Halo CE: Development Weapons! (IN USE) 1998-2000

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@alexandru6747 Жыл бұрын

I can't believe the banshee uses flamethrower audio

@SomeKindaSpy Жыл бұрын

I like that a lot to be honest, the sound is iconic and makes the Banshee feel like it's alien technology.

@KnoxCarbon Жыл бұрын

Bungie used a lot of the same stock sounds for a lot of their early games. The alpha flamethrower, and later the banshee, used the same sounds as the screaming cannon from Oni, a gun that shoots literal ghosts.

@FXFXFXFX100 3 ай бұрын

@@KnoxCarbon yo estuve analizando video juegos hace años y encontré que un vídeo juego de naves de estrategia utilizaba un sonido de Mario galaxy jaja xD No los denunciaron por ser demaciado random

@ATP2555ify 2 ай бұрын

And the flamethrower uses banshee audio

@pjarmitage8003 7 ай бұрын

Reading about the development of this game is an absolute trip. It's a miracle it even came out. Changed genre 3 times. Bungie hired a marketing firm to help them come up with the title. Campaign didn't exist 8 months before release, which is why there's glowing arrows in the interior spaces to tell the player where to go. Just the most creatively directionless, ramshackle ass development process I've heard of. Incredible that it turned out any good.

@richardched6085 3 ай бұрын

That's why it was so good. It was literally a needle in a haystack. They went through every option they had before getting it right

@Hazztech 3 ай бұрын

Where'd you hear that campaign didn't exist until that late?

@jax2433 27 күн бұрын

No thanks to Microsoft though. Because of the strenuous deadlines imposed on them, Bungie could never consolidate their entire vision to a single Halo game or just one sequel. They didn't officially go independent until 2011 but the plans were put in motion to do so in the middle of Halo 2s development because of the hell Microsoft were putting them through. Og bungie were filled to the brim with talent though. Halo's engine was revolutionary for tech that predated Id Tech 4 or Source Engine plus all of the extra QoL features that made FPS bearable on console.

@HowDoYouTurnThisOn_ 17 күн бұрын

@@jax2433The would have never been released if Microsoft didnt impose a deadline honestly

@JIGgameoverSAW Жыл бұрын

It's crazy how for years, we only had the old trailer/E3 footage to look at. And now we finally are being able to enjoy it :D

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

It's truly a blessing. Think about how many Halo players never got to see this...

@JIGgameoverSAW Жыл бұрын

@@halomodder oof yeah you are right :(

@chaiyaa2times622 Жыл бұрын

Where can we play it ?

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

@@chaiyaa2times622 I haven't released the mod yet, and I don't know when I will. I certainly will release it, but I have other priorities that need to be taken care of at the moment. I have a large campaign mod upcoming, so you can look forward to releases from me in the future!

@beelzeboo 6 ай бұрын

@@halomodderrest in peace to all our fallen Spartans

@Loch_Ness_Lachster Жыл бұрын

I love how the ring seems to glow, it’s breathtakingly beautiful.

@manydirt2600 3 ай бұрын

It never looked as great as it did in halo 1. Such a special game

@daltonstewart1317 Жыл бұрын

This version of halo looks like it would’ve been nuts

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

It kinda was! :D With some adjustments, most of this content is perfectly useable to me.

@Ambidextrometer Жыл бұрын

21:40 It's cool how this early version of the charged up plasma shot more closely resembles the one from the fusion pistol in Marathon.

@TheMonkeyThatDoesYourJobBetter 7 ай бұрын

The fact that the energy sword had animation for Spartans back in Halo CE’s early development.

@jeantoor7103 8 ай бұрын

Marathon's reminiscent vibes are so much more prominent there than in final game

@marcosrocha3796 Жыл бұрын

The side magazine gun cool has such a cool design to it, it’s really dope I’ve always like the fg42 it’s kinda similar but would love to see it return!!

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I love the FG42. I will definitely be including this SMG in my mod!

@SomeKindaSpy Жыл бұрын

ngl I really like the auto-shotty's bullet spread. It feels moderately more realistic than the base game, and much more satisfying to use. The final SMG is fantastic, and I prefer it over the Halo 2 SMGs. A more accurate burst-fire mode is great. Release version of the magnum is the best version, as cool as the "space luger is". Though I'd love to see that pistol replace the one in ODST. early plasma pistol is kinda lame, and i prefer the release version; though the early needler is interesting. I like how fast the needles go, and it reminds me of the brute needler (AKA the Shredder) from SPV3. Though i LOVEEE that covenant shotgun. The early plasma rifle feels like a baddy. I miss that gun in Halo overall, and it's a shame what happened to it over the years. it used to have a strong ability to consistently stun targets from "burn damage", and then over time it just stopped being cool. third and fourth iteration plasma rifle is hot, i love it so much (i prefer the tracers and projectile speed/spread on the second iteration). I'd love to see that plasma rifle as an alternative. Make it be like the model that preceded the brute plasmas.

@SomeKindaSpy Жыл бұрын

the first microwave rifle is actually amazing, and i kinda prefer it over the beam rifle we got in halo 2 and beyond. It's so satisfying. interesting to see where the first and second fulminite (fuel rod) cannon came from, and that the halo 2 and later iterations were based on the early versions. I can also see where the brute shot came from looking at that first fuel rod cannon. that gun at 28:19 feels like it comes from a completely different game. I don't hate it at all, but it doesn't feel halo to me. that rail gun that you have to charge up at 29:00 is a dope idea, but def an early iteration of something that could be more interesting. Also doesn't feel like it's congruent with the other Covenant weapons, but not a bad idea by any means. If i recall correctly the gun at 30:50, is a "gravity wrench", and was meant to basically act like a gravity gun and punts vehicles and physics objects. the machete is dope and i wish it would've come back at some point as a human melee weapon.

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

Video is only available in 360p at the moment. KZbin hasn't finished processing. Thank you for watching and have a good day! :)

@SpartanJoe193 9 ай бұрын

24 years of history. Finally brought forth a to a new generation.

@asianmanfromasia Жыл бұрын

The flamethrower sounds horrifying

@pimpnameslickback7015 6 ай бұрын

Hell yeah it is

@myname-pe2pe 2 ай бұрын

It's just the sound of the banshee in the campaign

@PelinalDidNothingWrong 12 күн бұрын

I love how 343 canonised Master Chief's early design by making it a set of armor intended to be used by The Orion Program,way before the Spartan 2's or Mjolnir was a thing

@SomeKindaSpy Жыл бұрын

ngl i prefer this energy sword activation sound over the halo 2 one. it feels faster and more "vicious".

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

I agree, it is a great sound! I'll definitely be making use of it. :)

@nicholaswilson4895 Жыл бұрын

at 20:33 when you picked up that gun that would later become the mauler in halo 3 I didn't actually expect it to be an actual pocket shotgun. Very interesting to see how the development of this game went.

@Spartan_Tanner 7 ай бұрын

Fun fact: the mauler is called the excavator in halo 3's game files, this particular weapon in halo 1998 is also called excavator

@bivisbuns Жыл бұрын

insane how you can trace some of these ideas (whether functionally or visually) all the way through to stuff that didn't make it in until Halo 3. the sword / machete from the difficulty logo is definitely a missed opportunity for a UNSC melee weapon, as goofy as it is it fits the aesthetic of the universe well

@playerdoestheinternet Жыл бұрын

Here's hoping that, in the future, they'll add first-person animations for all of these weapons.

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

Hi nasol3287! I can't say for 100% certainty, but I doubt they will unless they're being paid to create new animations for the old content, or they already exist but are unrefined. It's unlikely (but not impossible) considering they are just digging up the old stuff and giving it to us to create new things with. The good news is: I'm here to do it for a lot of these guns! I've already begun working on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXXKonx8ZaiJe9E

@Derpsterchief 6 ай бұрын

Love how the rocket launcher didn't really change design much,except for the color. Shows they were already deadset on it,even before they decided what genre they wanted the game to be.

@goldstandardpersonalgrowth Жыл бұрын

Would be amazing to get an ex bungie employees commentary on all this

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

I would actually love that! 🙂 I've done so much to their game, and it'd be awesome to hear what they'd say about it. ❤

@LunaBoy_096 3 ай бұрын

17:59 Luger p2552

@XhoiZhuleku 2 ай бұрын

I'm getting moviebob flashbacks

@chaiyaa2times622 Жыл бұрын

The smg is so damn cool jeez !!!! 🤯🤯

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

Agreed. 😏

@9ner 8 ай бұрын

they should've kept the AR grenade launcher variant! maybe just gave it to one soldier or sgt. per squad. would've been really awesome to see in combat.

@halomodder 8 ай бұрын

Yo Stew, that's a great idea. I'm gonna feature that somewhere in my mod. 👍🏼 Have a blessed day.

@9ner 8 ай бұрын

@@halomodder awesome dude, look forward to it!

@handrising3714 Жыл бұрын

Probably many didn't come back cuz many of them had the same function but with a slight diference but damn those designs are awesome, when i played halo ce i always wanted more weapons, and those weapons really look like halo ce weapons, i mean they dont look older or huglier than the ones we got, final game still really good and i am not dissapointed with what they gaves us at the end wich is a beautifull fun game

@dignusdingus3709 3 ай бұрын

The 3rd person gameplay style they were going for reminds me of Resident Evil 4, with the moving crosshairs and such.

@MachFiveFalcon Жыл бұрын

The Super Soaker grenade launcher at the beginning had my attention, but the rest of these weapons held it. Great compilation!

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

Dear machfivefalcon2405, Thank you for your comment, and for watching! :)

@blueshit199 9 ай бұрын

can't get over the fact they had a perfectly fine looking and animated h2/3 fuel rod cannon in the game as well also the gold weapons, which I assume were early version of Forerunner stuff, resemble Tau technology

@halomodder 5 ай бұрын

It's astonishing how much content that is used in later Halo's was originally made in Halo CE. For example: The Shadow and the Spectre. The unused weapons are a very intriguing as well! The gold weapons definitely could be early Forerunner tech. Thank you for your comment!

@my9thaccount140 Жыл бұрын

17:55 Seeing this for the first time was funny for me because I had an idea for a gun that was very similar. It’s cool to see the old guys at Bungie and I have similar lines of thinking. That thinking being the P08 and C93 aren’t used enough as bases for sci-fi guns.

@PelinalDidNothingWrong 12 күн бұрын

We need some of these weapons to come back! Specifically The Flamethrower,yeah it was in the multiplayer and a few campaign levels in Halo 3 but we need it as a weapon in a new game,same with the Minigun

@CatcherSpartan Жыл бұрын

The handheld chain gun in this version is better looking than pretty much every other iteration of dismounted turret in the mainline games

@ATP2555ify 2 ай бұрын

24:16 Brute Plasma Rifle inspiration

@ToweringPepsiMan 2 сағат бұрын

You can really see with some of the weapons that Halo was originally going to be a Marathon sequel.

@Raven-Purple 6 ай бұрын

This kinda reminds of Gears Of War with the third person view

@carlg4544 4 ай бұрын

I've always thought my older stepbrother lied to me when he said there was a grenade launcher on the AR

@Norgumi_TG-q5w Ай бұрын

I wish they kept the under barrel grenade launcher, that would have been cool.

@blackagent4754 Жыл бұрын

Bro, this video needs more views. This is pretty much Halo history and the public hasn't seen the majority of weapons from the 1999 until now! This is like classified government documents finally being leaked!

@SomeKindaSpy Жыл бұрын

I mean... Sure? I agree it should be shared, but this is all part of the Digsite project that's being helmed by modders and 343 devs trying to dig up all of the lost Halo content from Combat Evolved's alpha, to Halo 4's beta.

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

Dear blackagent4754, I'm sure more people will see this video as time goes on. And more will get to experience them now thanks to the Steam workshop. Your analogy is spot on. 😂 Thank you for your comment!

@N238E 7 ай бұрын

I think the back of the box was referring to this version of the game.

@AG1k Жыл бұрын

It's a shame most of these dont have a first person view.

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

Hi AG1k! That's where I come in. :D

@GarudaTeam318 Ай бұрын

All weapons have an alternate firing mode.

@halomodder Ай бұрын

Yes! Interesting observation.

@ATP2555ify 2 ай бұрын

28:11 Early Sentinel Beam?

@gustavferreira627 3 ай бұрын

Where exactly do you go to access this test map with all the weapons and vehicles? I have played the map with the objectives in them but I have no clue on where to go to access this.

@halomodder 3 ай бұрын

There's a download for it on the Steam workshop: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3003419983 However, in this video, I'm using a custom version of the map on a development build of Halo CE. I took the time to reorganize every single weapon placement for recording this video. I also removed the cut characters and vehicles that are present in the workshop version since I wanted to feature the weapons only. I hope this helps!

@gustavferreira627 3 ай бұрын

@@halomodder Thank you but I was able to figure this out a few hours before your message. This whole time I was playing Crash Site and I thought you would access the test map with the weapons and vehicles after you finished it. Regardless I would still thank you for the link.

@stringbean5920 Жыл бұрын

Now you can use the difficulty blade.

@IGoTNoAiMBoT Жыл бұрын

Thats crazy!! So if they keep digging. does that mean we will get the cut Halo 3 Campaign levels too???

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

Yes, it's possible we will see cut Halo 3 content in the future. They're working on it now. :) Source: www.halowaypoint.com/news/digsite-discoveries

@SomeKindaSpy Жыл бұрын

They're working on pretty much every Halo game except 5 and beyond for cut content.

@grailw9221 Жыл бұрын

@@SomeKindaSpy wait halo 4 as well. it will be great to have the straight better early versions of the promethean weapons. that were not just reskinned unsc guns

@handrising3714 Жыл бұрын

Wow thats actually insane to think of, saw many of it years back and i was never expecting we could see a clean form of it, and now we could even play it

@AHPcameron Жыл бұрын

How’d you fix the camera? Mines so zoomed out 😅

@halomodder 5 ай бұрын

I make custom camera tracks.

@Sanctimoniously Жыл бұрын

Oh man, overcharge plasma rifle would've been BROKE in multiplayer.

@psps6623 Ай бұрын

BAH! It'll never amount to anything!

@halomodder Ай бұрын

Huh? lol

@Designation6 Жыл бұрын

Shame it doesn’t go Guh-Dush Edit: auto correct changed it to ‘share’ instead of shame. Allegedly the RL was going to be named G4H-DuSH implying the SFX

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

What?

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

Thank you for clarifying 😂 That's interesting!

@jigokutensei71 8 ай бұрын

8:35 This weapon “prototype” reminds me of Ripley’s custom weapon that she employed against the Alien Queen and her eggs, from the 1986 sci-fi movie “Aliens”. This is the scene: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZyboaifqsaAY7M

@Derpsterchief 6 ай бұрын

Well...Halo was heavily inspired by Aliens in the first place,so it's not too much of a stretch to say the UNSC assault rifle was inspired by the pulse rifle. I mean,it even has the ammo counter.

@Dyxzan Жыл бұрын

Now all they need to do is maybe add the old HUD for the player that was set in 1999 and it's golden

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

I agree. The stuff we got is a remake of the original in the current engine. It would be awesome to see the original weapon selector, but I have my doubts that it will come considering the way modern Halo is built in contrast to the old engine.

@Dyxzan Жыл бұрын

@@halomodder could be interesting if it's ever working though, I can't lie

@mr.balisong5399 Жыл бұрын

I really hope that they add this stuff on xbox I've always wanted to get my hands on these cut guns

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

That would be a great addition to Xbox!

@threebythestreet Жыл бұрын

How come when I play this map I can't pick up half the weapons?

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

Because the default cyborg biped that you're playing as does not have the animation references necessary to hold the weapons. That is why you see me playing as the 1999 Macworld Cyborg.

@threebythestreet Жыл бұрын

@@halomodder How do you change out the cyborgs?

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

@@threebythestreet If you're using the Steam Workshop version, there is no way to change them. If you download the Halo editing kit, you have to change the references in the globals tag to use the 99 mac cyborg instead of the OG, or you can activate "cheat_bump_possession" and just walk into the other bipeds.

@threebythestreet Жыл бұрын

@@halomodder It worked. Thank you!

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

@@threebythestreet I'm glad to hear it. You're welcome! :D

@ButteredToast81 Жыл бұрын

I thought the single shot sniper had an smg alt fire

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

I just checked the game files and the game itself, and I can't find any SMG alt fire inside the snipers. They only have primary triggers, no secondary. Your comment caused me to realize I forgot to show off the cut sniper scopes though! I will make another video showing them off. Thank you for commenting. :)

@Gothicc_senpai Жыл бұрын

commenting so this gets more views awesome video

@halomodder Жыл бұрын

Thank you Gothicc_senpai! Your comments are much appreciated. :)

@user-jr2ue9nu6y 6 ай бұрын

Did the shoulder have some sorta Multiple rocket launcher system

@halomodder 6 ай бұрын

I believe it's purely aesthetic. Just for detail, and doesn't serve any purpose. I even opened the model files for you to check if there was any attachments or anything that would suggest a purpose. I found nothing.

@stephenandujo729 2 ай бұрын

So originally Halo was gonna be like a third person shooter, and it’s going to have grenade launchers and stuff?

@halomodder 2 ай бұрын

Yes! The development versions of Halo CE were quite different from the final product. :D

@AlesterMyersWick 6 ай бұрын

rambo's explosive arrows on a crossbow?

@halomodder 6 ай бұрын

Do you mean the harpoon gun? Maybe! Bungie said they took inspiration from the Alien movies, so it's possible they took inspiration from others too.

@Nemesis_Prime666 4 ай бұрын

Its unfortunate most of these weapons never returned some look like they are from a total different alien faction

@halomodder 4 ай бұрын

I agree. They're very unique, and some are early Forerunner designs... It _is_ a shame we never got them in the official games, but that's what modders are for! :D I've restored a few of these weapons myself, but I'm not the only one doing it.

@commandplay 6 ай бұрын

How the hell did they get the files for this. This is the holy grail of Halo

@halomodder 6 ай бұрын

Hi commandplay, 343i asked a group of modders, called the Digsite Crew, to comb through an old hard drive that had _all_ of Halo CE's development files on it. They released a statement in July 2022 saying that they were doing this, and then a year later in July 2023 they finally released a good chunk of development files. Not everything, but a lot. There are still some maps I'd like to see released. I made a showcase immediately because I'm still working on Halo CE to this day. It certainly is the holy grail of Halo at the moment. Thank you for your comment, and hope you have a good day. Sources: (2022) www.halowaypoint.com/news/cutting-room-floor (2023) www.halowaypoint.com/news/digsite-deliveries

@SharplyDressedPlagueDoctor 5 ай бұрын

@@halomodder hey just lets us know if and when u make a mod for steam halo ce with all these weapons

@halomodder 5 ай бұрын

@@SharplyDressedPlagueDoctor I am making a _massive_ mod, and I will let you know for sure via videos. Subscribe to stay updated, and thank you for your comment!