Tidradio H8 - TD-H8 - UPDATE! Sales Halted! Why?

Sales have been halted on the Tidradio H8 TD-H8 GMRS / Ham radio. Sales are expected to resume in 6 weeks.
In this episdoe I discuss some of the things I have advised have been fixed and some additional concerns regarding this radio and the ODmaster software.
For the record: I think Tidradios has a potential future as a company which will have great and interesting products. I understand some people are upset and I won't change that. What I hope to do is help Tidradios see what I believe other radio operators would see as issues and concerns. These can be addressed and Tidradios can do well.
Screenshotted Link to ODMaster EULA - ibb.co/YybQC7q
Link to the EULA - web.odmaster.net/privacy

[@dougdaniels]

Thanks for being a consumer advocate for us. There are enough choices in the industry so there's no reason to buy from an unscrupulous company.

[@royrobinson4636]

Brutal but honest review! Your honesty and integrity certainly explain why this video already has 10,000+ views and your channel has 17,800+ subscribers. Personally, I own six (6) Tidradios in three different Ham and GMRS variations. Now, I question them all? Thank you, Sean!

[@DonzLockz]

sucking out all your cell phones data is a major redflag. Thanks for this info, I will never ever buy one of their radio's! Good job for letting us know.👍

[@scotterdog1036]

Good job Dude! It's great to see some results from your testing.

[@aaronlindemann2669]

Thanks for keeping us informed on this!

[@pc4ad]

Well done on the research, I hope that they will allow you to make a next part by re-entering this to the market after FCC testing. Keep on the good work Sean!

[@backcountryamateurradio]

nice video and update. I've also been "testing" one of these. They eventually sent me a second one because the first was so defective it couldn't be "tested" - the second showed up and then the email with all those bulleted problems.... Thanks for putting this out there.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

I truly appreciate you responding and hearing that you had a defective one because there's a possibility we had a radio from the same batch. I'm curious how the second one you received is over the first one? Have a good day

[@rogermedley8043]

Integrity. Something that's missing in the world. KEEP IT UP!!!! N1ROG, 73

[@barryzoll9772]

Thank you for your honesty. We need voices like yours, to keep the manufacturers honest.

[@Thatsmisteroldguytou]

Thanks, your input has opened my eyes to several shady things.

[@learnshareevolve1842]

Great work! This demonstrates how citizen advocates can be effective to 'audit' regulatory compliance and good 'manufacturing' practices.

[@EverydayAdmin]

I have been told by a birdie they are re-designing it. Take it as a grain of salt but it was from a good source. I would be patient and see what they bring back. From the details I cannot share it should be greatly improved!. Keeping fingers crossed.

[@DenaliDad]

I am a completely new entrant to this hobby. As such, I have watched a million KZbin videos on all kinds of radios and technical areas from content creators whose presentation skills vary widely. I do not have access to or the knowledge to operate testing equipment. I appreciate both your obvious technical expertise AND your presentation, even though I don't totally understand everything you say--you, after all, are the expert. When I saw your detailed explanation of the previous video, I went and watched it...I was shocked (well, not really) that a Chinese company would do that. I retired from a federal regulatory enforcement agency in 2011, so following the rules is important to me. While I am looking for my first handheld radio to buy, having your input is critical. Thank you.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

I appreciate it. I am just a normal dude who's collected equipment over the years (Since my start in the early 2000's at the Wireless Internet companies). I don't know much, but I like to learn and help. When I do put out information, I feel confident enough to get it out there and usually within the community, there are some good people where if something is off, we'll work on getting it corrected so we all learn (with no hostility). It's great. Take care!

[@TheNotaRubicon]

The "purity" on my (3 month old Preproduction unit) is not as bad as yours, but GMRS users dont care about that anyway.. But the power-output on the low setting is so low it wont even register on my meter.. Mid is 6W and high is 9.7W... we'll see if thats fixable via a firmware update.. My up/down button issue was resolved via a firmware update pushed via Bluetooth from my phone.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

Thanks for the info on your findings. I got some firmware on there today for the GMRS up/down is correct. Can you test one thing? Try to program 462.575 (channel 24) in channel 31. Does it transmit for you? Channel 24 still does but 31 won't. Another individual (Billy) in some of the comments brought that up and I can replicate it.

[@duncanchaboudy4187]

You are such a great HamTuber. One of my favorites, for sure. This😮 sounds like a TickTock ht. Hmmm. I am starting to question how I exposed myself by programming all of my radios. Much respect.

[@billpowell5931]

Good follow-up to the initial testing video. Look forward to your future review of the "fixed" radios. Wink, wink...

[@nenitabradtke198]

Love your real reviews. I bought a baofeng f8hp. It is also a false battery capacity, labeled 2100, but actually less than 2100 mAh. Frequency range problem, fcc certification part15B+part97, the correct range is 144Mhz-148Mhz, 420-450Mhz, the false statement that the transmission range is 136-174MHz, 400-520MHz

[@nenitabradtke198]

Can you test it? If there is the same problem with me.

[@kingdick4508]

I wonder what would K8MRD say about it. I don’t think Mike would be as nice about it… I do appreciate your honest review.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

I really want to see what he has to say about it

[@StuartM0TTQAmateurRadio]

Great detective work and very important too

[@Dusty_Ham]

Wow great update dude! Thank you

[@n5yiz]

Very informative video...thanks!

[@johnsavage8778]

Thank you for the great information I am just getting started in the community and am trying to learn what I can

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

Glad to help and don't be afraid to ask. Are you getting into GMRS or Ham?

[@prepcommsuk]

Well done on this. Excellent work sir.

[@ChipEckardt]

Thank you for this update.

[@don_n5skt]

Thanks Dude. Sorry work keeps getting in the way.

[@thork0tjt515]

You’re the best Dude!! Keep up the good work!

[@j.kevinhunt147]

Being too easy on them. When you get two more of them and they are still effed up, please be sure to send your findings to FCC. Thanks for your action on this! 73

[@Soladaddy]

You are probably on the right track as to what will happen concerning the FCC cert and the current stock of radios. These $40 or a 4 pack for $90ish radios are very tempting. I mean look at the amount of radios that can be had for the price of one good quality radio? I'm a sucker for a cheap radio, but the collection of unused radios is growing. Just lost a 22 year old Icom mobile, RIP and am looking for a replacement. There are a ton of $130 dualbanders out there, but I'm thinking a Yaesu is in order.

[@joewoodchuck3824]

Yaesu has served me well, especially with HF.

[@spaceflight1019]

I was a diehard Kenwood man until two 940s and a TS2000 went brain dead on me. I still have two 430s but added a FT-990 and a FTdx1200 as my main radios.

[@Shastasays]

My takeaway from this video is STAY AWAY. Too many issues and concerns. The company has huge ethical issues. This is a big black eye for this company. Thanks for the great review. Good job.

[@offgrid.technology]

Hoping the updated version works out all the kinks.

[@Ross13ful]

Also saw on Amazon someone said it was hard to upgrade the firmware I believe and other issues they said is was horrible but they stated that it was a pre release model so I’m not sure that’s the reason for the problems with this radio

[@supyrow]

Well done

[@jamesmoore6424]

Integrity!!! Love it!

[@chrissewell1608]

A rare attribute in people, these days!

[@mraleksk1]

Dude thumbs up! But, this is not the only radio that does strange things. I just had an experience with a pretty old radio, that was made by a very admired brand (which sounds almost like wazoo... =D) and it does transmit on frequencies that it shouldn't, and it's so old that it's probably will be out of commission in a few years, and sure FCC approved very long time ago. So, I am not surprised... =D

[@paulplack490]

Tip: Don't buy a new model in the first year from any new Chinese manufacturer/re-brander. Be prepared to send it back if spurious emissions exceed legal limits, because that also means they'll fail the manufacturer's advertised specs by a wide margin. If enough people did this, they'd stop selling junk.

[@rickpinelli1586]

I bought the ham radio by mistake on Prime Day. I wanted the GMRS version and it was too late to cancel. I received it and did open the box! It is going back to Amazon.... You get what you pay for!

[@AmateurRadioClub]

Great Video HRD

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

Appreciate it!

[@togeika]

You have a pre-production unit. Might you try and test a current/updated version? I see to the end you say you are going to buy an updated unit. Good move!

[@WJ6FRadio]

Great videos on the TD-H8. I find it funny that they think the FCC will actually get something done in the next 6 weeks or so. Seems they have never worked with the US Government.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

I believe you and I both know the expression, "hurry up and wait" lol

[@WJ6FRadio]

@@HAMRADIODUDE I know that expression all too well! I have this same radio sitting on my work bench, and had worked on a video for it and I have ended up scrapping said video due to what happened on Friday with the FCC amongst other things.

[@charleshamilton635]

Interesting that they have them for sale on their website as of last night. It showed both the Ham and GMRS version in stock, but as of this morning only the GMRS version is in stock.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

I think I know who bought the ham version 😎

[@charleshamilton635]

@@HAMRADIODUDE Haha! Aaannd they're gone!

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

@@charleshamilton635 I think there was only one left when I made the video. Glad someone got one heh

[@johnroberts6695]

Speaking of Retevis, have you tested their RHD-771 antennas? These antennas are a heavier stock than other antennas. (I'm now using Signal.Sticks) I'm just curious about the Retevis, which I think comes with the Tidradio H8. Oh, and if you talk to Tidradio, tell them that their 1800mAh battery is a deal breaker. I'm not touching it if it's not 3000mAh. And I'll be checking.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

I do have one of those retevis antennas. I purchased it at a fest about 2 years ago. $7.00 and I made a 91 mile contact (From a summit) and 5 watts. I won't speak to tidradio. They don't like the exposure. It's fine though, I don't want my name on that mess when it finally comes to light.

[@johnroberts6695]

@@HAMRADIODUDE » Unfortunate. The TD-H6 (Baofeng BF-H6) is such a great little radio that it pains me to see Tidradio put it's name on such a piece of garbage. The H8 is still available in GMRS, but not the ham version. Baofeng has to take a large part of the blame for the H8, because it makes the damn thing. Sadly, its business motto is: "You lie and we'll swear to it!"

[@joeframo3347]

Hey radio dude you're smart guy maybe these companies will get on the ball you're scaring me with some of the stuff you found out and I have the the radio and it works really well but everything you're saying about scaring me 😭

[@greyshadow9498]

When Amazon's Early Prime sale was on this was cut from $80 to $60 and I was considering buying one. I looked all over for an FCC ID for it and couldn't find it, so that was a red flag... You're not the first person to say they were soliciting positive reviews, that added to my apprehension. But yeah Odmaster is unavailable on ANY of my devices so I said no.... Like a day later it was yanked.... Yeah TIDRADIO sells mainly rebranded clones, but the H8 was their chance to show something original and they cut so many corners it's ridiculous.

[@mikeramsey9747]

I would be surprised if the FCC doesn't fine them for selling the radios with a bogus certification.

[@tomKZ8TOM]

They should ban the importation and sale of all their products in the USA for 1 year.

[@germanjohn5626]

These days, the FCC doesn't give a rats arze unless the radio interferes with emergency services.

[@N1gel]

Great work detailing the tests. I am all for minimum regulations but it is essential to protect and police the rf spectrum because we dont want toys sold effectively as WMD's

[@FelixLantiguaCamacho]

DAMN! I wanted to buy it

[@3henry214]

Now that the gen2 of the TD-H8 is out are you going to put one through the testing hoops? K8MRD released a video and the power output on UHF has been dramatically improved, but he did not test for spectrum purity. I'm also curious to see if the radio bears a new legit FCCID or none at all. If the spectrum purity is still an issue, I'm taking a pass on this radio.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

A good friend had one send to him by tidradio. He has done the honor of passing it on to me for a fair and unbiased re review 😁

[@charleshamilton635]

I have a GMRS version of the H8. It definitely has low modulation when transmitting. I did a test of several GMRS radios and even included some FRS radios comparing the transmit audio. It almost sounds as if these radios are stuck in narrowband all the time. Anyone have a way of testing for narrowband vs wideband ?

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

Sure I can do that. I'm working on another video soon and will confirm

[@bryansmith1407]

Tidradio H8 GMRS is back up on Amazon now .

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

I think I'll pass on this one.

[@BillyMcCord]

I have one of these in hand (GMRS Version) its a bit weird.. programming is proprietary software vs chirp... and I put one of our local GMRS repeaters in and it wont transmit... Must be a setting I am unaware to change to make it work... It gives you the f-u beep when you PTT receives the repeater fine.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

Out of curiosity, which frequency is it? I can attempt on a gmrs firmware

[@BillyMcCord]

@@HAMRADIODUDE 462.575 ... also my up down buttons work the way they should (not backwards)... i'd love to have more of conversation about this thing.. I think their are other weird things.... my channel doesn't have any radio stuff on it, but I thought about doing a video.

[@BillyMcCord]

@@HAMRADIODUDE I followed you on Twitter DM me I've been tinkering with us for a day or two I could likely set up the network stuff that you mentioned in your video tonight as I am actually a network engineer.

[@coryallen4282]

Hey, I had this same issue with my H8 GMRS radio I got from Amazon. I contacted Tidradio and they gave me the software to do a firmware update. FYI after I flashed the firmware my radio is now an unlocked radio. I have all the files, let me know if you want them.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

I replicated this issue. On Channel 31, I added 462.575 and no transmit. Settings were the same as on Channel 24, which is the same frequency, that channel transmits. I believe there may be some firmware update, let me take a look, load it and try again. And if not, i'll reach out to Tidradios

[@ryankc9oza118]

Thanks for the update

[@wesleyblue7715]

Wow these are on sale now at Amazon

[@BradleyBrown]

Thank you for having our backs and educating us on these issues! de KC1JMH

[@wcgems]

"an uncertified splatter box" Translation - nearly even Chinese HT made starting with BAOFENGs first radio.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

I've tested some baofengs in the past that have been splatter and some that haven't been.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

Now that I got my attenuator, I can test more

[@ChuckBigbie]

Well I should have watched this before I purchased this on Amazon. I do have a Ham license, do they have firmware updates for this? Ham radio xmit unlock?

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

I stopped following them. However, I think there is some "unlock firmware" on their website. Since you purchased it, would you mind telling me how it is? I know they are now certified. Thanks!

[@ChuckBigbie]

@@HAMRADIODUDE have not tested it. Will do in a couple of weeks, have not found unlock

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

First a warning: I have not scanned this, tried it (recently), etc etc. This is at your own risk - www.walkietalkiesoftware.com/portal/index/software_detail/id/51.html

[@samjones-ou3bn]

your very cool !!

[@DD-gd3fr]

Thank you for revealing .bottom line is they are lying .beofeng is doing the same.Im not bashing Chinese Radios I own some good ones also.

[@daveb3910]

At least they are feigning attempts to remedy the issues

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

Sure.. Hopefully they remedy the security issues with the software.

[@baronedipiemonte3990]

KSUN makes a decent product, but they LIE about output power and battery capacity... perhaps even about FCC acceptance. BTW I won't have a radio that has to programmed using a PC... And I don't think I'll be buying any TID radios. I'm a little p*ssed at Icom over the U-86 (UHF Version of the VHF V-86). It's on their brochures, listened on the manual but it's ONLY available in the Philippines and Vietnam... WHY ??? There ARE scammers selling FAKE Icom's on eBay i. e. the old V-8, U & V 82's... yes, the U-86 too (with the picture of the display obscured... but photoshopped to show "U-86". If you look, it's got a 2 meter antenna... maybe other discontinued model's too... they're counterfeit !

[@ScannerJunkie]

Can't really see me buying a tid radio

[@johnroberts6695]

I almost bought one of these horrible little radios, trusting that the batteries were really 3000mAh! That was a great selling point. 1800mAh isn't. Some new batteries are 1600mAh on new radios. Do they really think we won't check these things? Geeeesh.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

I think now they claim 2500mAh.

[@_5bit_]

dang what a shame, the radio looks really nice, it looks like a baofeng upgrade

[@theoriginaldashriprock]

Looks mean nothing.

[@jd415]

Why is this radio no longer being sold as 10 watt and now only as 5 watt?

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

I'm guessing because they want you to upgrade the firmware to unlock it and then it will be 10 watts. That's my guess though. I don't support Tidradio after my last interactions with them, but you can try it if you would like. I'd assume the firwmare is the HAM software, not sure though - www.walkietalkiesoftware.com/portal/index/software_detail/id/49.html . Do that at your own risk.

[@DavidHowland87]

Hey I have 2 of the radios and 3 software updates I just updated them both and the radio is actually working awesome! The speakers are great whatever they did fixed this radio and it's one hell of a radio and I thank Tidradio for giving me these radios for free what a great radio at 1st it was junk but man whatever they did to fix these they did a good job! So anyone that has 1 do the updates because it's awesome! Ok now for the app that has been updated as well and all the info you said you have to give is false! I downloaded the app and hit deny and it works fine! You don't have to give your info to use the app hit no and your good to go and chirp is a go!!!!

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

That's great to hear about the updates! I appreciate it. I'll check for your videos too! Thanks

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

Good to know about denying your info. I am in contact with a network security network security guy who's going to test it. Thanks

[@joconnorwi]

it's back up for sale 2.2.23

[@briancorty4348]

Wireshark Packets are very very interesting

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

I'd love to hear more if you've sniffed it.

[@FOREMAN3301]

Should have picked one up before they pulled them.

[@JohnUsp]

This radio has very high harmonics and spurious.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

Indeed it did. I don't know anything about the new version though

[@JohnUsp]

@@HAMRADIODUDE did you show the measures?

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

@@JohnUsp kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z17ElJ-hfKlqjNk around 19:55.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

Also check this one out kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGfGgWprhcSBo5Y

[@dillkilltv3942]

Have you read tiktok fine print

[@ManuelPinner]

That Why I buy Japanese Brands Radios Only!

[@eltacuachi4205]

What is similar to the Motorola RMU2080d

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

What's your budget?

[@eltacuachi4205]

@@HAMRADIODUDE same price or cheaper. Or what is better than the rmu2080d? I’m using it for hunting northern CA forests

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

So, first responder, using this on fire frequencies? Uhf, analog? No other requirements?

[@michaelgross7016]

hey, guess what. we need these radios for emergency situations. my radio is fully capable. .if I take ham up as a hobby......maybe...and get a license.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

Cool.

[@forextraderradioman]

Excellent video! ... thank you :) vy73 from Hamburg/Germany, Dietmar, DL4HAO

[@germanjohn5626]

I checked the harmonics and they are NOT within specs just like many others. It is terrible and potentially causes harm to other users. The receive specs are not even close.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

Thank you for confirming.

[@yetimansquatch73]

So, I shouldn't use odmaster?

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

They emailed me to tell me it was a secure app. I have and will be releasing proof it sends your passwords in plain text. If you're using this app, Change your passwords if they are associated with ANY other accounts.

[@yetimansquatch73]

@@HAMRADIODUDE thank you

[@rickhunt3183]

If you're not looking at Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood. You're taking a big risk. I've dealt with a lot of Chinese companies and I don't think even 10% can be considered honest. They build as cheap as possible and I don't mean with cheap labor, but low quality components, and sometimes parts that are stripped from old equipment. If it's an American or Japanese company in China that's totally different. If all you can do is spend 25 dollars vs 200. I can't fault you. Money is tight for everyone right now. A hamfest or swap meet is probably your safest bet for low price equipment.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

Great point. I'd throw in alinco with the top 3 you already mentioned

[@georgeetherege8347]

All this exemplifies why I have personal policy of NOT buying ham radio equipment that isn't either (a) designed and made in the USA; or (b) designed in Japan and made in Japan, Thailand, or Malaysia; or (c) designed/made in Taiwan---by respected manufacturers. These people know exactly what they are doing: make a production run of cheap, poorly or incompletely designed stuff and do what's necessary to sell it in a big market like the US. The fake FCC ID is the dead giveaway that this is premeditated. Once the items are in the marketplace, they make demonstrative efforts to "correct" errors and incomplete firmware--but the production run got sold and a lot of money is in-house. Reputation? The next model will be sold under a different brand name, maybe by a different Hong Kong- (or elsewhere-) registered corporate entity. This disrupts and undercuts the established ham radio suppliers, making their efforts to compete less successful economically. What if Kenwood decides to stick with high-end audio/visual and drop its line of hand-held ham gear. ICOM doesn't need to sell VHF and UHF ham gear--they are the Motorola of Japan. After all, the Baofeng UV-5R and its offspring in the $25.00 to $80.00 price range are a pretty good deal for the budget-minded ham... until they are all we can get. When these terrific value, really non-compliant suppliers deliver competent, honest designs we should avoid them like the you-know-what.

[@lyfandeth]

Don't waste your money buying Gen.2. A leopard doesn't change it's spots.

[@aaronhowell4769]

TYT makes a few good analog an digital radios

[@nr3rful]

Ok, soooo, the owner can fix stuff with the firmware instead of the manufacturer fixing it BEFORE they send them out to the public....yea I'll buy one....NOT

[@alabamathunder2891]

Will not be buying a Tidradio radio unless those privacy issues are resolved, along with the tech issues, along with the fact that they need to stop with this behavior where they tried to dis-acknowledge issues. That's a problem.

[@dannypittman4766]

Not test the radio, hello this is ham radio. ham radio operators toy with and test everything

[@DavidHowland87]

The FCC label is correct and in the system now just letting you all know that everything Tidradio said they would do and fix is fixed and the radios I have are getting 15watts unbelievable!!!!

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

What's your FCC label say? Because I still see nothing new. I'd really love to know. I guess I could make a few phone calls if I need to, but I really think there's nothing in the system.

[@DavidHowland87]

The radios are complete junk I also was lied to just yesterday by Tidradio because your correct the FCC labels are bogus just like the radios are! I was kidding whith the other comments I just Hate Tidradio what a joke they are ans the software updates I think make the H8 worse now my transmit led doesn't work only works when it wants to!! The radios keep freezing and it's just complete garbage the only thing that's working correctly is the arrows! They just better stop making or trying to make radios and leave that job to anytone or something 😆 I love your videos keep up the great work we all really do appreciate what you do!!! Thanks and God Bless you and your family! Oh and Im sorry for leaving alot of comments saying goodstuff about the radio, I was kidding but the FCC label thing got me all confused but I think Tidradio sent me a link to the FCC site and now today it's not on there something is not right with Tidradio!!!

[@DavidHowland87]

The watts have been fixed update your radio bud

[@thomasmaughan4798]

Oh for heavens sake. It was impossible to see what you hold up to the camera for 47 milliseconds and then wave it around testing the agility of my eyes. Then there's the ear muffs. It isn't clear why this seems to be a "thing" for people that are not listening, but talking! The bigger the better.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

Glad you liked the video. Hope you found the 1/2 speed playback option on KZbin by now.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

@@HAMRADIODUDE " Hope you found the 1/2 speed playback option on KZbin by now." I had not even considered that option. Thank you!

[@paulsylvester1394]

Firmware errors can be understood but a false FCC sticker is something done on purpose with the goal of defrauding customers. They should be banned from selling anything for months!

[@SimonVK3XEM]

Keep the mongrels honest, LOL.

[@johnjaco5544]

Chinese spy where,scary.

[@KingLoopie1]

They asked you to take down the video and faked fcc id's!? That's enough for me to never buy this...

[@Fantazier1]

CCP wants all that data.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

Probably why the app sends password data in plain text back to its server

[@joelongjr.5114]

Tidradio = crooks.

[@threadripper979]

I don't want to come off as a "sad ham," but I have some suggestions for reviewers such as yourself. If the radio isn't completely legal, don't review it. By legal I mean actually FCC type accepted, not just have a bogus sticker on the back. If it's a combination ham and GMRS radio, it ain't legal, so don't review it. If they somehow get by these hurdles, yet they have spurious emissions all over the place, don't review them. Giving these cheap chineseum radios any press if they don't meet legal requirements is just wrong. Getting more of these cheap pieces of garbage sold won't help the hobby.

[@HAMRADIODUDE]

I think you came off just fine.. thanks for the suggestions and not a demand. Allow me to play the devil's advocate for just a moment. If I receive a radio that has bad harmonics a fake FCC id and their Bluetooth app is literally stealing users passwords in plain text, and I don't say anything, I'll be hung from my neck for not telling everyone. For me, it feels no matter what I do, someone will try to say I was wrong and "should do it this way" (that's why I appreciate your suggestion as opposed to telling me what I should do).. so, it becomes conflicting. Then of course, where should I draw the line? FCC part certified radios which can be illegally modified for gmrs? That would mean no Yaesu, icom, Motorola, etc.... So I felt I did the best I could making the public aware and hopefully getting people to realize they've sent this company their passwords in plain text....while I understand what you're suggesting and again appreciate that, I don't know if it's that easy? I have an idea for companies like Yaesu, icom, and Kenwood to potentially kill this issue, but at least 2 of those companies wouldn't give me the time of day....

[@majic5zero]

Hey! Here's a novel idea. DON'T BUY THIS PIECE OF CRAP RADIO! Just my opinion, mind you.

[@r0naldzuccala198]

Wow. Wow. Wow. Well what can be said. Do I really want to be a ham after this. I think I'll pass for now. Thanks for your honesty. Ron z.WA3090SWL. THE NORTH AMERICAN SHORTWAVE RADIO AND TOY ROBOT MUSEUM.

[@cmerton]

Thieves. "WALKYTALKY WILL PUT 40 MILE! EXTREME PRIVATE FREQUENCY MAKE THEM TALK SECRET! BEST WALKYTALKY FOR USE! FOR ADULT! YOU BUY NOW" Horseshit.

[@paulsylvester1394]

Firmware errors can be understood but a false FCC sticker is something done on purpose with the goal of defrauding customers. They should be banned from selling anything for months!