Hi everyone - just to preempt the comments, I had a sleeping mat inside my bivvi bag so I wasn’t just lying on a hammock. I had a sleeping mat, a bivvi AND a sleeping bag
@adamr66292 жыл бұрын
You’d probably already lost a lot of body heat, before getting into your sleeping bag, so it’s never going to warm you up entirely.
@rorydavis2 жыл бұрын
The hammock not only compresses the sleeping bag/ jacket basically nullifying the insulation but also being suspended in the air makes hammocks colder thank sleeping on the ground. They make cocoon sleeping bags for hammocks and it makes a world of difference.
@d.christianrathjens72092 жыл бұрын
I would melt 😂
@BikepackingAdventures2 жыл бұрын
I'd perhaps complicate things more and suggest a sleeping bag liner. If you look at the Sea to Summit Reactor Plus (Compact) Thermolite Liner. It claims to add 11C, I've been happy with the results so far. Personally I'd probably ditch the hammock (many trees in The Andes?) as you're off the ground you'll probably got cold due to the wind and air blowing around you. So sleeping bag, liner, bivvy bag, those pants and clothing for top half - and of course that wooly hat and socks, and quite likely gloves and snood.
@20DYNAMITE062 жыл бұрын
Maybe try an underquilt if you plan on using the hammock? Or... boil some water and put it in a nalgene water bottle and stick that down by your feet? But I suspect you may be warmer on the ground with your pad - maybe it would compress the down less?
@karlahovde2 жыл бұрын
My friend I go bike camping with uses a hammock and always has an underquilt and top quilt instead of a sleeping bag. (A sleeping bag or puffy clothing's loft get crushed under your body and stops keeping you warm.) Another tip I like is to fill a Nalgene with boiling water before bed and keep it near your feet.
@JulietElliottsChannel2 жыл бұрын
doesn't the under quilt get squashed too? I had an air mat underneath and thought it would be quite good insulation
@marccashmore99352 жыл бұрын
Quilt hangs snug under the hammock. See DDhammocks for an example. Lovely spot you chose.
@karlahovde2 жыл бұрын
@@JulietElliottsChannel Your body weight would be born by the hammock, not the underquilt, so it can remain lofty while being underneath you.
@teej0082 жыл бұрын
Snuggpack do a cocoon that goes around you and the hammock, it really works well. It doesn’t pack down that small though. It totally fills my saddle bag.
@gte717v2 жыл бұрын
@@JulietElliottsChannel The under quilt hangs under the hammock, so it's not compressed.
@velokernow36962 жыл бұрын
Having camped in the Andes, Himalayas, Atlas, Alps and in the Arctic, I highly recommend you take the puffy pants, jacket and sleeping bag with the bivvy bag and a sleep mat. It gets very cold at night in those mountains despite it being boiling hot in the day. Good luck.
@freeforester17172 жыл бұрын
With an underquilt beneath your hammock and a top quilt you’ve been much, much warmer, the insulation isn’t crushed by your body, so it keeps its loft. Hammock camping if done right is very cosy!
@marcusharrison7461 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the brilliant videos! Really appreciate it.
@lkingwell2 жыл бұрын
I grew up on these trails as a youngster. Still enjoying them today!
@paulsslightlyactivelife2 жыл бұрын
Great video Juliet - love watching the bikepacking content. I can vouch for the Mora which was my first foray into hammocks and worked a treat. Your idea for ditching the sleeping bag makes sense and there are a couple of manufacturers who make leg-only sleeping bags so you can use your existing jacket.
@ianbell56112 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. Beautiful spot. I see your friend Laura had a tarp to keep the rain off, I know you were in a bivy bag but maybe try a tarp over the hammock. Cheers
@VelcorHF2 жыл бұрын
I hammock camp a ton and a sleeping bag just isn't enough insulation for a hammock. You could bring a foam mat to sleep on in the hammock but I'd recommend a hammock under quilt for real warmth. Think of it as a sleeping back for under your hammock that holds the heat in. Your body will squish anything between you and the hammock. Without the air to retain the heat, the insulation has almost no value.
@stevengordon-head24202 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I used to do bivvying in the alps. Every item has to have more than one use. Sleeping bag was a luxury !
@teej0082 жыл бұрын
Nice, I slept on the opposite side of the valley to you on Sharp Tor a while back, beautiful spot for a sunrise. I initially went cycling for 3 days but ended up out for a week and a half :)
@doctormoonbass96162 жыл бұрын
A small suggestion: These days I always take a water bottle - at least 2L cap - boil myself some drinking water last use of the stove at camp, chuck it in the foot of my sleeping bag. No more cold feet :) and plenty of frsh water to drink in the morning.
@chrismillicent32872 жыл бұрын
Great Video....Ha - thats my patch ;-) you rode past me on Thursday, I was riding a blue Gas Gas Enduro bike. I mix it up between Gravel / Mountain / Moto - cheers Chris
@jimgonzales33662 жыл бұрын
when I was in the military we used a poncho with poncho liner. Cold weather training we used the poncho liner in our sleeping bag. You should look into the poncho liner or some call whoobie! Always enjoy your videos!
@campsite1232 жыл бұрын
Very glad your using Rab gear because they have really upped their game in the last few years design wise. Played with their Mythic sleeping bags like 400 and the new Mythic alpine and light Jackets 900fil both have amazing weight and pack size. Working big release sales in Stockholm with Rab suppliers....fun to play with new kit. Enjoy your adventures as always.
@campsite1232 жыл бұрын
Oh see your wearing the jacket......with the Hammock putting a synthic(rain)/down blanket under Hammock is what really stops heat lost....even with airmat with good R value still blanket under....I know all add weight with bike packing.
@JulietElliottsChannel2 жыл бұрын
even with an airmat?
@campsite1232 жыл бұрын
@@JulietElliottsChannel Yes you can get away with low R value on mat but that airflow under hammocks robs the heat.
@campsite1232 жыл бұрын
Oh and the best airmats for form are dimpled like Seatosummit
@marcberman56422 жыл бұрын
The only thing I will say about using puffy pants and jacket as a SB is if you get them wet during the day you have no warm SB. The puffy stuff will also get damp during the day when you wear it and be not as warm when you are sleeping. Not sure if you figured that out, writing this at the beginning of the vid. Thanks for all your vids and stuff, you are awesome.
@pton67222 жыл бұрын
lovely trip! here is my try-n-error learnings: even the fluffiest bag / jacket will compress under your body weight and insulation is gone. get a so-called ‘underquilt’ that will hang outside of the hammock to avoid compression and you will no longer out through your back…
@trazarith2 жыл бұрын
From having watched & read others experiences of using a hammock - a sleeping mat alone is unlikely to be enough insulation unless it’s a warm evening so usually requires an underquilt. Couple that with the environment you want to visit (mountainous regions can be lovely during the day but bloody freezing at night) and the kit required soon mounts up thus negating any desire to pack minimally. In the end, a good quality mat, sleeping bag & bivi may be the way to go. Ive not tried a hammock yet, want to, but fear the required extra investment may be pointless. This video has helped further my reluctance to try it 😂 but another treat to watch, thanks Juliet, keep ‘em coming!
@JulietElliottsChannel2 жыл бұрын
I had a mat, bivvy and sleeping bag inside the hammock
@Ntapia-d3q2 жыл бұрын
Hello Juliet, I suggest that if you do wild camping, here in Chile, you bring a liner, because the nights are colder than 7 degrees and if it rains before the race it will be even colder. currently there are about 2-3 degrees(Celsius) at night in the area of across Andes.
@JulietElliottsChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the tip, much appreciated
@steevoridgeline2 жыл бұрын
feet were up also in the hammock, does not help for blood supply in the lower body parts. that was great time with you again ! good luck at the race !
@shaunkirby77882 жыл бұрын
Hi, hammock camping is lovely but without an underblanket you will lose lots of heat but it is bulky. As it gets colder I tend to switch to bivvy bag as feel I dump less heat with a sleeping mat and foil under sheet to protect the bivvy bag. Also I wrap the strap once or twice around the tree and hook the clip through one of the loops...less slippage...hope that helps. Love the bubbly video
@phils83932 жыл бұрын
Hi , I really like your videos, with your big jacket and trousers inside your sleeping bag you run the risk that the stuffing is to compressed in jacket and bag due to not much room , you need the stuffing to be loose so it traps more air that your body warms up , maybe why you felt a bit cold in the night . I am a British expat and live in the alps I have been winter camping regularly here for the last 11 years and I have found that for good sleeping in winter sometime less is more . Hope that gives you a few ideas of what to maybe try out . Keep up the great videos 👍 you have inspired me to combine my main hobby of wild camping with biking . Done my first few bike packing trips this year after watching you channel
@JulietElliottsChannel2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the tips! Glad you're enjoying the biking and camping too : )
@felixjackson26702 жыл бұрын
Seems that one has to try different things and see what works,in different conditions. Rather like Autumn/Winter riding on the bike.. I know what I need to wear in most conditions on the bike..do tend to overdress a bit perhaps. A good,warm sleeping bag is key though,along with insulating under layer. Have a great quilt that hangs under the hammock as can get very chilly hanging off the floundering.
@josephineo.66102 жыл бұрын
yaaaay love this love you guys!
@JulietElliottsChannel2 жыл бұрын
Aw thanks
@checkerspotfarm39272 жыл бұрын
All of us hammock campers collectively watching, oh no she is going to be so cold! I will echo everyone else in recommending a bottom quilt underneath the hammock for insulation, but I will say that I do often pair puffy pants and a puffy vest with my top quilt to get just a bit more warmth in the shoulder seasons! I have the puffy knickers from Kari Traa plus the matching hooded vest and I absolutely adore them. I like Rab too, but this set packs down much smaller. Technically, you do better weightwise to just get a proper quilt set/sleeping bag, but then it is bulkier and like you I like the ability to have multi use items. Plus if I change into that before bed, I am not going to bed cold! If you don't want to do an underquilt, I found what actually works a treat better in a hammock than a mat is one of those silver car window shades! I stick spare clothing into any chilly spots like at my hip or under my feet. A friend of mine actually brings little down booties which I am quite envious of.
@nickfearn7772 жыл бұрын
Hi Juliet. been in the desert a few times and froze. I now use these from Joe a supper cool lad from Scotland along with puffy pant, jacket and a quilt from Mountain Hardware. Hope this helps. I will be following your dot if you have one. cheers for being cool. Nick
@Msasha27272 жыл бұрын
This was really fun to watch. I’m not sure why but I felt like I was right there with you! It looked really fun and very beautiful.
@JulietElliottsChannel2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad it was fun to watch - it was a super fun trip. My trips with Laura are always fun!
@simonstucki2 жыл бұрын
I've had the same idea with the puffy pants, haven't tested it out but it seemed like a good idea, especially in summer or in combination with a lighter sleepingbag. But I guess you would also need puffy booties for your feet.... I'm glad I'm not the only one with this idea. I think we are going to see more modular solutions like this in the future.
@Casual_BackPacking2 жыл бұрын
Ooo nice starting to get light weight camp gear
@nikhoward2 жыл бұрын
From my experience of alpine climbing and bivies, whilst jacket/pants seems you can use at other times, in reality you don’t and they’re often bulkier and heavier than the sleeping bag.
@GavTatu2 жыл бұрын
usually for summer use, but could be adapted, i use a waist sleeping bag, and the insulated jacket, in a bivi. i'd be using the jacket of an evening anyway, so why not sleep in it too.
@gabrielthiego16112 жыл бұрын
Hello! take a look at the equipment for omm gear (original mountain maraton) is exactly what you look for. raid line the pants turn into a sleeping bag along with the jacket, and lena willcox uses a system similar to yours she only gets in a metallic emergency bivvy on the inside to boost, and yes in the Andes the temperatures are pretty low even during the day.
@JulietElliottsChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips!
@pbr24242 жыл бұрын
Great video on puffy gear. Any idea of the model of the Rab jacket. I am kinda down obsessed. Thank you
@csarah511 Жыл бұрын
Hi pbr2424, As listed in the description, it’s a Rab Women’s Mythic Ultra down jacket. It’s the Dark Butternut color. That colour has just been phased out so its now discounted on quite a few sites. They make a men’s version too in almost the same color. It’s a beautiful jacket but its hood could be a lot better. Thanks.
@barryf19662 жыл бұрын
Rabb islovely kit so I’m surprised you felt cold in your nice overnight location
@Roskellan2 жыл бұрын
You do find some really nice places to ride, not so far away either :-) Not a sleeping out kind of person though, definitely a trip back home.
@kellymckenzie48652 жыл бұрын
You need an insulated sleeping pad or what's called an underquilt for a hammock. Any part of your body touching it will be pretty cold. Also, any insulation from your down jacket and pants is compressed between you and the hammock so it doesn't work very well at that point.
@JulietElliottsChannel2 жыл бұрын
think you missed the pinned comment at the top. I had an insulated mat
@hilaryyoung52902 жыл бұрын
Howdy! If one is wearing too many layers while sleeping, your circulation is not very good and you will feel cold. Less layers inside the bag will prolly be warmest, if you pick this route, seeing that you run cold anyway. Another commenter recommended the under quilt, I second that!
@JulietElliottsChannel2 жыл бұрын
Good to know!
@csarah511 Жыл бұрын
Hi Juliet, Fantastic video! What’s your opinion of the hood of your Rab Mythic Ultra down jacket? I own the same jacket, but I find its hood even when fully cinched still has a large gap around my head. The hood doesn’t have a volume adjuster to remedy that. The jacket has kept me very warm in frigid conditions but its hood could be better. I do the same as you by wearing a hat with it and sometimes a gaiter too or even a down gilet underneath the jacket. Thanks.
@wsbygt2 жыл бұрын
Morning! offtopic: the white version of that Smith helmet though...
@julianfisher97552 жыл бұрын
A doggy works lol. Or you will find that the down jacket used as a blanket over the sleeping bag between bivvy loads warmer than wearing,as it allows body heat to warm up the bag.
@volestoat2 жыл бұрын
Underquilt then a sleeping bag undone for a blanket. It's so much easier to get in and out of
@mq38682 жыл бұрын
How cold was it overnight?
@savagepro90602 жыл бұрын
The Selk'Bag (or Musuc'Bag) is a sleeping bag with arms, legs and a hood, which can sleep in AND worn as outerwear!
@ebikescrapper39252 жыл бұрын
Need to wear in the house instead of putting the hearing on.
@Dakce712 жыл бұрын
It’s not surprising that you were cold in a hammock since you had cold air below you. Great idea in the summer but not when it’s cold outside.
@JulietElliottsChannel2 жыл бұрын
I had a sleeping mat below me.
@blackiesmisadventures34132 жыл бұрын
You were probably cold due to cold air coming up underneath your hammock! Maybe for lightness use a silver foil roll May 👍
@moobaz86752 жыл бұрын
I was tight in the army that any fool can be cold / wet. Kit and bivi prep is key to staying warm and dry. 👍
@Wisselwerking2 жыл бұрын
I thought wow, I must have that. And then I saw the prices
@vencahonig7322 жыл бұрын
It looks like you did not used the underquilt (underblanket), which is necessary in hammock sleepeing. Look it up. With that you will be warm and cozy.
@marksharp2 жыл бұрын
Get some rab or north face down slippers, that will keep your feet warm. Always take a gonk bag though mate!
@JulietElliottsChannel2 жыл бұрын
Good idea. What’s a gonk bag?
@marksharp2 жыл бұрын
@@JulietElliottsChannel sorry mate. Army slang. It’s a sleeping bag lol
@wescheslak9408 Жыл бұрын
Nice camping. It looks cold .
@JulietElliottsChannel Жыл бұрын
it was!
@wescheslak9408 Жыл бұрын
@@JulietElliottsChannel thank you for doing what you do. I really enjoy your channel. Every bit of inspiration helps. Ride on ! Meow
@kidkarbon47752 жыл бұрын
Great Vlog. But I'm still on the lookout for your paracord bracelet effort 😉
@JulietElliottsChannel2 жыл бұрын
Coming soon!
@NorfLondonGardener2 жыл бұрын
Hammocks are really chilly. I think they are made for hot countries. You always get cold spots
@teddytusen2 жыл бұрын
Anything is cold if you do not bother with using the right gear... An underblanket/quilt is the right choice and lots of people sleep in a hammock down to minus 30-40 celsius. As a side note, she didnt use the treehuggers correct either.
@glennoc85852 жыл бұрын
Thermals Juliet from toe to head and you can get gloves and socks with battery heating🧤🔥
@johnb01012 жыл бұрын
If you are feeling rich, you could use the PHD Pied D'Elephant.... basically a sleeping bag for your lower body... paired with a down jacket.
@ObjectiveAnalysis8 ай бұрын
Anyone know the name of the jacket and pants?
@buck1972 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing you put your bike in Laura’s car at Finglers B.
@muzzmacc64112 жыл бұрын
Your pal Laura doesn’t look in the slightest way, smug😆😆😆😆 At this time of year, I always wear thermal leggings under my jeans. It’s a good weight-saving idea, with the puffer top and trousers in lieu of a sleeping bag. I’d have gone with the paramo Torres. Nice scenery.
@Sjoepiewa2 жыл бұрын
Great episode, again! Did you get any condensation on the inside of your bivy bag?
@tommotomlinson33702 жыл бұрын
I reckon a little more in the way of insulation mat and you'll be fine, the wind doth bloweth under one's hammock 💨💨
@blain58272 жыл бұрын
Looks like it’s been said but you most definitely need an underquilt or air mat or the heat will be sucked out of you in a hammock
@JulietElliottsChannel2 жыл бұрын
I've even pinned my own comment at the top. I had an air mat.
@blain58272 жыл бұрын
@@JulietElliottsChannel that’s odd than, surprised to here you were cold. I love sleeping in a hammock, hope you find a sleep system that works for you ✌️
@joelberman59812 жыл бұрын
But how did you like the hammock?
@jvsuperdudebro81122 жыл бұрын
Those mushrooms looked like amanita muscaria hallucinogenic 🍄 mushrooms.
@Casual_BackPacking2 жыл бұрын
You need an insulating layer under you because the draft under the hammock will make you very cold
@Casual_BackPacking2 жыл бұрын
Something small like a nemo foam pad will help a lot , no blowing it up , doesn't absorb water so you can keep it anywhere, easy to set up , and very light
@JulietElliottsChannel2 жыл бұрын
I had an air mat
@lauragriffithsoutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the best night 😆
@JulietElliottsChannel2 жыл бұрын
Any time! : )
@chrissyb.15342 жыл бұрын
I think instead the puffy clothes you need an underquilt to save your back from the cold air ;)
@JulietElliottsChannel2 жыл бұрын
But I had an airmat?
@nickc47162 жыл бұрын
Those ‘extreme’ ratings on sleeping bags basically mean that if you also wear all your clothes as well, you probably won’t die 😯
@rudyelizondo19352 жыл бұрын
Ahh always cold in a hammock
@zoemcdonald66522 жыл бұрын
Maybe you were cold because you were up off the ground? Perhaps you could test the puffy jacket & pants combo in your bivvi on the ground? Anyway, love the vids! Let us know how you go! @gravel_gals xx
@DaemonViews2 жыл бұрын
Did you partner finally attach a tracking device to your wrist after you continously getting lost?
@chrisstrider2 жыл бұрын
Tumble is the answer
@JulietElliottsChannel2 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@carlosalbertoduarte40892 жыл бұрын
Boa noite. Talvez o problema esteja na rede.
@simonward45202 жыл бұрын
Check out Oscar outdoors for hammock set ups.
@billbeatty62102 жыл бұрын
WoW-great video-beautiful terrain-I loved it-an yes you’re still beautiful!__Thanks
@JulietElliottsChannel2 жыл бұрын
😊 thank you
@jasonbull47592 жыл бұрын
You need to wear less layers, you body heat will heat up your sleeping bag and keep you warm, just a jacket and a bivi won't keep you warm, I hammock camp and put a mat in the hammock and a 7c sleeping bag and just sleep in boxers and a t shirt and I'm roasting warm, letting your body heat warm the bag is key, to many layers like you have won't keep you warm, give it ago 👍
@christophsommer62772 жыл бұрын
You look cute with your braids
@Francesco_M.2 жыл бұрын
Hike, bike, a swim and a camp! Laura always demands an all out effort from you these days eh? 😄 🏊♀️🚶♀️🚵♀️ Fun and engaging content as always Juliet, give yourself some proper rest time as long as your partner in crime conceives the next endeavour to tackle 😁 =]
@CyclingLifePT2 жыл бұрын
About the sleeping bag from Rab: If it's not yours and you can't keep it, i would not sleep in it. If you sleep in it, the sleeping bag is now worth more than the retail price. I've seen men buy a lot less, for a lot more. Trust me.
@ObjectiveAnalysis8 ай бұрын
Tf are going on about creepy
@luctielen2 жыл бұрын
A dog? I wonder what Catwoman has to say about that! ;-)
@raysgeardesigns5742 жыл бұрын
Thought you are vegan?!
@d.christianrathjens72092 жыл бұрын
Have tried a lot and cant really recommend a hammock. I like it for short time comfort, but it gives no advantage above sleeping on the ground. Ditch the hammock.