HALO INFINITE vs HALO REACH- Noble Team Armour Comparison

A video comparing the differences between Noble Team's armours as they appear in Halo Reach's campaign and Halo Infinite's multiplayer. Spartans are given character appropriate body types and prosthesis.

[@shadepizza4217]

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[@salvatormundi5184]

Reach armor is the epitome of the Spartan style in the franchise. It feels practical, heavy and real. Not polished. Therefore the style is naturally more catchy. And every armor had its unique identity. Halo Reach Spartan armors are actually as classic as the stormtrooper or the Space Marine armors.

[@yvesgingras1475]

Agree with you. Reach as the best spartan armor of any halo, shout out to halo wars too.

[@plzletmebefrank]

Halo 3 also looks good too. Though it is a different appeal to be sure.

[@elfrikicarlos]

Nah.

[@jaski4022]

i prefer the look of the mark iv, the ones from halo: wars. the tanky look from the mark v (halo ce) and the halo: legends one its also great, those three are my favorites.

[@joshsmith6995]

Oh my god Reach aged like fine wine.

[@FLAM1nWaffl3x]

Reach is still peak halo art style

[@PsychoMoFoGaming]

Mom i want halo reach "We have halo reach at home" *Halo reach at home*

[@sunburnnttt5605]

Kat isn't cyan enough and Emile isn't colored correctly

[@shadepizza4217]

Yeah, you'd think with the new "coating" system they'd at least be able to get the colours right

[@sterlingarcher74]

Yeah I remember Emile’s armor being brownish-gray. Also the visor is a different color.

[@NotSoChattyYT]

Blame the in-game colour materials.

[@thechroniclegamer4285]

It’s the lighting engine

[@117chronicles]

Yeah and something's off about the chin of Carter's helmet, it's not narrow enough I think

[@UncleJakey9]

I like how rustic and rugged Reach looks. 343 halo’s look more like a cartoon.

[@Cup_70]

We are finally getting closer to 2011 graphics, boys.

[@E-damnn]

2010*

[@yoyogangsta6696]

Halo reach still has the best graphics in the entire series and you can’t change my mind

[@shadepizza4217]

Personally while I think reach has better details in some areas 3 blows all of them out of the water from a lighting perspective which really elevates it above

[@BroadFame]

Actually it has some of the worst. The designs were fantastic, the graphics however? Ass.

[@yoyogangsta6696]

@@shadepizza4217 yea im talking like in terms of character design and the spartans but 3s lighting still has never been topped

[@theunderdog9353]

@@BroadFame Are you insane? The graphics looked unreal back in the day, and they still hold up today

[@BroadFame]

@@theunderdog9353 They definitely did back in the day, but 12 years later? Nah.

[@themetagames5993]

I miss the Spartans looking like they fit in the environment they’re in. 343’s halo games have them looking the same no matter where they are. Makes them look like toys in front of a green screen

[@EmileProductionsA239]

Bro look at noble team 💀

[@spartanshadow90oficial]

bruh

[@crispychicken143]

its the lack of shadows on the spartans

[@normietwiceremoved]

Online modes brighten players and decrease shadows to make enemies easier to spot. You know nothing about what you're saying. You can't seriously tell me that Halo Reachs multiplayer isnt toyish in its art style.

[@themetagames5993]

@@normietwiceremoved say what you want but we’d both be fooled if those photos were actually photoshopped ones. The lighting on the Spartans feels so off in infinite

[@xaviershort7763]

Jun is missing the knife on his shoulder, Emile is missing the grenades on the belt/middle, and Jorge has armor on both forearms. Issues with the models unlike the people complaining about the color or missing patterns.

[@kerok66]

we're missing a knife on all armor types by default just so that they could sell it as a separate attachment instead of it being a part of the armor

[@physical_insanity]

Jorge has armour on both forearms in Reach, too.

[@lamealex17]

Carter’s chest piece is also missing the buttpack, Jun is missing his backpack (this was also missing in Reach) and the default Mark v(b) is missing the cap from the first attachment. These are the only specific ones I’ve noticed but I’m sure there are more things not present like all the the armor missing belt/hip items like Emile’s grenade belt among many others (both Mark v and vii)

[@robertogonzalez1907]

@@lamealex17 can’t have buttpack because that’s where the thrusters go

[@MechDragon108]

Halo Infinite's armors look super good and detailed. But i think if they made the coatings a bit less polished and clean, they would fit into the environment much better. Example: 0:40 On the legs in reach you can see how the armor is really scratched up and on the knees some of the paint is wearing off, Compared to Halo Infinite's where the paint looks like it was just put on and the armor is brand new and was just recently made. Maybe that was the vibe they were already going for in Infinite idk

[@EmeraldCoasttt]

It is important to note that most of the spartans seen in halo infinite are in training/ in training sims Whereas someone like master cheif looks beat to shit, it's impressive how much detail they put into the weathering for him in real time cutscenes

[@_yoshivolts_115]

These are training sims, not real battles so I don't think the armor would be super scuffed

[@jonjonboi3701]

Nah the armor in halo reach looks more details than halo infinite

[@dg7347]

@@EmeraldCoasttt what a shitty excuse to halfass the armor.

[@PsychoMoFoGaming]

Still sad we haven't gotten an artstyle as good as reach.

[@Scarlett1776]

?? Lonewolfs?? Samurai??

[@M_Drabski]

???

[@einar2004]

Not everything is reach

[@dominikdejanovicc3473]

I disagree, Halo Infinite has an amazing artstyle that is very much comparable to Reach and is even better in some ways if you ask me.

[@M_Drabski]

@@dominikdejanovicc3473 agreed

[@zero1487]

I hate how plastic and smooth all the materials and armors look in Infinite. Reach looked so good, and playing it at 120 frames looks better than infinites at 120 fps imo. Reach was very gritty and militaristic. Infinite looks like the characters are toys

[@mr.auxfruits6608]

Same goes for the vehicles and enemies I guess.

[@mr.balisong5399]

The armor gives me mega blocks vibes in halo infinite

[@danielpedraza6455]

It must be the new engine. I hate it.

[@rookie6254]

My God Reach really did ruin Halo

[@SuperScarab]

And what about warframe, destiny and titanfall 2 ?? Armors are clean, less gritty and shining in them as well what about it ??

[@Emll_117]

Look how they massacred my boys

[@Xbox3851_]

They got a heros death but we're brought back even worse then the scapes on their armor from their battles

[@Kizuki-0117]

What's worse is the additional armor designs. Jun's Scout helmet in Reach didn't have a metal carrying handle like the one in Infinite Edit: Even worse. They don't have the white stripes like they do in Reach

[@noble2311]

The more I look at halo Infinite compared to reach, the more I see that 343 gave infinite it’s halo 5 “plastic” Spartan armor design and colors. Not as bad as halo 5 but it’s still there. Halo reach is top tier in terms of armor grit, color and art style

[@SuperScarab]

The armors in halo infinite are suppose to be look clean not dirty like reach, you keep your car like that or what ??

[@thatsleepycat4445]

halo infinite models look like plastic compared to reach's ( good to see some people butt hurt over my comment about fucking paint on spartans LOL )

[@inventionscreator8875]

I think theyre perfect, not too dirty like reach but not too plastic looking like 5. Pretty similar to the ones in Halo 3

[@josehernandez2219]

This man fucking trippin lol

[@gavintherealest]

i agree completely, the games textures look like a dmt trip💀

[@doomguy2020]

At this point I think people like you confuse actual real world metal with plastic because literally everything looks like plastic to you

[@Xenomnipotent]

@@doomguy2020 they look like toy action figures bro. Get your eyes checked asap

[@stormy035]

kinda sad they don't have any of their unique markings. Also six actually has some armor and not just default

[@shadepizza4217]

Six is always your multiplayer spartan, so I set everything to "none" assuming that was the default, guess I haven't started a new reach save in a while. Also the part about the markings, agreed absolutely, I was expecting them to not have the specific scratches and burns, but I was surprised when they didn't have the white markings anywhere, seems like coatings weren't as deep as they said.

[@stormy035]

@@shadepizza4217 Actually six has a canon armor, wich is the basic armor with a gold visor, the top attachement of Mk. V (B), the Mk. V shoulders, the ugps and the fj/para kneepads (all of this comes from the official arts of six btw and the exodus level for the wrist attachement). Oh and he was made canonically male in one of the books, with Jun refering to six as a good man. as for the coatings yeah i don't get why they didn't add the markings, to make them unique (and if they aren't unique, what's the point of a kit ?)

[@ratoz8127]

@@stormy035 How can we know for sure? When you first start Halo Reach, Noble 6's armor is just the default armor.

[@stormy035]

@@ratoz8127 read the entire comment

[@youlikejazz193]

@@stormy035 Halopedia kinda suports this, but not all of it. The gold visor is debatable, but the top attachment of the helmet can be seen in a bunch of other media. The Mk.V shoulders, tho, is incorrect. Six is mostly portrayed as having no shoulder pads, although the Legendary Loot Crate stuff portrayed him with the FJ/Para shoulders. The UGPS, I can see where you're coming from, but it was ultimately left-over material from when Six had a fixed playermodel. Current material portray him with no wrist attachments. Knee pads, I can't say. Most of the material (posters and the like) often don't show them. But from what I got, he could've either used the FJ/Para or Default. Up to the player, ig

[@EliteKnight97]

I prefer the little details on the reach versions like the white stripes on Carters and Kats armour or the blue ones on Juns as well as the small warning stickers and text on all of them too. Made the suits feel like actual dangerous equipment instead of an iron man style power armour

[@soitenlyNotRob]

Lighting in Infinite is very hit or miss. You could have at least picked more flattering angles for them though.

[@nikolasrose4770]

That's just kinda what the game looks like tho

[@CHATOMARTINEZ93]

DONT TRY AN DEFEND THE BS.. THATS HOW INFINITE LOOKS

[@ANG3LOFDAD3AD]

That’s.. literally just how the lighting is and how armor looks ingame.. He can’t do anything else besides modding how the textures look and that wouldn’t be an actual comparison at that point.

[@rstriker21]

@@ANG3LOFDAD3AD 343 always struggled with lighting, They’ve improved somewhat but going from reach to halo 4 was jarring, it doesn’t help that bungie did black magic to make halo 3s lighting, you can see the vertices on peoples heads in 3 but the lighting is somehow super realistic

[@zazque1000]

It looks so unrealistic

[@LimitedSpartan]

Not gonna comment on the "plasticness" that some people are, instead feel a strong need to point out that Halo Infinite kinda did a botch job when it came to details in general, Like Carters shoulder pad not having the white at all, kats color being different, Jun not even having the right shoulder... etc.

[@AdeneTzr]

infinite lacks soul

[@flxingleton]

If China were to make Halo Reach this is what it’d look like

[@123theluvguru]

Man the detail on cats armor is insane like the grey on her legs is just the paint all scraped off from fighting like holy moly’s that’s cool :)

[@arthurvissol8901]

The armor are sooooo dam better in reach than in infinite. I hate that they remove the withe strip on the shoulder pads of almost every member of noble team and especially the details like the red strip on the helmet of Carter and Kate

[@DrBilly619]

I think infinite looks good. Maybe it’s not stylized as reach’s more militaristic look. But infinite looks like the video game version of a movie.

[@kaguyashinomiya2769]

Jaja wtf, but i think you are right

[@eduardoerosa4411]

obviously the Infinite halo armors are infinitely better, the problem is that the reach ones have much more details Currently, the best armor in Halo Infinite is that of the chief because of how detailed it is, in fact I dare to say that it is the best armor in the saga.

[@z3l3x97]

well it’s for you personally I prefer the Mk 4

[@jackpark2736]

This reminds me I need to go play reach again

[@RedTHedge]

George looks like a kid complying as him in Infinite lol

[@IkariSniper]

The problem with Infinite is that 343 gave those dirty/damaged textures to Mark VII core, while Mark V (B) should have it instead I mean, actually that's a thing of armor coating, but stil, there is no coatings with those textures for Mark V (B). Shame

[@Matrixthehedgehog9]

I really hope we can get those same details in reach armours

[@aer8975]

You ever just...really not like an art style? 343 turning my Spartans into Power Rangers

[@rwstuart9272]

Not even power rangers, lego figures.

[@ganggang2537]

Reminds me of those celebrity before and after drug images

[@protobust262]

I think what both sides of the comment section need to understand is that this is 343's interpretation of Noble Team's armour sets. To the reach fans, the sets are missing a lot of details, and I agree with everyone talking about the lines and smaller cosmetic details missing from the sets. To the Infinite fans, I understand that the characters have to be brighter in order to be seeable in the multiplayer. Personally I don't believe that's worth anything, but still, it's a generally valid argument. Personally, I think Reach's atmospheric detail was just so much more better than anything that came after it, almost like 343 just couldn't level what Bungie did with Reach. That armour design, the lighting, the small details that really empowered the grimness of reach gave it character. But these days, the approach is way too saturated, even in the campaign. I'm not saying Infinite shouldn't be colourful, but it looks like everything is just too bloomed out abd saturated. I dunno, that's just my take.

[@HasanBabasi]

Halo reach still gives me feelings that no other game does and infinite doesn't come close. These seem like 3rd party attempts to recreate it.

[@Maxywoo]

1:05 'What have you done to my armour?'- Halsey

[@Spartanlyra]

The halo 5 versions are so terrible that this actually looks great compared to them. And there is a lot missing with them in infinite

[@michaelt7987]

It's like comparing a character to their action figure lmao

[@cursedcrusader5487]

They didn't add all the little details that made the Noble team's armour unique. In exchange we get the discount version of reach armour for heroes of reach season.

[@ryatt9365]

Jorge been cutting a lot since Reach.

[@NobleGuardianW]

they should eventually add armor scarring into customization

[@masterpost5512]

Really wish that 343 added an option to make how worn-down and dirty your Spartan armor would be like in Doom 2016

[@SuperScarab]

Who tf likes that ewwww

[@808fishman8]

@@SuperScarab people who are older than 11 ?

[@suomynona4420]

Bungie models are so much more realistic and detailed. 343 just makes everything look like an action figure.

[@user-pp2sl5uo9o]

Jorge in halo reach and five looks like a heavyset, broad-shouldered hero, and in ininit he looks like 6-year-old me in my father’s jacket.

[@thaierekson7393]

My only Complaint would be that your comparing the Campaign Reach versions of Noble to Multiplayer Infinite versions. Campaign versions are going to better than their multiplayer versions usually. It would be nice to see the Reach Multiplayer Models vs the Infinite Models to get a more accurate comparison.

[@elongatedalbatross9318]

What? What the fuck are you talking about? You literally can't make 1:1 remakes of any of the Noble Team members in Reach's multiplayer. So literally what good would that comparison be??

[@physical_insanity]

The armours in Reach Multiplayer are literally identical to the campaign counterparts. Most of the armour for Noble Team comes from the armoury generator. There's no point in making an effort to compare strictly the multiplayer versions when there's basically no difference between the two besides the inability to recreate some elements, so using the campaign models is better. Genuinely, like the other guy said, what the fuck are you talking about?

[@JustinTK416]

I won’t act like I don’t love the hight fidelity rendering of Infinite, but the design of the armors has all the wear and key details removed, making them look almost like cosplay versions. And really, for Reach more than any other, it was the wear, ruggedness, and battle scars that defined the aesthetic, so naturally it looks kinda void without those details. I still think the Infinite versions are cool, but with criticism.

[@tinballs5763]

No textures were used in the making of this halo infinite armor

[@york9283]

A lot of the images were a bit cheeky though, putting Kat outside with more detail in the lighting department vs Kat in a small room with soft lighting, jun in the dark vs jun in the middle of a bright light, etc.

[@guyofminimalimportance7]

Whenever a new game features an old skin or design as a secondary or unlockable it will almost always look worse than the original. The technology used is better, but because it's not a high priority with the devs the time, effort, and artistry behind it gets worse. For example, look at the unlockable 2016 skin for Doomslayer in Doom Eternal. Even though this is a skin for the previous game in the series and made by the same devs, it still looks worse than it did the last game because it wasn't a priority.

[@Banana43-GD]

Is it weird that this music reminds me of Egypt

[@shadepizza4217]

I see what you mean I kinda thought that when I played it the first time too

[@cohioh]

The infinite version look like younger un battle-hardened versions of the reach counterparts

[@sinisterisrandom8537]

Kat's visor though... aside that looks great.

[@RadioactiveHorizon]

Reach Jorge armour: Absolute unit Infinite Jorge armour: Literally looks like the Reach version’s son like it’s take your kid to work day

[@brycekrispiez714]

Noble team at home: Noble team from Wish: Noble team from Temu: Great Value Noble team:

[@hare4755]

kat isnt... uhh... she isnt colored correctly and shes missing something else

[@shadepizza4217]

Is this a prosthetic arm joke or a female Spartan booty joke

[@hare4755]

@@shadepizza4217 the booty joke

[@kage1784]

God I fucking miss Reach’s style. Too bad 343 can’t learn from their mistakes 🤷‍♂️

[@yvesgingras1475]

This is kinda sad for 343 XD All the Reach one are just better in all aspect.

[@skits94]

You know what's missing? Details, you know what that tells me? They couldn't be bothered, they don't love what they do, they got it done as quickly and cost effective as possible.

[@TheTendermen]

What? You mean instead of using their new coating system to its full potential they made it sell different types of blue, say it ain’t so!

[@orangeoffline]

bro what crack are you smoking, they don't have the details because they are MP armor sets and thats what the designers that would look best in the infinite artystyle. 343 has always loved halo more than bungie ever did. Reach was made begrungingly

[@Studiosmediamilk]

The xbox 360 era was pure gold ❤

[@DrBilly619]

The specular highlights

[@dummyquiccc9695]

I really don’t miss the old foggy visors. The only Spartans I think it worked well on in Emile, George, and Chief.

[@haloguylevi]

They gave us the gears 5 noble team skins

[@n4ppyboyx]

What are your specs on your computer?

[@ObsidionshadowX]

Infinite looks more plastic and you can't really call it a Noble team kit if it doesn't even have the decals for it.. what's the point even selecting it as a kit if you could just recreate the whole thing since there's nothing that makes the kit special.

[@lil_nut420]

They need to fix their helmets because right now it feels like it's their head not something that goes on top of it

[@Maxywoo]

Infinite armour looks a little too polished in my opinion. It lacks that same detail.

[@jylecrennan]

343 likes they’re Spartans to look like people cosplaying Spartans

[@cesruhf2605]

343 only knows how to drag and drop colors now 😂😂

[@dg7347]

i feel they can't even do that right, most coatings just make the armor look less like futuristic space super soldier armor and more like some cheap cosplay.

[@velvetpine2220]

these all have very different lighting because of the limited maps infinite has

[@JackalArtsmith]

It's kind of sad that the GoW devs managed to make a more accurate Kat and Emile for Gears of War 5 than 343 did for a Reach themed pass for their own game lmao. It just kinda shows to me that 343 genuinely don't care.

[@bananawingz8624]

343's lighting and texture work has always been atrocious. Idk why they can never get it right

[@268_3]

Wonder how frustrated the design team gets when they're constantly told that their composition is lacking.

[@hydra09x42]

How in the fuck did they fail so hard! THEY PUT CARTER'S TAC PAD ON THE WRONG ARM!?

[@logan_jp3]

Ugh they did jorge especially dirty in infinite 💀

[@SinnedxTV]

Man i wish infinite took a more dark and mature/ tactical approach to there spartan art style,

[@ARC117Studios]

Reach definitely looks grittier and more battle-worn. The black wash over the armor is really what makes it standout, especially. I think if Infinite's armors had more "battle stains" as Reach, (or a simple black wash) they would look more military and worn. The graphics for Infinite are top knotch, but in certain lighting, the armor can look VERY plastic.

[@SuperScarab]

And l take it that you like your car like that as well right ?? 🤣🤣🤣

[@808fishman8]

@@SuperScarab damn dude youre salty as heck

[@hectormanuelalvaradoramire908]

Some details are miss.

[@Mr.Joe_Daddy]

I just knew people would find another reason to hate infinite.

[@binary1123]

Idk what it is, but Infinite's armors just don't feel like Halo, even classic armor pieces do not look good, it really fucking bothers me

[@valzicplayz3845]

Idc what anyone say I'll always prefer halo reach looks over any of 343 games

[@thebigsad9244]

As much as I love halo reach’s armor. It seems like you went out of your way to pick the worst lighting/environments/poses for infinites Spartans just to prove a point. I think the design team did a phenomenal job fitting reach’s armor into the limited infinite engine and you’re just looking for a reason to complain

[@Reformed-Mann]

Actually… I personally disagree. Even the Mark 7 armor cores have more dirt on them then the reach one’s in infinite. It feels off not having those scratches and dirt.

[@_Phen_]

@@Reformed-Mann It feels like he intentionally put the game on the worst graphics possible and the worst environment just to feel comfortable with his opinion. Infinite is objectively better than reach in terms of lighting and textures. He is hella biased here. Though i do think the spartans seem like toys and plasticy compared to Reach.

[@basedsneedclave175]

Can we go back to halo reach art style full please Not this weird half and half we have now, halo infinite is severely lacking in the gritty depart.

[@thechroniclegamer4285]

They look off because these are new models, with new textures, and also a new lighting engine

[@charles4500]

Reach >>>>>>>>>>>>> Infinite

[@jscottmedia7558]

i just realized the halo infinite spartans look like they all horseback ride for a living. why are they bow legged?

[@jordiruiz3793]

Dude, it's horrible how they massacred these armors

[@WardoveII]

they’re not close enough wrist have switched colours are different everything about infinite says not put together like how many of us have an armour kit that we can’t use the shader on (or whatever we got instead of just the classic halo colours)

[@randomketchuppacket9537]

Halo Infinite spartans look like megablox

[@TheLifeOfGhost]

Halo murió en reach, RIP.

[@MistahFox]

I think that 343 color picked the exact same colors of the noble team armors from reach to apply them to infinite, but it doesn't come across as the same colors because Infinite doesn't have the gritty camera filter reach had and also infinite's armor coatings lack any option to make the armor dirtier despite bring the perfect time to implement it.

[@liamm9637]

343 Halo games aren't far from roblox graphics.

[@elongatedalbatross9318]

343 try to get literally anything right challenge (impossible)

[@Beastjimbo]

It's mind boggling how much 343 copy and pasted from Reach !

[@shadepizza4217]

The models are actually much higher quality. They're remastered, rather than just copying over, to make them more appropriate for 9th gen rather than 7th. You can tell they're different, sicne certain items still haven't come over, which would be a no brainer if it was as simple as copying and pasting. Also, I'm fairly certain the commando helmet has slightly different proportions.

[@dg7347]

@@shadepizza4217 it's not a 1:1 copy for sure but it's pretty damn close. infinites elite armor is very much heavily using reach's design's, almost to the point they might as well have copied them.

[@Xenomnipotent]

Halo Infinite Dissapointment

[@crimsonking4151]

More proof reach was peak halo

[@Manoooolo]

At least H5 armors had details, these look flat and Infinite somehow looks really bland compared to Reach. Idk why but Bungie games have better lighting effects in comparasion

[@spiritgaming1442]

Huh? Wtf? Halo 5s armor was silly at best, most of the armors didn't even look functional especially the helmets. Halo though I do gotta agree on the flatness of the armor. A few layers of wear and tear on the armor might fix it, along with dialing down the more neon colors to a more pastel pallete.

[@Manoooolo]

@@spiritgaming1442 I'm not talking about the art style of the armors, just saying that the H5 (Reach) versions at least got the details right.

[@anhkusy2050]

Halo is not even real anymore. It's like living a fever dream, i want to wake up in a world where five and infinite dont exist pls this is not real

[@ShockCharger9]

They look so freaking plastic in Infinite

[@user-pp2sl5uo9o]

Why is halo infinite don't have a spartans butties???

[@shadepizza4217]

im always saying this

[@Blizzarus]

It's both impressive in regards to Bungie and depressing in regards to 343 to see how the Reach Spartans actually looked better, despite the superior hardware they have now. And not just stylistically, the character just straight up look more detailed, better lit, and all around more compelling

[@minipoods7175]

Not saying infinite is better but you picked a map that has the worst lighting that makes the armor look worse