How To Program a Baofeng Ham Radio Easy and FAST With CHIRP

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Is using a baofeng on FRS/GMRS/MURS legal?! Check this out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJOaqJKKedWgqtk

[@JeremiahBess]

Hey Josh, there is a way to change settings on multiple memory slots all at once. Use Shift-Click to select multiple sequential memory slots or Ctrl-Click to select non-sequential slots. Then right-click on one of the selected slots and choose Properties. This will allow you to change any of the settings for all of those selected. For example, you can select all your NOAA stations and enable Skip and set Duplex off. Thanks for all you do for the Ham community!

[@Waterboy2000]

Another great tip I did not know. Thx!!

[@rainman766]

Excellent tip for this Newb! Perfect addition to Josh's great tutorial! Josh, consider adding power changes to the FMS/GMRS/MURS entries in your tutorial?

[@ffrreeddyy123456]

Should be pinned at top, since he couldn't figure this out or get over the slowing down to click them all individually. I just clicked well over 1oo times to change the settings. was fed up, thought about it, tried a few things, and came back to comment if it wasn't already well known. Cheers!

[@LochlainnMacLock]

When changing duplex: You can select all you want to change Right click and click properties Check the box next to duplex Modify value and hit OK. Save a ton of time!

[@donmadson]

Hey, Josh! From 1961-1965, I was a Radioman on a Destroyer for the USN. During that time, I served off the coast of Vietnam, Taiwan, China, Japan, Hong Kong, and various other places. My job (well, I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you) was mostly CW work, spending lots of long hours deployed doing everything from coastal weapons intervention to submarine patrol, and work with our firepower. I ended my service as an E-5 Petty Officer. Since 1965, I've thought very little about communication over distance, although I still have CW rattling around in my head. Recently, I became the Staff Photographer for the local NICA league (Kids, mountain bikes and races). In that capacity, I'm all over the race course. I'm also a certified First Aid/CPR/AED guy, because I teach T'ai Chi at three YMCA's. Long story short, as a rover all over a significant distance, it made sense to plug into the comm network in case i was needed (Yes, we have an attending ambulance and staff). I've re-kindled my fascination for electronic communication, and am starting with a UV5R. I've got the radio, am tuned into some local service frequencies, and will copy the frequencies at the races. I'm not transmitting, as I'm just studying for the Technician ticket, and don't want to be part of a problem. JUST writing this to say that your videos are well-constructed, clearly rendered, and appropriately directed as to talent levels. I've subscribed, and expect to learn lots with your videos. Thanks for your work.

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Hi Don! Thanks for the great comment. I enjoyed reading it! I’m glad you’re getting in radio. It’s a very broad hobby with lots of interesting niches. CW is still quite popular due to its efficiency. Lots of luck! 73 Josh,

[@Nicky_Pin_It]

Spittin' Nickels🤟

[@kevinb7778]

I would not have been able to figure this out if it wasn't for this video - Thank You

[@robertlucas6426]

I've had my radio for more than 6 months , seasons have changed and it's winter now , 2020 has passed and it's 2021 .....I still can't figure out chirp. Haven't they heard of prompts .

[@dougdaniels]

I've been a Ham for 20 years (never thought I'd own a Baofeng, but bought it to teach), and programmed a lot of radios, both by hand and by computer. This is without a doubt the best instructional video I've ever used, enough so that I was able to make changes on the fly.

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Thank you!

[@mhathaway8711]

great vid took about 15 mins to pgm a uv 82hp thanx

[@Rumble2u]

I think I can finally do this after looking at videos for 2 years and consistently failing. I’ve had a glorified kids walkie talkie. Thank you!

[@russellnotestine6436]

My Baofeng radio isn't here yet. I ordered the programming cable. Planning to open this video and watch it as i do it. [PLAY] do that task [STOP]. Next step.. [PLAY] do that step [STOP] etc. Very good video.

[@williamlutz465]

Of all the videos I've seen on programming a Baofeng portable via CHIRP, this is the best I've seen. Thanks for doing this video!!!!

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Glad it was helpful!

[@mikenord7393]

Just got my radio and I was so lost. thanks for the information. 73's KB7NWJ

[@tucoerquilenne6765]

Just got my Technician license, and my first Baofeng. Your channel will be my main goto to learn more stuff and what resources are out there. Thank you !!

[@jacklyons8989]

If you program in all your public works, police, fire ,etc, then when you have them all in, highlight them all, right click them, hit properties, check the box for duplex, and set it to off. That will set all of them at once so you aren't clicking for a half hour. Made it half way through mine when I figured it out.

[@Landaux]

I just got my BOAFENG UV-5R PLUS yesterday, I’m just starting out. It’s making my head hurt already trying to figure it out... however I’ve owned so many scanners and CB radios throughout the years it’s crazy this is the first ham radio for me

[@Lee35355]

I'm currently studying for my license and I just picked up my very first radio. This was extremely helpful! Thank you!!

[@NKBC1689]

I just made my first transmission today. Learned so much from Josh

[@karensullivan5438]

Thank you! thank you! It took all day to update my old Microsoft laptop but finally programmed it myself. I only used this video as a resource. iPad did no work, chrome book did not work either. So glad I like a variety of tech in my home. Still studying and ONLY listening, right now. Yet feeling very empowered

[@mastrsk8]

I just took my Tech exam Friday using remote testing. 34/35! I just wanted to say thank you for your videos because they helped me understand some of what I was memorizing. On to learning practical knowledge as I have little idea what I’m doing. Haha. Thanks again. HN6JVL

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Congrats!

[@archipeep]

New ham here. KN6UAA. Your channel has been INCREDIBLY helpful. Thank you for the work you put into this! Really appreciate it!

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Thanks for watching!

[@larrydrake955]

Went to the Amazon link for the proper cable and got the FTDI CHIRP model 5 premium universal package that has several different connectors with it. Followed your instructions and was able to program the UV-5R with no problems. Thanks much!

[@cfltitan]

Thank you soooo much for all your great videos! You're a life saver! I have a UV-5R, spare battery, programming cable and a 28" Abbree antenna on it's way to me. This would have been near impossible to figure out on my own. I'm new to radios and still trying to figure a lot of it out. Your videos help a LOT.

[@astrolabium88]

really happy about having these videos. manual is nutz ahahah

[@fibonnaxsolomon8824]

Bought my first Boafeng !!! Online. 5 days ago. Amazon France; Switzerland is too small, we don't have our "own Amazon". Baofeng was to be delivered this morning. Instead I got a letter from customs: "The device you have ordered does not comply with Swiss regulations. Its use and importation into Switzerland is prohibited. The device has been confiscated by customs." So much for that ....

[@cuddzilla]

Geez...thanks a million for making/posting this HOW TO! I really wasn't looking forward to trying to program my Baofeng. You made it a breeze. THANK YOU!!!!

[@gkeyman565]

I was just playing with the CHIRP software, and was doing some of the editing duplex like you suggested, you can highlight multiple rows with the normal selection methods CTRL+L-click, shift + L-click, etc. then do a right click and select properties and the select the option to edit, drop down box, option... you'll see Save you all those clicks

[@bradfletemier7991]

I just found this out this morning also! Was quick and easy to turn all my transmit off with a couple steps. (don't have my ticket yet) Can also copy and paste.

[@MrSoukihei]

Thank you for doing this video. I purchased of the UV-5R based on your recommendation on the Fieldcraft Survival podcast while I study for my Technicians license.

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Glad I could help!

[@MarkyShaw]

Great stuff man. Despite using CHIRP and a Baofeng for a while now, I definitely learned some good tips there. Like setting things up so you don't accidentally transmit on certain stations and the scan skipping! Having to pause on NOAA all the time was pissing me off. Silly things like that! This was definitely a nice refresher!

[@deanbo1024]

Do u know how to program without computer

[@daveonealpern]

You weren't kidding about needing to light some candles and open up some wine before sitting down to program your radio!! Your suggestion was spot on about allowing CHIRP to run through the security settings, but now the radio won't respond to CHIRP"s cloning request. I thought I purchased the OG programming cable, but apparently, I must have overpaid for a counterfeit. Even with downloading a new driver, the radio won't respond. This is gonna be a fun (ergo, long) night!! Good thing we are quarantined!! lol

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

I need the FTDI chip cable.

[@daveonealpern]

@@HamRadioCrashCourse Indeed I do! I need to pay more attention when ordering - thought I was getting that one - only to be duped! Thanks man. Truly appreciate your time in making these videos. Planning on taking my technician test as soon as we're allowed out of our homes again. Cheers and keep up the great work!!

[@thegrassisbluer09]

This autoplayed as I opened up CHIRP! Just got my Baofeng, can't wait to get my license!

[@davidson5286]

Yo! Learned a lot from your video. Instead of individually turning each channel's duplex to 'Off', You can do this instead: Use 'Shift' or 'Ctrl' to highlight multiple channels Right click on any highlighted channel, go to Properties Hit the Checkbox for 'Duplex' Change to Off, Hit OK Saves a few minutes of clicking! Thanks for the awesome info and youtube channel!

[@aldenallen28]

This video is worth its time in gold. It would have taken ages to figure this out. Thank you.

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Thank you kindly.

[@emtffzartman666]

OMG, I thought I had an idea of how to use CHIRP... but I had no idea you could add channels from stock config.. #mindblown THANKS!!! I'll be 73 and programming..

[@aceholefirearms5850]

Thanks for making a new video! I just set up my first radio (UV-5R) over the weekend using your older one. I look forward to learning more from your channel.

[@BigPaws8185]

Josh, Michael here in Culpeper, VA my callsign is KQ4BFV. I recently got my HAM License and a Baofeng UV-5R. This video made it SO much easier to figure out how to program my radio. I set it up the same way that you did and I'm ready to start scanning channels. Thank you kindly for the guidance on skipping the weather channels. Looking forward to my General License and maybe one day we can chat on the HF bands. 73!

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Thanks!! I am glad it helped!

[@jackg7225]

Finally got my Baofeng F8 programmed with the help of this video. I did have issues like probably taking about 7-8 times of plugging in the Chirp cable in before it work. The first couple times, I might not have pushed hard enough in with the cable on the radio side. Then trying to figure out which of the USB connections was the right one. Then watching this video on my iPad mini made it hard to pick up on some of the details. The download from my radio must have worked cuz there were only two channels showing but then when I went to upload the chirp file the the download link was grayed out anyway I was able to work through this and figure things out. Anyway about 2 hours later the radio was programmed. So far I’ve only heard the weather info on the radio 73 channels downloaded.

[@andrewmansker9074]

Excellent tutorial for a newbie like me. Not too much info, good pace, plenty of clarity.

[@kimgalloway3196]

Thank you so much for the tutorials. I was able to program my Baogfeng F8HP! yay me! I have to listen to your videos multiple times, always a work in progress. Now to study for the technician class test.

[@radiotopics1874]

Thanks Josh. Just bought a UV-5R and had no idea what CHIRP was. Followed along step-by-step with your video, and success! Your teaching style is excellent.

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Great!

[@Splatterdab1]

Of course, my challenge was getting the USB port recognized. In my case, I was using a 7-port USB hub. None of the ports were recognized. So, I plugged the cable directly into the computer USB port. Success. CHIRP is running fine.

[@christishusbandakastan7618]

I will be taking the Technician and General tests next month, and at the recommendation of my Elmer I purchased a Baofeng BF-F8HP which arrived yesterday. I watched this and several other videos of your and successfully programmed my phone in about 45 minutes. Thanks for your continued encouragement in your videos. You inspired me to get into ham radio, and I appreciate that.

[@cw2gtc]

Christi’s husband, Hey, my friend! Please disregard me if I’m wrong, but If I recall from deep in my obscure memory banks, somewhere, on another channel, various people were running down others who were not passing their Technician test on the first pass. Your wife (or another Christi) spoke up, defending those unable to pass the first time. She really let ‘em have it, too! And she was quite correct in doing so. Christi cited learning disabilities, and and brain injuries among reasons first timers may need a do-over. She said instead of calling them lazy and unmotivated, others should be praying for everyone’s best outcomes. Her story was quite motivating. If that is your Christi, Sir, you caught yourself a good one👍🏼👍🏼

[@toddthompson3746]

I'm 44, but often act like I'm 11, and I just got my Tech this year also. The hobby is great for all ages!

[@joetookmyvideo]

Its been 20 years since i played with this, WOWWWWWWWWW,, i don't have to lookup and punch every single thing in,,thanks

[@uxbman]

Just as I was about to surrender...along comes help! Great explanation. Especially about the cable. I saw an earlier video you did about getting that one, and it worked. Now, with this chirp explanation, I'm off to the races. Cheers!

[@ChristopherJones1337]

nailed it with the second cable, instantly able to program the radio. Thanks for the crash course!

[@ikesteroma]

What was wrong with your first cable?

[@creeryk]

Just got my Baofeng in the mail today, this video made it so easy to set up and get scanning. Thanks!

[@ronaldcichocki9993]

Thank you for the CHIRP programming crash course. I was able to program my Baofeng UV-9s the first time after i figured out the com port. again THANKS

[@lynnesuszek]

Need a pre-class class. I need a beginners course before I can understand yours. I’m sure it’s good stuff!

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Check out the first playlist on my channel. There is a ton of beginner material there.

[@CptCloseCall]

There is a good $2 app to take practice exams and explains why an answer is the way it is, with formulas ...etc. i love it.

[@keithriddle4246]

@@CptCloseCall what is it?

[@rodneyjohnson4794]

WAAAAAAAAAKKKK! i am SO with you on this! i just got a gt-5r ('legal'? version of uv-5r) and it took a half hour to figure how to turn it on. i'm used to squelch and frequency knobs. 'on/off' to me is a push button. there are 24 buttons counting the one to release the battery. makes my head hurt. and did baofeng not include the cord to keep the price down on the basic unit? whatever. i bit the bullet and got one off amazon. some radios increase watts out by using a greater amp hour battery. will a 3800maH battery do that? i will investigate. i was gifted an amazon tablet last christmas. it took me 2 days to figure how to turn it on. no knobs and the on/off button had to be held down for 3-4 seconds to do it's job. no instant on/off. came with NO instructions.

[@bstarkey54]

Great video. My chirp had all my GMRS channels with duplex off, so I guess that would have made it unable to transmit. Would have been very frustrated with my new radio if I had not found that out. Always learn a lot. You help is very much appreciated.

[@dantanner8442]

Found out tonight you can multi-select by utilizing that first column. Click the first one to change, shift+click the last one. Then, right-click and choose Properties. Here, you can click the Skip box and then change to S. This lets you change multiple ones at one time! Works for any of those properties.

[@elliottdmann]

Wow, this was really helpful. Thank you for explaining your philosophy of use, what to store in memory channels, scanning for activity, etc. Thanks, too, for explaining CHIRP. Super cool stuff.

[@michaela.2674]

The Cable is The Way - Thank you for the tips and educational content, Josh!

[@fineoutrick9789]

Really well explained and demonstrated. My frustration level was bad for my heart after my frustrations (and some other videos), but programming was simple as you did it. Thanks for a good job.

[@drive-n-seek]

Great walkthru! Thanks for helping me get my GT3TP up and running so quickly!

[@jamesphilips4290]

Thanks Josh, saved me a lot of time with Chirp. Was having problems and your video got me on track. Keep up the good work !

[@QuakerFaker]

Great video! Want to let you know that in CHIRP you can highlight multiple channels/ right click/ properties/ check "duplex"/ set to off. This will set all highlighted channels to duplex off.

[@Bloosee]

successfully programmed! Waiting on Corona lock down to clear so I can take my test.

[@tonysyracuse5365]

I cannot thank you enough for this tutorial. Made programming my TYT UV88 a breeze.

[@sdbobbyt]

Thank you so much for this video. I've been using Chirp for a while, but didn't know it did so much. Thanks again!

[@tonybennett4895]

Just programed my Baofeng with your tutorial. Thanks for easy straight forward instructions. Excellent!

[@infiltrator7777]

Such an important topic at this time!

[@adamsonofdon2766]

At 12:25 you talk about syncing the a and b channels for name and freq. how does one do that?

[@assaultprepper9263]

Thank you for a great, straight forward tutorial on how to program our Baofeng radio. You have effectively demystified the process and made it oh so much easier to step-into the shallow waters of beginner's HAM radio.

[@helodriver20]

Super easy to program! I have a Baofeng UV-82HP and UV-82 and taster watching your video a couple of times, got both programmed easily. Thank you! 💙🇺🇸

[@dangerdoberman]

I just got a UV-5R last week and the programming cable today. Just programmed it similar how you set it up. Much OBLIGED. I'm not for licenses but figure may as well get my license. Won't matter in emergencies, but good to practice. Much obliged for the video! >:0

[@556chase]

I just bought a new radio and have been watching lot's of your videos. Thanks for all the help. I just now need to figure out how to get on one of your live feeds so I can buy you a beer! Cheers.

[@RachaelPadilla]

Great tips! I used these to help me program my UV-5R. Doing it without CHIRP would have been a nightmare!

[@The_Critical_Critic]

Just became a subscriber as I am currently getting in the ham game. Great content... looking forward to programming my Baofeng...

[@beachwalker2574]

If you experience "An error has occurred" Radio did not respond" after 2 hours I figured it out THE DAM PLUG THAT FITS IN THE RADIO does not seat all the way ! when I click " radio" Download from radio i was pushing in the plug into the radio hard and it worked.. it was cloning.. Now Ill take the plug out and cut the bottom of the rubber of the plug.. I see on the radio between the two female jacks has a slight bump so on the male plug ill shave it down where it seats in nicely Becareful !!

[@BrunoBaronet]

Hi Josh, thank you for this video, thanks to you I was able to program my first radio last night and today I had my first contact with someone in the UK! Cheers, VE7QBR

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Awesome! Congrats!

[@brentp1630]

This was amazing! Thank you so much! I passed my test tonight and am now good to go!

[@almostasn89]

Help please? At 6:04, when I try to find anything using the repeater book proximity search, i keep getting no channels found but if i go to the website I can find them all. Thank you for putting out awesome content, your podcast is killer.

[@ironkiko]

I just got 2 UV5Rs yesterday with that cable. I'm glad you made this video and I understand better now. Thanks so much. I'm just West of you, here in the South Bay. I'll look for your group on FB.

[@scottwingard7999]

Much appreciate your taking the time and effort to create this very well put together video. Best one I found on the web.

[@sct913]

I have two Baofeng GT-3s. Was pulling my hair out trying to program them until I discovered CHIRP. Two things I've noted. First, CHIRP does not always automatically recognize the COM port the radio is connected to, so you may have to manually select the COM port through trial and error. Second, you may have to set CHIRP to a different radio than your model in order to get the radio to properly import and export. Other than those minor glitches, it's a great tool for programming these radios.

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

It’s not a glitch, you have to provide the serial port. Just being up your device manager and then plug in the cable. The new cable in device manager is what you should point CHIRP too. Further, the radio types also aren’t chirps fault. It’s the all the cloned baofengs that are internally identical.

[@billcooper4525]

Excellent tutorial! Just getting into the hobby and got a UV-5X3 yesterday. Got a lot to learn, but this was a great start. Thanks!

[@fire4298]

New to these radios. Your video was extremely helpful and straight forward. Just programmed 2 UV 5Rs no problem. Only thing I would add is to reboot after installing FTDI cable to update driver. Thanks again!

[@gaurav279]

Great video. Is there any way to unlock the VFO ON BAOFENG UV5R for Airband RX 73s

[@scottskinner3533]

Thank you so much for your videos I purchased 3 bf-f8hp radios and I’m totally intimidated about programming these things… Do I have to do a factory reset before I go to chirp and program it per your instructions? Thank you

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

No you do not.

[@marcodeza3359]

I was wondering once you added the FRS/GMRS channels, you didn't set the Duplex to OFF. Just wondering if I missed something. Thanks so much and I appreciate all your videos.

[@escapetherace1943]

why would he?

[@kevindscott1]

For turning off the transmit on the weather and other stations.. You can click on the top one, hold the Shift key, click on the bottom on, all between will be highlighted, right click on one of them, Properties, click the checkbox beside Duplex, select what you want in the drop-down and then click OK. It will change all that are highlighted.

[@DutchmanRadio]

Oooohhhh updated video!! I have been thinking of doing one of these too

[@blade913]

Thanks! I learned quite a lot from this and understanding Chirp and what to look for. This is indeed an excellent entry to HAM radio, as it's something small and nothing complex to begin with. Hope to get my license later this year, when I'm not so busy. For now it's just listening and learning about the radio.

[@metrotek5]

Thought it was going to be a daunting task.... Josh, you made it super easy . Thank you, sir -

[@WilliamRNicholsonLST-1195]

I was shocked that the radio manufacturer did not give any info on how to proceed after the purchase ! Manual was in Chinese & only listed specs & warranty . I think they'd sell many more products if providing a programming cable & instructions on basic programming of the unit & operation. Now I guess I better see what Bandit is up to & I hope his ears are up although Sally Field probably is distracting him again .................

[@MatterBaby68]

For some reason I'm not getting the import option. Only the query source option. Do I have to re download chirp?

[@joshuac3058]

Thanks man this helped so much notarubicans vid was good but yours was clear and EZ

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Thank you!

[@19TC504]

i m not a ham operator,(failed 2 times for my exame)i m using my baofengs only for pmr and lpd and as a scanner,i see all your radio video.s i have the baofeng gt3 and the baofeng uv 5r 73,s 19ct031 (my cb callsign)

[@Dave-VK5PL]

Thanks Josh, Having never used 2m/70cm before this was a great video to explain not the "how to program" but the "what to program" ie just the call channels and repeaters. I have a new AT878 that needs filling up. If you want to QSY to a clear frequency from the call channel, you just dial it up, you don't need to programs loads of simplex channels. Here in VK I don't think we have all that many repeaters so I could program a few simplex frequencies anyway.

[@ductape8214]

I just got a into ham radio looking to get my amateur. Thanks for the info helped me setup my radio quick

[@incarnadinelifestyle]

Is this the 5th video I've been searching for? Dude, it's almost 3AM in Phoenix, please tell me this is that video. I have the other 4 videos already bookmarked.

[@mbbrooks123]

I have learned quite a but from you and others on here thank you. Although I am having trouble receiving nearby channels, but I can pick them up on my phone. I'm trying to pick them up on my UV 5r. No, I do not want to talk or interrupt and I know how to shut that part off. I just want to listen especially if an emergency comes about. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I'm using chirp. I add pre-programmed channels provided and I upload to the radio. Channels are there, but nothing is coming through other than NOAA.

[@kh9242]

It's good to see the pilot from FireFly is doing well

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Lol. I’ve heard that before. But sadly, Wash died.

[@SpicySteve-tz2so]

Thank you for posting this video! I am now setup thanks to your instruction.

[@daveholden2711]

I still say the Kenwood TH-F6 was the single best HT every made. 400 memory slots, including 7-letter names. Triband, with 220! And wide receive from AM to 1.2ghz. The best HT I've ever had. If only it could do cross-band repeat, like the older TH-79 could do...

[@MrRustyBob]

Hello Josh. Once the UV-5R is programmed, how do I go about starting over. Just as if it were a new radio ?

[@stevearodgers]

Great video Josh! I used it to program a Baofeng GT-3WP this evening. Worked like a charm.

[@buzzsah]

I am not big on Baofeng or similar radios. I do have a few of each that we use on the farm. However, for amateur I will not use, but with that, I use the RT System for cables, programs and both in kit form for all radios, work, amateur and not worry about if its in English and no download virus/malware ....

[@rafikiAli]

I really appreciate the value you bring to the world!

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Thank you!

[@markjamison9132]

I don't have a PC. Please make a video on how to program a BAOFENG manually. To transmit and receive. Make this video programming for dummies because I am new and don't understand the menu. Also I would like to use my BAOFENG as a scanner. Thank you!

[@Redactedblack]

So I have a couple F8TDs and they aren't listed on CHIRP. Any Idea how I can start programing this particular model?

[@jonathanmedlock2400]

Thanks for the cool video! Really insightful....I've just bought a pair of BF-F8HP on the recomendation of a friend...thanks again!

[@Martin42944]

Fyi to do duplex off for multiple in a row - select the first one, hold shift, select the last one then go properties. click the checkbox to the left of duplex then "off" then okay.