Halo Infinite Player Outlines Are Not Needed...But Does it Matter?

[@KevinKoolx]

What are your thoughts on player outlines in Halo Infinite? Thank you for watching and have a great day!

[@mariobadia4553]

I never liked the idea of 90% of the multiplayer not allowing other people to see the colors of your spartan by forcing the red and blue colors. There shouldn't only be two game modes we're being able to pick your colors aren't pointless.

[@roshpit8749]

From a colorblind perspective it's amazing I've always had troubles seeing things in game so having this option it's a game charger for me.

[@Skinkledorf]

I think the enemy outlines should be off by default. However, keep the outlines on your teammates. It might be good to have the option to toggle enemy outlines for accessibility but they could also have a setting where the enemy’s armor is just whatever color you need for the players to stand out better.

[@CRIMSON-FLAME1]

As long as our team has some sort of UI on their head I believe we would be OK. But for people that think otherwise and or are colorblind there should be a toggle. Those are my thoughts on this. Because as you pointed out the UI for our team members are practically apart of our Spartans.

[@Girthworm_Jim]

Like has been suggested before by many many people, a great middle ground is indicators for friendly, whether they choose to use an outline, user-defined colored name tag over their head, or a triangle like in previous games, and have the enemies with no outline and a user-defined colored nametag pop up when your reticle is over them. Outlined enemies have some inherent flaws. From a player perspective they make it unnecessarily more difficult to see the shield break animation, they don't allow using the environment to try and evade enemies and play more stealthy and instead it's akin to putting a huge "shoot me" sign over your head if you even have a single pixel showing on the enemy screen, and tbh they really just take away from the art design of the game/immersion/whatever. In the flight I couldn't tell you what an enemy's armor looked like because I was too focused on the outlines in the gunfights. Not the case in previous games where I would sometimes call out an enemy based solely on the armor they had. That last point brings another issue from the developer's/monetization side of things: with the outlines, why would it matter what armor or color you pick when you are just going to appear with a big glowing neon outline to the enemy which hides some of those details of said armor? Why does picking your color matter when its going to be drawn over with whatever color the other player decides to use? In my opinion outlines actually negatively affect the entire point around having no team colors. In the end, less clutter and a more streamlined UI not only looks more polished, but it makes the game more enjoyable to play. With glowing neon outlines all over the screen it can get a bit annoying and detract from the visuals of the game. If I had any say, my vote would be for the subtle-yet-effective user-defined colored name tags over the heads with small friendlies' indicators that can be seen through walls would be the better approach, at least in my opinion. That doesn't mean throw away the outlines altogether, they are perfect for a spectator mode, just not while actually playing the game. Just my .02

[@bleedrainbows9522]

Removing enemy outlines and adding tags/names to allies while keeping their outlines really is the best system i think

[@CommissarChaotic]

I agree... I really feel like the outlines make it too annoying and sort of pull you out of the game... maybe do the thing MW19 does where names show on the top of players and coloured with either green or red for allies and enemies. Maybe they could do that kind of system but make it so people can choose the colours for those who are colorblind and stuff... it just pulls you out just seeing a mess of outlines especially for stuff like bigger team battle... like how can that one guy who hides in the corner with his sniper do that now? When in the past everyone could do that, everyone could hide in some place waiting to jump on anybody. Now I feel like it would be harder for that kind of element because of the glow players have... same thing with CoDM thats why i hate that game sometimes because they sell you tactical stuff like the Grinch skin with the ghillie suit and yet you just glow red to enemies...

[@GirthConfirmed]

Agreed. I hope that’s the route they take. Occam’s Razor - the simplest answer usually is the right one

[@CommissarChaotic]

nevermind my message, i read your comment wrong... i think? i dunno i forgot

[@riveravelazquezbrandonkevi6087]

There was going to be player names, but because of a bug didn't showed up.

[@Will_Forge]

Yeah, I agree with OP. This would be a great solution.

[@existentialselkath1264]

A really simple solution would be to keep the friendly outlines, especially through walls. But remove the outlines for enemies. You know someone is an enemy just as easily, the screen is less cluttered, you can still keep track of friendlies through walls, and stealth will work again. Most games have a similar system where friendlies are marked, but foes aren't and it works perfectly. It's not a hard fix this is coming from someone who doesn't mind the outlines at all. I was sceptical, but when I played the flight it was fine, but it can still be improved

[@PackHunter117]

Or remove outlines entirely and just have a bold font for the gamer tag to show up above the players head. Blue for friendly and red for enemy. Unless you change that in the settings

[@bleedrainbows9522]

@@PackHunter117 allied outlines do have benefits thats just tags and names cannot convey

[@existentialselkath1264]

@@PackHunter117 I've seen a few people suggest this, but how is text above a player any better than outlines? It's more clutter on the screen, it's not as obvious who the nametag is referring to in a crowd of people, and you still don't get stealth. Please correct me if I misunderstand, but surely its just replacing a system that has issues with another system with similar issues? A faint outline seems simpler, less cluttered, clearer, and more imersive

[@PackHunter117]

@@bleedrainbows9522 They can if enemies have red tags and friendly have blue or if the team colors are changed in the settings

[@PackHunter117]

@@existentialselkath1264 Not really the tags would show up when the player is looking at a teammate or enemy. They wouldn’t faze through walls like the outlines do. Which imo takes away from the maps when you see ghostly silhouettes on the walls or whatever

[@Jjz0289]

I think having the option to turn off enemy outlines would be a perfect substitute but still keep the option there for people who prefer that way

[@PackHunter117]

Imo Spartan shield colors shouldn’t be linked to the outlines. Spartans shields should always still glow yellow when taking damage

[@purebreadbuck6851]

Yes 100%! All shields should still be gold. We can see gold shields works with red outlines in the multiplayer overview trailer.

[@rmal8845]

I kinda like having green shields for myself though... maybe they could have shield color customization separate

[@rmal8845]

@NUTTY GAMING I mean when MY shields pop. For enemies I'd probably prefer the classic yellow color for visual clarity.

[@rmal8845]

@NUTTY GAMING same here, though I'd imagine they'll probably implement those changes post launch

[@rmal8845]

@NUTTY GAMING I'd like that option as well. I felt in the previous flight the outline were a little too bright for my liking

[@altair2_]

The names not showing up when aiming at an enemy is off putting, I can't tell you how many times I've shot at holograms in halo reach and being confused when no name pops up. If they decide to keep the outline or not, I feel like the enemy name showing up when aiming at them is important. It also creates those fun little rivalries in matches that we all know and love

[@SinnedxTV]

There’s an option to put the enemy names on top

[@peteplaysmusic]

This is probably the only thing I don’t want them to mess with that much. For visually impaired people like myself (I have Keratoconus) removing outlines around enemy players would likely render them invisible. So for myself and others who don’t see too well this falls under the accessibility options of the game, something 343 has greatly improved at. By all means tweak it but I’d urge them to not change it too much, it works pretty well already :)

[@h0gheadS]

That's great for the visually impaired, but the fact that we can't turn it off is really off-putting to me. I want to be able to see the game, not constantly have an assist turned on that makes my enemies glow.

[@KevinKoolx]

Thanks for checking out the video! I like the new system so if this outline system is the same at launch I'm all for it. Personally I like to have as little hud elements as possible. Less clutter on screen. Though the outlines are subtle enough they're not distracting

[@CRIMSON-FLAME1]

@@h0gheadS I'm not sure if you actually read his comment thoroughly. Try to read it again.

[@h0gheadS]

@@CRIMSON-FLAME1 And maybe you should read mine. I'm not saying they need to remove outlines. I would just personally like to have the option to turn it off. It feels like buying a movie, but the subtitles are constantly on and you can't change them.

[@peteplaysmusic]

@@h0gheadS An on/off outlines toggle would be fine for social games, it would run into issues in ranked scenarios though. Which setting would they use, outlines or no outlines for those playlists? If this is ever tweaked I think an on/off toggle is the likeliest option they’d introduce.

[@randomfurrygirl548]

Id say have an option for either enemy outline or no enemy outline. Player choice here is always best

[@dominicscarlato326]

But then everyone would probably keep them on tho. it’s kind of an advantage when you have them turned on because it allows you to more easily see the enemy in a darkened area. If you turned them off you’d be in a competitive disadvantage :/ at least I think so. They should just let us customize the colors of both friendly and enemy name tags, and make it so your teammates are the only ones with outlines/waypoints. That would satisfy the people with colorblind disabilities quite well I think.

[@riveravelazquezbrandonkevi6087]

@@dominicscarlato326 This, making it an option it's just as if they didn't remove them.

[@PremierRikLatyeskov]

Saw someone else say this but I also think it's a good idea to keep the friendly outlines but remove the enemy outlines, that way if the friendly outline doesn't show up, you still know it's an enemy. The indicator to see enemies would still have their username pop up and the reticle would change to red when you aim at them.

[@ducktape-3470]

That's exactly what they shouldn't do. That way, you'll have to move your reticle to the enemy to figure out if they are a foe or not and then strategize, which will almost always get you killed. Better solution - Remove friendly outlines by default but have the option to enable them. Keep enemy outlines, ( maybe have separation with shield colors and outline colors ) but have an option to make the enemy team literally red ( or any other color ), this is similar to Splitgate and it works shockingly well.

[@lustrazor44]

Literally could just use friendly name tags. Outlines are super intrusive.

[@sonaciel3403]

i think this is the worst possible system they could have chosen as all you see is a red or blue neon guy, a lighting system on the armor itself being red or blue might haved worked, or a name tag colored above the players, or having it RvB but you can choose what color they are for those that need that.

[@shangothunder1055]

If Halo Infinite allowed you to toggle on/off Red vs Blue most complainers would use RVB for like the first month to prove a point before immediately switching back to the armor coatings display on the downlow.😂

[@sonaciel3403]

@@shangothunder1055 well that’s not even an option to entertain since you can’t choose colors to begin with lmao

[@ripamoramee9112]

Honestly, I think making both optional (toggle on/off for teammates AND enemies) is the best bet. This way everyone can tune it to how they prefer. For me, I honestly just don't want to see my team through walls. It messes with my reactions to movement.

[@bigboi9711]

Easiest fix is to keep friendly outlines and remove enemy outlines

[@jacob818tanner]

yup, the current system is redundant

[@bigboi9711]

@@jacob818tanner agreed

[@spectrallmusic]

But in the late night gaming clip, even if the Hud had failed, outline or no outline, name above player or no name, the team colors would have been there to pick up the slack.

[@doonski8522]

Im so glad someone is actually talking about this those red outlines are so unnecessary its not the end of the world if they keep them but it would make the game look better if they took them out

[@breadboi8747]

I do hope they add the option to make put it to “realism” mode where there are no outlines on vehicles and such cause I’m curious how incredibly good the game will look

[@bananawingz8624]

I never thought I’d say Halo should adopt anything from COD but… Halo Infinites friend and foe system should work exactly as it does in COD. So simple, no clutter

[@parissama2972]

I’m happy that they are. I’m sick of red vs blue on the real.

[@KevinKoolx]

I really like the idea of no team colors and being able to express your customization more within Halo.

[@parissama2972]

@@KevinKoolx yes, that too. I’ve actually been waiting for an update like this.

[@a_demon]

Having the option to disable the outlines is all we need to fix this problem and to please everyone.

[@destebangm11216]

I really think they should delete enemy outlines just as how it was before, I have the exact same experience the UI is usually what tells you that, but with those outlines you can spot an enemy at the other side of the map and tbh that is unfair, and when a lot of people are together is hard to see who is who, the best option is just to leave friendly outlines and adding name tags on top with your prefer color type for people who are colorblind

[@alexcharneski7597]

Traditional fan here, been playing since 2001. I think that it's a great system. If you look at games like Overwatch, it feels more functional than forcing me to have certain color options.

[@KevinKoolx]

I've been playing since 2001 as well and I totally agree. I did have an Overwatch comparison clip but I cut it due to the video getting dragged out and Halo's system is very similar that it would be redundant to talk about in the video.

[@alexcharneski7597]

@@KevinKoolx I liked the examples you had in the video. 😄 No one else is really doing this deep level of comparison on the topic, great video!

[@empathetic4100]

Games like lost planet and Titanfall are pretty unique in this aspect, they both have red and blue but not as forced colors but it will be indicated with parts of the character armor glowing that certain color. But I see how that won’t work well with games like halo though

[@daltonburroughs3811]

I like the outline system because the name above characters had gotten me killed too many times in COD when a teammate was behind the enemy. The outline in Infinte fixes that because I can see the color which is nice.

[@GwenISayJump]

THANK YOU! My only three complaints with Infinite are that I want bigger waypoints for my team with no outlines for the enemies, the visual ammo indicator because of my dysgraphia making numbers abstract until I work them out, and that everything is all in one corner of the HUD when it should all have its own space like it used to. If we get those things, I will be overjoyed. Infinite could easily be my favorite mulitplayer Halo experience with those issues fixed, but they bother me a bit as they are.

[@Wouludo]

Amazing Video! Keep up the Great work. Personally i do like the new system, but i think it would be better if the enemies dont have and outlines but still an indicater of som sort

[@KevinKoolx]

Thank you for checking out the video!

[@mokaakashiya1177]

I'd personally want some UI for friendlys and then minimul ui for enemies so they don't stand out to much.

[@soccergoku24]

The only problem I have with the RvB thing in other Halo games is that usually one team blends in with the map while the other team sticks out like a sore thumb. Which is very noticeable in the old Halo games. But with the outline around the player, it gives me a quick Identification no matter what color armor the player has on. But if I had to pick something the old or new, I would pick something in the middle. Where a player can be whatever color they want and the Identification only shows up on their teammates. If this can work in Call of Duty Hardcore then it can definitely work in Halo.

[@IBrinkI]

Kevin ‘Allda Details’ KoolX

[@xSurvivor7x]

I hope the outlines can be customized in custom games. Imagine an infection game mode where the only one with outlines are survivors from the zombies' perspective? That'd really amp up Hide and Seek just for one example. Ofc it'd be like different types of outlines like "x-ray", "line of sight", "disabled" Plus imagine if it was based on spotting? Or if there was a timer before the target outline disappears after the line of sight is broken?

[@woodd0who]

I am colorblind, so it helped a lot when playing the game.

[@keeperofrocks4618]

Same, and with nearly 1/10 gamers being colourblind I think it's still a great idea to include the outlines

[@blindvalkyrie9352]

A long standing issue I've had with Halo is Blue team is really hard to spot, and at 4:41 bc of the lighting at first glance I couldn't even tell you if that was a red or blue spartan. The team indicators have also been what I've relied on as a visually impaired Halo player. I also play a lot of Overwatch and they use a similar outline system to Halo Infinite and i've never had any problem with it

[@spidermanfan447]

it seems so simple, have your teammates highlighted, and have their name above their head at all times, and for the enemies have a red name (or whatever colour you pick) above their when theyre in your crosshair

[@lustrazor44]

I really don’t understand the need to overcomplicate and clutter the HUD. All that’s needed literally is a name tag above teammates heads.

[@PhilDrangus]

It broke my brain trying to figure out why I was struggling to differentiate teammates from enemies when I turned down outlines in the Infinite flight, after years of playing non-Halo, non-RedVsBlue shooters

[@sebastianorriola6636]

Honestly if they just toggle off the outline for enemies it would be fine

[@solidice5660]

My biggest problem with the outlines is it makes the screen pretty noisy. Also just the fact that the enemy player is always glowing, and you are always glowing for them you can really stealth or use shadows to your advantage. Sure I guess it counts down on camping, but it still just feels so loud, to have all these colorful outlines on screen all the time.

[@dominicscarlato326]

Get rid of outlines completely or make them just for teammates. Waypoints and name tags for teammates only. Nametags only show up for enemies while aiming at them. Nametags can be color-customizable for both teams. Now you’ve satisfied the masses and colorblind folk.

[@kodiakcanuck]

I honestly like the change, but it can still be better. I've played Halo since the start and it worked for 1-3 because of the minor customization (but it could still get confusing which team I was on when colors switched every match). When Reach came out I loved the expression of different armors and wished my color combos wouldn't get covered by the team colors when that was what I was primarily playing. I think the outline glow still covers those aesthetics and makes it feel more arcade-y; shoot at the brite glowing enemy. I would prefer primarily team/enemy UIs as most modern shooters have that implemented (blue friendly, red enemy), and I've never had an issue figuring out who was on which team with just the name plates.

[@georgecastle1646]

I don't like the outlines neither, but I appreciate having my own colors on slayer, I really don't like being an all red spartan.

[@BlackWeeeb]

wow i just noticed you play with spoon?? classic OG youtube right there.

[@TheDuke9000]

What they could do to fix the controversy is make it an option for RvB style, or the new Friend n' Foes system

[@EntretuGaming]

100% agree. This outline system is completely pointless. Keeping the same UI than before without having teams colors wouldn't be a problem at all. The call of duty example shows it.

[@thirtyred7091]

The point of removing redvblue is to show the customization but the bright red outline literally covers most of the armor from certain distances and angles and you can't even see it properly anyway

[@CRIMSON-FLAME1]

That's the first thing I noticed as well so it completely beats the point. It should only be an option for colorblind people. I first noticed this during the flight.

[@IdealTheory]

Guess I never thought about old halos (+other games) using other UI aspects to differentiate friends and foes! Makes a lot of sense and now I'm unsure about the new system being needed haha

[@KevinKoolx]

The team colors certainly help when knowing who's on the enemy team. Honestly it's kind of a basic idea from team sports where you NEED team colors. In gaming we have UI to help indicate that.

[@hakanflodin4555]

They should just add a toggle option for Classic red vs Blue. I hated the new outline system but I love the Iconic Red vs Blue

[@haswright4933]

what i really don't like is the shield strength visuals. In every other game it is very clear how strong or weak a player's shields are because of the translucent design and the standout yellow colour. In infinite, there is too much colour info on screen and it gets confusing

[@oldcrow6752]

I've been saying this for a while now. Just do the enemy player's gamer tag above their name in (chosen color) when you aim at them and put the service tag of your teammates over their heads in (chosen color) whenever. problem solved.

[@BossBHPfilms]

I'm a bit of an outlier. I'm quite colorblind. And in all my years of playing halo I rarely think about the team color I'm on. 99.9% of the time I'm looking for the friendly service tag or emblem or gamertag over their head. Then I shoot at anyone without it. The outline system I find to be ugly visually. I'm all for no Red VS Blue team colors, I'm actually very excited to finally be able to have my base character colors in most multiplayer modes. And all I ever needed the game to tell me is who my friends are, I can decide the rest. There is also Halo's 'Stealth'. If an enemy is sneaking out the corner of my eye and not glowing, and I miss that, then they deserve that advantage on me because they were taking the time and consideration to slow down and sneak a little. Or say someone is in the enemy base and hiding as the rest of the team charges past so they can run and grab the flag. If players are literally GLOWING then these fun moments will happen a lot less or just never. I also understand the accessibility to the outlines. And that's great, I do really appreciate that. But at the same time with Red and Blue they would always blend into map backgrounds fairly easily for me, or even just blend together if they were close enough. Thats why I love having the service and/or gamer tags over friendly players heads. Such a simple and easy solution that Halo and other games have been using for years. Interestingly enough I had to change the player outline combinations multiple times before I found a pair of colors that I could easily distinguish from one another. Be it if the first flight had the service tags working like they wanted then it wouldn't have been as much of an issue. In a lot of shooters or even other team based games I rarely have the player outline or color be the defining characteristic for their identification. It almost always breaks down to being the player Name or Arrow or Service Tag over their head. But that's just how I see it. If people really want or need the outlines that's great. But I dont think Red vs Blue needs to return either. Just plain names and service tags will do the trick and I'm happy to see this video pushing closer to that conclusion. In the end, I'll be happiest when I can turn off player outlines and just have friendly service tags. Great video! Love the content! I always stay tuned for all the details.

[@crunchybombed2614]

They could do lights on the players like halo 3 and titanfall 2. And the colors of the lights could be changed

[@Baytuh]

I personally never really cared for RvB so this new system that 343i has us awesome but another thing to take into consideration those other fps games don't have friendly fire in their regular game modes like Halo does so it makes it easier to tell between friend and foe.

[@arrestedsolidyhe77sp]

I do have 1 complain about it, and it's the fact shields are so stupidly hard to see thanks to the outline, personally I would remove them and just gove the classic shield glow when shooting, I can't really tell when someone is oneshot or is full hp

[@maxoftheinternet5206]

Seems most of the community agrees on this but just to add one more voice of support: Worst option: how it is now with both teams having outlines Better option: Outlines and indicator on team mates Nothing on enemies Best: "Better" option as default with customizability in settings to have "none" "indicator" and "outline and indicator" drop downs for team mates and separate one for enemies.

[@fuzzygori11a57]

Whenever the little name tags aren’t there I find myself constantly shooting my teammates accidentally, whatever color their armor is. In Fortnite, for example, I never shoot at my teammates because they have the arrow about their head. The color doesn’t help me at all so this feature, to me, is actually an improvement. Especially cause I always thought it was annoying my Spartan colors could only ever be seen in FFA or firefight

[@AlejoConejo-vb8ln]

The simple solution is to allow the option for the outlines to be transparent. I was SO UPSET when I went to the menu and all I could do was change the color of the outline but not turn it off 😤. I HATE seeing the outline on my character's hand as he holds weapons. It's AWFUL!!!

[@germguy6884]

They should keep the system they have now and just add to it for the visually impaired people out there. So instead of just having two options for colors we need to have a color option for shields popping and a color option for the over shield that would alleviate a lot of problems here, but I honestly do believe that there needs to be a red vs blue toggle in the game for the people that have played halo for the last 20 years & also the competitive side of things as well. I do not want to watch halo esports if every person is going to be rocking different team colors on every screen that is going to be so confusing to watch unless everyone on one team is rocking the same team color and the enemy team is rocking their team color that the other team has them labeled as. I think this system is going to be a mess for competitive otherwise. Just add a toggle for rvb and both sides will be pleased. Hell this would even make people like myself more likely to spend money on the game because you’ve shown me you care about the og red vs blue system. Also how is multi team going to work with this system im just curious?

[@dahartluke8438]

My issue is that the outline opacity is so strong that enemy players are just glowing targets, so you cant see what the customization looks like anyway. It defeats the whole purpose of removing RvB.

[@KevinKoolx]

Well with shield flare taking damage in classic Halo players would glow as well

[@Ducain_Plays]

Fantastic video!

[@dragon-yu6gg]

I don't have outline problem since i always notice small details but i can see this being problem since not everyone has great eye sight

[@KevinKoolx]

really it's just something different and people aren't used to it yet.

[@musicheadjesse]

“who’s enemy, who’s foe”😂

[@bootytoons4986]

I love this idea of ui enemy/friendly callouts

[@lazychief69]

YOOOO WTF das ME lmfaooo 3:36

[@FreakZado]

You’re right. It’s always been a lack of the IU that made me realize they were an enemy

[@SportsAreLife17]

Kevin I have a serious question if I was signed up for the last flight and got in ( which I did ) does it automatically mean I will be in the one next week?

[@xx_amongus_xx6987]

Everyone saying there should be a toggle isnt thinking practically and doesn't understand the full problem. As much as I would love a simple solution like that, first of all the people who still have the outlines on would have a huge advantage, kind of forcing everyone to use the outlines. Toggling them off is only half of the problem though, because others can still see your outlines, which means no stealth. As for those saying that they should keep friendlies glowing and remove enemy outlines completely, that winds up going against the whole accessibility thing 343 was trying to push- because colorblind people then would not be able to see enemies. Unfortunately 343 backed us into this impossible problem when the simple solution would have been to just keep Red VS Blue and allow people to change the two colors to other colors that they can see well. But unfortunately, a simple solution was not the driving factor of this change, it was purely money for the cash that armor coatings will suck in. There's really nothing more to be said about it. We will probably get used to this inherently flawed version but it will remain inherently flawed

[@Finger112]

We only need outlines for Kevinkoolx since he is the main target for all the details.

[@supr3me27]

I agree with you Kevin I do not think the Outline is needed either, it would be nice if it were an option to turn it on/off for individuals who like it. I want to see the return of yellow shields ready to pop!

[@RogueShadow11375]

I like this cause I can show my spartan colors off. I prefer it this way. I think they should have an option to turn the outline off tho.

[@hrsantiago]

dope work, Kevin

[@shangothunder1055]

If Halo Infinite allowed you to toggle on/off Red vs Blue most complainers would use RVB for like the first month to prove a point before immediately switching back to the armor coatings display on the downlow.😂

[@brianwanta]

eh, I would love to have the RVB option. I've found while playing the last flight that my reaction time was a bit laggy and at times prevented me from saving a friendly that was getting shot at off-screen. That same night I went back to H5 and had no issues.

[@shangothunder1055]

@@brianwanta Sorry dude never happening it would throw a rench in there coatings hustle.

[@buddyimevil5775]

Enemies shouldn’t be outlined/have green arrow/players name.. only allies should have it problem solved.

[@KevinKoolx]

I don't mind the outline system. I'm more of a fan of less is better when it comes to UI though either way with or without I think it'll be fine.

[@limeaid]

My main takeaway with the outline system is that 343 thinks the players are dumb. Or young children. Let us toggle it, always put enemy gamertags above the enemy when you look at them. The friendly UI is too small imo. Outlines though I think take away from the immersion

[@subverter1.188]

It makes it too easy to spot enemies, instead only teammates should be highlighted not enemies

[@ZeeroDubs]

I'm not a fan of being forced to be a color in the RvB system but I definitely think it would be better to do away with the enemy outlines and let the lack of outline and/or red name above their heads be the indication. That sounds perfect.

[@vodwale]

Great, now I don’t want outlines at all since you’ve convinced me

[@Ebk-vk8px]

343i had Hoonigan make a 1000hp warthog

[@Axiios117]

Have 343 spoken to this? Have the adjusted this system or will they give us a toggle to turn it off?

[@lastchanceihave]

The outlines aren't too bad. I think they should have come up with a new radar or gotten rid of it entirely especially if there's going to be a ping system

[@TheCyberWizard2000]

This is my opinion I like they way there outlining the enemies and your team players so we can customize our own Spartan colors and like you said it's different 343 just doesn't want to copy anyone they're going their own route on how to make multiplayer and I like that

[@manuelandrade1738]

Why not keep both and just make them an option for people that can turn them on and off

[@jamB2007]

Honestly like with halo 3 why don’t they just do that? Have name tags above each player for who’s friendly and foe! I’m actually surprised 343 didnt just go with that direction. Maybe they will see this video and go “oh well what the hell why didn’t we just do this?!”😂

[@chrisofblades5167]

Good video Kevin! I agree with you here, I feel like if they just added the halo 2 aspect with NO team colors.. we would all be fine... its clearly obbvious to determine friend from foe

[@crunchybombed2614]

Great points Kevin

[@Aaron_LH]

Option to turn em off. That’s all I ask. Also, I need a waypoint over my teams heads with their service tag or gt. Dunno why that wasn’t in the first flight but it’s often equally important to know who died, in addition to where they died.

[@KRawatXP2003]

Bruh this same thing I am braking at the halo community how we can counter/fix this outline situation

[@dangerranger7745]

At the end of the day we will soon find out when we really get into infinite we will all get used to it .

[@BlackWeeeb]

but they should just do what they did with every halo game like 3 for example, do that but without the outlines problem solved. Also, give an option to turn on the outlines for the people who actually NEED it. Otherwise just add a big arrow above a friendlies head and call it a day lmao

[@MaximusOfTheMeadow]

Yes, yea it does

[@ziggythegreat]

not a fan but it works. I hope the new changes to the shield system make it easier to gauge how much shield is left.

[@skullboy824]

I dont know how to feel about the colours tbh

[@ZeeroDubs]

This is a great point. I hope this video gets some traction.

[@KevinKoolx]

Share it around! These type of videos always do better from word of mouth as they're not very searchable types of videos

[@ZeeroDubs]

@@KevinKoolx Definitely will!

[@jb1u23]

I dont get all the hate its pretty obvious whos friendly or foe based off the color you get to choose, and if it were red vs blue how is that any less immersion breaking?

[@strongerstrange3126]

It's ok Rooster Teeth killed Red vs Blue long before 343i did...

[@TheGateShallStand]

Personally, I dont like em. I like the team colors, because that's as it should be, but I understand not everyone can handle the overwhelming stress of not being able to be neon green in multiplayer. The outline system, with enemies, allies, weapons, etc, should be placed on a toggle. Toggle on, toggle off, two or three buttons, and either way give em a symbol in the overhead Gamertag to indicate friends or foes.

[@unrulydgj9589]

Yessir I’ll sub

[@funkykelly7130]

I definitely understanded the details

[@FreakZado]

Is 343 ever gonna fix their scaling issues. Why do players look so tiny from far away. Why are door frames on bazaar so much bigger than the Spartans.

[@DanIsJustDan]

With exception to the gigantic door, isn’t it just a POV issue? Players look far away because you have a high POV.

[@odinulveson9101]

Let there be an options settings, toggle! So both camps can calm down and noone gets offended. Just line with the option to hide/ turn off non vanilla armors, weapon skins, vehicle skins etc for past games. Same should apply to HI. I have been a Halo vet since 2002, but I DO prefer and see the potential in the outline system. In past games the ONLY way to show off your pure custom spartan look was in Firefight, FFA, cuTom games. Otherwise forced teamcolors. I do agree outlines and service tags/ gamertags needs max customization and KEEP it so its at least option to also have your preferred team/enemy/fireteam colors be reflected as your shield color if we so choose that. Now regarding inclusion trend regarding colorblindness, lgbt and so on. Want pure left handed options, weapon offsets gave me hope. If 343 could spare resorces to mirror animations in 1st and 3rd person except numbers, letters I would be overjoyed and send em a stack of 343 fav pizza! I want to adapt being pure leftie and with using southpaw controls for that for max lefty. I guess we lefties arent considered inclusion worthy, pff..

[@tjmaximous8263]

Thank you finally a good argument I agree with

[@WolfieGreymane]

My first reaction honestly is: have none of the people complaining ever played a shooter that wasn't Halo that didn't have team colors like most of them don't??? Well I get it's a big part of halos aesthetic It's not that big a deal. And this is coming from an old school fan who's been playing since 2002

[@TM-ss7hn]

people just wanna be able to turn outlines off. the people who want them can just leave them on, simple

[@BushBumperBaker]

"It takes them out of the world and into your UI" This is literally the objective reason why it's bad. It looks like shit. All this player customizations they're bragging about is literally bullshit because you cant even see anything on an enemy player without a bright ass outline sucking all the colour and detail out of their player model. I literally can't tell what armour my opponents are wearing even when hitting them in the face.

[@KenyaSG]

i never have a problem with bungies system, this system pisses me off and my eyes are perfect if disabled people need them then let them have it, i want it my way where i can use my functioning eyes the way i use them everyday if they need it give them the outlines, if i dont want it then let me disable it. if theres a competitive edge oh well nothing in life is perfect

[@sabu4539]

just outlines for teammates

[@KevinKoolx]

I'm kind of leaning towards that as well because I like having as few hud elements as possible.