Ham Radio 2.0: Episode 73 - Yaesu System Fusion - HRI200 Interface into WIRESx Demo

In this episode, I connect my HRI200 WIRESx interface box to my FTM-100DR Fusion radio and do some QSOs. There is a new room for North Texas repeaters that is being used for linking, so I display the connection to this room also. #kc5hwb #texasjproductions

[@Kibwunga]

So you only need the box if you’re going to do a room. Otherwise, just a software in the cable will get you on wire text. So for those who aren’t interested in a room, just a node, radio and cable is all you need

[@BilSmith-n7v]

You don't need the HRI-200. WiresX is a proprietary system that almost no one uses anyway. There is absolutely no point in using WiresX. If don't have a local Fushion repeater in range, what you need is a hotspot. There are plenty of Fushion reflectors you will be able to connect to. A hotspot is cheaper, easy to setup, and they just work! The HRI-200 is absolute garbage, and so is the software.

[@Kibwunga]

@@BilSmith-n7v I use WIRESX with the computer, cable and just the radio. No HRI or hotspot needed. But had it to do over again, I would do the hotspot. I much prefer the layout for Dstar

[@Caseytheradioguy]

your MIC sounds freaking awesome

[@JonathanCreaser]

Hi from London. I'm a bit confused about your comments about not being able to access WIRES-X rooms without a HRI200 interface box... You actually CAN access WIRES-X with just a Fusion radio connected to a WIRES-X capable repeater/gateway or you could use a digital radio and use an SharkRF Openspot and connected through one of the YSF Reflectors... Although I have a HRI200 box I don't use it anymore as I connect through to WIRES-X through a local gateway or through my Openspot...

[@HamRadio2]

The Fusion repeater has to have the HRI200 box connected in order to reach the WIRESx network. So you don't have to have that HRI200 connected to your radio directly, but if you want to get into WIRESx, you have to have it on either your radio or your repeater. The Openspot and other hotspots are the new options where this situation may change. But even in the Openspot, you can connect YSF reflectors and not directly to the rooms themselves. However, there is a way to get around that also, I just haven't done the testing on it yet to know exactly how that works.

[@JonathanCreaser]

Let me know how you get on with linking direct to WIRES-X rooms from outside the platform... Great set of shows on your channel by the way :-)

[@HamRadio2]

Thanks for watching.

[@k5orn815]

Its been a while since I had the shark rf, but the last I remember on the sharkrf you could only connect into a Reflector that was tied into a certain wires-x room. At the time we couldnt change the room. Only SharkRF reflectors. Is that still correct?

[@JonathanCreaser]

Yes, still the case. The problem is that Yaesu built WIRES-X as a closed system...

[@ghern9953]

I have a FT3D trying to connect wires-x analog /digital. Problem is I do not have a mic connection on my laptop. I cannot follow provided diagram to "connect to receive digital and analog station through internet". I can work digital stations only. Any ideas?

[@ScannerJunkie]

I have same problem. I could never get the pdn direct to work also.

[@Gr3gOG]

So correct me if I'm wrong, but as long as you have a node setup, you use the HT to connect to the node and then you use the Node to connect to whatever other node/room you want to around the world?

[@HamRadio2]

That's one way to do it, yes

[@Gr3gOG]

@@HamRadio2 Thanks!

[@Drekkag]

so how do you get on the net on DMR or even D-STAR when you do not have a repeater even close enough to you? and also to your comments that D-STAR and DMR are easier because of repeaters makes no sense when you could have a WIRES-X repeater and have the same ease. my biggest question is the first I asked. I hate to be negative but your opening did that versus WIRES-X. If you have no repeater near by... what are the options. Seem like looking to the internet it takes weeks to figure out what you have to do as there are a million ways but what is the easiest for ALL 3 three DV modes? please enlighten me as C4FM is the only thing in my area here. Would like to venture into others but will not spend hundreds of dollars for a repeater or radios. I am a poor ham. 73 ad0am

[@HamRadio2]

Not sure I understand your question. My statement said that a DMR and DSTAR repeater do not need an extra piece of hardware to connect into their respective networks, where the Fusion repeater needs the HRI200 box, which is an extra cost, in order to connect to the WIRESx network. If you have no repeaters near-by at all, then a hotspot would be your answer. My comments were about repeaters and radios getting into the respective networks and wasn't related to hotspots at all

[@Drekkag]

OK. that is what i was wondering. only repeaters in my area that have digital (2 of them) are c4fm only. I got the dv4mini and maybe i will try some DMR eventually. I just wonder from what you have reviewed, based on what i have said now. What HT do you think is a good starter. I was lopoking at the prices of the TYT and they seem pretty good compared to all the other brands and digital modes. Kind of dumb to spend $300+ on a radio you can pretty much only use the digital voice at home.

[@1MinuteFlipDoc]

@@Drekkag openspot!

[@kumarasamyraja5621]

Can I use hri 100 for yaesu ftm-400xdr and use fusion?

[@kevinki7fxk666]

system fusion does not need an Hri 200. A node or repeater only needs one, then whoever conntects can just use the node or rpt. Remember, you do not need to own the node or rpt to connect, if a club makes one public and you are permitted to, you can use it. Also, YSF uses 9600 bps data speeds, D-Star uses 1200 bps similar to aprs SLOW IN COMPARISON AND YSF IS BETTER FOR DATA. Remember, rooms are like repeater networks. But in YSF you can connect a node or rpt to a room and use that room for voice and data and have a little community on their. YSF is to me, logically the superior

[@HamRadio2]

You do need an HRI200 box to connect into a WIRESx room, whether it be connected to the repeater itself, or connected to a radio running as a remote node. Once that is done, others can connect to the repeater with a Fusion radio, and join any room they want. But there must be an HRI200 box in the mix for the node/repeater to be able to access WIRESx.

[@kevinki7fxk666]

Ham Radio 2.0 that you can use a radio to connect to a room. Room connection via radio is what most people use. It is implemented on all wires-x capable radios. I just think of the hri-200 as an one time purchase that after benefits everyone

[@HamRadio2]

Yes but still....it is an extra piece of hardware, that you have to purchase, to make the system work. DMR and DSTAR repeaters don't require extra hardware to just connect to talkgroups/reflectors on the internet.

[@HamRadio2]

Also, room connection via radio isn't possible without an HRI-200 box somewhere in the mix. Be it on the repeater, or on another radio, working as a remote node to the repeater (typically done for repeaters that have no internet on-site)

[@ruboaris]

Jason, Just an FYI, if you read the message that's popping up about the color scheme instead of closing it every time, the third option will keep your current one and will not ask you to switch again :-)

[@HamRadio2]

Yes I know, I was just concentrating on speaking into the mic and had my mind on the subject at hand, so I was just closing it.

[@garyross9163]

I may have missed this (apologies if you said it) but can you connect any radio to a wires X HRI 200 or does it have to be a Yeasu ?

[@HamRadio2]

Gary Ross For digital, it has to be Yaesu. If you're trying to do analog WIRESx you might be able to connect something else, but not sure the HRI box would recognize it. I've never tried

[@garyross9163]

Thanks! KE0GUZ Out.

[@duaneshuster6366]

Hi Jason great info & Video Fusion (Confusion Radio) good input! 1# Want to connect HRI-200 to my FtTM-100DR & put it in analog talk through in FM simplex w/ my alnico,baofeng,wouxun ect analog does it work analog the ftm-100? also if use wifi in building can hri-200 connect without a wired connection to internet my router on 3rd floor ? Is the HRI-200 a wireless device? that's it..

[@k5orn815]

It would be cheaper for you to setup an echolink node. The main design behind Wires-X was to utilize the new digital radios and architecture designed for them. When you introduce and analog radio into the network and into a digital room. You take a system that is running like a high end Home theater and bring everyone down to the level of a TV with a builtin VCR. There really is nothing confusing about the system at all. It takes about 5 minutes to learn how to use any of the Fusion radios. Then when you add the Wires-X enhancement, the user really doesn't have to do anything unless they want to change rooms. Yes you can work analog from the FTM-100 (but why) you can find a cheap analog radio to use as the gateway device. 3 things you need for a True digital Wires-x node. Minimum: FT1DR, FTM-100, HRI-200 and Laptop (HRI-200 is a USB device, needs computer). Cheaper: but in Beta: SharkRF, LAN, computer, FT1DR.(coming soon WiFi)

[@HamRadio2]

You could do that, yes - but it would be inefficient, as Cevan describes. The HRI200 box isn't wireless, you have to have it physically connected to both a computer running the WIRESx software and to your radio/repeater. But then you could use the wireless card in your computer to connect to the internet, as I do in this video. So you don't need an Ethernet hardline, but the HRI200 box does need physical hardlines into both the radio and the laptop.

[@duaneshuster6366]

Ok some insight on connections. In my area lots of analog repeaters a few fusions that are not connected to wires. The ones that are not everyone has got a radio for. So there is a 70cm repeater on fusion FM analog further away from me & really It sounds good for digital over analog. Things to consider but being no digital HT at this point & Purchasing a hri-200 if own room/s can be used in analog ht fine for time being. Echo link has been around forever but as shown buy ham the radio activity is on off connect disconnect no one talking or connection to a node that gets used 15 mins a day Activity I see is greater with fusion. When all goes dead after 9pm internet linking be best idea. Thanks all .

[@stephens1950]

Thanks could you do an update with FTM-3100/3200?

[@HamRadio2]

I don't have either of those, but I have the FT-7250 coming up soon

[@LivePDOfficerInterviews]

My friend, Great microphone! Excellent processing on this video. However it must be stated that you’re incorrect when you made the statement that “Wires -X cannot be accessed from a repeater.“ That is incorrect. According to a phone call I just finished with Yaesu technical support, if a repeater is within range that has a wires ask connection, you can connect to it.” There are many KZbin videos out there that he show this being done. Just a friendly note my friend. 73 and keep up the good work.

[@HamRadio2]

Thanks for your comments. This video is somewhat old, and was made before the firmware was released that allows an HRI-200 box to connect to a repeater. So today, you are correct - that is totally possible. However, at the time of this video recording, that ability hadn't been released yet.

[@LivePDOfficerInterviews]

Gotcha... thanks my friend! Let’s work someday a QSO! I’d like that. 73 and Blessings from K7HN

[@HamRadio2]

Thank you sir, for commenting. 73 to you also.

[@steadfast666]

I think the wiresx and a PC and a Transceiver setup is a little "unsexy" because with my sharkrf openspot with a fusion handheld - nothing more :-)

[@k5orn815]

Its been a while since I had the shark rf, but the last I remember on the sharkrf you could only connect into a Reflector that was tied into a certain wires-x room. At the time we couldnt change the room. Only SharkRF reflectors. Is that still correct?

[@HamRadio2]

Yes but you can't use the SharkRF to connect directly to a YSF Room, only a reflector.

[@steadfast666]

No - now you can connect to any Fusion FCS and YSFReflectors too

[@k5orn815]

You have to clarify. Fusion FCS and YSF Reflectors are not Wires-X Rooms. The way I understand it is You can only connect into a WIRES-X Room if it is currently tied into a Fusion FCS or YSF REflector. So to see my point can you take your SharfRF and connect into the Wires-X Austin-Texas Room 21636? Thats what we are trying to find out.

[@HamRadio2]

steadfast666 An FCS is not a room

[@dazzacam9307]

I want a hamradio 2.0 autographed shirt Jason ...

[@kd0dwv]

It's not mwwis it is mnwis for Minnesota-Wisconsin

[@HamRadio2]

Yeah that's it

[@kd0dwv]

Ham Radio 2.0 Not trying to sound rude or anything just lettin you know

[@dalemyers5096]

cold is subjective to acclimation and preperation.

[@dalemyers5096]

when one radio can cross over to all of the digital formats. im holding off on a purchace. i suspect a Chinese radio will meet that chalange first. i suspect a Chinese radio will come out with an all mode ht. why do i suspect this. because name brand manufactures would have done this already. slacking off on being innovators.

[@HamRadio2]

Maybe. But what you will gain in digital format, you will lose in another area. Perhaps performance or a receiver. Find what digital repeaters are near you and choose that format for now.

[@tommcquiggan8402]

I didn't subscribe because (and there's no malice in my comments), I feel that your videos contain way too much "waffle" before getting to the issue that attracted me to the video in the first place. Once you get to the point, your videos are great, but I think you'd maybe benefit from placing a marker in the video to indicate where to start listening from (or talk about all the other stuff at the END of your videos for all those that find it interesting (and obviously many do)).

[@HamRadio2]

You're commenting on a video that is about 2.5 years old, so I am assuming you haven't watched any of my later vids yet. I changed formats about 8-9 months ago and now follow one of the methods you describe.

[@tommcquiggan8402]

@@HamRadio2 Oh that's great. Obviously, I've only viewed the videos that related to equipment that I've recently got. My apologies.

[@HamRadio2]

@@tommcquiggan8402 No apology necessary, your points are well taken, but I took them some months ago, lol. Glad you are watching the videos though.

[@1MinuteFlipDoc]

wow.. even worse than dstar $$$! hahaha pass!