An important thing to note. If you finish Cortana with a plasma pistol (which can be found in the last room) you'll also spawn with a Spartan laser for this same reason. There is no Plasma Pistol in the last level.
@UncleBaner2 жыл бұрын
Big true
@MishraArtificer2 жыл бұрын
BUT! ...what if you finish Cortana with a Plasma Pistol AND the Skull? Does it give you one SPARTAN Laser or two?
@tweaks85412 жыл бұрын
@@MishraArtificer hmmm I’m gonna try that
@noobslayerxxx2 жыл бұрын
@@MishraArtificer Top ten questions scientists couldn’t answer
@Nemesis74752 жыл бұрын
Possibly it can’t pass the tests mentioned. Maybe it’ll just give you default weapons as a result?
@tomahawkm46872 жыл бұрын
Generalkidd should have a degree in archaeogaming. It's archeology, but for games. Keep adding to your library, professor
@Finger1122 жыл бұрын
Can I sign up for his class?
@tomahawkm46872 жыл бұрын
@@Finger112 probably, but since it's February, you're gonna be on the waitlist
@justindaniels59232 жыл бұрын
He could certainly be a consultant on a game in development :) Seems like he has a huge amount of knowledge
@sivrahc2 жыл бұрын
That’s how I looked at him that’s why I love him 😂
@RoachCatJr2 жыл бұрын
he should learn to write scripts instead of awkwardly stumbling over every other sentence & making every video longer than it needs to be. this video was so refreshing tho, he spoke eloquently
@TheMAZZTer2 жыл бұрын
I suspect the second skull was intended to be just decoration alongside the bones and it was never intended to be picked up by the player. The map designer may have just copied the blind skull in since it was already set up with the right model and physics (or however that works, I don't make Halo maps). The lack of scripts making it do anything would have been intentional.
@natayaway2 жыл бұрын
i think you're pretty close... it must have been that there were temporary prefabs placed around the level editor that a level designer used as placeholders. and then later, when the artist replaced the placeholders with the final assets it just so happened that the new prefab included a skull as a mesh. and then a miscommunication occurred where a separate polish artist who was optimizing the game saw the skull and instead of it taking up another object in the list of map objects, decided to just convert it to a silver skull without an achievement flag.
@natayaway2 жыл бұрын
@@Nighterlev the blind skull in h3 (not mcc) isn't a gold skull and also the blind skull with the achievement flag was never meant to be on this map. the conversion to being a gold skull in mcc didn't do anything to the original game files.
@natayaway2 жыл бұрын
@@Nighterlev code wasn't stripped out, it was never in there to begin with. halo 3 skulls do not apply skull effects on pickup, they have to be activated from the menus in the pre-game lobby. other than being a pickup weapon with no ammo and having a specific skull mesh, it's completely empty and the code that "makes it work" isn't even attached to the skull, it's in the level script that monitors for a skull pickup event, which triggers the menu unlock and achievement flags, which you can then activate the skull in the menu to remove the hud. they did NOT copypaste the skull from the earlier mission and then remove the level scripts, it was intentionally positioned there by a map designer and a programmer would enter the proper achievement and menu unlock flags afterwards. both blind, and the cortana-duplicate also didn't start originally as gold skulls. they're both silver skulls. the video explains that the skull has the "secondary" silver skull in the game files which means it specifically came from the parent type of "secondary_skull". going off of the asset names in the video, it's inheritance-based which means when authoring game objects, it was created either a child of the "primary_skull" or "secondary_skull" parent classes (and in this case, it'd be the secondary parent). you don't assign a tag afterwards to make it gold or silver. if you're saying a map designer originally placed a gold skull there, and then later changed it to a silver skull programmatically because it wasn't supposed to be a gold skull, that doesn't make any sense. they would have had to placed a primary_skull object, realize that it wasn't supposed to be there, checked which skulls were planned to be there, and then swap it out for a secondary_skull object? no, in that situation, they would have deleted it instead of swapping out the object. the prefab makes way more sense. map artist created a bunch of prefabs, one of them happens to use the blind skull mesh, and art objects typically stay there throughout development. and later, when the game is crushing bugs and optimizing last minute a polish artist notices in the list of game objects that it uses the blind skull mesh, and instead of having a separate duplicate object in the game's asset list where one is a decorative prop and the other is an actual pickup item, saves a few bits of memory by swapping it out for a silver skull either not knowing it wasn't supposed to be the blind skull, or inversely knowing exactly that the level script isn't monitoring for it and doesn't have anything attached to it so it wouldn't matter if it were a blind skull.
@elongatedalbatross93182 жыл бұрын
That makes no sense
@hudsonk1racer2 жыл бұрын
Didn't Bungie themselves admit it was an accident? I remember hearing the original blind skull was on Cortana, while the one in the final release version was intended to be the assassin skull. Supposedly they swapped the two skull locations, but cut assassin due to time constraints leaving duplicate blind skulls. (Irony being 343 was potentially considering adding the assassin skull back in the settings for MCC)
@TMek422 жыл бұрын
The true Blind skull is the one in Cortana, hinted at by the game's code. The hint for the Assassin's skull is more appropriate for the one on Sierra 117
@PosthumanHeresy2 жыл бұрын
Halo 3's hex code has hints for each skull attached. The Blind Skull's hint says "interred deep inside her tomb." Assassins is in there and says "Where Heroes Fall."
@operator13382 жыл бұрын
When I used assembly to make my AR fire fuel rod projectiles, I finished the mission and the next one started me off with a regular fuel rod gun with the same couple hundred rounds I had in my AR. This finally explained why that happened.
@RamenCH2 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the video yet, but I remember being baited as a kid that this skull would give you Recon armor. So I kept trying and trying like an idiot.
@PinkSpaceDinosaur2 жыл бұрын
lol and now it’s free for all players
@Spartan375X2 жыл бұрын
Bungie: Yeeeah, it's a feature, totally not a bug. 343 right away: Yeeeah, that tank gun is a bug. I am now questioning other strong beliefs I have in these games.
@katzlover3212 жыл бұрын
Tank gun?
@Spartan375X2 жыл бұрын
@@katzlover321 Tank gun is on the tip of the cannons of the Infinity next to Outpost Tremoniuos. 343 says that was not supposed to be in the campaign once it came out and players were finding it.
@daedalus64332 жыл бұрын
@@Spartan375X I hope they don’t patch it out. Been too long since we had a Scarab Gun.
@infinitespace25202 жыл бұрын
@@daedalus6433 I've lost my faith on 343 to do something creative, they're probably gonna patch it
@marcusd7452 жыл бұрын
Today I learned that Halo 3 has the most asinine system possible for carrying weapons between levels. This is also a fantastic explanation of this skull, good job man
@orangeporridge15532 жыл бұрын
As for why it's there, I'd guess they planned on hiding it up there but later changed it's location and forgot to delete this one
@TMek422 жыл бұрын
Its meant to be the true Blind skull, the Blind skull on Sierra 117 is technically the false one - the cut Assassin skull
@seal_shepherd81482 жыл бұрын
*its
@orangeporridge15532 жыл бұрын
@@seal_shepherd8148 autocorrect. Get a life
@seal_shepherd81482 жыл бұрын
@@orangeporridge1553 lmao
@J_claud2 жыл бұрын
I thought it just gave you a Spartan laser and a fuel rod if you play as arby if I’m remembering correctly
@Firefrab2 жыл бұрын
You normally get a fuel rod as arby???
@DotDotEight2 жыл бұрын
@@Firefrab yes
@_The_Seeker_2 жыл бұрын
My coworker exploded into reality via the void after missing for 17 years.
@patrlim2 жыл бұрын
What?
@igee16052 жыл бұрын
?
@SectorFoxx2 жыл бұрын
What
@IcyPitz2 жыл бұрын
Yeah...what?
@zashbot2 жыл бұрын
so true
@gansotonto2 жыл бұрын
What a convoluted way of doing the weapon transfer… I’m sure there’s a reason but why not just check to see if the carried weapon is in the following palette (by name, not index) and if it isn’t, do the default?
@bable63142 жыл бұрын
Because, contrary to popular belief, Bungie was a group of really shitty developers. They just had a good story writer and good level designers.
@crashbash85492 жыл бұрын
@@bable6314 Nah
@gavinrolls10542 жыл бұрын
@@bable6314 Bungie tried very hard not to reference tag names nor weapon pallette indexes directly cause it'd a) suck for level and tag designers b) created wasted memory space for unused weapon blocks. Do some research into their reasoning before making a bold claim.
@JamesAChambers2 жыл бұрын
Game archaeology is a tricky thing. This guy completely explained it. He looked at the code even. It's a damn fine impressive piece of work. And I kind of wish I didn't know, or that the answer was different. That has to be the feeling for these guys almost every time. That being said, I do like when mysteries are solved eventually. Thanks for solving this mystery, I was very curious what it would end up being!
@benmontey34382 жыл бұрын
Heed: The skull doesn't do anything Me: But the spartan laser Heed: It's a fluke, it's a glitch Me: But that glitch still causes the laser to spawn. So, the skull indirectly makes the laser spawn, which means it technically can't spawn unless you have the skull. That said, does that technically mean that the skull does indeed spawn the laser? Even though it technically isn't intended to do so? If you were trying to bake a cake, and it comes out as a big brownie, is it a failed cake, or is it a brownie???
@marranin0072 жыл бұрын
It is a failed cake, but brownies are pretty cool so it would be a brownie. The splaser is a bug but it's also pretty cool so it can be considered an easter egg.
@benmontey34382 жыл бұрын
@@marranin007 Precisely.
@TMek422 жыл бұрын
the spartan laser spawn glitch isn't exclusive to the second Blind skull, the Tilt skull will do the same thing
@NeoDaxtoChief172 жыл бұрын
@@marranin007 Easter eggs are deliberately placed by developers. This bug is not an easter egg just because it's "cool". It's simply a happy coincidence that the game thinks the spartan laser is the closest weapon to a skull. If this bug only happened on Tsavo Highway, where it instead gives you a plasma pistol in The Storm, no one would ever bat an eye or think this is some awesome hidden feature.
@benmontey34382 жыл бұрын
@@NeoDaxtoChief17 So in other words, this is an unintentional easter egg. A happy accident.
@holymegametal2 жыл бұрын
Turning a easter egg into a spaghetti code glitch in one easy video
@discothedisco2 жыл бұрын
I remember immediately after my first playthrough of Halo 3 originally, I went back in to get all the skulls. It took me forever because, since it was 2008 I couldn't easily look up a guide on my phone. I printed out a guide of skull locations, but it wasn't very good, so I never found the original Tilt skull, I somehow did the excessive amount of work to get this one (it seemed difficult when I was a kid, it probably isn't actually difficult). I was really disappointed when I didn't unlock the skull. I even tried it on legendary, when you're 12 this level SUCKS on legendary lol. I eventually gave up, thinking I had a broken copy of the game. It wasn't until years later playing MCC that I found out the actual location of the Tilt skull and went back to complete the achievement. This skull is my nemesis.
@sweb61732 жыл бұрын
wow, very interesting. i wish there was more secret skulls that simply affected little stuff in the game. be cool if every mission had a skull that made the next mission different
@bannedbycommieyoutube5time9202 жыл бұрын
Agreed, there are so many good places to hide skulls, particularly in open world infinite. They could have had an internal contest on who could come up with the best places to put skulls. The best ones could be used for the traditional skulls, and the next group could be used for another collectible (different type of skull, maybe Spartan helmets instead) that provided little changes.
@noyes.2 жыл бұрын
How would that be cool
@Gizmo_-2 жыл бұрын
@@noyes. are you cool?
@noyes.2 жыл бұрын
@@Gizmo_- Way cooler than a forced unnecessary autistic fantasy
@jamesbhollingsworth54522 жыл бұрын
@@noyes. While this is true, I wouldn’t be so mean about it,
@PBart72 жыл бұрын
The Spartan Laser is a *glitch?* What the *fuck*
@Finger1122 жыл бұрын
A Glitch in the Matrix.
@shiveshsingh31692 жыл бұрын
I _kidd_ (hehe) you not, I searched for the location of the skull on Cortana today (I don't like Cortana too much, and was actually trying to get all related achievements for the level), and your video was what popped up in my search (the old mystery version). It confused me a lot since I was looking for the tilt skull. Amd here I am, in an apparent sense of Deja vu all over again. I found out about the existence of the second skull just today, and lo and behold, turns out it was a 'mystery' spanning 15 years, and you 'solved' it today too! Crazy coincidences.
@tpbablues48862 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how the mission it’s called “full circle” after the diagram explanation 😂
@thedrbat95722 жыл бұрын
Im just leaving my mark on a part of history, see yall in the future
@meman1762 жыл бұрын
Really surprising that no one ever tried to bring the tilt skull to the end lol and the savo highway one too. Like you would think with the tilt skull especially people would have already figured this one out based alone on the fact that you also get a spartan laser. But i guess not!
@ShadowDragon-cw7wb2 жыл бұрын
In short: Game:"What is this, can I transfer it to next level?" *Fails to find anything * Game:"Fuck it, giving you the "0" aka spartan laser"
@gavinrolls10542 жыл бұрын
Not what's happening but ight
@BulletProofBacon2 жыл бұрын
This video is like crushing a child’s dreams and telling them Santa isn’t real even tho the presents still show up
@SUPERFunStick2 жыл бұрын
I've been subbed and watching your videos since like 2015 when you first started. I don't remember the exact year. But I don't think I've ever commented on a single videos despite watching every single upload I see. I just want to say thank you for being one of the most unique, fascinating Halo KZbinrs out there. Halo is one of my favorite series of all time and it's just lovely to see you explore every minute detail in the Halo universe. You're one of the best in the world and please don't stop.
@Apophis3922 жыл бұрын
Great video. I had to re-sub to you because of all the non-Infinite vids you’ve been putting out. Keep up the amazing work!
@b.n.v.brandnewvideos85432 жыл бұрын
I used to think that it was foreshadowing sergeant Johnson’s death because after he dies he gives you a Spartan laser
@SamVillano2 жыл бұрын
I’m doing great today, Generalheed. How are you today?
@Keykar2 жыл бұрын
If it's possible, what happens if you take both the tilt skull and blind skull to the next mission?
@Aetheriem Жыл бұрын
Red ring of death. NEVER ATTEMPT IT
@trich7422 жыл бұрын
I found this skull back in the day and was confused because there was no videos or posts online about it and it made me wonder if I was one of the 1st to find
@miniaturejayhawk87028 күн бұрын
The bruteshot does more melee damage than your average weapon. Its almost as strong as an energy sword, being able to take out flood tanks in one hit even on higher difficulties.
@sap_phys2 жыл бұрын
Spartan Laser skull is now bugged skull.
@miniaturejayhawk87028 күн бұрын
The glitch exists in odst. If you start a flashback while carrying a turret you will get the default loadout after the mission ends.
@Ryan-xh7pe2 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a skull that gave you more Allie’s every mission
@spastictreefrog2 жыл бұрын
(2:37)That 3 person lineup shot was awesome 👌
@JJO1172 жыл бұрын
Any other levels that turn into other guns? As the storm going into floodgate?
@devilrecordsreborn53112 жыл бұрын
It’s 2022 and halo 3 still doesn’t have an infinite amo skull but has a flying skull
@matthewkalasky28912 жыл бұрын
5:24 "I told you not to touch it!" (Because of, well, you know.)
@Eco-VillePatagoniaChileАй бұрын
If you shoot down johnson with a headshot and grenade, his laser has infinite ammo and thus much more handy than the skull one. But General Heedigous already knew that I'm sure.
@vesstig2 жыл бұрын
I remember people would use that skull and cut in time travel or other weird sequence breaks into the video to say it was how you got Recon armor back in the day, good times.
@alexfrideres11984 ай бұрын
theres to my knowledge two more skulls hidden on cortana. i think theyre just decorative, like environmental storytelling, they have no effects and they spawn next to a pile of bones
@AmeHart2 жыл бұрын
This is so cool to understand even this many years later ! What a happy accident.
@gilliamm.57322 жыл бұрын
Nice work!
@agreedydragon2 жыл бұрын
ODST Symbols is still a mystery to me
@darkaoshi272 жыл бұрын
The secret skull seems to have a 90% chance of spawning in the campaign and rolling off. Yes, it still rolls off.
@RedForeman2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the laser over skewer … but that’s just my opinion . And the sentinel beam should’ve been a guilty spark you could’ve manually operated 😂
@Xx_Stogi_xX2 жыл бұрын
So I wasn't tripping, there was a skull on Cortana all those years ago... great job Kid
@Equalizer742 жыл бұрын
Now solve the Y glyphs on ODST
@xXcashXx32 жыл бұрын
Halo has so many mystery and hidden things that people still havnt found till this day
@danielbedrossian59862 жыл бұрын
I find funnier that the developers probably knew what is going yett they fixed the mistake in MCC that causes this skull fall in the abys
@TheRealSmallville2 жыл бұрын
We knew it was nothing 15 years ago man...
@TheChadPad2 жыл бұрын
Dude, great work guys. I know that took a lot of effort! Love this stuff. Is this something similar to why when you carry over an empty energy sword into Metropolis on Halo 2 it has infinite ammo?
@squishymusic97232 жыл бұрын
If you carried the spartan laser from the covenant to the end of cortana and also the skull, would you have 2 lasers in Halo?
@evanellis75432 жыл бұрын
I think the code would probably prevent that from happening. It would probably replace the skull with the next closest option to the Spartan laser
@Folfah2 жыл бұрын
i remember finding this skull before there where any vids.
@Hakohn25112 жыл бұрын
As a gameplay programmer, I can easily say that the logic behind this is SO WEIRD. Why would they not just have a reference to / GUID of / name of that particular weapon? Seems to do so many unnecessary checks...
@theneoreformationist2 жыл бұрын
possibly they had prototypes/variants that weren't used in the game, or are found on other levels. Also since it sounds like some levels may not have that weapon, they needed to replace with something similar. It's still weird.
@gavinrolls10542 жыл бұрын
Bungie tried very hard not to reference tag names nor weapon pallette indexes directly cause it'd a) suck for level and tag designers b) created wasted memory space for unused weapon blocks
@Hakohn25112 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know. After all, this complex check is done only once at the beginning of a level, so it is worth it instead of making the others' job not difficult.
@regularstan62122 жыл бұрын
Halo 3 Engine is very complex
@ATP2555ify2 жыл бұрын
Can you do the truth about the Ghost of Lockout? It'll make all those theories of it being an AI look silly.
@BungieStudios2 жыл бұрын
11:38 👉👌𝕻𝖍𝖆𝖐𝖍𝖚𝖗 𝕬'𝖓𝖔𝖔𝖘 𝕿𝖎𝖑𝖋𝖚𝖑👍🍑
@CobbsterSniper2 жыл бұрын
Love these halo 3 videos
@gamercheese42032 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@TKdaFox12 жыл бұрын
Me and my buddies always thought it was a second iron skull
@sagatparkes2 жыл бұрын
When I die put my money in the grave I really got to put a couple snickers in the place
@manicrhymes95522 жыл бұрын
Kinda wanna know the projectile speeds of the Halo Infinite weapons. They are very clearly projectile but how fast are they moving and other properties do they have? Curious
@frozensquash80982 жыл бұрын
So O(n) time complexity for checking if the skull has a barrel
@SnepBlepVR2 жыл бұрын
Your intro gives me anxiety. Thanks! You get a sub!
@ericdanielski48022 жыл бұрын
Nice video.
@WarVeteran213 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny how this is like a glitch or Easter egg, but TBH it’s really not worth it especially when it has limited ammo so he only has 5 shots, like why bother doing this to get a spartan laser at the beginning of Halo if you could get Outabounds to Johnson and kill him for his laser, that’s infinite, you might as well start the mission halo, with an assault rifle and rocket launcher despite the weapons on the ground next to the crashed pelican or carrying weapons over from Cortana to halo, which is the only weapon I can see is worth carrying over to halo is the sword and maybe fire bomb grenades, since halo doesn’t have any fire bomb grenades laying around but it would be nice if halo had it and if you could carry up to four with each grenade too
@florian99432 жыл бұрын
respect dude! love your videos
@gruntes11isttt2 жыл бұрын
I just played a few days ago and the skull still doesn't spawn in correctly
@catninja9092 жыл бұрын
Holy shit this is such a satisfying video I have always wanted to try this out on every mission!
@suprotikdey19105 ай бұрын
Blam be like: Why not. Why is a death ray not equal to a skull😂
@italianfromhell2 жыл бұрын
I don´t see anybody mention this, but I´m pretty sure the flame trower also gives you the spartan laser
@mybirdfeed36782 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, if you complete Lord Hood Boy's Gold Rush mod (replaces the mission Cortana) while holding a skull, you do NOT start the last mission Halo with a spartan laser.
@Sparstespark2 жыл бұрын
So is there a way to start the next level with a plasma rifle using this glitch??
@ardentparagon1592 жыл бұрын
I always assumed that the skull was not meant to picked up. And the spartan laser is just a byproduct of the way halo 3 saves your weapons across missions. Glad to see I was right all these years later.
@cytofusion60722 жыл бұрын
The only thing I ever heard about this skull was that if you picked it up, it had a chance to corrupt and delete your campaign data. Obviously I thought this was awesome and did it, and sure enough, it erased my legendary campaign completion and had to do it all over again.
@Faded.Visuals2 жыл бұрын
cool theory bro. but I am a believer that the skull posses magical laser like properties, thus grants the gamer a spartan laser because laser are cool especially when a bad mofo like MC is wielding it
@Selicularr2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if your running a new rig but your footage looks much cleaner
@x3lA2 жыл бұрын
@12:00 Nor is it a sneaky way to get Recon without Bungie
@fortune41222 жыл бұрын
This must be the blam spaghetti code I've heard so much about
@stardust_23392 жыл бұрын
It's not really that much spaghetti. It's a clever system because halo games have almost all assets stored in .map files. Many other games would just crash if there isn't a match but H3 rotates the variables around enough for it to continue working.
@162352 жыл бұрын
This is why I sub
@KAIIRU.2 жыл бұрын
Is it a Spartan's skull? The bones next to it look bigger than your average human's.
@toxenzz2 жыл бұрын
Legendary content
@masterchief87972 жыл бұрын
I think it was supposed to tease players about the iwhbyd skull
@THEL052 жыл бұрын
Still good to know
@pillcosby5462 жыл бұрын
You never explained how to get the Sentinel Beam on Halo...
@mocha82272 жыл бұрын
What changes it from a spartan laser to a sentinal beam then? shouldnt it always be a laser? unless the rest of your loadout affects it too?
@mocha82272 жыл бұрын
@LaffeyBestShipfu hmm that could be it
@Brain_quench2 жыл бұрын
So halo uses decision tree algorithms? Cool!
@Vikingr192 жыл бұрын
Imagine having skulls and bones in infinite! Oh wait T rated
@SUPERFunStick2 жыл бұрын
343 needs to remaster H3
@johnosterman4942 жыл бұрын
General kidd or general heed?
@ClonedGamer0012 жыл бұрын
So basically, the game thinks the skull and the laser are close enough because you can beat someone to death with either one
@Weltaz10 ай бұрын
enormous !
@brandonchris72302 жыл бұрын
Is no one gonna talk about the green energy sword?? Am I missing something??
@shoebillgaming21472 жыл бұрын
If halo 3 ODST has skulls Dare's helmet wouldve been cool for one
@ddsjgvk2 жыл бұрын
You can play as her if you beat legendary
@flameyoshi072 жыл бұрын
E
@LordWay2 жыл бұрын
Halo 3 is so cool
@theallaroundnerd98892 жыл бұрын
Okay, but I think the real mystery is why is there an extra skull. Like, Spawning with a Spartan Laser is only half of it