fekin murderd a whole town.whaen he was surrounded I was like what will you do now micheal and he proved himself more than a man

[@blvcklicorice423]

Only wished they played the halloween theme over that scene and it was not slow mo

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

I didn't love the slow mo either

[@DaveC66]

I thought Michael getting nailed by the pitchfork was a good homage to Halloween 5

[@huskyhancho3364]

Love mike, but he sustained so much damage at this point its getting kinda silly, im curious of how they plan to explain him being able to eat all these bullets stabbings etc.

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

Easy my friend, my dude is supernatural!

[@willwilson8964]

Some of you people in these comments need to be careful. Saying someone isn’t a true Halloween fan because their option differs from yours is truly idiotic. Some people love this new film and some don’t. Learn to accept this and move on. I loved this movie, even with its flaws. If you hated it, that’s ok. We can still have a conversation without attacking each other.

[@juanherrera8731]

Micheal Mayers vs people of haddonfield scene was the best crazy fight

[@legionDC]

Thank you. You guys explained the ending better than any other channel with info not many knew about. Other channels "Ending Explained" videos were click bait or weak sauce.

[@carlosplascencia635]

HALLOWEEN KILLS was freaking amazing!!!!!

[@daviziongamez3250]

I loved that movie seen it like 4-5 times already they really did my boy Michael right absolute evil

[@tmajcan94]

Went and saw it today and wasn't disappointed. I'm very satisfied with the ending. It really leaves me thirsting for Halloween Ends. Evil dies tonight!! Love your fucking faces fellas! 🎃

[@snakethejake274]

I'm jealous lol I wish I felt the same lol Im happy for you and others who enjoyed it as a whole or most of it. That's awesome. Myself not so lucky lol way more cons than pros to me and think they missed the mark and dropped the ball in so many ways. But I'm glad that there's people who enjoyed it and weren't let down I'm happy for y'all! Hopefully they can bring me back to that feeling with the next 1 whatever they decide to do, I surely hope so halloween is and will always be the GOAT to me. We shall see next halloween! Lol

[@187mrsmith]

@@snakethejake274 lol seriously this movie sucked

[@Quest4Horror]

@@187mrsmith Same. I’m a huge Halloween fan. Michael Myers is my fave horror villain buy this film was awful. The 2018 film was far superior.

[@robertcurrie3386]

Didn't feel like a halloween film for me first one was better they just done too many kills

[@autastic4577]

My problem with it was having everyone looking for him trying to kill him took away from Michael's intimation they should of went the route of town wide shelter in place and him being the hunter and not the hunted Also movied did alot more wrong to but that was my main issue

[@Laurasbookhaven]

I feel like Michael will be the only one that lives on that street in the next one, he'll become like the Don't Breath guy.

[@selinaxXxXx]

I dug the ending. Loved the monologue with Laurie. Gorgeous ❤️🎃🎬

[@rachelhines7818]

I think with the little John and big John scene, they made the point hit home that Michael went to BOTH doors, bet Michael snuck in the back!

[@Starry800]

and Little John never went back to lock the back door when it was discovered that somebody was in the house, leaving Michael to sneak back in later.

[@McSpitz]

The phone call scene would have been a great cliffhanger lead to anticipation for Halloween Ends. They could always use it as the intro for Halloween Ends. There’s been rumors about incorporating the whole Covid situation and other things from the past few years. I don’t think they’d use it for the politics of it but more like the isolation. What may be controversial is that my theory is that Halloween Ends will be a road trip kind of cross country story. With the owners dead and gone back he towns people finally set fire to the Myers house, with no place to return to after his Kills , Michael takes a rampage beyond. Laurie and the remaining survivors follow Michael’s trail which would end in Salem, Ma, Michael’s original birthplace before his parents moved to Haddonfield. They could either have it that his kills are constant or pick up close to Halloween, either way, if not Salem, why not end the movie in a place where the Halloween tradition was born.

[@hamhockbeans]

I screamed cut the head off and no one listened. As the late Loomis told Haddonfield police its your funneral.

[@alucard624]

Should've gone for the head.

[@saelem7292]

The only problem I had with Karen's death scene was that she didn't turn around, look Michael dead in the eyes, lift up her shirt and say "Go ahead and kill me, Michael. But it's the last time you'll ever see these!

[@thetruckwashbathroomstudio2922]

This movie was absolutely insane! It’s a 9/10 for me.

[@Smoovey]

5/10 for me

[@nameonutube123]

it was solid

[@legendary.super.shannon9699]

@09:28 _"Every one's problem w/the ending is it just happened so fast, like how did he_ (Michael) _get back into the house...?"_ I mean, I just thought of it as, it's Michael's house, he knows how to get to & from/into & out of w/out anyone seeing him better than anyone else would. He was able to sneak around the whole neighborhood relatively unnoticed throughout the OG _Halloween_ & i just figured he did it again, when everyone was distracted by Karen, Allyson, & the crime-scene, so he went around behind the house & went in via the back, or side door, or a window, & that's how nobody saw him. I mean, he was less than a block away. Plus i dunno if people are aware of this, but there's this thing called _editing,_ so the amount of time it takes him to get to his house after he fucking butchers everyone isn't like real-time - it could've taken him 10 minutes for all we know. What an odd thing to bother people; the fucking guy's been shot more times than 2pac & barely seems phased by it, & ya'll are wondering how he got to his house so fast & why no-one saw him? This was an *incredible* sequel, to both the original, & the 2018 film, & 1 of (if not *_the)_* best films of the entire franchise - let yourself enjoy it, & stop trying to conjure up reasons to dislike it!

[@LA_HA]

Myers has been slipping past people forever, but This is a problem? Haha. Okay

[@LA_HA]

@John Johnson Oh, I wasn't attacking you or anyone. I was just pointing out Myers' Level 9000 ninja skills. When he wants to, he seems to be able to move around unseen very well. So, I this wouldn't seem to be a problem for him. Apologies if it appeared that I was targeting you or anyone. I honestly wasn't. I'm down for the fans whatever our different takes on things. haha

[@legendary.super.shannon9699]

@John Johnson Bro, what are you talking about? That thing at the top of my comment, that's called a _quote,_ & the time at the beginning is the exact moment it's said in this very video... Of fucking course i don't know if it's something you, personally have said... i have no idea who *you* are, nor have i ever spoken to you before this very moment!

[@legendary.super.shannon9699]

@John Johnson So you don't think there would've been a single instance w/in that time frame, from the moment Michael finishes killing everyone, (minus the invariable amount of time it takes him to get back to his house) to the time he made it up the stairs to stab Karen, that he could've, in some manner, have used to've slipped past everyone? You don't think there's a single window that he could climb into, that maybe would bypass him having to use the stairs, or any possible way he could get to his sisters bedroom w/out being seen? Like, i know it would _appear_ as if he'd have to use the stairs, but there are ways in every home to get from 1 place to another w/out being seen - My home for instance, there are several windows & a back door in my back yard that connect to the 2nd story, there's 2nd story window that's tall enough to reach from the ground in the front yard for example. My point is, there are simple, non-movie breaking explanations around this problem that one doesn't have to use a supernatural method to bypass simple logic.

[@seanobrien1079]

What about that bts where Michael is sitting in a chair in Judith’s room maybe that is the alt ending too?

[@nolachino504]

Right I was just thinking 🤔 that too

[@RetroDreamer18]

I wondered where that was too when I seen the bts

[@eldrichrylelerio1554]

Maybe but for me I think they'll show it in Halloween Ends I guess and maybe the original ending where Laurie calls Karen but Michael answers will be in Halloween Ends, too.

[@187mrsmith]

Am I the only one that noticed Halloween kills is basically the plot of Halloween 4 they just added on to it an changed a few things! If u don't think so then think on this the hunting Michael Myers theme was part 4 the killing the wrong person thinking it was Michael was part 4 The Dic head boyfriend redeeming himself but killed almost the same way was part 4 the young girl being the main character and having ties to Laurie part 4 If you can't see that your blind And just trying to make it seem like Halloween kils is original and so good with its recycled ideas 💡 I can go on and on and on and on these are the main things

[@AHLIYON]

💯💯💯 Yep!

[@goosegossage9936]

My son told me about you guys and I wanted to say I love your videos and live shows. Keep up the good work!

[@mikewarner5583]

❤d the movie! Hated the way Laurie narrated the ending!!!🐓🐓🐓

[@adamg4754]

He really killed the entire mob at the end 💀🤣 And how many times are they gonna say "He dies tonight!!" "Evil dies tonight!!" Yeah we fucking get it 🤣 they said that shit thought the entire movie about 100 times

[@30over3]

I like the original test screen ending with the phone better. Maybe they figured KILLS had enough flashbacks to the original already and didn't need another one. I also felt Brackett should've been used better instead of a glorified cameo with no depth. I've been wanting a Brackett return more than any other character since his non appearance in H4 in '88. Could've been a classic & dramatic return but no, missed opportunity big time!!

[@lizzymayethebordercollie]

Agree with everything you said 👍 Brackett should’ve had some impactful dialogue and confronting Michael in the mob or something. I wish they would’ve kept the phone ending as well. I was waiting for something like that to happen and it just ended 😂

[@markmac2206]

i thought Tommy deserved a great battle with Michael also. they built that up the whole time then as he winds up the bat Michael stabs him once and its over. like wtf? Brackett got like 2 lines and 1 was so damn corny, he deserved way better.

[@alucard624]

Seeing Brackett again was great but what they did to him pissed me off.

[@TREBONIANVS]

Agreed

[@ghostmyers2019]

It really did feel like Brackett and Marion were just thrown away. And Marion's death was spoiled in the trailers that showed her clothing under the witch mask.

[@KrazyVideoChick]

I enjoyed the movie as well. Two death scene broke my heart watching, but I enjoyed the film very much.

[@adrianlobo737]

What if michael killing karen symbolizes him killing his sister, he just kept slashing instead of just a quick kill and it was the same room he killed his sister I highly doubt it tho

[@jos234]

they did Micheal Myers right! can't wait for next year

[@PhillyFrench89]

The alternate ending will be a good opening for the next movie, will give it a good starting pace and get people extra excited about the movie when watching it

[@lizzymayethebordercollie]

Loved the ending!! Wish they would’ve taken more time for the Myers destroys the mob scene. Instead of the slo-mo montage make it a little longer and show the kills more. Allyson and Cameron fighting Myers is my favorite. Brutal man 🔪🩸🤜🥴

[@cf_1204]

I’m upset they killed Tommy in this one. Anthony Michael Hall was awesome

[@manoftomorrow79]

My question is why did Karen see 6 yr old Michael upstairs when she has no idea what Michael looked like as a child did somebody give her a marijuana brownie before she arrived at the Myer's House?

[@horrorhound3]

Karen seeing a young Myers made me wonder if what we saw was real. It's a very strange shot to add into the scene. Definitely makes me wonder.

[@michaelkauler7280]

Maybe it was creepy foreboding that a few minutes later she'll be killed by him in that very same spot.... for what ever reason that window in his sister's room is very important to him...

[@trishleon8551]

The window and room is important to him because it is where he killed first. It was when he transformed to pure evil. Karen saw a 6 year old Michael because she believed there was still good in him. She wanted to believe he could be saved.

[@jasonmacumber9804]

I am pretty sure the ending was tweaked because originally Ends was going to pick up immediately after Kills. Laurie saying I am coming for you Michael made more sense that way. I think with the fact they decided to jump forward four years, having it end the way it did now makes more sense.

[@TheFinnRondy_]

I went with my Grandpa to see the movie in theaters and I loved it but was bummed out to see Tommy and Brackett get killed right at the End

[@sidekick190]

How are some people not getting that Karen was killed exactly the way Michael killed Judith?! The camera work, the way Karen was screaming & holding her hands up. C’mon man!!

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

It's so obvious it didn't need to be mentioned, lol. It's not that we didn't notice. That was the whole point.

[@sidekick190]

@@WeWatchedAMovie haha omg not talking about you guys, I was talking about people hating on it. A lot are saying the way she died was weird and the directing was bad. I’m like “huh”?!

[@JabrenHarris98]

Halloween Kills to me felt like a montage or a compilation of Michael killing. Compared to 2018 which felt like more of a movie because of the storyline kept me focus

[@HeiseyMotors]

H18 was certainly a better structured movie. I felt it was way more of a "movie" than Kills was, you're absolutely correct there.

[@Smoovey]

“Kills” was trash af, people are overhyping it imo. My theatre was packed but I could tell by the energy that people were disappointed when it ended.

[@JabrenHarris98]

@@Smoovey Idk about “trash” 🤣 but I enjoyed it it’s the best out of all the other Halloween IMO. Sure the storyline wasn’t there as much as it was in H18 but when comes down to Halloween theme and the killings by far the best. Only Halloween I consider “Trash” is Halloween 5 and anyone who is a Halloween fan and not even fan but just a casual can contest to that Halloween 5 is dog shit

[@Smoovey]

@@JabrenHarris98 I say trash because it wasn’t really that enjoyable for me. There were so many cringy moments, some of the acting was so over the top, almost every single character seemed extremely overly dumb, there was way too much comedy (that wasn’t even funny), there was so much build up for the kills but a lot of the actual kills were just quick and over, the CGI was terrible (knife going through the male nurse’s eye), and I didn’t like the ending at all (the slow-mo killing, nobody shooting the head, the window scene, etc).

[@michaelkauler7280]

I can see this dude's point, at times it seemed like a 'Michaels greatest hits' jam .. Didn't have any substance to it like 2018 did, the flash backs were the most interesting part for me... It suffers like many sequels of a trilogy do, hopefully if they get Halloween ends right it will narrow the scope down an get us all reinvested in the story again an seem like 1 long 330 min well rounded story

[@xkmmx2132]

BROOOOo you guys have the blockbuster VHS version of the original that is bad ass lol!!! I still have mine too. It is the oniy VHS version I have ever found.

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

I love it!

[@OneSideofFries]

I liked the movie. Some of the characters from the original movie that died in this one, I think should’ve either had a better ending to their character arc or have them survive for the next movie and perhaps kill them there. The ending just had me asking myself, “Why did it end the way it did?” I don’t mind Karen dying, I just don’t understand the setup of her death. Why was she able to imagine Michael as a kid if she didn’t know what he looked like as a kid? Why did that make her or what made her want to go inside the house and look out the window? How did Michael get back to the house without being seen by all those people? It just doesn’t add up but I guess that’s the point of this ending to have people asking questions. The alternate ending sounds cool, however it doesn’t mean it could be better or more fitting for this movie. I guess that all depends on how the alternate ending will look once it’s released. I like the idea of if you were to end this series, it’s gotta end with the two main characters that started it all. Can’t wait to see the new Scream movie that comes out next year.

[@OneSideofFries]

@@adamCarter20 We assume that cause that is what we see. It could be that she went to see through the window from his point of view like the officer was talking about.

[@C-Squared20]

I saw the movie Thursday night and I've been on cloud 9 STILL! I love and adore this movie. I'm truly looking forward to the spoiler review stream! As for my two cents on the ending, I feel while the alternative ending sounds dope as hell and it would be cool to see not just the callback to the phone call in the first movie, but to see Laurie react to Karen's death. But what I do love about the final shot being of Michael, it symboized what we all predicted. Michael Won. Also a question for everyone, I saw someone point out Karen's death reminded them of Psycho. But for me, this is what blew my mind personally. Did I predict Karen's death? Yes. BUT her dying VERY closely to how Judith died after Karen's earlier dialogue... That make me perk out of my seat! I truly didn't expect that...

[@tajcee]

I’m still trying to figure out the significance of the window in the Myers house. It’s like they took Loomis’ anecdotes of MM staring out of windows and looking through walls and made it more metaphorical…but for what? It’s stupefying. 🧐

[@LA_HA]

I kinda think they're trying to understand Myers. It's like when early humans used to make up stories and lore about the things they couldn't explain. We live in an age of trying to understand killers and all that. Remember Karen's speech about knowing the world is really filled with goodness and rainbows in H18? What we've been seeing is that everyone who tries to understand Myers ends up toes up. But, as Loomis kept warning everyone, he's not human, so there is No understanding him any more than there's a chance of Myers understanding others aside from how to torment and hunt them. Karen refused to fully understand her mother's point of view, so when she tried to do what the newbie deputy did, think of him as a little boy in a man's body, his friend paid the price. And by trying to look out the window to understand Myers, Karen found him, then died.

[@markmac2206]

i been trying to make a connection all day and i got nothing so far.

[@timmccue9407]

Considering all of the previous sequels before 2018 were dismissed, he really didn't have a long history of terrorizing that town. Why the average Haddonfield resident was willing to hunt him down was a bit puzzling to me, along with all the "evil" references, and the whole window thing. Total fan of the original, and the series as a whole, but a bit disappointed in this one.

[@tajcee]

@@timmccue9407 Yeah it’s a total stretch to imagine that a town would still continue to be reeling after only 3 victims were killed that Halloween night 40 years on. If they hadn’t retconned all films after Halloween II, then I’d be more inclined to believe it. But as it stands these new films aren’t giving us anything new, and I think it’s odd that David Gordon Green is saying the old films don’t count after ‘78 but continues to cherry pick story beats and instill easter eggs from those films… 🧐

[@deetrelldailey8169]

"Your last name sounds like a coffee and I would order it" Me too j😂

[@AKAWhatsinaname]

I agree with Mike I would love to see that original ending left in. I can see why J wouldn't want that though. I heard the reason it was actually cut was because of the time jump we are getting in the next one, and when the test screening happened it was still going to take place on the same night in Ends but covid changed that.

[@ravfan123]

Damn if that's true I really wish they would have had that ending in the theatrical version

[@jase911]

Please do more videos like this! It's great hearing you both interact with one another in person without random super chat messages interrupting the flow

[@Starry800]

If Karen was being stabbed to death, won't the final shot cut to Allison hearing her mom's screams? She was sitting out in front steps when Karen went into the house and I know there are police and ambulance sirens so that could be a noise factor but also this is happening right in front of the window as well so someone had to look up to see what is going on.

[@masterofthefresh]

You guys touched on it but my issue with the ending is how in the hell did Michael get back in the house without anyone seeing him? With all the police and EMT's being out front. Even if he went in through the back door how did no one see him walk past them to go up the stairs? You have to walk past the front door to get to the stairs and the front door was open. If the alternate ending explains that then I would be satisfied.

[@lordlex4963]

The same way he disappeared in the flashback when Hawkins was after him. He's The Shape, like a ghost.

[@nickmattio3397]

When Michael Came Up From The Grave Like Dracula, Getting Up Before Killing He Should Of Screamed “BONESAWWW ISSS REEAAADDYYYY!!!” Lol

[@daniannuzzi5441]

literally JUST got home from the theater! Cant wait to watch this video

[@isaacm901]

Also my wife's theory is the only way Michael survived the angry mob attack is because he stole a bulletproof vest off one of the cops he killed in Halloween 2018. Would be hard to spot one under a mechanic's jumpsuit!

[@stevemorrissey4273]

Blood exploded out of his body with every shot

[@rcdune7132]

Gotta pay attention to where he was shot... No vital organs were hit

[@WillsonT011]

Whatever mental gymnastics people have to do to justify that stupidity😂😂😂😂

[@WillsonT011]

@@tonystarksopranomd the problem is, everybody involved with this new Halloween series including Jamie Lee Curtis, we're all talking about how they didn't need a supernatural Michael Myers for it to be scary🤔 if that truly is the case, all the shooting, stabbing and beating that Michael Myers took, not just in this movie but the 2018 as well as the 78 since they're all connected, he should be dead already. That should tell you that the writers put themselves in a corner that they didn't need to be in the first place by trying to take away the supernatural element. STUPID

[@nnotof3218]

Michael pulled a "call an ambulance, call an ambulance...but not for meh!" meme

[@cazeycroland4]

The visual thought of Michael hearing the phone vibrate, picking it up, using the touchscreen to accept, IDK, it’s a little much for me. Lol.

[@sinjin9994]

The thing about this movie is it’s so great and awesome, but it’s probably the only movie in the franchise that will focus on kills as much as it did

[@DD-eight]

Haha best description ever Jay!! Whatcha gunna do brother!!!!

[@genocideproductions7729]

I felt bad when Michael was getting beat down.

[@slayerreviews5660]

Just became a Patreon today and can’t wait for more WWAM!!!!!

[@jjsrealvoice8561]

How the actors deliver some of their lines they should be ashamed sometimes it looks like they are gonna burst out laughing like Karen and lindsey

[@tparkerevans7165]

I definitely prefer the original ending. The ending we got was too sudden and obviously edited. Many ppl believe the ending we got was open ended

[@MichaelMillerJ]

They showed Myers in slow motion getting blood on his mask, but the final scene moments later when he's killing Karen he doesn't have any blood on his mask. Dream sequence/mental break?

[@rachelhines7818]

The firefighter scene tho...*chef's kiss*😘

[@timothyeckhoff982]

The Undertaker sitting up after a beatdown. Could see some of the attitude of The Rock in Michael just before the beatdown with the just bring it attitude.

[@CarloisBuriedAlive]

I’ve seen the movie three times and have disliked it a little more with each viewing. Besides Michael being awesome in this, there’s nothing here. The dialogue is abysmal - everybody talks like Loomis without being Loomis. The people of Haddonfield suck. Bad comedy. The movie uses people’s knowledge of the erased sequels as shortcuts so they don’t have to build up returning characters. The flashbacks retcon the original movie’s ending from “Michael could be anywhere” to “Michael went to chill out at his house.” Why didn’t Michael have any bullet holes in the flashback? Why didn’t Allyson tell her mom that Michael wasn’t actually after Laurie which was a major ordeal and reveal for several of the major characters later on? Why was everybody unsure if Tivoli was Michael when the news broadcasted everybody who was missing from the inmate bus including Michael? How did Hawkins survive stabs in the neck and then getting run over - is he as immortal as Michael is? The two Johns were an annoying stereotype. Nurse Marion went out like an idiot. They got fancy with Karen’s kill because it’s basically a shot for shot remake of the shower scene in Psycho, but why didn’t anybody hear Karen’s screams from downstairs where everybody is? Horrible script. The fans complained about the Rob Zombie characters and peanut butter on my p*nis dad but are accepting some of the truly dumbest and embarrassing characters in this. Every other Halloween movie is allowed to be criticized for elements outside of Michael, but this one shouldn’t because they got Michael right? If Michael wasn’t awesome in this movie, it would have been a complete disaster in my opinion. I’m not as annoyed by the ending as some other people, but Michael is obviously supernatural and has probably always been supernatural. Loomis says he has the Devil’s eyes - once you enter spirituality and morality, you’re discussing Hell and Satan. You can’t say he’s amoral and emotionless while also saying he has black eyes and show that he obviously experiences sadism. His evil is powered by that level of darkness which is supernatural AF. They should have shot him in the head and have him still get up like The Undertaker. It would have been an even bigger surprise moment and it would have made the flashback feel even more important because that was what Loomis was going to do and he was stopped. At least it would have been in vain. Kills showed me that I’ve been entirely too harsh on Halloween 2018 over the past couple years.

[@spenddollarzent]

I agree with everything you said I couldn’t have said it better , people are being too nice to this movie and I’m shocked cuz I’m thinking the real fans like myself would keep it real. The movie is bad not as bad as Resurrections but still bad. I think the Rob Zombie movies are better now and I hated them too.

[@Rangersboy-sx3nl]

I agree with you on some points

[@RobertDoomsdayVasquez]

the guy that had playing loomis looked like H4 loomis lol

[@alucard624]

I noticed that too with the burn scars and such. They definitely should have paid more attention to that but I don't fault the actor as he did a pretty good job imitating Pleasence.

[@drumr72]

This movie was epic. You guys crack me up as always.

[@TheNameisPlissken1981]

Considering there is a clause in the contract that Michael Meyers can never die, I don't see that EVER happening.

[@HighGroundCantina]

Laurie didn’t have the knife anymore. It passes from Allison to Michael to Karen and back to Michael.

[@RR-hu6vo]

Didn’t they say they changed the ending because over the last year they decided to go in a new direction with Ends and this ending would be the best way to go to move it forward years instead of it being on the same night??

[@tayc9542]

Yes because the original ending was there because ends was gonna be the same night but now it’s a time skip

[@MrLobo1024]

I wanted Michael and Tommy to have a physical fight before he dies but no 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@MEZTLI2023]

I think Halloween Ends needs to be longer. There are many things missing. I want to know why he doesn’t kill Laurie? He kills everyone else but for some reason he can’t or he won’t kill Laurie. He beats her ass but he doesn’t kill her. 😏. I can’t wait for Halloween Ends. 😢🎃👻💀

[@prodigalbrock]

If they would have used the alternate ending that would havr painted themselves in the corner. ENDS takes a 4 year time jump so can you imagine "I'm coming for you Michael... but I'm gonna wait 4 years for dramatic effect." I think they could have had him kill her then pick up the phone and maybe insert shots of all around Haddonfield of empty places we've been (like they ended the first one) cutting them back and forth between like playground... Laurie on the phone, myers house, Laurie on the phone, biker bar, the phone dangling where you can see her (out of focus) crying in her hospital bed and you hear the breathing the whole time then end.

[@BraxtonWages]

What I want to know is why does Karen see the ghost of little Michael Myers? What the hell was that?!

[@carissaluttonmovietalk]

Enjoying the background setup :)

[@ThaDocta_Evans97]

6:47 That Drake reference had me rolling 🤣🤣👏🏾

[@tom3p0]

The ending was the one thing I was most disappointed in. Knowing that Halloween Ends takes place 4 years later I’m asking wtf happens to Michael since he’s in the Meyers house at the end and Allison and all those people are right outside? It felt like a full on rushed movie despite it being delayed around a year. The firefighter fight scene was basically all shown in the trailer, I was hoping there was more to it than that. The only scene that didn’t feel rushed was when he attacked Lindsey at the park and when Big John and Little John were killed. Loved the brutal Michael but dissatisfied with feeling this movie had more to be desired. Also the script ending of Michael breathing in Karen’s phone and Laurie telling Michael to run because she’s coming for him would have just made all those other shortcomings not seem as bad.

[@tayc9542]

That’s the alternate ending we will see on the blue-Ray version and the ending will be extended

[@alucard624]

Ending was definitely rushed, as if the "real" story they want to tell is going to be in Halloween Ends and this was just the way to get to that. The flashback scenes were cool though and I didn't even mind the Dr. Loomis lookalike. They did a decent job with that.

[@darkninja2772]

I agree with you 100%! I would have loved the movie if the pacing wasn't that horrible. Everything went by far too fast without moments of little character building scenes or anything that would make us care more about them. The ending was too fast as well. They must have edited the shit out of it!

[@tayc9542]

@@darkninja2772 it’s because Nc-17

[@stevemcgregor4737]

I think it would have been awesome if Karen was calling Laurie to tell her he's dead but ends up being killed while on the phone with her. I think that would have been better.

[@BlackAdder1970]

In case you guys haven't noticed there are lots of scenes from Halloween 2018 and Halloween Kills have scenes that kinda replicate Halloween 4, 5, 6, H20. I think it was purposely done because it kinda has that similar feeling from the other timeliness BUT it places those event into the OFFICIAL Cannon. Its like yes those events happened but this is the way it really happened. Like they intentionally did it this way to clean up the whole Halloween franchise

[@CorreSCpunk]

I feel like the alternate ending but instead of Laurie brushing off Karen’s death, she should hear Michael’s breathing and then just scream and then in in the music