Making a Kitchen on a Hobby-level CNC Router

[@AB-pb8oo]

You urgently need a steam barrier on the underside of the countertop where it is placed over a dishwasher. If you don't have, the vapor will gradually ruin the plywood. The dishwasher install kit usually includes a sheet of adhesive, for the best results first paint the underside and then apply the adhesive.

[@Aribabox]

Thank you for the recommendation! Will get that fixed as soon as possible.

[@nalgas5569]

Thank you for that advice I just installed one in my home and never had the slightest idea of that before

[@peterheinzo515]

yes my parents cabinets warped from the steam. was a very expensive thing to fix!

[@peterlustig4875]

Hi, do you know if newer Dishwashers has the same problem with steam? Last time I changed my Dishwasher and I could not remember that there has been any steam barrier. Maybe I should add also one.

[@DiakosDelvin]

@@peterlustig4875 Just opening the washer after a cycle will have steam flow up, and if you've it recessed under a tabletop the steam will move under, even worse with modern ones that pop open a little by themselves.

[@maximazur4854]

Satisfaction of making it yourself is priceless! You definitely need a bigger CNC with all the creativity you have!

[@Aribabox]

Thank you! Can't argue with that - the sense of accomplishment does feel great. A bigger CNC would open up more possibilities. Perhaps in the future, we acquire a bigger one.

[@jimhe5033]

@@Aribaboxinteresting with all your beautiful ideas,just wondering what brand of your CNC is.thank you

[@makingcookingfixing]

Onefinity Journeyman Pro@@jimhe5033

[@Aribabox]

@@jimhe5033 we have the Onefinty CNC router

[@thezfunk]

After watching Modustrial here in KZbin do CNC cabinets and now you guys, I am convinced this is the best way to do it now.

[@SealFredy5]

Using more traditional methods like a table saw, track saw, and nailer is way quicker. There's a reason professionals don't use a CNC. Well, they would for certain parts of a job, but an accurate table saw will cut your big panels in a fraction the time a CNC takes.

[@omaversteher1]

​@@SealFredy5 This. Just use the CNC for the hinges and screw holes. You can use the same program for the whole build. Will defenitely safe hours of work.

[@kdcustomwoodworking]

No , its because ever push a sheets through a table saw all day ? My shop would not be open for the last 16 years without the CNC .@@SealFredy5

[@KorevaarAnne]

@@SealFredy5yea i was thinking the same thing. I’m a professional cabinet builder and we use the cnc only for complex parts and drilling holes. I think the joints are a cool detail but in my opinion it’s way overkill but if you have the time it’s a cool concept.

[@BalugaWhale37]

I'd love to hear how many hours it took to design the cabinets, cut the cabinets, finish and install the cabinets. Your labor is a major part of the total cost. Thanks for all the other cost itemizations and the excellent narration.

[@ZaasKenar]

A good way to estimate labor cost is to assume it costs as much as the materials - 2400 euro. Which makes the total cost of the kitchen around 5000 euros - as much as the quote for the custom kitchen from the professionals.

[@Aribabox]

It took us around 100 to 120 hours to make the kitchen. Usually, the most expensive part of any project is the labor, so making projects like these during the weekends or evenings can save quite a lot of money.

[@mister.kosmos]

@@Aribabox if you dont want to spend your free time with your family and friends then yes :D

[@DmitriyLaktyushkin]

@@ZaasKenar thats a really bad way of estimating anything. I spend pennies on materials as a software dev, my labour is still very expensive. With 120 hours of skilled carpenter labour you are looking at at least 3000k euros, never mind that 2 people were involved.

[@thardyryll]

Although the unusual exposed plywood edges make these cabinets look like garage cabinets, they should be sturdy. And, as has been pointed out, the value of labor was not added to the cost. If you want to really “save” money, do all your own Sheetrock work. The materials are extremely cheap but the labor, not to mention the necessary skill, is considerable.

[@Peteruspl]

I've made 2 kitchens myself for 2 different apartments. You don't need CNC for it, nor any serious woodworking skills, but a 3d model like you did was also exceptionally useful for me. A shop that sells boards/countertops/fronts will cut everything and even drill some openings at very reasonable prices. So really you need to design it well, measure, draw all elements in CAD or similar and assemble. I don't have exact figures for total cost vs quote but it was about 30% of what I'd have to pay for someone to do it and it took a couple days of work each time.

[@Aribabox]

Thank you for sharing your experience. It's true - most material suppliers can make the parts for you for very good prices. Many cabinet makers use the same approach as you mentioned and ask for more than 3000$ for designing and assembling the kitchen furniture.

[@ristekostadinov2820]

My parents ordered bunch of custom made particle board furniture from people who do it this way, buying the everything pre-cut and just screwing everything at your place. My parents did make sure to buy the highest quality particle board they offer and as of now it lasted 14 years which is not bad at all.

[@KorevaarAnne]

@@Aribaboxim quite curious how much time you spend on this entire project from drawing to the final product and installation? I mean if you spend more than 50 hours and they charge you 60€ an hour it wouldn’t be that bad if they charge you 3000€ for making the kitchen if you factor in the cost for maintaining the machines power usage and so on? I mean doing it yourself is 9 out of 10 times cheaper because you don’t need to pay your self 😅

[@Aribabox]

@@KorevaarAnne From start to finish we spent a little more than 100 hours on the project. Where we are from, most companies would charge you at least 3000€ just for designing and assembling the kitchen plus materials. Then they would order all the cabinet parts from the particle board suppliers already cut, and drilled, with the edges glued, and pay them around 500€ for the work. So, knowing how the kitchen business works, we thought we could do better.

[@KorevaarAnne]

@@Aribabox oke I understand. If you have the machines and time than this is the better option 👍. 3000 € for just the design is a bit steep indeed. 😅

[@Esper320]

I installed a lot of high end kitchens working with a luxury contractor in Manhattan, we partnered with a lot of shops across America, Europe and Asia to make some really expensive single slab cabinets out of exotics. After material and our labor it could end up being much closer to 250K for a kitchen about twice that size given that US appliances are much larger. All that to say, this is very impressive. Ive been in some of those shops with all sorts of CNC machinery and automation to build these but there is something to be said of the simplicity and look of this. Not to mention doing it yourself for cheaper than what particle board Chinese cabinetry ends up costing That said you definitely need a vapor barrier underneath, id take that top off an hit it with some latex paint and find a dishwasher vapor barrier kit to go along with it.

[@Aribabox]

Thank you for sharing your extensive experience and insights! It's truly fascinating to hear about your work with luxury kitchens. We're thrilled that you find our project impressive. Your advice about adding a vapor barrier underneath and painting the top is invaluable-we'll definitely look into that to ensure the durability and longevity of the build. Thanks again for taking the time to share your thoughts!

[@robthewaywardwoodworker9956]

Lots of attention to detail. Well done. Great looking kitchen, such a major upgrade from the old one!

[@wtfbbqbye]

As someone who has experience doing custom shaker style kitchen cabinets in the past, what you have done is harder to pull off than the common method of creating cabinets using rabbet joints etc. I personally like the look of maple/walnut for the face stiles and rails this adds significantly to the cost although baltic birch plywood can be just as expensive and keeps going up in price. A plywood countertop with lacquer also seems like a risky choice, laminate countertop would be a lot more resistant to stains and dents. Very interesting use of the CNC to create very tight tolerances seems like you had zero issues with fitting the panels together. Impressive.

[@thorshuatus]

Dude, the way you created a dovetail locking cabinet carcass was awesome and makes the build per cabinet so easy. Just click together and screw. Awesome work!

[@ProjectGreenfieldSolutions]

Love the efficiency of the CNC and how you overcome the challenges! "My joy wasn't short lived" haha. Same me too buddy

[@Aribabox]

Thank you! Yes, there is nothing better than sanding! 😅

[@abad_gtr1123]

wow that turned out amazing! love the look of the raw birch plywood...just something industrial/modern about it.

[@Aribabox]

Thank you! Glad you like it. The raw birch plywood really nails that industrial/modern feel. Appreciate your comment!

[@cyberhikerdd]

Excellent use of the CNC as a tool. Great build!

[@Aribabox]

Thank you!

[@myounges]

Not sure if you did it but consider making a groove under the counter top edge so that if liquids spill they will drip to the floor and not run in the drawers. I learned this the hard way. Great job but the way!

[@Aribabox]

Thank you for the valuable tip! Will have to update the countertop.

[@TheCog1983]

You're a good man for helping your bother out with his cabinetry. Huge savings.

[@stefanw8203]

Thank you for sharing this great work. And sharing the prices is wonderful. Thumbs up!

[@temjiu9915]

I've always been fascinated by the look of finished plywood (naked plywood). never even thought about doing a kitchen that way! Looks amazing! great job on the design and build. your "error" in the countertop actually looks like an interesting design addition instead of a fix. nice job, hope your brother has many years of good memories in this kitchen! Also, I think that it would be good to note the cost of the CNC machine. Not that it's mandatory, but for someone who's looking at doing the same may not have the CNC. However, I think you'll be able to afford a very nice CNC machine with the savings you got from the kitchen!

[@Aribabox]

Thank you for your input and the compliments. Yes, there is something appealing about having the plywood surfaces exposed and the kitchen build was a great opportunity to incorporate that. The CNC cost would have been a good point to talk about in the video - considering the quotation we got from the kitchen companies and the actual cost - you could get a quite good hobby-level CNC router with the money saved.

[@JMC8415]

Makes me want to do this for my garage cabinets

[@chakra6666]

the narration was incredible, very clear and information-dense.

[@akiraic]

good video indeed, but it's clickbait. He said he saved 4000 on the thumbnail, but he has at least triple that amount worth of equipment in order to accomplish that.

[@officerdoofy4184]

Great creativity and problem solving, surely we're watching an engineer apply their mind to furniture/cabinet making. This would make future projects a breeze.

[@Sugar3Glider]

Ive been building 3D wooden puzzles... Who knew they came in life-size models?

[@DevonFrohne]

I Love the look and function of it. Far superior to store bought imo. Great work!

[@Aribabox]

Thank you! Glad you like the result!

[@bengacz]

that black space between edges look really nice

[@Erik_MN]

I've built speaker stands on my shapeoko 3 using a similar process. I'm building a house and I really like the design & operation of your cabinets. Might do something very similar for my kitchen! Thanks for the video!

[@jlg23us]

That is a large investment of time, very cool project

[@toG-i9i]

Nothing like having a brother with ocd.great job bro!

[@robert_arrow]

Thank you for sharing. It's another great project. It would be awesome if you could also add to the package with DXF files that you are selling the f3d file so we could see the steps in the Fusion timeline and tools with speed/feed that you used. That would allow us, another hobbyists to make a modifications ourselves and customize the product for our kitchen dimensions and capacity of our own CNC router.

[@Aribabox]

Thank you for the compliments and the feedback. We see your point on the F360 files - being able to see the project timeline and the tool info would add value to the project. However, to protect our design rights, we have decided not to share the original project files and offer free adjustments to the designs to match your material thicknesses and overall cabinet dimensions to fit within your kitchen.

[@chargv]

Good point, Robert. To be honest, this prevents me from buying a project like that. It is already a huge load of work, and to add another complication, it actually holds me back from trying it.

[@BleughBleugh]

Thankyou for putting this up. Have been tempted to upgrade our kitchen - now I may be able to convince my wife to DIY and buy a CNC (which I really want to make an arcade machine anyway!)

[@luchoperez3472]

Great work! Thank you for sharing!

[@Aribabox]

Thanks for watching!

[@Mrsuchoj]

Well done boy's well done!!

[@nahuel3256]

Those are some gorgeous big tiles

[@paulsui2008]

Well done boys, I would love to learn more about the "hobby Level CNC Router", is set up in such an efficient way with general components. And how the system works. Cheers

[@Aribabox]

Thank you! Here you can learn more about the CNC machine we used to build this project - bit.ly/3vcY5AG

[@paulsui2008]

Much Appreciated@@Aribabox

[@duras427]

Best video on youtube. In every sense.

[@Eener1000]

I am remodeling my kitchen and did kinda what you did. But for the fronts I am using waterproof and 100% through colored mdf. So I just got it in the color I want and just apply a clear coat and it looks more interesting then painted or wrapped stuff. I also re-used a lot of my old kitchens' hardware like sliders and the adjustable feet which made leveling everything for the countertop very easy since neither my floor nor my walls are perfect.

[@Aribabox]

Thank you for sharing your experience. The colored MDF door panels sound like a great idea. We've seen a couple of kitchens like that - they look really nice.

[@systemkleinkind]

Wow, this is so cool! I would definitely pay for something like this

[@jameslong1644]

Exactly what I want to build for my garage apartment.

[@mandrakejake]

Nice build! I did a similar job a while back and I wish I had invested in a CNC router.

[@stephaneislistening6103]

I wish I were your neighbour and would come to watch, help and learn ! Bravo and thanks !

[@Aribabox]

Well, give us a call when you are in town. Thanks for watching!

[@homehackshowtos]

Wow I did the same thing on an open builds lead 1515 CNC. Crazy seeing that you did the same thing?!

[@MikeStavola]

I like this. I might do something similar for shop cabinetry.

[@TheDoosh79]

16:36 Supervisor checking your work is up to standard

[@kyleolsen3305]

inspiration level content right here. I love this.

[@Kenshiro7954]

What an amazing project, congrats for your work !

[@Aribabox]

Thank you very much!

[@Hnkka]

Amazing project! I like the idea in my mind that you can use any material/kind of wood for this or similar things. Kitchen is nice

[@simonwyzgala7828]

Hi I really like your video! To make sure left over dust doesn't fall from one board onto the next on your rack I suggest to always start on the top while stacking up your boards! Cheers

[@Aribabox]

Thank you for the great advice! Stacking the parts in the paint rack that way makes a lot of sense.

[@Aldekein]

This is cool! And a great result, looks like a premium build.

[@Rok_Satanas]

In "proffesional" kitchens they add sacrificial pieces next to the wall around 5-10cm on each side, which the installer screws into the cabinet cuts of the excess and caucks the cut side to the wall to make it look good. although it's a bit of waste of volume from your cabinets, makes things way easier to install and design. For anyone thinking about making something similar. Otherwise great project, I wanted to make the kitchen in my moms house for years.

[@Aribabox]

Thank you for your input and valuable feedback. Making a couple of sacrificial pieces to better fit the cabinets in place makes a lot of sense, and would have sped things up when installing the kitchen.

[@michellebwilson2610]

Fabulous work. Great design. Well done.

[@BaryonicMatter-dd8ig]

Honestly, this is exactly what I would love to be able to do or at least have someone I could order something like this from. Needless to say - instant subscribe!

[@simonpetermurrell]

Great project! You guys are so talented!

[@planesandbikes7353]

Very unique and inventive approach to making an entire kitchen! Hobby CNC router looks like a ton of fun to create with, maybe I will try it some day. The only criticisms I have are fairly trivial - the exposed plywood edges could have been capped for a cleaner look, but that is purely subjective. Also most folks would be able to make this kitchen more easily with a track saw and pocket screw system for less complexity, but your box joints will undoubtedly be stronger long term. Congratz on the kitchen and fun video

[@Aribabox]

Thank you for your feedback and our input. Perhaps the kitchen cabinets would have been easier to make using a track saw - it would save some time on the CNC work. When it comes to the exposed plywood edges - we left them as a nice design detail.

[@Scott_Liu_Jr]

Wow very well done video. Thank you for sharing.

[@Aribabox]

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!

[@FearsomeWarrior]

Best helper. Good dog.

[@psypsy6869]

Какой молодец. Всё прекрасно. Удачи в творчестве!

[@Aribabox]

большое спасибо!

[@twistedl2009]

Brilliant work! Enjoyed watching this.

[@plavedan4269]

incredible build! definitely looks like a CNC is going on my wish list once I complete studying CAD design

[@OrganicGreens]

You can learn the basics of SketchUp or fusion 360 in e few hours.

[@loekvanbentum3907]

What did you use as a finish for the countertop? i am not sure is i hear lacquer or something else. i have used lacquer on wood for a countertop and for me it doesn't work well. interested in what your results over some useage

[@Aribabox]

We used a lacquer for the countertop. The one we had was originally for outdoor use, so it's more durable. It should hold well for a couple of years. After that, it can be easily restored.

[@eldinmuller7698]

i just recently bought a used kitchen that had an oven, fridge, induction stovetop, and a dishwasher included. it has 4 hanging cabinets and 5 more under the worksurface. obviously it took some time to clean up and make it fit into my kitchen room but i bet it was less than time then you needed

[@Aribabox]

Sounds like you've got a good deal. You can rarely find used kitchen cabinets with all the appliances included, considering you might have a different kitchen size than the one the cabinets were originally made for.

[@johnsimons92]

Very very nice work. You saved a lot of money and it looks great! Earned my sub.

[@stilet44]

Отличный кухня желаю успехов в новых проектах.

[@Aribabox]

большое спасибо!

[@konstantinborus5458]

Looks nice and professional. But I personally would had go for pre-finished plywood, probably maple. And then either tape or clear finish the edges.

[@imaginative-monkey]

Very well done! 👍

[@beakytwitch7905]

Clever working !!! ❤😊

[@vikramkhaira7070able]

Great work… keep up!!!

[@peterlustig4875]

You are such a great guy, I just found your YT-Chanel and also your Website. Great Projekt and your Website is very good. So many creative designs. 👍👍 And also many of them are completely free. Maybe I should get my own CNC so I could build one of your Pinball machines. They look so great and the Design does not cost much.

[@orlanino]

fresh and original. Put something like a "buy me a coffee" link.

[@yuandondon]

love it! Now I have to buy a CNC machine. ❤

[@the_dad_library]

amazing job!!

[@design8studio]

Great job on both the remodel and the video work!

[@Aribabox]

Thank you! Glad you like the result.

[@enriqueleft1785]

THIS IS AWESOME

[@marvelllahens982]

Awesome! What CNC do you have?

[@Aribabox]

Thank you! We have the Onefinity Journeyman CNC

[@MVargabass]

Nice job. Always leave a gap between an outside wall and your cabinets to leave space for air to circulate. If they’re too close your whole wall is gonna get moldy.

[@Aribabox]

Thank you for your feedback and valuable input. There is a 13 - 15 mm gap between the cabinet back panels and the walls. It should be enough to prevent the mold from forming.

[@AdamBechtol]

Nice, thanks for sharing.

[@frederickkwek3772]

Hi ....I'm really impressed with your determination and work....very nice video to watch ...may I know where did you buy the CNC router? What's the cost? I also want to get one.

[@Aribabox]

Thank you for the compliments and thank you for watching! Sure, we have the Onefinity Journeyman CNC equipped with Makita palm router - total costs ~ 3500 USD

[@jason9i6]

Awesome job! I love how the cabinets turned out. I hope to be able to do the same thing one day on my house/rental. What CNC machine and software did you use?

[@John...44...]

Great project and a great finish! Amazing what you can do with a cnc machine and a lot of graft

[@N1ghtR1der666]

congrats, great work

[@feldmanis112]

Lielisks video! Lieliska ideja! Malači!🎉

[@rryybass]

Now that is what I call a lovely kitchen, well made and presented, well done, wish you were in the United Kingdom, I would pay you to make mine

[@mikeking7219]

great job guys keep up the amazing work

[@Aribabox]

Thank you!

[@Oho159]

awsome build

[@sergeyalekseenko6456]

Отличная работа!

[@matiasponce2977]

Nice work! What program did you use to create those 3D models? I love the results!

[@amazingAkuma]

He mentions Fusion 360, this is a autodesk product

[@antonm8719]

Titanic effort and well done! 21:04 - do the windows open or just recline?

[@Aribabox]

Thank you! Yes, the windows are tilt-only.

[@I_Like_3D]

Amazing, can you share what CNC are you using and review it?

[@Aribabox]

We have the Onefinity Journeyman CNC. There are already a bunch of good review videos on KZbin.

[@albia74]

What kind of CNC did you use? What size? Can you recommend any hobby CNC?

[@JuanPerez-iu9vk]

Great work, very interesting but, I am intrigued, why did you make the cabinets in front of the window so high that you cannot open the window anymore?

[@Aribabox]

Thank you! That's a great question. The windows in the kitchen can be opened only by tilting. That allowed us to have the countertop higher than the window sill without limiting the window's functionality.

[@andryKnavs]

Great job!

[@Lordosvk]

Im profesional carpenter. I can tell this is amazing work and it looks amazing. I will be the only choice diferent color of laqour

[@GermanTopGameTV]

This is a great project. I dislike the look of plywood and would have added paint or a sufrace veneere to all visible surfaces, but I think that's personal preference. I salute you and your ingenuity to build good things that are not available on the market.

[@Aribabox]

Thank you! In this project we wanted to keep the plywood surfaces exposed. Although veneering the door panels would be a great option as well.

[@pierrex3226]

Very interesting and surprisingly cost effective ultimately! How did you figure out how to size the door and trim of the dishwasher so the door doesn't hit the trim?

[@Aribabox]

Thank you! We made the door panel according to the dimensions specified in the dishwasher user manual. When test-fitting the cabinets, we put the dishwasher in place to simulate how the doors would open relative to one of the cabinet sides. This way we could mark the door's movement and determine the angle the cover panel's edge has to have.

[@viesturssilovs377]

Amazing project! I wonder how many hours you spent on it?

[@Aribabox]

Thank you! We don't know the exact hours, but from designing to having everything installed could be approximately 100 to 120 hours.

[@olsyx5098]

@@Aribabox In my country, the minimum wage per hour is ~8 euros. Let's say 20 since there's taxes to pay for the employer, that's 2000 to 2400 just to pay people to do it, assuming the minimum wage. It's probably around 4000-5000 euros in wages, that's why it skyrockets so much. Also why they never get so precise, like you did, and they always want to stick to their modules instead of custom fitting to your kitchen. I loved the project and I may try on my own kitchen, this was not a critic, I do DIY a lot! I just try to be mindful of how much time is actually worth and the end result quality, to give a fair comparison. I think your brother ended up winning here, by a lot!

[@Aribabox]

@@olsyx5098 Your labor cost calculations look accurate. If you add a 30% profit margin on top of the total cost, the kitchen easily ends up costing 6000 to 7000 EUR. Thank you for your comment! I will take a screenshot of it so I can show it to my brother next time we go to a restaurant.😅

[@DenVeR-PRO]

Good job! Great project!)

[@beanieweenie9543]

Beautiful dachshund! I have a little black and tan female dachshund named Bean!

[@xalbert88x]

Beast!!!! Congrats!

[@Aribabox]

Thank you! 🙏🏻

[@MrTheBigNoze]

Not sure about the long-term durability of the countertop, I feel like a butcher block or stone material from the store would have been better. But I love the cabinet design and how everything interlocks together. Great work

[@Aribabox]

Thank you for your feedback and input! Yes, at this point, it's unclear how well the countertop will serve. However, we can always change it to a different one.

[@jaqummh]

Your brother was very helpful 🙏😊

[@simhoney72]

Amazing work guys ! Really nice to see these kind of job. Congratulations ! But what about the windows?

[@Aribabox]

Glad you enjoyed the project! The window is a tilt-only design, so the cabinets don't limit its functionality.

[@graveurgraveur2691]

Well done!

[@Aribabox]

Thank you! 🙏🏻

[@maurolimaok]

Very nice job.

[@Aribabox]

Thank you!

[@illusivec]

Amazing stuff mate. Only thing i'd have done differently is the countertop. Even with 3 coats of lacquer I'm not sure about it's durability. Oil based lacquer might have been better there. But if I was making it, I'd have gone for granite or some other engineered stone.

[@Aribabox]

Thank you for the feedback. We initially considered a sealed concrete countertop but opted for plywood due to the complexity and effort involved in making one. Perhaps 3 coats of finish might not be enough. Time will tell.