Halo Wars Movie Reaction (Continued)

[@mazhiwezakizo3513]

One thing, if you pay attention to the intro of Halo Wars 2, you can almost hear Serena break down in her last words to the Captain, sounds like she just barely held back a sob. I thought that was a really strong, powerful detail they added.

[@MrOrdosan]

Ripa 'Moramee (the Arbiter in halo wars) is basically an ex-convict who tried to hold a coup against his lord. he helped with a grunt rebellion and a jackle pirate and was known for victor and glory over honer (most Elites are pretty feudal japan esq levels of honor) and was known for being VERY brutal and ruthless...he's also pretty tall. standing close to a foot taller than most others

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

So we were right to dislike him 😒

[@MrOrdosan]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames ya i spose. I like him specifically because he's basically on the line of unhinged psycopath but yes he is very much not a good person.

[@darnell7871]

Another fact: His nickname is Shirley

[@kingseb2252]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames yeah also ripa moremee is 8'1 feet tall and also even the grunts are tall at 5'5 feet and are really strong the games make people think they are weak because the character is master chief and he's around 7' so they look small

[@Myjacob99]

his honor is what got him killed since humans dont fight fair

[@JasonRogue]

I mean, the drop in quality and Serina still being active should have given you the idea that maybe these are backwards. Then I'm none the wiser. But my man Forge able to tackle an Arbiter and giving him the one two for the win, and being honored by a Spartan, what a way to go.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

At that point we had already watched half the movie and all of Halo Wars 2 😂 It would’ve been nice to see the tittle screen for Halo Wars 2 in the first video like they showed for Halo Wars in this one. Then we could’ve stopped it earlier. When we edit the videos we watch we do it blind. Looking at the halfway point of the video for a dip in audio in premiere pro (usually a black screen) then cut the video there. Sometimes looking a few seconds before or after the cut. For this one I saw two big dudes walking off a ship and was like, that looks ominous, a good place to cut 🤗

[@JasonRogue]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames it was a great place to cut I'll give you that.

[@Thorax2552]

I loved Serina's dry humor. But also take into account a lot of her dialogue is during the gameplay. Also fun fact, Forge's daughter (now an adult) became a scavenger to find out what happened to her father. Her journey has her run into 343 Guily Spark, (the floaty trouble maker from the first halo games) and he actually has a pretty satisfying redemption arc

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Is his daughters story told in game or is that something from the books 😀

[@Thorax2552]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames That would be books only. You guys should do a react to the novels where we awkwardly watch you read them XD

[@thunderspear2251]

Cortana is a little bit sassy, whereas Serina is more snarky. She really does care, but she has a very aloof demeanor. She usually only makes the snarky remarks when there's no need for urgent communication, and I feel like it's meant to be a tension-reliever for Cutter. Maybe that help keeps him from overtaxing himself during intense situations. And yes, this new/chronologically older Arbiter is Ripa Moram'ee, who (if I'm not mistaken) was basically a serial killer turned fanatical puppet by the prophets. Big, even by Elite standards, and very aggressive. Our Arbiter, Thel Vadam'ee, is a lot more reasonable. And rest in peace to Forge. Most ODSTs couldn't tango with Ripa, but here's normal marine Forge squarin' up like he owns the place. Johnson will forever be the king of charisma, but I think even he couldn't take Forge if the two came to blows. And since I mention it in almost every Halo comment I make to you guys, I 100% recommend checking out "Halo: Legends". They're 8 animated shorts made by different animation companies (Toei is one of them, if I'm not mistaken), and they tell little side stories about the Halo universe. One covers an important part in the history of the Arbiters, one shows a bit of the rivalry between Spartans and ODSTs, and another is 3d animated and PACKED with action. (Here's hoping my sales pitch worked) Love the content, keep up the great work you two!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Halo Legends is something we plan to cover eventually. Some of it may have to be on Patreon due to copyright so it would be watch along but we do want to cover that one 🙂

[@ghaelblackmont273]

Johnson could, expanded lore exists and he's a Spartan 1 - also if you go by most recent Expanded Universe Lore, he was present with the Spartans within the fist five years of the Human-Covenant War to help them do the failed attempts that Humanity had at trying to board Covenant ships and take them over.

[@blackdog6969]

I know I'm 2 years late to comment but Forge was the son of an Orion (Spartan 1, like SGT Johnson) participant.

[@thunderspear2251]

@@blackdog6969 Did not know that. That's freakin' cool.

[@jesussantos7380]

The games have not explained it yet, but the reason why Cortana is so friendly with Master Chief and other people in general compared to other AIs like Serina is that she was modeled off a human person. Her personality is basically a copy of Dr. Halsey, a character prominent in Halo Reach, who spearheaded the Spartan Program. It explains why Serina is so blunt and unemotional whereas Cortana displays genuine emotion even if she is an AI.

[@luisalmanza119]

You're not wrong in that Cortana showed a preference from the beginning towards the Chief due to her foundation being Halsey, but Serina isn't exactly emotionless. She shows quite a bit of emotion during her monologue in Halo Wars 2. It is quite obvious that Cutter cared for her too.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎👍🙂 Thanks for helping explain that

[@HeyImJerry]

Cool thing about the Spartans on the Spirit of Fire, They are essentially the B team. They failed their first round of Augmentations and had to go through their surgery a second time for it to take. While just as trained and strong as the rest they are essentially a different class (LIke school not profession) Double cool thing, they are using Mark 4 armor. Thicker plates heavier gear and most notable, No shields whatsoever. They had shields in game for balancing but otherwise they in lore rely on not getting hit in the first place

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for the fun facts about the Spartans and their armor in this 😀

[@grantnorris1714]

this is technically untrue, while your right that the mark IV armor didn't have shields at first, there WAS prototypical shielding available to the armor as of 2531 and red team was in fact equipped with these shield prototypes so even in lore they had shields.

[@YhokoCaeda]

Also they were not the B team. They were exceptional Spartans. Most died during augmentation kind of like your body rejecting organ donation. It had nothing to do with their skills or abilities. They just didn't get messed up bad when it failed on them and were able to successfully augmented later they were just delayed being deployed. Jerome was one of the four emerging leaders in the spartan IIs along with John 117(master chief) fred 104 and kurt 051

[@ghaelblackmont273]

@@YhokoCaeda Not necessarily true. Outside of Jerome, most of Red Team was effectively B-Team status despite being effective Spartan IIs. They failed to stack up to Linda, James, Kelly, Fred, Joshua, Chief, Sam, and Kurt.

[@Yung_Slush]

I’m so glad that you guys have gotten into my favorite video game franchise, I love seeing you guys learn everything that I did my first play through and watching the cutscenes! Hope you continue to love learning all about Halo as much as I did and still do!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We will continue to explore this franchise for sure 😀

[@yourdailydoseofomid3026]

Both of the Forge Vs Arbiter cutscenes are some of my favourite cutscenes, even though he kinda got his ass handed to him in the first one that cloaking effect is super dope, also that scene where Red Team are killing all the elites to defend the reactor, Perfect.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

But him getting his ass kicked in the first fight made the payoff in the second fight so much sweeter 😁

[@koreancowboy42]

Tho note that alot of those elites weren't armed with plasma weapons but just spears for some reasons

[@kingseb2252]

@@koreancowboy42 they were honour guards they don't carry fire arms even in halo 2 in the cutscenes you see they have only huge staffs

[@bloodgroundgaming7871]

I personally prefer Halo Wars 1 over 2, Ensemble Studios really put their love into this game and they didn't deserve the fate Microsoft handed to them.

[@SilverViper1000]

Halo wars 1 had the story in focus. Halo wars 2 was style over substance. It didn't have a real Story. It introduced the banished and atriox but nothing really happened. Atriox were just standing around in the background the whole game. Atriox never did anything but kicking Spartan asses once.

[@Razgriz_01]

@@SilverViper1000 Yeah, it was basically an introductory to the Banished and was hoping more stories involving the Spirit of Fire and their isolated war against the Banished on the Ark. Shame we didn't get anymore campaign DLCs or some books about it.

[@Alyrael]

As far as I'm aware, the reason Cortana has more complex thoughts and emotions is because she's a more complicated AI than the others, as she came from Forerunner technology, and her AI is patterned after Dr. Halsey's brain, whereas other AIs are completely artificial. Cortana is practically one-of-a-kind.

[@MrOrdosan]

the other AI's were made from other peeps/based on people. Cortana's unique thing was the fact she was based on a LIVING person. Last I checked...its been awhile since I delved on the issue

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for letting us know that 🙂

[@Determ1nat1on]

Serina like any other Smart AI is also formed by a dead human's brain. The only difference between Cortana & the other Smart AIs is that Cortana was made out of a living person's brain (Halsey).

[@sandercohen5543]

Out of all the cutscenes of the halo saga, the ones from halo wars 1 are the ones I hold in the highest regard. Part of this is of course because halo wars 1 was the first RTS (real-time strategy) game that I ever played. Despite that nostalgia-infused bias, however, I think I can speak for most of us halo fans when I say that these cutscenes were a true highlight of the campaign. First off, this game was developed by a completely different studio - that being ensemble studios - and they really went to town with the visuals. This was released on the xbox 360 in the middle of its lifespan and pretty much set the bar for pre-rendered cutscenes. It might look a bit dated now, especially regarding the faces, but compared to the competitors of the time, there is just no contest. I do want to point out that ensemble studios did an amazing job capturing the aesthetics and atmosphere of old bungie-era halo, within an extended universe where some liberties are taken with the creative property. As far as world-building, these cutscenes do all you could ask for and more, which is surprisingly important if you want to tell a story within an RTS game, since the actual gameplay is so disconnected from any individuality. Most of the story of the campaign during actual gameplay is told through voice lines that have no visual representation besides the static image of the character who is currently talking. Either that, or the medium of visual storytelling through the various environments that the game's campaign is set in. *It also does a great job with the music, creating an original score that - once again - feels right at home in the halo universe without being overly derivative.* It captures the eerie tone of the original... *idea* - of halo in a few sequences, exploring ancient technologies left behind by a super advanced alien civilization. This element in particular, is what I think 343 industries - the current developer of halo - are unable to capture, along with that spark that the original star wars movies embody. That spark of unbridled optimism in the face of impossible odds, all the while not taking itself too seriously, taking the time to sprinkle in an odd joke or three. These little "breaks" from the rather depressing implications of the story help with some much-needed grounding, and are in my *humble opinion* the linchpin of what make the original star wars trilogy and - coincidentally - the original halo trilogy, into the timeless classics that they are. Just like with any other classic story, beloved by fans the world over, halo wars was not well received by the existing fanbase upon release. Yet despite this, it has stood the test of time and was actually quite revolutionary when it comes to actual gameplay mechanics, since before halo wars there weren't really any good RTS games on consoles. They felt more like ports from PC, which makes sense because many RTS games - the likes of "starcraft" - require you to utilize your entire keyboard to micromanage your army accurately and effortlessly. Having only access to a controller means you need to make some compromises here and there to make the game playable at all on consoles. Halo wars did this, and in doing so put RTS games on the map for consoles. Now, it certainly wasn't perfect, but it was a good middle ground between streamlining and overcomplicating the systems in place, and its something that people often seem to overlook when reminiscing about this IP. - I ended up splitting the comment into 2 because it was too long for youtube apparently XD

[@sandercohen5543]

Finally, I would like to commend ensemble studios once again, for just having an intimate understanding of what makes the genre of science-fiction SO appealing for many. Unlike fantasy, science-fiction *draws inspiration* from science, rather than just making up stuff on the spot. This approach innately gives depth to your world, as a lot of it is based in actual science. You don't need to be told that closely orbiting a star is going to be a perilous maneuver at the end of the halo wars cutscene, because it has been made obvious by the pre-defined rules established by science in the real world. Find a good analogy for this scene in a fantasy novel, and you can bet your sweet *behind* that the protagonist is going to make it out just fine, because they are "the chosen one" (and "magic", love, or even just the sheer will to do "x" is likely involved...) This lowers the stakes regardless of the canonical implications, because your rules can just be broken by your protagonist for the sake of the plot. Incidentally, this is exactly the sort of thing that separates the likes of "star wars", from "halo": Star wars is more like science-fantasy, having the literal "chosen ones" possess "magic" in the form of "the force" . The way a LOT of scientifically based concepts commonly used as plot devices of other works in the genre are seemingly glossed over in favor of a more shallow interpretation of the same thing, compared to something like "star trek". Thus, on some level, you cannot get invested in certain narrative devices of the story, because they do not conform to any pre-defined rules and are instead the sole product of the writer's imagination. Its like watching a game of sports for the first time, without knowing the rules... Except that this analogy is insufficient because of the aforementioned tendency to *break* any semblance of those very rules that have been established previously in the given story - imagine being invested in a game of soccer, only for someone to suddenly pull the rug out from under you and dictate the rules of the game, making it so that scoring a "goal" has nothing to do with physically displacing the ball inside the actual *goal* ?! There would be RIOTS! Needless to say, there are pro's and con's to fiction vs science-fiction, from a writers point of view. Meanwhile, halo has significantly more "rules" that are inspired by real-world science and that is why it can be equally as engaging to learn about the intricacies of epidemiology and how it affects the halo universe, as it is to experience a traditional "love story" in a Disney movie. *It actually has tangible repercussions to understanding these concepts on a basic level in the context of a work of science-fiction storytelling, worth its salt.* Now, I'm sure more than a few people who make it this far down this wall of text are going to find this part about "halo vs star wars" (which is really just an attempt at an objective comparison from someone who does not discriminate against either fanbase, and holds both IP's in equally high regards, though in different - *and indifferent* - ways). Coming back to the original example in the first paragraph, of the 2nd segment of this comment; While the stakes are high in this climax of the halo wars 1 story, and the way the "spirit of fire" and the majority of her crew makes it out alive and well through some heavy use of plot armor, the concept at the core of this whole part of the plot is actually very scientifically feasible: They are orbiting the star so close because the deeper inside the gravity "well" of an astronomical object you are, the easier it becomes to speed up. This is due to a well-known phenomenon in orbital mechanics dubbed the "Oberth effect". Well-known, because it is famously confusing and seemingly contradictory when trying to grasp its implications outside of mathematical terms (so go to town on the wikipedia article on it - I promise you won't regret it). Couple that with the "gravity assist" maneuver that they are simultaneously executing - which is also a very real (and commonly utilized) method of increasing your spacecraft's momentum by "stealing" it from another object, preferably one that is orders of magnitude more massive. Gravity assists are best described simply as the exchange of kinetic energy between two objects. So its like what voyager 1 & 2 did in the 1970's, slinging by the gas giants of our solar system and kicking away from them as they pass them, slightly nudging the planets in the opposite direction as they do, just like you might push against the floor of a pool with your feet, as you launch yourself forward. Now, I'm sure some people would think this scene is complete bogus concerning the implications of "flying" so close to a star... However; while the surface of the sun - and its immediate vicinity - is hot, its actually not THAT hot. In fact, the "corona" of the sun is actually significantly hotter than it is closer to or at the "surface", due to the solar wind, among other things (the inner workings of which are still largely up for debate in the scientific community). For reference, in the real world, the distance at the time of *closest approach* of the "solar orbiter spacecraft" (sent by the ESA (European space agency) to conduct research upon our hot-tempered mother), was that of a mere 42 million kilometers from the "barycenter" of the sun (so 41.3 million kilometers from the surface of the sun, factoring in the diameter, I guess). This having been accomplished without any particularly high-tech - "exotic" - method of cooling (rather just clever engineering), and being well within the zone which is several times *hotter* than the actual surface of the sun, I find this particular gripe to be a non-issue, under closer scrutiny. Granted, this is mostly thanks to the "vacuum" around stars being sufficiently devoid of matter, such that the propagation of thermal radiation is minimal. The perceptive reader may also note that by extension, according to this logic, losing your acquired "heat" is quite difficult in a vacuum, which is a very real issue engineers have to contend with when designing any sort of spacecraft. Nevertheless, in the context of the halo universe, its doesn't break the internal logic of this fictional universe that the "energy shields" these spaceships possess, can act as some kind of insulator. I guess science-fiction writers are all defense attorneys, in a way; it's all about plausible deniability - the sustaining of one's disbelief.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

I like the line that all sci fi writers are defense attorneys 🙂 Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts on this game 😀

[@ianshearer6979]

the Halo Wars sound score is one of my all time favorites.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

🤩😎🤟

[@theretroaiden2107]

On 13:36 I love how she said master chief ... but we certainly find out it wasn't so ... I do love this scenario

[@randomcourier]

So many unfortunate things had to happen for master chief to happen, the sacrifice of forge witch would prevent the covenant from decimating humanity and also the sacrifice of Noble team to get the bird that was carrying master chief off of Reach.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂🤗😊

[@johnyeon]

The story about the two brutes was the story mission dlc and most of the story was told in gameplay-dialogue, so it will be very difficult to know the story id you just watched the cutscene alone

[@Aparthonox]

Fun fact about this halo wars. It was not made by bungie and was instead made by a separate studio that wanted to make their own game not halo at all. However their corporate at the time either Microsoft or other forced them to do a halo game. This is why this game was alot more detached from the usual halo universe with separate assets, characters, and even unique vehicle assets that were supposed to be for the other game they wanted to make. This brought along them being lost with all hands(partial speculation). Sadly the studio that made the game was later sued and broken apart due to copyright. Note:This studio also worked their hardest to make it as true to the halo universe as possible and had hoped it would impress bungie.

[@MrMeddyman]

It's worked so well that now the Banished are being used to push the series forward in Halo: Infinite rather than the horrible plot of Guardians and to a lesser degree Halo 4

[@Aparthonox]

@@MrMeddyman indeed its awsome and its actually made me exited to think of the possibility of chief and the spirit of fire meeting up

[@mxviii]

@@MrMeddyman Halo Wars 2 was made by 343, So the Banished were always the plan. Halo Wars 1 was made by ensemble studios, the makers of Age of Empires,and they were shuttered shortly after Halo Wars released

[@ghaelblackmont273]

Note: Bungie exists as a bunch of whining crybabies when it comes to Expanded Universe, and other studios tied to them with Games. They were and still are extremely pissed at Microsoft regarding Halo. Halo Reach serves as a testament of them taking all the Expanded Universe lore and shitting on it out their dislike of Microsoft forcing them to have it. Halo Wars was just them yet again not appreciating other's people's love, and willingness to work in their specific sandbox. This is why even despite Halo Wars performing well, maintaining a fairly active MP community for a time, Bungie really didn't do much to work with the guys, or lore developed. However, Microsoft's people responsible for expanded universe lore did.

[@kevinprzy4539]

The Arbiter in this is named Ripa ‘Moramee he was slightly bigger than Thel ‘Vadam (the arbiter you know and love) he was 7’9” while Ripa is 8’1”

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

They need to start a basketball team 🙂

[@grandadmiralyamato9694]

I'm still amazed, even though it was a Gravity assist the Fact that a 2.5 km Ship like the spirit of fire was able to get to speed like a Glorified fighter is astounding and keep in mind the Pheonix class Colony/support Carrier was the Largest Ship class in the UNSC Navy until the Infinity finished Construction shows my awe you know!

[@tranterminus]

Halo is amazing. period, no questions asked! Also congrats 140K!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks! 🥳🥳🍾🥂

[@kevinraposo348]

I mean let the people who made these games do an animated Halo series it would be sick and cheaper. These are great cutscenes.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

True. Did you see Halo Legends? Heard that was a good animated movie 🙂😀

[@Cars_HW2]

I grew up with the OG Halo Wars and played it relentlessly as I wasn't allowed to play the other Halo games because of the M rating. I pretty much know all the lines of dialogue in the cutscenes by heart. Crazy to think back then I thought there was almost no chance for a sequel, but nowadays I'm one of the top 1v1 players in HW2, which is a great game regardless of the devs abandoning it without balancing it very well at the top level. Now I'm in the same boat I was all those years ago, thinking a sequel is most likely never happening. But that's why I always appreciate it so much to see these games get the attention they deserve every now and then-- so thank you guys!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Congrats on being one of the top players! 😀🥳🥳🍾🥂 Feels like once you make a sequel you gotta finish it with the trilogy

[@No0bD3sTroYer]

The idea behind halo wars was so beautiful, when I was a kid the original trailer lit my head up like an rgb christmas tree on fire. I wish the execution was more in line with better strategy games.

[@sasoriza4433]

That made me willing to watch a Halo reach story reaction !

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We will most likely play that one on the channel 🙂

[@sasoriza4433]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames i'll gladly watching it then :D

[@MoltenUprisingMK]

Thought you would break it up into two parts- one for HW2 and one for HW1. Also, the Arbiter you saw in this was Ripa 'Moramee, an Elite with a criminal past and "attitude problems". He was made Arbiter simply because he was a good attack dog.

[@acrab6527]

Every Arbiter has attitude problems. It's a punishment not a promotion. They send you on suicide mission after suicide mission because it's a delayed death sentence.

[@MoltenUprisingMK]

@@acrab6527 I know that, but Ripa- that boy had it the worst.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Had we known the video we watched was two parts, we would’ve chosen another video cuz we just wanted to watch Halo 1 haha. But it was a longer video so we split it up into two parts. But where we edit it is kind of blind, so we don’t spoil it for ourselves 🤗

[@ryank5424]

I always thought that including the Pillar of Autumn as one of the ships defending arcadia was a nice touch

[@TakenPsion]

And here we see why we don’t open high charity with a banished scarab

[@UnknownGamer-jd9mf]

The cut scene at 24:45 is my favorite in the whole game

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎🤟

[@patrickhuot001]

@1:30 When it comes to creatures like the Flood parasite, NEVER assume there’s just one. That’s the most important rule in any creepy sci-fi setting with hard-to-see small, disgusting, and/or dangerous creatures (case in point, Alien). If you see one, there’s dozens, hundreds, or even thousands you’re not seeing.

[@Vivi-te5qj]

I loved Halo Wars 1 my buddy and I are undefeated in 2v2 multiplayer. We played this so much. I would play Brute Chief or Arbiter. Idk why or how but Captain Cutter to us became Captain Crunch. I would follow that man anywhere.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Been awhile since so had a bowl of Captain Crunch. Was never my go to cereal as a kid but every once in awhile my mom would randomly pick it up 😋

[@spinningredchair8092]

Fun Fact, based on some calculations done by some dedicated gamers, they concluded that if just 100 Infection Forms (those tiny octopus looking things) managed to arrive on modern day Earth (2017) all life on Earth minus underneath our oceans would be wiped out in just under 18 hours. It takes just 3-4 seconds to turn a human host into a Flood Form after being infected by an Infection Form. As part of the Flood life cycle, once a suitably large enough populace has been devoured by the Flood, it forms something called a Flood Hive. Inside that Hive, a Flood Gravemind forms, which is basically an omnipotent massive Flood organism with complete control over all other flood forms in its vicinity (usually the local Galaxy). Once there is no life left in the Galaxy, the Flood will leave the galaxy, and enter a new one with the intention of starting the process over again. One of the other things the Flood have going for it that makes it unstoppable is called the Logic Plague, which is not a physical form of the Flood, nor is it biological in nature. Instead, it is a philosophical virus, and effects Artificial Intelligences. Basically, the Flood can manipulate Artificial Intelligences into acting a certain way, and because of this, AI that are affected by this Plague are often thought to be suffering from Rampancy, which is the final stage of an AI's life cycle where after a period of time (around 7 years for Human AI) the AI's cognitive processors divide exponentially because of interconnected memory mapping. In the process of trying to create more memory for itself, by dividing existing memory, the AI literally thinks itself to death. The effects of rampancy include the AI longing for Godlike power, and contempt for their inferior makers. The effects of the Logic Plague are similar, and in fact its heavily implied that Cortana was affected by the Logic Plague and NOT going Rampant. THIS is the reason the Forerunners created the Halo rings. To wipe out galaxies in an effort to starve the Flood of suitable hosts. The Rings were not made to destroy the Flood, but rather their food sources.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😳 when you put it in that perspective it makes sense why the flood are so feared

[@ghaelblackmont273]

The Gravemind and Keymind require heavy amounts of bodies, and even with most of the Covenant present from multiple ships and more then a few humans, they only barely reached a Proto-Mind Stage in Halo 1 which was weak enough Keyes resisted it. Not to mention that you had good ole Jenkins who resisted it and allowed for the Covenant Truth and Reconciliation to be blown up by the Human Survivors before Major Silvia could continue his idiocy and doom humanity by slipspace jumping back to Earth with infection and combat forms aboard.

[@supremercommonder]

That was the crash site of high charity if your remember halo 2 master chief fights though the high charity while it gets infected and in halo 3 he goes back to it.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎👍🙂

[@alfiefletcher7513]

I'm new to your channel and I absolutely bloody love your reactions! I will definitely stay subscribed to you! I hope Sergeant Forge gets his own film one day! He is a such a badass character he deserves representation on the big screen! :)

[@TinyTank4Live]

I like how Jeromes (Spartan Team Red leader) voice is rather high in Halo Wars 1 compared to Halo Wars 2 since he IS very young at that time. (Master Chief is Spartan Team blue leader)

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Nice attention to detail there 🙂

[@richardkim3652]

Now for Halo Wars 2 and Halo Master Chief of becoming a Spartan 2 :).

[@blainesjustchillin3509]

Lol why does Ken have all the energy but Bethany seems like she wants to fall asleep? (OG Ken For the win)

[@pezdispencer113]

There's a bettter cut of this 'movie' that has a little bit of gameplay footage added in to add some extra context to what happens during the missions, which makes it much less jarring. Also that wasn't Master Chief. Those were the Spartans of Red Team.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yeah, it was a shame we had this cut. So many view on it and it was recent and by a reputable channel. But in the end, it did us wrong 😢

[@Calvin-r93]

The flood is literally Halo's zerg.

[@ja1e12]

every green spartan is now master chief

[@TheChickenlittle11]

I would suggest if you haven’t already to watch the Halo 2 cutscenes from the remastered version of the game. It’s got to be my favorite of the Halo “movies”

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We had already watched it. Unfortunately the video we watch said Halo Wars movie and we assumed it was Halo Wars 1 but it had both in it, and in reverse order 😢

[@TheChickenlittle11]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames I’m not talking about Halo Wars 2 I’m talking about Halo 2 with Master Chief. Also I downloaded your two Halo Wars reactions and edited them together so that it’s your reaction to Halo Wars 1 and then Halo Wars 2. I took out your intros including introducing what video and the outro’s of what you guys thought of the “movie” I only kept in the reactions themselves.

[@sujeeewanihapuarachchi8821]

Yo this is the earliest I've been to a video of yours

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Welcome to the early gang 😀🥳🍾🥂

[@hellowhat890]

12:52 Notice that the Pillar of Autumn was here? ;) It would eventually be repaired and sent to Reach. Captain Keyes would take command and of course, it's the ship that carried Cortana and Master Chief to where they discovered the first Halo ring in the first game.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎👍😀

[@redfalconsmdx]

Jerome, Douglas, Alice. The three Spartans name. Also there was another Spartan team. Omega Team during HW1 but welp. They put up a good fight plainly said. As for Red Team (the three of em) they were actually Spartan II "dropouts" sorta. Basically their initial augmentation failed but UNSC put them through other sets of procedures and now they're back in action On that note about AIs. You could say Serina is like old and mature and got this in the bag. Her sas definitely could've been the brain donor that's for sure. As for Isabel well... Let's just say she's like young and inexperience kinda, so more emotional which isn't bad either.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks for the note in the difference in the AIs 🙂

[@davidhernando353]

I like Halo Wars. I thought it was a good game and its second part was also good, I hope they make a third part. I guess the Arbitrator likes to drag people by the neck or head since he does it in half the scenes he's in. Atrix's first apparition is quite spectacular, defeating three Spartans without difficulty. Good way to show that he is one of the most dangerous beings in the galaxy and when they tell his origin it is only emphasized more. Ellen had a huge redesign from game to game, unrecognizable to me at least, she looks totally different from game to game. Maybe it's just me, but I only realized she was the same character because of the subtitles.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Haha, good call on the neck dragging 😂

[@koreancowboy42]

I would say the arbiter in halo wars 1 was just a large cocky elite who thought he was above so he wasn't very smart

[@chicitizen]

The Spartans were only 19-20 years old during this game.

[@Anakinvoorhees]

Terrifyingly fun fact: When Humans captured some flood who had gained higher intelligence either by creating a Gravemind or special infection( just stick with me here) the Humans asked the flood what infection truly meant. This was during the War between Humans, Flood, and the Forerunners. The Flood then explained it to them and all the humans who heard committed suicide because they knew death was better than what was coming

[@jamesdeadlocked6664]

The Banished r awesome. We need to see more of them especially the 2 brothers Pavium and Voridus. Atriox cares about his Brothers, I look forward to seeing him more.

[@BxRob927]

I believe one of the brothers are in one of the newer books, Shadows of Reach

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎🤟

[@ImperialKnight770]

I get a very strong feeling that Pavium and Voridus are Atriox's sons. Why else would he just give them a lecture instead of killing them for disobeying orders?

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Hadn’t thought about that. 😯 But that makes sense now that you mention the why of it 🤔🙂

[@rajvirnanda3775]

O....m.....g.....God tier fighter

[@sirgideonofnir6840]

Forge used up his plot armor in the fight with the Arbiter, that's why he didn't make it out

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😢

[@blackbullshark5064]

13:36 "Master Chief" she says. Not all Spartans are the Master Chief.

[@dyno4167]

a little off topic but i think you guys should totally react to Phantasy Star Online 2 openings 1-6 aswell as opening 7!!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Added to our request list 🙂

[@VikendiFront]

The Flood in the Cutscene is a Terrifier

[@dareiousmiller8179]

You guys should do the same thing for the Gears of wars game, there's a youtuber called the "Gamers little playground where he does movies out of the game cutscenes, do the Gears of war ultimate edition first since it's basically a remastered of the first one but with very much improved and up to date graphics

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

A very trusted source for gaming cutscenes. Every time we stray from that channel we end up with not so great results like with this one 😂🤗

[@elprofetadelaverdad6573]

Now HALO LEGENDS!

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We will be checking that out 🙂

[@seansena6]

Sgt. J. forge. Everyone thought he was master chief lol.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂🤗

[@supremercommonder]

You need to check out halo 3-5 and infinity btw sgt forge daughter comes looking for him in the Novels and finds guilty spark drifting in space after the events of halo 3

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yes Halo Wars 1 was the initial plan then Halo Wars 2 ended up happening. But we do plan on playing the other Halo games (except 5 will be just reacting to since it’s not couch co-op) 🤗

[@UnknownGamer-jd9mf]

I know it's something completely different but I think you guys should check out the 501st Journal from Star Wars classic battlefront 2 it's amazing it's definitely hard hitting seeing what the clones go through

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

This is something we will want to check out as we are just now watching Clone Wars 🙂

[@josephg.1.130]

​@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames i second this.

[@Zeinyk]

Should definitely watch red vs blue

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

By Roosterteeth right? 🤔🙂

[@Zeinyk]

@@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames YES, DEFINITELY!!!

[@rexdex7112]

React to Manhunt 1 and 2 executions, I know you will like it lol

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

On our request list 😇

[@josephstockton2743]

The flood evolve

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯😨

[@holymosey2556]

By the way I'm pretty sure Sgt. Forge is voiced by Nolan North... Aka Nathan Drake 👌

[@youngprince7820]

This is good movie based off the game.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎🤟

[@sirgideonofnir6840]

Also forgot that the arbiter in this game was built like a shit brick house.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😂

[@dpoolybb1677]

You should react to halo flood lore but it would be better if you completed the halo trilogy first. It shows how serious and scary of a threat the "floof" was.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We can only imagine how truly terrifying the floof are 😱

[@daysand123]

Well silver lining theres at least a sort of interesting continuity in watching the sequel first. Its like watching the leadup.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yeah it wasn’t too confusing at least as only the beginning of Halo Wars 2 seemed to tie into Halo Wars 1

[@ShamarF]

On fight night Friday you guys should react to dead fantasy by Monty Oum .. it’s awesome 🔥

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We have to cover both games a little more. We haven’t even gotten around to any Dead or Alive yet 😅

[@Anakinvoorhees]

13:34 That isn’t Master Chief That might be Spartan Commander Jerome leader of Spartan Red Team as him and Red team where present at this battle

[@TwoSevenX]

Atriox is indeed a badass. Make sure when you guys finally get to Halo Infinite that you watch a Legendary Ending playthrough, there's a tradition of hiding a special video on legendary. You guys are prolly used to Cortana, whom has literal engrams based on Dr. Catherine Halsey. Serina is one of the few absolutely pure AIs, and it's very very likely she would survived a lot longer than seven years before going rampant. If you listen to her last words, you can tell how she actually feels. Every AI in the halo universe is unique and all have different personalities, this is a deliberate copying of elements of the RingWorld scifi series, as are... well ring worlds. Halo Wars is one of those super rare spin off that keeps up with or even exceeds the original. Halo's direction in recent sequels was to absolutely lean into the "ultra ultimate final super amazing chosen one for all the galaxy and universe and forever" for John-117, and it wasn't particularly well received amongst the "future grognard" crowd of Halo's fanbase, most of whom preferred the heavy military industrial themes present in the first novels and games, even those these have their own "bullet porn" issues as well. Halo Infinite was a mix of both approaches, and while the SP campaign was generally well received, the MP experience has been the usual "this game is a live service" mess, complete with M$ acknowledging MP will probably take literal years to fix, and it remains to be seen if the fanbase will hang around that long. Halo Wars was also one of the best received new RTS game in years, especially for consoles.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Bummer they botched the multiplayer for Halo Infinite. We are always more interested in single player but recognize the need for a strong multiplayer aspect in order for a game to stay relevant and succeed

[@extrailzz]

U should react the apex best movement player compilation its cool

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Can add it to our Apex request list 🙂

[@joshtrantham9016]

Ripa Moramee is an ass even before he became the Arbiter he tried to perform a coup d'etat on his clan and failed and if I remember correctly that's what I think earned him the title arbiter because he failed at his task of overthrowing his clan now I may be wrong it's been awhile

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Once a wiener always a wiener 😒

[@knightfall5125]

React to Scorn trailers and gameplay, the game is very mysterious and creepy.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

On our request list 😇

[@Deyshawn-c6f]

You guys should react to halo reach cutscenes

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

That’s one we plan to play 🙂

[@CodyAcornRollins]

Master Chief isn't in Halo Wars

[@nabilassal1571]

Nice

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

🙂

[@somethingrandom617]

I know im a year late lol but 13:20 thats not master chief its members of Spartan Red team probably Jerome who is a mega badass like Chief and the only Spartan who I would be ever okay with succeeded Chief if he dies

[@michellerahe4853]

Can you guy's do a reaction to Assassin's creed "all Assassin's speeches" there's alot of great ones

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We have it on our request list. But will it be spoilers for the games 🤔😇

[@thedipgaming]

Do a reaction on call of duty modern warfare 2 teaser

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😎👍🙂

[@Wong-x5y]

react to the trailer star wars Jedi: survival

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

We will 😇

[@hunteryt7819]

I truly do not mean any offense towards you guys, but it really annoys me when people watch things out of order

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

No offense taken. We hadn’t planned on watching it out of order. We just wanted Halo Wars 1 in fact and while we were watching Halo Wars 2 we had no idea it was Halo Wars 2 until Halo Wars 1 popped up 😢 And by then…we couldn’t unwatch it 🤗

[@pronoblewolf]

You watch these way out of order

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yup. Not intended. We mention it in intro of the first part of Halo Wars. We had planned to just check out Halo 1 and this is what we got 🤗

[@DereckMc360]

First one here!

[@BESTMOAD]

Nau first to comment nice try

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

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