The Hobby CNC That You'll Never Outgrow

[@RockhollowCNCServices]

I think you are totally honest and forthright with your opinions and findings regardless if you paid for it or not. That can’t be said by others in KZbin.

[@ClintonCaraway-CNC]

I'll tell you something I learned from one video call and one chat over some chicken wings and drinks with the guys from Carveco and Hamilton at Workbenchcon.... Hamilton is the same guy in person as he is on video. He is brutal honesty while extremely humble and I promise that he will never say a word about any product that he doesn't believe 100%. I get the feeling this might not be the case with every KZbin channel!!

[@NWGR]

Hamilton, you're one of the very few individuals who's opinion I trust even when given free product. Most of the time, those types of videos are nothing more than glorified spec sheet reads. So keep it up, your content is amazing. I was pretty much set on a shapeoko 5 pro, but there's some launch issues that are giving me pause. It'll probably still be a good while until I have enough for a cnc, but the elite woodworker is looking like that may be the way to go. I appreciate your cnc videos.

[@Scott_Thrasher]

im a big fan of the green screen and the constant feed of info going across it kept my me engaged for the entire video some times just listening to someone talk during reviews like this puts me to sleep or I stop caring and click away. keep up the good work =]

[@akro9777]

Your honesty is so pleasant to listen to. Watched your top 3, enjoyed all 3. Thanks!

[@scottsilvia760]

I truly appreciate you as a unique individual doing what he loves to do. A person is absolutely lucky to find a job that he loves to do, make money and have a satisfied and fulfilled life at the same time. Good for you. Later when you’re older and look back you will be completely at peace with your life. (Especially if people give you tools, can’t get enough of those.)

[@wesleyjackson1036]

Great video. Thanks for the time and effort on it. My Foreman should be here Tuesday and I can't wait to jump in.

[@RaisedGrainWoodCo]

I totally agree. I have the X50 and bought it in 2021 and have made the machine's purchase price back numerous times over with just the basics. I also don't think there is a better machine on the market as of today. Can't wait to move into a larger shop and upgrade to the Elite! Great company in my opinion. Good video and good info to help get people to consider the best purchase they'll make if they want to make money in their spare time.

[@keithclark8030]

Thank you for the video. I have looked at CNC a couple years ago. I would like to learn more about CNC. Not sure what I plan to do, but interested in some 3-D imagines.

[@rodneycarpenter3253]

Thank you for your honest review.

[@PTcruser65]

How amazing that i found this wholesome channel today.Nothing but praise for you in the comments, you are a godsend.Praise the Lord.

[@ronalves9118]

Hi Great Video. I am not computer literate. I bought a $250 small 7" x 11" put it together plugged it in and the router mover. Then using Carveco program I designed a small name plate, hit go and nothing happening. I would need to go to a school somewhere for at least 40 hours of training before I ever buy another CNC. and at 78 yo not sure I want to do that. Have to admit it would be real cool to have a CNC. Ron USCG RET

[@HamiltonDilbeck]

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[@jweskimo]

Hello Hamilton, do you have any way to identify that you pushed me over the edge with one infinity? Would like to give credit where it is due. Jeff

[@jenene.82]

Came for the CNC review. Stayed for the creative greenscreen setup.

[@nightshiftwoodworks4244]

I cant wait to order one. Was hoping to on release but the wife put a stop to that LOL, Building a new shop and buying weekend a car in the last 2 years was enough for her. I have been running my woodworker since the original release! After I didn't get the OK I decided to upgrade to the journeyman. Coming from a shapeoko years ago. The onefinity is the best bang for buck. Super rigid and fast. The masso takes care of all complaints I had with the original.

[@jimmieplaisted6858]

Thank you for making videos like this...im getting into CNC and this helped

[@JayBergCustoms]

I've got the PWNCNC 80mm 120v water cooled spindle for my journeyman. If nothing else, I worry so much less about the bit dropping :) I have yet to try any 1/2" bits, don't have the nerve yet.

[@chevyguy6510]

I am adding this to my woodworking hobby. Just found your channel. Great channel!!

[@srmsrm3676]

Excellent review. Your honesty and candid evaluation is convincing. My Elite Woodworker with the folding legs will be on order soon. The vertical storage capability was an absolute for my shop, Shadie Woods LLC.

[@alexreid4131]

Love your channel buddy and really appreciate the amount of work, effort and detail you put into your videos. Very impressive. Definitely deserve to see a lot more growth in the months and years ahead. Keep on keepin’ on 👍

[@HamiltonDilbeck]

Thanks a ton!

[@thomasklein2043]

I absolutely love your honesty when talking about CNC's I am in the process of buying a CNC. I am from Europe and for some time I was close to buy a Stepcraft M1000 but then all of a sudden I saw videos about Onefinity. It is absolutely stunning what they came up with. I am just blown away. The reason why I have not ordered one yet is because of shipment costs and in case of warranty issues or problems. Sending it back and forward would cost a lot of money! In your process of finding a CNC was Stepcraft ever an option? Keep continuing these good KZbin videos. It’s a pleasure to follow you!

[@HamiltonDilbeck]

I bet that shipping is a lot, its hefty! I personally never looked into Stepcraft myself.

[@makingcookingfixing]

I am in Europe as well, and it's a pity to be paying not only the shipping but also the import duty, I'd wish there's a EU warehouse for this.

[@britneyjohnson9624]

Loved all the info. Spot on🔥. Love seeing the reviews and hearing tips n tricks. I have the journeyman as well and it has been a wonderful machine. I almost bought a shepoko until I read about OF. So happy I did. Again, wonderful video.🔥🔥

[@Scott60077]

Thanks for the video and great info. Can you talk to the level of support and integrated software like Shapeoko has? I am new and in the market. Thanks.

[@timothypropst238]

I had the same thing happen the other day on my OneFinity. The only problem I had is it lost its XY and Z zero. I used the touch plate to re zero all three and it did a fair job finishing the project. Now I have a UPS on both my OneFinity and my VFD.

[@poepflater]

Lol good video, we have "load shedding" which is basically 2 to 4 hours of blackout at a few scheduled blocks during the day (there is this whole roster and levels and stuff which means the times change all the time).

[@poepflater]

For sale, lightly used CNC/chair!

[@saschacontes2305]

Thanks for your honest review. What about mounting your camera on the cnc/table - at least everything is shaking in the same way :)

[@bestyoutubernonegraternumber1]

You put your hand right on the spindle on the green screen several times & I jumped because you were putting your hand near the spindle lol

[@jonathanhahka9939]

Good video, however, you offer opinions for your setup and not necessarily for other setups. For example, if you are in a garage, you need to stay quiet for your neighbors and an air cooled spindle is much louder than a water cooled spindle. Also, a spindle is better for business and a dewalt router will work for hobbyists.

[@bubba6945]

have had the makita about 6 months and went thru 1 set of brushes and just got the makita router back from the manufacturer warranty as the field and armeture fried. soi id go spindle

[@b3owu1f]

Man I want this setup WITH the ATC so bad. By the time I can finally get one will hopefully see the ATC option and info on how to just buy it and get it all working. :) Awesome review!

[@James01520]

My 1F-4Man arrives in about 6-7 weeks if they stay on schedule. I bought the 1F because of your original videos.

[@Tequillaverner]

Does this cut 18ga cold rolled sheets?

[@espressomatic]

A CNC without a Spindle is like a car with an ON/OFF switch in place of the accelerator pedal. It works, but.... IMO, for the Elite level machines, QCW, Spindle and Stiffy should be considered mandatory/standard equipment. Moving beyond the 1F one is probably going to look at full-steel welded and larger format. The need for that really depends on what you're making.

[@amipow]

I saw my two stickers! Most exciting thing to happen this month 😂

[@OnefinityCNC]

Great video! Everyone should have a CNC and open up the posibilites!

[@ujaked2]

Add some diagonal cross bars to your base to strengthen it and reduce the movement.

[@GyWO10]

Sorry for taking so long to watch this, but great content!!! I like how you took the time to break down all the details of this machine. 💯👊🏽😎

[@robthewaywardwoodworker9956]

One billion... yeah, I can see it. I just added one more. You're welcome. LOL Great video. Love the honest opinion. Been looking at CNC's for months now. This is excellent info.

[@buckw65]

Really enjoyed how well you explain things through the video

[@ronhansen7717]

Love your channel and your laid back attitude. I looked over many machines and the Onefinity was on top. Shapeoko was out of the running along with several others because they are belt-driven. However, after a lot of research, I wound up buying a Longmill II 30x48 CNC machine from Scienci Labs. They are a great company in Canada. It's very similar to the Onefinity, but costs a lot less. I use the Makita router currently with Vectric vCarve Pro, gSender and a dedicated computer along with a lot of optional equipment. I'm into the whole thing for around $3000 (Vectric vCarve Pro is $699 alone).

[@lavsolutionsevent]

I bought the original Longmill 30x30 in 2020 during the pandemic to earn money when I was out of work. Very solid machine and still working great today!

[@josephduffy5544]

Longmill is a good choice too

[@TwoMooseDesign]

😂😂 it’s a mighty fine bucket

[@HamiltonDilbeck]

So Elite, so pro.

[@ScoobySnackOG]

Two moose design is the reason I bought a onefinity in the first place! I love this thing. The spindle would be so nice to stop the drifting with the makita router rpm’s but other then this no complaints!

[@TwoMooseDesign]

@@ScoobySnackOG spindle upgrade is great! makita is fine but can be a little annoying lol

[@JohnColgan.]

Your restart lost power process works on most home/hobby GRBL machines including my favourite Genmitsu & FoxAlien CNCs

[@craigtpat]

Hamilton, They make a chip cover that may work for you concerning the ball screws. See this product spiral steel tape protection for ball screws

[@CycleverseGames]

I just purchased a competitor CNC because the 18-20 week shipping time was just too long.

[@getfastfish5020]

To clarify the controller it comes with is not the same masso g3 controller sold on the masso website. It only has 4 connectors instead of 6 making a 4th axis such as a lathe or any other upgrades unusable.

[@mikeyfreshfarms5917]

Wasnt planning to sub until you mentioned the goal of 1 bill. Awesome video and please keep growing

[@JohnBodoni]

You need a t-shirt that says "Mr. Transparency". Seriously.

[@JBGTHETHIRD]

They should make a CNC sander. Lol love your videos. I’m in the beginning stages of my wood working. CNCs are definitely out of the question for me right now. But yeah a CNC sander would be awesome right? Lol

[@denisbeaudry5396]

Really value your professional opinion on CNC and honest reviews no matter the circumstances, hoping to one day be able to add a CNC to my small woodworking business and I will benefit from all the info you deliver if that opportunity ever arises. Must be cool to be a Beta tester. Keep up great videos and you will hit 100k in no time.

[@laurac4562]

keep teaching, mine suppose to be here Wednesday

[@70newlife]

In india you get full scale 5 feet by 8 feet CNC machine with 5 hp power requirement. Powerful spindles. Chinese or local with Chinese parts. They weighs a few tons . Costs equivalent of $7-8K .

[@chrisr1241]

Nice idea with the greenscreen pip. Very nice video🎉

[@bryanknitter8858]

I run my Shapeoko 4 XXL at 475 ipm when surfacing the wasteboard...I know the older machines were capped at 200, but at least with the 4 I have, it'll go higher.

[@johnread7404]

I think he was specifically referencing the 5 Pro which is this machines main competition.

[@decompsd]

@@johnread7404 pricewise it seems like the HDM would be the competition which is a whole different level of machine I think. Compared to the normal shapeoko.

[@randysonnicksen9475]

Great video! I appreciate your transparency and neutrality with regard to your opinions. I would love to buy this machine, but am worried because I don't have a lot of room in my shop. I saw that Onefinity doesn't recommend this unit for vertical mounting. Any guesses as to what the limiting factor is? X axis? Y axis? Wondering if some form of counter-balance system could resolve the issue, like a garage door opener spring system. Low inertia, so that it didn't adversely affect the accel rates.

[@peimolly-ll6zk]

How big is your studio and the panels that are processed

[@RobertPerez-ym1yd]

would you make a mft top 20mm holes on 96mm centers 2x4 3/4 mdf

[@Miter5TrimCarpentry]

Have you taken a look at the new Altmill made by Seinci Labs? If yes, does it compare to the Onefinity elite? Thanks in advance as would like to hear your thoughts in it.

[@user-jr1xy1xq6e]

Great video! I have a belt drive workbee bit old now I recently added a Masso Touch which works great! Wanted to up grade to the elite series and keep my Masso but unfortunately Onefinity won't let me buy their machine without their Masso Touch! I cant even buy parts to build their machine! What a Pity! Keep up the interesting channel! Cheers

[@T0tenkampf]

yeah i understand why they don't sell parts but I wish that they did, I have access to everything to build the gantry and would love to just buy a kit with just the MASSO, Z carriage, and steppers.

[@espressomatic]

Shipping on the 1F is at least $300. The Touch plate (which they call probe) is just under $100 itself. The PWNCNC watercooled spindle is just over $1100 with shipping and its required cooling system and the better cool connectors ($70 of that). $6100 + tax is a more realistic starting point.

[@williamthrasher8442]

Just completed to purchase order for everything you mentioned, with all upgrades for the 2.2kw water cooler spindle from PwnCNC. With all upgrades for water cooling system and shipping the cost is $1178.6o. The Onefinity Elite Forman with the touch plate, stiffy, and leveling system plus $395 for shipping to Oregon is $4907.38. Grand total is $6086.38. There is no sales tax in where I live so I avoided about $563 in sales tax based upon where I used to live in CA.

[@RockhollowCNCServices]

Hamilton. I love your videos and information and your presentation. “Here’s my opinion. Love or not “. Id love to see more info on where or to whom you sell products too? Without hurting yourself of course

[@thetreyway]

Is the surgical tube link in the description still the best option for water cooled spindle supply and return? Thanks!

[@bravomalice7238]

Bro. You need to be selling that whole clamp down kit with the board to hang them in 😅

[@andrewbrown8148]

Great review and YES, you are definitely allowed to have an opinion. I've been comparing CNC machines in figuring out which one is for me and I was immediately struck by the OneFinity's apparent quality upon first seeing it. I'm still "CNC-less" at this point, but I've watched many, many videos to continue my comparison education. When I get to the point where I can justify a CNC for my own shop, it will definitely be a OneFinity, so I really appreciate the info in this video. Stopping here so I can smash the subscribe button~!

[@misohlavati]

Usually when you place some crazy feedrate the software or the controller just selects the maximum thah you can go. That what you have there is 300 ipm maybe 400 ipm at best. I have a large cnc where maximum is 700ipm and that is some crazy speed.

[@shrimpinpat]

Now to woodwork my way to convincing my wife to let me buy one lol

[@1QKGLH]

$6K for a hobby machine?!?!

[@mcfixit66_yt77]

If you want a really good cheap machine get a longmill that are awesome for the price

[@dannydecanhas3743]

Looks like a 4x4 foot cnc. There’s smaller cheaper versions. But if you want to go big it will cost more

[@1QKGLH]

@@dannydecanhas3743 Yeah, that's a good size, but most hobbiests can't drop 6K for a hobby.

[@Aerogrow]

Heh; saved me a google search for price.

[@Overit5000]

$4k*

[@tmuka]

I wonder, did running the spindle at 50rpm generate much heat? I know my HY2.2kW water cooled spindle manual says the min is 7000rpm. I presume that's because with a 2 pole spindle it looses a lot of efficiency slower than that. The VFD comes programmed with minimums for that reason.

[@lukeangel6446]

Hi great video thanks for posting... Can Set this up to run on a 4x 8 piece of plywood?

[@bearsstuff]

I'm on the fence ordering one of these. I need to cut 1/8" acrylic (clear). And a CO2 laser with a 48"x48" working area is far more expensive than this. I'm not sure if the laser would be faster or have a better finish, for the cost difference. The 4-4.5 month wait has me apprehensive to order one. Really great to see you get one, and definitely looks like an amazing machine. Was thinking the other day I hadn't seen a video from you, so glad to see a new video. Looking forward to all things you do with the new machine.

[@joshuasmith5613]

You should mount the Elk Horns above the OF cnc machine!! Great video..

[@bubba6945]

my cnc from 1f and it cuts not so well. ovals for circles .050 out of round and i contacted support and they repied thats fine for a hobby machine and will not help fix it under warranty. kinda sucks

[@berkemrealtas4854]

I have only 1 question for this machine. İs the spindle motor power enough to machine steel ? I know it can machine aluminum but how about cast iron and steel ?

[@tanner6112]

Quality video, and quality review as always Hamilton. Thanks for the information and the non-biased look at the elite. I hope they make an upgrade available in the next year or so, I would love to upgrade my x-50 considering everything I've seen here.

[@skallinator]

Maybe the table can be reinforced with a sheet of wood on the second level (sitting from left to right on front to back table leg supports)?

[@roughlyEnforcing]

this helped ! thanks ordering it .

[@Devin82m]

Thanks for sharing, this helped a LOT!

[@bubba6945]

id like to see some contests. traditional woodworking tools vs cnc. itd be interesting

[@JamesGoddard-i7s]

You can “start from line” on a £500 machine just use UGS not the shoddy control boxes

[@xyzspec82]

I am a DIY guy, and built my own CNC. But I gotta say, that I really like ONEFINITY design and would probably be the only one I buy. It just looks so good. Would be good to see a stronger Z axis though... Cool review🤞🏻

[@jonr6540]

as a very new cnc learner could you explain why changing the rpm mid cut is helpful if you do not have ATC? I could understand needing to change rpm for different tooling but not clear on the advantage if you have to change the tool manually. Maybe like deep boring cuts or something?

[@NeilBlanchard]

I am considering a CNC machine to cut flat packs for my speaker designs. A question about how I would go from CAD / 3D modeling program to cutting a piece - how the data of the "finished" piece should end up, if input into the machine? How much of the actual cutting process is "automated" vs modified as you see how it goes vs having to "manually" telling the machine how you want it done? I am thinking that I would cut the panels on a table saw, and then cut rabbets and grooves, etc - so the waste is minimized (saw kerf vs bit size) AND the table size can be much smaller. I would be mainly working with Baltic birch and my local supplier (Boulter Plywood in Medford MA) can do square cuts for just $1.50 each. And when I would do MDF, I do not want to be handling full sheets, anyway. Oh and less dust. I am looking forward to your video on dust collection. Getting the hose on the cutter set up; and what is needed for the collector/vacuum are key, I'm sure. Looking at the OneFinity website, I am slightly confused about how to get the spindle (with air cooling?) vs the Makita router. I have the battery version of the Makita, and I know it might not be up to cutting a 12mm deep cut at any reasonable speed. I will watch your other videos and look for things like setting up and indexing, etc. EDIT: I own a PhlatBoyz PhlatPrinter 3 and from that experience, I am pretty sure I want the closed loop system! The accuracy you gain from this, I think is critical.

[@th3oryO]

I'd argue that the Sienci longmill is a much better bang for the buck than a Shapeoko, but they're in different categories really as far as price goes. Looks like an awesome machine, I'm looking for a longer unit unfortunately so it doesn't quite fit my needs.

[@jtcmlt1]

Thanks for the review.

[@zanepaxton7452]

I’m less interested in the nuts and bolts on the technical aspects of this machine. Please list (bullet points or summary) the big-picture reasons to invest in one? What does this do? Can this start to replace all the usual wood shop tasks like ripping, cross-cutting, planing, jointing, making all manner of joinery, cutting out parts? Etc. Or is this doing something new like just decorative carving?

[@jkrut]

I'm looking for a machine for my art students at a community college. Due to us not having all that huge of a budget I was looking at the Pro Foreman vs the Elite. Have you any input in regard to that machine? I've got a Bob's at home that works well for what I need, but I think I need something a bit beefier for school use. I'd also like to keep with the spindle due to noise, being able to program in specific rpm, etc. I'm most familiar with V-Carve Pro and we'd likely use that software. we also do modeling and CAM output at times with Fusion360. Anyway, any info you have would be great. Thanks!

[@frijoli9579]

1:17 standard feature on most seasoned equipment.

[@MS-gn4gl]

Is there any option to get longer rails for 96x48 machine to do full standard sheet goods?

[@st0mper121]

I love my OnefinityCNC, was part of the kickstarter but i wish i would have waited for this one. the power issue has hit me more then once... (loss of power) nothing bad from onefinity end of things. Just kinda sucks no upgrade path for me.

[@seanmurphy9472]

Can this be used to engrave concrete as a portable setup ? Has anyone done that before?

[@tri-forceblades3123]

Excellent video You definitely have one more subscriber with me.

[@mdavisyates]

Just so you know it's pretty much the same sequence in Mach3 should you lose power. Or panic pull your power cord instead of hitting e-stop to keep the machine from crashing...

[@brianbone]

Maybe someone has already asked this, but what is the distance from front inside bolt hole to back inside bolt hole on the Y rail? @HamiltonDilbeck

[@user-gi4rw7uy1w]

What type of table are you using Foreman? Can you post a picture? I have ordered a Foreman and am getting ready to buil a table. A little worried about stabilty of a table that could be 70" x 70". Thanks!

[@dougmccracken4833]

How do you get to Beta test a Cnc? I’ve got Cnc machines how do I beta test one?

[@gsrunion]

I have seen the argument that the 1F Elite Foreman, when compared to the Shapeoko 5 Pro, is less rigid due to tubular rails and lack of integrated table structure being inferior to rectangular extrusions and structural table. What say folks?

[@B.A.Bassangler]

Hi, enjoying the videos. I have freed up space for up to a 4x4 footprint and time to get serious! Sorry for the Newb tech question, but I trust you better than the Geek Squad...Can I design and program from a PC or Mac laptop (in my house), and plug'n'play to the Onefinity touchscreen? (also no wi-fi in my shop)

[@timhaddox]

That looks like an impressive machine. But if looking at spending 7k on a build then I think I'd rather try come up with the extra bit to get a shopsabre 23.

[@Cadence_MFG]

Great Job Hamilton!

[@T0tenkampf]

Great overview, really sold me on this tool. Onefinity looks to be really upper level light industrial that is still priced for prosumer...kinda like Langmuir. PWM doesn't recommend any metalworking with this spindle, how do you feel about its potential for light aluminum work?

[@humanhuman8199]

Nice T-shirt