Hamilton and The Three Body Problem SPOILERCAST! - Still Untitled: The Adam Savage Project - 3/01/16

[@LL-yw3ge]

Don't stop at the first book! If the first book blew your mind, the second book will change your view of the universe, and the third book will have you question everything existing. I'm reading the third book for the second time!

[@Stormsign]

True

[@YiLiu61]

Couldn't agree more.

[@eltoncdb]

@We Are Monsoons Had a week of vacation read through the first 2 books in Chinese. After finish the series I might start the English version

[@RiccardoPelc]

Currently half way through the 3rd, truly amazing 👌🏻

[@Orioning413]

Totally agree!

[@brightside5815]

11:27 when they start talking about three body

[@Miketjones]

Incorrect. Started around 7:00

[@28Pluto]

The discussion starts at 7:00 and the major spoilers start around 11:00

[@Thekazekeza]

thank you so much

[@cd1565]

Thanks a lot dude I don’t care about the other topics, seriously

[@daddyleon]

@@28Pluto tyvm!

[@supacook2000]

I cannot believe you guys have not done a video on the sequel "Dark Forrest" yet. For me, book 2 was an even better book than book 1. The concepts it discusses are even more impressive than the ones from book 1. The ideas and desperate attempts from humans to circumvent its abilities and the concept of the dark forest blew my mind, unbelievable book, would love to hear you guys opinions on it. Please, please, please do a spoiler cast on it!!!

[@Raketemensch-fl3sv]

Yeah! I just started Death's End, and loved the 2nd book. I really liked both of the first two... I live in china so i dug a lot of the cultural/historical stuff in the first one, but would probably agree with you that for a general sci-fi audience Dark Forrest is even better.

[@Lashovadjs]

I believe most people would agree volumn 2 is the best among the three

[@karimshebeika8010]

I have heard many people say the third was the best, I might agree with you that 2 was the best, because of its position in the readers education process

[@林晴-e5x]

Abner Chaves the movie had been broken

[@zpluo5276]

I think the second book is better.the third book was written in a hurry after the author becames famous.

[@jollyblue]

I gotta say, Norm does a fantastic job explaining the book, how the mind-blowing plots unfold and how it relates to our own history. You can feel the passion they all have for the book listening to them break down the crazy reveals.

[@Zerepzerreitug]

I literally stopped the podcast when the spoilers began, bought and read the book, and now I'm back XD

[@harshalpatel7560]

I'm so happy I stumbled across this specific Tested Spoilercast. Just finished The Three Body Problem and I am absolutely captivated by it.

[@Seaxuan]

You may need 30mins to talk about "water drop (droplet)" from dark forest....oh man, mind blowing

[@galvinatrix1984]

I've never felt more doom in my life reading a book until I read the Droplet attack scene.......holy crap!

[@danielnorman531]

Its so good because we know its makes sense

[@isnameisfree]

“They choose the oldest destruction method - collision.”

[@lixzx007]

don't even start on the dark forest theory

[@laki74]

The ship being sliced by the nano wires was my favourite part of the book. Scary, yet fascinating.

[@johnkapri6306]

I just finished it an hour ago and it was amazing! I feel so sorry and so sad for Ye Wenjie. When she meets up with those three red guards and they told her their story, that is the sadest moment in the book imo. The storytelling is just beautifull...

[@T--kq3pj]

I don't feel anyng but disgrace and disgust towards Ye. Not only she killed cold-bloded here boss along with here husband - that's like nothing compared to the betreyal of all human race.

[@rolithesecond]

This book series has some of the most jawdropping and utterly terrifying ideas in it that you haven't even imagined. It chills you do the bone and can be deeply disturbing on an existential level.

[@Orioning413]

The three body problem is the greatest novel I have even read in my 20 years reading !

[@mostafabinali7109]

12:00 this sneeze makes me re check the date of this video 2016 , this one of golden years which you can sneeze without anyone afraid

[@keithprice7119]

The Three Body game world was the highlight of the book for me. Amazingly vivid, bizarre world that just completely drew me in.

[@masonthunkwell9786]

It started to really feel like a release after a hard day of work, going from all the real-world shit that character was dealing with, to then get to chill and read about the crazy shit going on in that game.

[@markhowards420]

The TV series is coming soon . Please review it... And please get Will back ❤❤ I miss the Dad's show.

[@edcatt9196]

I loved the Water Droplet, and the two-dimensional weapon.

[@JoyStreet]

The second book: The Dark Forest - is just as good and weird as the first book. Can't wait for the third book.

[@djdksf1]

You guys should keep going. The concepts that are unpacked in the next two books get even bigger, deeper, and more DEEPLY unsettling.

[@Miminaptime]

The second and third book only get better :D

[@KyleAPemberton]

I think the third is by far the worst. The Remembrance of Earth's Past series mirrors the Godfather Trilogy in terms of the quality of each installment.

[@MrKiar1611]

I think the multi dimension mentioned in the book was referring the definition from string theory while time is always the +1 dimension. In string theory, our dimension is 3D+time and all the other 8 dimensions are folded.

[@delite00]

Hey I'm a big fan of Adam from China. Just wanna tell you guys the third part of the book is 10 times crazier than the 1st one. Have fun.

[@sa4555]

After reading the whole series, there was an existential dread left in me, especially the concept of Dark Forest, I honestly hope that we take this seriously. I hope you read "The Redemption of Time by Baoshu. That novel completed the story in a very nice manner, lot of unresolved things left by Cixin Liu in his trilogy.

[@MrMagic1163]

You guys really should read the complete trilogy! Highly recommended. Second book - Dark Forrest Third book - Death's End

[@jimmyyu6734]

Please also make a review Three body: Dark Forest. I can't wait to hear the thoughts of second book from you guys!

[@FectacularSpail]

Seriously. And Death's End, as well. It's been a year... :-(

[@SonOfTerra92]

Man, Dark Forest is mind blowing

[@rasmiranjansahoo4612]

I was in shock after finishing the book !

[@SonOfTerra92]

@@rasmiranjansahoo4612 "if I destroy you. What business is it of yours?" Was equivalent of "run you fools" from lord of the rings.

[@ChristopherDoll]

Usually I avoid spoilers of books or movies, but "her reply to the aliens" (the one that she was warned to NOT reply) makes me want to read this. Excellent. Thank you

[@FlowNeffets]

Reading through all three parts, I have to say that the trilogy completely blew my mind. The books all base upon each other, and all deal with different topics. Part one was the most educating about Chinese culture, part two contained some of the best twists ever appearing in a novel, and part three is simply poetic. Definitive recommendation to read!

[@FectacularSpail]

Pleeeeeaase do a video about The Dark Forest and Death's End!!

[@JLPicard1648]

Third book released in English today

[@brainfragrances]

This first book was peanuts...the two sequels blow it out of the water. Ball Lightning is also pretty good (actually better character wise, a little less epic story wise). Reading The Wandering Earth (11 short stories) now and so far it's as epic as the trilogy

[@tinker9589]

I love this book. Still reading the second in the series.

[@SonOfTerra92]

the Dark Forest will blow your mind even more.

[@aetherrosenblatt557]

Death's End?

[@遇见-h4l]

Three-body animation to be released in 2021

[@nicholasxuu]

second book is even better!

[@Czeckie]

but the third book is the best

[@Dunmu0604]

第二本最佳，第三本结尾部分不好

[@InnuendoXP]

6 years late but the plot point of interacting (unknowingly) with aliens in a VR game was around at least as far back as Ender's Game

[@acrnm]

Da Shu stole the book for me, I immediately disliked Da Shu only to literally cheer him on and celebrate his cunningness

[@JLPicard1648]

"Lovely unfolding" pun intended?

[@michael6732]

The second and third books were even better than the first.

[@howdydutt1e]

I just finished the second one and it was so dang good. Da Shi is my favorite character by far.

[@jialefu9550]

you guys might want to read the second and third one as well

[@thisisthelukas]

Sheng Yufei and Da Shi were my favorite characters. :D

[@MOSMASTERING]

... and now we have the Netflix series! That's what brought me here. I'm now going to read the books because I can't wait for the next season!

[@nebulaxu9838]

I'm Chinese and I love this trilogy SOOOOO MHCH！！！If you like the first book,the second book will blow you away,the third will blew you off the surface of earth...Another chinese writer wrote the fourth part of this book with his own view which will blow you out of the universe，literally！！！

[@swiftchristian2613]

acctually the second of the trilogy is greater than the other two

[@instachocolate]

Have you guys checked out the Three Body TV series by Tencent(not the Netflix one)? It's brilliant! Would love to hear yall talk about it

[@phreatom]

Yay, I finished the book in time! Thanks for giving us enough of a head-start!

[@therelaxafterrevision8073]

The Three Body Problem is lit and I'm partway through it. Had to pause cos of the spoilers!! Heard the word "multidimensional" and "Sofons"!!

[@Subparanon]

Vernor Vinge's idea was spheres of influence though based on position towards the galactic center though, not just different physics from one day to the next and it was mostly higher physics like FTL travel that were impacted.

[@tpmynameis85]

"Carbide Tipped Pens" is a collection of science fiction short stories from Ben Bova, Eric Choi and seventeen authors featuring Liu Cixin's "Circles". Which is adapted from the human computer section of "Three Body Problem"

[@runescaper1333]

I had this on my watch later for 7 years because I haven't read the 3 body problem. Now I can watch it 😁

[@drebinfrank5364]

VR starts at 31:59

[@drumr828]

Will Smith again??? What the hell... I give up. I cant watch this

[@steampunkskunk3638]

when he left Tested he said he would keep doing "still untitled". he will be here every week.

[@Requiemes]

+drumr828 Goodbye.

[@LQ2DARESQ]

+drumr828 bye

[@旎沓烨]

不要回答！不要回答！不要回答！

[@langliao6278]

抱歉

[@cathys2307]

不要返航，这里不是家！

[@charleslee6251]

try the third book coming in this fall, it may blow your mind again

[@ForeverMasterless]

Nothing Adam is saying about Hamilton is an exaggeration. It really is that good. It's the only music me and my girlfriend have listened to for like two months now. It's a fucking masterpiece of the highest order.

[@TheOpossum13]

Since Norm and friends are doing a stop motion week of builds I think an Anomalisa related Podcast would be wicked that movie is just bonkers in every way.

[@LibraryOfCat]

I can't listen to Hamilton, or to be precise, the last few songs, because I break down and cry. How did they do this. English isn't even my first language...

[@Subparanon]

As someone who reads a lot of sci fi I can see why so many people like the book, but I think part of that like is that they don't read a lot of sci fi. I thought as a story and fiction it was intriguing and a good read, but the science part of the science fiction is not the mind blowing revelation it tries to be. The ending had major deus ex machina aspects and the main problem I have with the science is that he mixes real scientific fact freely with flights of fantasy. Please remember it's a book and not all of the science and ideas the book exposes you to are real science.

[@DesignsbyCADPRO]

0:48 show begins

[@rayrack5416]

The review is all over the place just like the book. Congrats :)

[@tobynmanthorpe]

I like the lighting / camera in this video.

[@mauroylospichiruchis544]

and dont miss the third! ... and the follow up fan fiction writen bya guy with bushu as pseudonim. Cixin Liu said gave the follow up fan made book his blessing!

[@DruLeeParsec]

Wil, PLEASE stop interrupting your co-host. Now, I had given up on Three Body Problem because it was moving at glacial speed and I was half way through the audio book still waiting for something to happen. Because of this discussion I have decided to give it another try and finish off the book.

[@nebulaxu9838]

+Greg Brouelette The third book is so much better,spoil alert,even humankind have a chance to enter a higher dimension！I guess it‘s a little difficult too translate those chapters, when it comes, you will love it！

[@johnkapri6306]

+Greg Brouelette Yes, it moves very slowly. But when things happen, they REALLY hit you.

[@AcornFox]

I didn't mind the pace, but the interruptions were really annoying.

[@weimincai1118]

The book 3 definitely is my favorite. I think it has more amazing thoughts than the others. Ps. Nobody likes 程心uh-huh? :-P

[@AM1N4L]

You guys should check out the quantum thief trilogy if you liked three body! Very dense hard sf

[@jinniwind]

AMINAL thanks for the recommendation! Btw my 4 years old pronounces animal as aminal, so i find your ID very funny to me

[@VivekBoseShree]

The guys on the left and right are all over the place. The middle guy tried to add some structure but the two guys kept interrupting him. How unfortunate.

[@izumizhang9680]

DO NOT ANSWER!DO NOT ANSWER!DO NOT ANSWER!

[@ahmetmetinuzun]

And the fine gentleman had a whole Mythbuster's episode on sneezing into your upper arm and not hand. Note to self: don't shake Adam's hand during flu and allergy season.

[@ernievzla]

Book 2 The Dark Forest is even better The whole concept of the dark forest is pure cosmic horror!! But also a legit theory to answer the Fermi Paradox... this series is legit Lovecraft would be proud!!

[@pfang32]

Yes, 100%

[@geoffgreen2105]

Adam, Stephen Colbert tried to get tickets to Hamilton as a gag a little while ago, and it was booked solid until 2018. I hear even President Obama had to wait to get tickets because of the demand. I know you're a savvy guy and well-connected with the showbiz folks, bit if you get to see Hamilton in NYC before it goes to San Francisco on tour, you will have to make a bonus episode of Mythbusters showing us how you did it.

[@queenofyeay]

The location of the hugely powerful space radio transmitter is listed as Red Coast Base, Inner Mongolia, China.

[@ShaunRGardner]

Segway was so smooth that idek when it happened. Idk what they're talking about

[@theDudeAbid3s]

This is pretty sweet the quantum foam it's like Penrose diagrams??!! To those that read the non translated version, would you agree? a hero is not hero; he who holds the swords. Wrt the 'bubble ship'

[@leonardobautista1619]

I think more important than the science-fiction in the book, is the sad and tragic story of Ye Wenjie.

[@BROON71]

Once again, Adam literally can not stop touching/wiping his nose with his hand.

[@Czeckie]

coke habit in high-functional individuals

[@danno1111]

Maybe I just did really well at coming into reading The Three Body Problem without knowing anything of the background, but I'd consider what Adam refers to at 9:10 as "minor spoilers" to be pretty significant - that aspect of it isn't revealed until halfway through the book or something.

[@BadHorse287]

Ah yes it's always nice to see the Hamilton addiction spreading AND MORE IMPORTANTLY it's so wonderful to hear Adam praise Lin Manuel Miranda's writing because oh man Lin is an honest-to-god genius.

[@0321Dave]

If you’re going to talk about Hamilton for the first seven minutes of a 30 minute video you need to put it in the title.

[@groundcontrolto]

Now cheap on your favourite ebookstore!

[@xushenxin]

Believe or not, my favorite character is Thomas Wade, the Russian monster. If give human to him, he may just have saved human, and we can do all the humanity things later.

[@caesarzx]

Hey are you guys gonna chat about those two sequels of that novel or NOT??

[@tylerdyrden4999]

Aw! I was hoping for a discussion of orbit mechanics. :(

[@MantraHerbInchSin]

I will listen up to the spoilers, sounds like some insane books

[@Tinto4]

Wow. Was really looking forward to this conversation because I loved the tbp trilogy. But, comparing the first book to Contact doesn't do Mr. Liu's work justice. Sorry. Glad the discussion got a bit better after that.

[@randomname3715]

Adam needs to listen to the Hamilton tree bute with the Weird Al song in it.

[@Wiromax3]

At first i thought this was about Carl Hamilton, the Swedish spy. But not disappointed at all :)

[@celestialbreeze]

I was looking to see if you guys followed this video up with Dark Forest but couldn't find it. If not, you guys need to do a review of that. As someone who's not the best at understanding science terms I'm glad you guys touched on and explained the Sophons...i was honestly a little lost lol

[@geopenguin329]

3BP reminded me a little of War & Peace. Which was the best book(s) I have ever read. I had a few little problems with the science, especially the nano-fiber that they sliced the ship with. Seems it would be a China syndrome situation. Also thought the solution to the game shouldn't have came that easy to him. He jumped to it way to fast and conveniently. I did like the book. So far I am struggling reading the sequel, but it was translated by someone completely different.

[@Subparanon]

R.I.P. Tony Dyson. Any chance you guys can talk about his influence in your next webcast?

[@YangSunWoo]

I want an accurate battle simulator of a civilization that has 400,000 years of crossbow advancement vs a civilization that has 10 years of industrial revolution civilization.

[@ingratitude]

Da Shi is the best character, agreed! :D

[@IDKOKIDK]

19:15 Will doesn't know what 'High concept' means. I knew he was all talk & subscribed to the notion of *"If you can't blind them with brilliance baffle them with bullshit"* . I knew it was only a matter of time before I caught him out.

[@AlohaMilton]

Basic issue I have with this book is... (SPOILERS): If you receive a message from the next star over, even if you are the obviously more advanced species your not answering the message as part of a plan to invade, because the universe just proved high probability of many advanced life forms and one cannot assume it's just the weaker species one is replying to. Basically the trisolarians act like the teenagers in a horror movie they drive a human fear centered plot but there is little rational. They aliens would be exploring local star systems with light speed subatomic probes and planning the colonies on many uninhabited planets while avoiding any populated and broadcasting beacons that an even more advanced civilisation might show up at as well. It's all so linear towards some conceptual finally (I'm on the second book). It does not seem likely given the issue of civilisation density one would project. That's not even getting into the magical never ending supply of renewing atmosphere on trisolaris. It does not seem right it can loose its atmosphere so many times and regenerate it again and again to near the same content and pressure that a complex life form that uses fluids requiring a narrow range of temp and pressure for proper viscosity. The curve of space time being unpredictable makes holding an atmosphere in solar radiation inconsistent as described, but the geology is going to run out of gasses to produce an atmosphere. And it will change in composition as lighter gases are lost. Some of those feeling ineffective would be hunting the ETA mercilessly as a way to fight the war in the moment. ETA would disappear in a wave of public military actions and excucutions, every nations military doing the only thing they really can which is kill suspected ETA. then the the inquisition would continue through many innocent parties for a time before it transitioned into general militancy. It would be bad, but ETA would be a memory driving a behavior not an actual organization at that point. Freedom would be so dead if a group of elites were exposed as having betrayed the human race. Those with children and the resistance propaganda memorized would live, anyone even remotely displaying hesitation or lack of faith would be killed. It just seems more likely to me this way but it's just my opinion. I like the books they are fun reads, better not too realistic, which is 'holy crap there is advancing intelligence so close it must be everywhere, destroy all the transmitters till we know more!!!

[@jinniwind]

AlohaMilton i think the second message ye wenjie sent to trisolorans explained earth and human beings a bit, so trisolorans knew that earth had less advanced technology than theirs. Also it was explained in the book that trisolorans were not very optimistic about being homeless and wandering around the universe trying to find the next habitat. They preferred to “immigrate” to a planet which they knew for sure would work, especially earth sounded like heaven and had everything they longed for from Ye’s description of earth.

[@queenofyeay]

SPOILER ALERT 3 Body Problem I personally LOVED the struggle of the Trisolarian civilizations and the dawning understanding of what is causing the various destruction of each. Would NOT have wanted to be part of a malfunctioning section of a Trisolarian being computer!

[@jannikgotpanick1469]

Super Man was originally meant to be communist by the authors (who were likewise), that's why he wears a red cape

[@sangun123]

no spoilers but the ending of the 2nd book is brilliant, like truly how would we defeat a more advanced civilization? i'll allow you guys to figure that out lol

[@CounterVortex]

The Cultural Revolution was not in the late '50s to early '60s. It was 1966 to 1976.

[@mileslee3133]

Seriously, though I am Chinese but I hope the movie of this arts can be made by Chinese and Holywood together, Holywood has more experience in Sci-fiction movies than current Chinese movie producers.

[@Subparanon]

I'd also like to point out that the orbital period of Proxima Centauri is believed to be 500,000 years and the stars may be gravitationaly bound to each other, but they are so far apart that being in a planet next to one the other 2 stars would just be bright stars, not suns. So the whole 3 suns in the sky thing would be impossible and perterbances in the orbit would last millions of years, not dozens of months or days or weeks or years. One last thing is that there is no reason the surface of a star would only be visible when it got really close to a planet and then suddenly popped into vision. The explanation given for the suns seemingly transforming into wandering stars without growing smaller and dimmer is not a fact. I know it's just a book, but they picked a real star system, with real scientific observations made so they should have avoided fudging things. The whole point of the book is that a 3 star system would be unstable and devour planets, but the Centauri system is just a few stars, reasonably close together that are gravitationally bound but so far apart that none of the nightmare scenarios in the book would be possible. At most, as the stars orbit each other it might disturb the Centauri equivalent of the Oort cloud and cause more comets to get knocked into inner system orbits.

[@Morewilliam]

+Subparanon you must be fun in party

[@ApocalypticAang]

Sorry to burst you bubble-- but you just tried to review a book based on a review of the book... try actually reading a book before you review it (or just don't)?

[@Subparanon]

ApocalypticAang Who is your comment directed to? I'm not sure I understand what you meant. If it was towards me I read the book and I didn't review it by reviewing a review so your post has me scratching my head.

[@VarunMe]

What a ridiculous comment. They also used Earth and humans on it and its civilizational developments and we know Earth isn't like that in real life so should have used some other planet and species. This is Sci-Fi not a documentary. Your critique isn't coherent. Thus the problem is with the reader's own subjective reservations not with the book itself.

[@jinniwind]

Subparanon i kind of see your point but dont really at the same time. Sci fis are not equivalent to science. One of the many good things that come out of sci fi works is that it makes common people or people who are not very scientifically knowledgeable curious about and interested in the actual science. I had to ask my scientific husband what a threebody problem is in physics, and i wouldn’t even know about this real star or stars if i didnt read this book. And now i learned the scientific facts about them from you, so I guess it’s a good thing

[@peterxyz3541]

There’s a cautious approach to sci-fi out of Mainland, anything that’s alternative universe are frowned upon because the CCP don’t want people to imagine a society without the established ruling party.

[@yingzhaochang3332]

？？？

[@illustriouschin]

Another thing to consider is The Three-Body Problem is a trilogy.

[@xjudson]

big ideas executed poorly. could've been the translation but I just found the writing plodding and distracting. It sounded dubbed rather than translated. It may be because I'm used to writers like Kim stanley robinson and Neil stephenson..bold and exciting which this writing wasn't..the ideas were very interesting but I doubt I'll continue with the series...

[@ApocalypticAang]

Good decision, Liu Cixin is not a writer you read for character development and literary flair-- leave him to readers like who take a more holistic view on the science fiction they read.

[@aritonionut5492]

In Neil Stepheson's books, if the character farts, he proceeds to describe the fart in details and span it over 20-30 pages. Good luck with that.