Halo Studios - The more things change...

[@dragons_advocate]

"We have learned from our mistakes" ... Does them again. "We have learned from our mistakes" ... Does them again. "We have learned from our mistakes" ... Does them again...

[@existentialselkath1264]

To be fair most of the mistakes made in infinite are completely different to those in 4 and 5 😅

[@joshua5237]

That definitely describes 343 and Ubisoft

[@Nethseaar]

@@existentialselkath1264 Still had sprint, still lacked splitscreen (which, granted, was different than 4), still lacked pre- and post-game lobbies, still no playable Elites, still incomplete at launch (diff. from 4), still buggy, still had bad UI, still was slow to update and terrible about communicating with fans, still had scummy microtransactions (but just overpriced and selling you colors, as opposed to pay to win with RNG), still shiny new Forerunner aesthetic instead of the ancient mysterious Forerunner aesthetic, still insulting and ridiculing the fans, etc., etc., etc. . . . Much of it really is the same kinds of mistakes. And they'll repeat them all again.

[@bruhgod123]

343 also deletes anything that says something negative about them even if its constructive criticism.

[@existentialselkath1264]

@bruhgod123 nah, there's endless criticism under anything they post/do

[@Spartanunit5]

“Regret. Regret. Regret.” “Catchy. what does it mean?” “Dear humanity. We regret being alien bastards. We regret coming to Earth. And we regret that the Corp just blew up our raggedyvass fleet!” “Ooh-Rah!”

[@ToweringPepsiMan]

Dear Halo fans. We regret being bastards. We regret making unfinished games. And we regret that we fumbled a massive franchise.

[@galetempus1979]

I'm surprised that no one has really brought up that each game that came out after Reach has been some kind of "series reboot". How can I take any story they tell seriously if they've never been able to finish one.

[@EnderGhost119]

They've literally held the rights to halo longer than Bungie did and they STILL can't figure out what made Halo good back in the day or how to recreate it.

[@friendlyreaper9012]

They genuinely can't tell a complete satisfying story. I don't get it.

[@michaellane5381]

​@@friendlyreaper9012I would respect their commitment if they could just FINISH one story... It didn't need to be good. Seriously imagine if these writers had to sit with any writer of the last CENTURY and explain that they get to edit and tweak their story AFTER release and yet still cannot fix the fact their story has no END... I think 99% if not more would laugh them out of the interview... And that isn't even a paid interview I am suggesting in the hypothetical😅

[@TheTrueRandomGamer]

Just call them 344. Never let them forget.

[@dovahfett5919]

Thats right, because I'll... *removes sunglasses*... Never Forget

[@MisteRRYouTuby]

Or we could call them 343.1 as well…

[@Itz2Cat]

Just always call them 343i. I bet itll piss them off lol.

[@ReddAngry]

Yup

[@117johnpar]

Ill call them 404, good halo not found.

[@ozymandias1817]

Its pretty sad to see for so many reasons. The graphics certainly are there, yes. But Halo originally was not about that. It was about gameplay, story, mystery, a pinch of horror, immersion and absolutely about storytelling. Things you cannot just buy, but which you have to have certain skills to accomplish. Really good video.

[@Markm8]

Play 1-reach and 4-infn and it just feels so different not in a good way

[@ozymandias1817]

@@Markm8 Oh absolutely. Facing off the Covenant with clear toles within their hierarchy, with actually menacing ways to fight (I will never forget running into my first invisible Elite who wrecked the F out of me) and the Flood with this clear edge towards apocalyptic horror, compared to scifi enemies out of light and metal edges teleporting in like hordes ... its day and night.

[@mesogot]

The engine change will just mean that the studio won't have to spend as much time training new hires once they let go of the old ones after a couple of months, just like they've been doing.

[@ChiefCrewin]

Yeah the new tech demo sure looks pretty... As did the Halo infinite one...

[@Peak_Aussieman]

We're not going to buy it! No, we ain't goin' to buy it! We're not goin to buy it, anymore!

[@dronesclubhighjinks]

I love that song!

[@GloriousLastStand]

"... the more they stay the same. Boundaries shift, new players step in, but power always finds a place to rest its head."

[@dead_meme9920]

Fantastic video, it boggles my mind how people have seen a change in name, and some flashy AAA graphics (the bare minimum of a studio backed by microsoft) in an industry standard game engine, and they just forget how this company has wronged them time and time again for over a decade. You managed to capture 14 years of hypocrisy within a 9 minute video, thats impressive.

[@workingjellyfish]

Thank you - I share your sentiments.

[@joeowensby3997]

It really just has been Dust and Echos for the last 14 years... I do not believe they have changed... But im glad some of the community is resisting the script flip. Stay wary friends, do not get hyped and do not pre order. Wait until we see what they deliver to us.

[@michaelrosen4131]

Everything after reach is not cannon. Master chief is still floating on the forward unto dawn. Perfect ending

[@EggEnjoyer]

He wasn’t trapped in space. She had a homing beacon that’d eventually be found. Our boy makes it home eventually

[@sofaking1627]

I'm just glad there's at least a few people out here not taking the bait Halo Studios is just 343 in a trench coat. Unreal Halo is real pretty, but I've seen fans make that a few times. Until we get a good Halo game that isn't some cheap nostalgia grab, Halo Studios is just the latest in a decade of "We're sorry"

[@SRP379]

This video is both funny and heartbreaking...

[@workingjellyfish]

If we don’t laugh, we will cry…

[@Simte]

343 has problems at its core, MS involvement and contracting type seems not to have changed. Yeah, not taking the bait as well.

[@cabooseMK2]

If only the halo franchise can have some excellent writers like they did pre 2007... In the words of Keith David "Were it so easy".

[@ChrisPTenders]

Agghhhhh!!! Now at last I see... their latest con artist plot is revealed! Yeah, seems like there's a pretty clear pattern of promising to be better, somehow getting worse, then getting angry at fans for being upset we were lied to, then silence, then they come back acknowledging they actually failed but it's gonna be different this time because they've changed something weirdly specific which they swear is significant of deeper change, but then the process repeats itself and here we are. 13 years later.

[@Miguel-jq6ol]

The thing with this unreal reveal is I didn’t doubt they had a good art team, they nailed the classic artstyle with infinite, we all know unreal is pretty. Does any of that mean we’re gonna get a feature complete game where basic modes that have been around since ce aren’t held back for the sake of seasonal content. I dont see anyone commenting on how the focus with unreal is how fast they can produce content, lets be real they mean live service.

[@ethan8147]

100% gotta get the whales to play dress up with cat ears.

[@JEBEDIAH8D]

something told me they had to rebrand the studio because 343 had such a bad rep in the industry job market that they couldn't hire anybody, so rebranding was the only option

[@weareharbinger914]

I hate hearing people talk when they say like 'we don't want to consider how this new story fits into halo, we want halo to fit into this story" Or words to that effect. Thats the crap the Rings of Power writers said, and the Halo TV show, and a bunch of other stuff that was just ass. Hearing 'regret' though, my brain just launches into Johnson's little pep talk "Dear Humanity... we regret being alien bastards. We regret coming to Earth. And we most definitely regret that the Corps just blew up our raggedy-ass fleet!" "Oorah!"

[@Shenaldrac]

Wowsers! Surely changing their name and using a different game engine will fix the problems Halo has been having! After all, bad game design and writing is caused by using an inferior game engine, right? :DDD

[@existentialselkath1264]

No guarantee it'll be enough, but you can't ignore the change in leadership. Bonnie Ross and others have been in charge for all of 343s failures so far. Now they're gone. The studios issues could very well be a result of Microsoft themselves, in which case nothing will change, but let's not kid ourselves, it's basically a completely different team.

[@BusesAreFatCars]

​@@existentialselkath1264Take a look at the new leadership. Take a look at their priorities. This is not an improvement.

[@existentialselkath1264]

@@BusesAreFatCars that's ultimately debatable but there is a legitimate concern and I'm not trying to dismiss any of that. Simply pointing out that it's not just a new engine and name.

[@maverickay5807]

Wooo! New Jellyfish upload! ❤

[@ToweringPepsiMan]

Same shit, different name...

[@BonusCrook]

As a non haloer idk what this is about but ill still click for jelly man

[@ChiefCrewin]

So long story short, the studio that took the mantle of Halo after Bungie, 343 studios, fumbled the ball and all but destroyed the franchise. Now 343 is "closed" and "Halo Studios"(very original) is taking over, using the same schtick the last studio did as "remaking the brand".

[@BonusCrook]

@@ChiefCrewin ok 344

[@norsethenomad5978]

@@BonusCrookthats good

[@Surge127-h7l]

I will be somewhat cautiously optimistic but one of the lead game designers said that he hates guns and he is working on a FPS game now so my hopes aren’t high

[@Brandelwyn]

I saw this post and immediately lost all hope

[@andrewmeyer3599]

The Foundry announcement is just a longer version of Halo Infinite's announcement that had all the animals in those different biomes

[@JEBEDIAH8D]

the problem is what if they get halfway through and find unreal doesnt suit halo. my experience with unreal games is they all feel kind of cookie cutter like its hard to push innovation when you're not developing the technologies

[@KyleStay]

Changing the halo font didn't leave me with a good feeling

[@PhazonEnder]

It doesn't matter what they call themselves, they destroyed Halo.

[@jdstudios1912]

343 are terrible studio that can't organise themselves out of a paper bag.

[@existentialselkath1264]

The way I see it, if 343 is ever able to turn things around, this is how to do it. They've directly addressed most of the problems infinites development had. The problem is that almost all their games successfully address issues with the previous. There's no guarantee they won't screw something else up again. Infinite was a step in the right direction, content and post launch support was the biggest issue. I'm not writing off the studio but they still have to prove themselves.

[@pmsdgy1325]

Either you started playing Halo a short time ago or you have a humiliation fetish. No sensible person would let 343 shit down their throat for 14 years and still give them another chance.

[@YnossZaperator]

Don't make a Halo fan a promise if you know you can't keep it.

[@CoyoteKnight]

Kinda surprised no one has brought up the fact that they may end up replacing Jeane and Steve as the voices of MC and Cortana.

[@swolecapybara]

Man, I want to believe. I want to believe so badly that things will be different this time, but I don’t know anymore.

[@o.w.n.1327]

Names change but their loyalty stays the same

[@grayjedioutcast3550]

They can make it look as nice as they want, if their games aren't fun, lack content, and has a weak story.. it's nothing. That being said, let's see what happens. No hype.

[@pmsdgy1325]

A collection of lies, stolen thoughts and memories...

[@YuzoKoshiroSan]

The ride never ends.

[@MisteRRYouTuby]

Going into familiar, yet murky depths on this one…

[@MisteRRYouTuby]

Same stuff, different excuse…

[@MisteRRYouTuby]

Side note, EXCELLENT choice in using Shipmaster’s Oath of the Covenant speech to start.

[@S1337theoddoneout-ip9xc]

I'm so afraid 343 1.5 will desecrate Halo CE with the 25th anniversary remaster. I'm afraid they'll "reimagine Halo CE" for a modern audience, and all the diversity hires from that halo studio video were not really reassuring.

[@mattcurrie2002]

The potential for Halo was huge coming off Reach…343 squandered it and they can’t get it back

[@Stop_Motion_Hub]

absolute banger Jelly. Well done

[@CT--ox2iu]

Lovely to see this skipper!

[@spergnation1859]

I've moved on. It's time we all do.

[@Autobotmatt428]

All we can do is have faith and hope in these times. Lets just be glad that shows over and that it was not canon. Honestly story wise Halo is in a much better place going forward then say Gears or star wars. But we need to wait and see what happens.

[@ethan8147]

I am 100% all these assets are left over from their canceled Battle Royal. This bull about this being created from the “forge” is trash. These people are hacks and this is a message to the investors nothing more.

[@michaelwhite7378]

Tbf they have fire a lot of the decision makers & lead dev’s so they’re pretty much a new studio, ALMOST

[@Rebelnutt]

If they really wanted to work on a new engine why have it an open world with no sandbox mechanics.

[@bobybimberbod8500]

Pro: Halo studios is practically a new company because Bonnie Ross, Frank O'Connor, and Kiki Wolfkill are no longer in charge. Con: Halo studios is practically a new company because very few people have made a Halo game before. I think Halo studios will screw up Halo 7 because of "normal" (I hate that it's normal) AAA studio reasons, not because they're 343's successor.

[@EggEnjoyer]

Firing the leadership does not make it a new company. The job of a leader is to craft a team and foster certain ideas and cultures within a team. So that means many of the employees are going to have the same mindset of the old leadership. Also all the sub management under the old leadership were friends and co workers with the old leadership and they also likely have the same ideas. So really nothing has changed. If you wanted something new, you’d need to move entirely to a new team

[@nuage5985]

Unreal Engine games are known to be very big so be ready to spend extra $ on a separate SSD card to install the game (that's if you even choose to buy the game in the first place)

[@Arantirm]

I hope they succeed and finally deliver something good. You can't fuck up a remake of the first game that started the franchise. Unless they're making something else, like Halo 4, but OTHER Halo 4. Let's hope we get something good, whatever it will be. Let's hope it will finally be Halo. Not Halo like product...

[@grantapplegate7442]

They'd have to strip Frank O Conner and brand him with the mark of shame. Until that happens idc

[@CyberSlayer128]

343 industries really put on the fake mustache and went, "Hello, I am a totally new person and not the same studio that spent 12 years killing the Halo IP and gas lighting all of you!"

[@torq21]

I get the gist of this video buts hard to tell where/when each of the audio clips comes from. I'm sure that's part of the point. I also didn't bother to watch the most recent Hall Studios propaganda video so that doesn't help.

[@michaellane5381]

I'm willing to give them the new name... But if they bork the next game they lose it... And just like Infinite and H5 there will be no pre-order for a numbered Halo Title(I reserve reservations for possibly good spinoff ideas).

[@seanm.7584]

Yup

[@117johnpar]

Its just insane that people are still buying what they're selling. After a decade of saying one thing to the public and selling another thing.

[@robcanisto8635]

15 seconds and I'm here lol

[@FunkyDouch3000]

I was baffled when people were hyped for Infinite. I lost all faith in 343's ability to make a Halo game when I saw the opening cinematic for Halo 5. look closely at that thing and there are massive problems all around. After the severe letdown that was Halo 5 and the original MCC, I really do not understand why anyone had hope for Infinite. Time will tell whether 343 will successfully generate any hype for their new projects. maybe people have finally caught on that this studio is hopeless? one can hope.

[@theMatch111]

🌈MastransChief🌈

[@Itz2Cat]

Im so jealous of the people that just blindly believe 343i. I miss being excited. Rn, im playing infinite for the first time in like 11 months and im trying to lie to myself and get excited for halo. then i see that it costs £10 for a helmet and £60 to recreate my reach spartan. Its been 3 years and the game has a few new equipment and a dmr. There have been so many leaks of nearly fully finished guns and vehicles, and i bet the reason why they are not in the game is because the people that actually made them no longer work at the company. Same as the people who did the good things in infinite. Like a lot of the artstyle. This "new" management has had infinite for what? Like a year now? And the game still treats you like piggy bank.

[@JEBEDIAH8D]

i gotta say halo fans which i can no longer claim to be, are some of the most gullible fans in the gaming scene. this is clear damage control put in place by microsoft, and for some reason they think a remake will save the franchise, 343 started there halo era with a remake this is literally the same exact move that got microsoft into this mess

[@LotsaThingsNstuff]

Fatter Chief

[@codybland3140]

Pierre Hintze, is one who advocates for people who are like him. Rewatching one of the interviews with him he immediately announced his pronouns thus as the video went on made statements about how gender defined individuals can come together and make something great. And just with that Boone chick, as well as the other two female leads within Halo studios, just goes to show that these activists don't care about the gaming landscapes let alone the franchises they are handed. And like this video has shown we are getting the same treatment If not probably worse down the road that this franchise will continue to dig itself and unfortunately Microsoft does not care enough to provide the proper people to be placed into these positions to create something great just like how the older Bungie days were. They put their foot down they didn't want no real interference from Microsoft they want it to be left alone to do the work and let them craft something amazing and that's how we got such the amazing games they gave us. But with what we have now Microsoft is just as much involved and DEI focused as shown with this preview along with the head of Halo studios and all I got to say to that is that no matter how much they try to show me they ain't fooling me again and I will not be buying their products any longer

[@EggEnjoyer]

Honestly I’m happy. This game will flop and Halo will finally be out to rest. No longer can these clowns play with its corpse.

[@lostlandmarks8305]

Nothing. new. ever.

[@Techrenamon]

Thanks for wasting my time. You didn’t even talk or add anything, just developer audio over background images. I like your work, but this seems like such a low effort video.

[@funkydiscogod]

You didn't understand the video. "Presented without comment" just makes their own words hit harder.

[@theRok29]

someone missed the message of the video and purpose of using solely words from 343i

[@juanote8943]

What more could they add? The devs lay it out perfectly😅

[@Zam432F]

Call em 343