Christian Stumbles When Given the Answer

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4 ай бұрын

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@odeebob7826
@odeebob7826 4 ай бұрын
May Allah grant you brothers the best of this life and the next, ameen 🤲
@publicpm8809
@publicpm8809 4 ай бұрын
Ameen
@MaryKassim-cd8mm
@MaryKassim-cd8mm 3 ай бұрын
This is proof positive that they do not read the scriptures that p Because if they did they would know the truth that the messiah was never harmed in any shape or form and that is the prophecy of the messiah and the book of psalms and in the book of Isaiah it tells you clearly that he was never harmed in any shape or form no resurrection no crucifixion no assumption it was fiction The arc angel Gabriel peace and blessings be upon them and all praises to the creator took the archangel The task A blessed task Of taking the messiah open to the heavens and and this supplication he gave was answered by a law allah That he made in the garden And it clearly states In the book of isla In the book of Isaiah That the archangel Gabriel took him up into the heaven Peace and blessings be upon them
@VetrYulr
@VetrYulr 4 ай бұрын
“Name me the scholars” *Names Scholars* “Scholars can be wrong”
@gobah
@gobah 4 ай бұрын
It might not have answered the question to HIS satisfaction, but I love that answer. We often talk about the scientific miracles, historical truths, miracles, numerology, things that couldn’t have been known, etc. but the EFFECT of the Quran is too often understated. To add, it also birthed centuries of great scientific achievements, advancements in social services, curiosity about the natural world, great people, excellence, etc etc etc because people wanted to understand more about Allah’s creation, wanted to build community services to serve people and please Allah, logical thinking, great books, and many other things that influenced the whole world and led us to point we’re at today. It brought about centuries of excellence, it was a true awakening for mankind and it emerged from an area that had known nothing but warring bedouin tribes for centuries. It was a true mercy, blessing, and revival for mankind, Alhamdulillah. I could write a book about how it influenced the world and it’ll still be drastically understated. Maybe I should actually. P.S. Christianity didn’t influence the world in nearly the same way, and Christianity was heavily influenced by Islam after the emergence and rapid expansion of Islam. You could argue that the birth of the United States of America or even the industrial revolution are nearer competitors, but I don’t believe either would’ve happened without Islam. Islam had a huge influence on Europe and the rest of the world. The effects of Islam are a HUGE MIRACLE.
@ElyasQuick1
@ElyasQuick1 4 ай бұрын
What is more believable : 1) Orphan shepherd in the middle of nowhere who couldn’t read and write suddenly at age 40 and in just short period of 23 years all by himself fashions over night an entire global world dominating civilization, establishes a new philosophy of human thought, action and behavior, revolutionizes every aspect of society and somehow manages to create the greatest book in history of human race while at the same time being an excellent and unmatched political visionary, statesman, administrator, diplomat, warrior, general, commander, social and moral reformer, lawgiver, judge, public speaker, religious preacher, devoted husband, loyal companion, loving father and faithful friend. 2) Divine intervention. Answer is obviously 2.
@HMJKS2000
@HMJKS2000 4 ай бұрын
It’s not about what’s believable it’s about what’s true. A child might not believe in gravity or it’s affects but it exists and is true. If you explain electromagnetism to a child they may not believe you but doesn’t change that it’s real and true. You might not be able to convince food science to an average person but it doesn’t change that it’s true. There are many things in our life that may not be believable but it’s true. Like people who have survived being hit by lighting, surviving dangerous accidents, etc and the reverse where a small trip leave someone paralyzed.
@Moballack
@Moballack 4 ай бұрын
1) that doesn't refutes divine intervention... all that you listed were possible cuz of divine intervention
@MuammarQadaffi
@MuammarQadaffi 3 ай бұрын
So you accept all of the mental gymnastics necessary to reject the prophethood of Muhammad PBUH? Well, reject that single argument at least.@@HMJKS2000
@AroundTheclock-iy3te
@AroundTheclock-iy3te 2 ай бұрын
Mohamed is dead and buried and makes no contribution to Muslims today.. Yet they continue to dead dream about his accomplishments or lack thereof.
@mohamedshaafi9581
@mohamedshaafi9581 3 ай бұрын
Oh Turner of hearts turn his heart towards Your deen his family, friends and loved ones too n keep their hearts n our hearts firm upon Your deen Ameen.
@Scumophobe
@Scumophobe 4 ай бұрын
I like hamza’s style, he doesn’t let these fools get away with their nonsense
@abdulqadirmohamed3316
@abdulqadirmohamed3316 3 ай бұрын
It’s straight forward no nonsense or trying to please everyones ego and weird mindset
@mansoormullan8994
@mansoormullan8994 4 ай бұрын
Can you hear the sarcasm in the callers voice. He has a veil over his eyes. Well done for trying to keep him to an academic and intellectual level
@Lynwood_Jackson
@Lynwood_Jackson 4 ай бұрын
The final remarks were so good. Masha'Allah. Very very exceedingly well put, for Allah is the Best of Planners, All-knowing.
@andreabaile8694
@andreabaile8694 4 ай бұрын
If am not wrong this brother also called Muslim lantern his voice sounds very familiar, he will get his intuition and innate full filled with truth inshallah. Has he keeps knocking the doors like this.
@ElyasQuick1
@ElyasQuick1 4 ай бұрын
Quran is a reminder of what happened in the past, guidance for the present and warning of the future. Quran is a book of guidance. It’s a life manual. It teaches you how to live your life in the most correct and efficient way possible. Quran safeguards you from all evil and harm in the world and leads you to all that is good.
@yington
@yington 4 ай бұрын
It gives guidance to a man for how to deal with an unruly wife. What about the guidance to a wife for how to deal with an unruly husband?
@ElyasQuick1
@ElyasQuick1 4 ай бұрын
@@yington Wife can complain to Qadi.
@yington
@yington 4 ай бұрын
@@ElyasQuick1 But where is the Quranic guidance, in the way is given to men?
@ElyasQuick1
@ElyasQuick1 4 ай бұрын
@@yington In the Quran and Sunnah.
@yington
@yington 4 ай бұрын
@@ElyasQuick1 Where exactly in the Quran does it say this? And why does it need to lay out such specific rules for men for how to handle wife, but not the other way around?
@homtanks7259
@homtanks7259 4 ай бұрын
JazakAllah'u khairan brothers 👌🏻
@superheronebil
@superheronebil 4 ай бұрын
AJ (the Christian guest) sounds exactly like the person who talked to Muslim Lantern. The video is titled i believe "Loud Christian confronts a Muslim on the bible". Yall should check it out.
@midojaara3459
@midojaara3459 4 ай бұрын
Jazak Allah Khair for cutting up Arena streams❤
@midojaara3459
@midojaara3459 4 ай бұрын
@@Noway-rh7ci Welp, that's what we got now. Something better than nothing after all. I can only support Da'wah through du'a, if i had money I'd support financially. insha'Allah one day ❤️
@Lynwood_Jackson
@Lynwood_Jackson 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I needed a good laugh today.
@bigballs7911
@bigballs7911 4 ай бұрын
31:48 The christian said an illiterate man producing literature is impossible. Then the second he realizes he's talking about prophet Muhammad (saw) he completely changes his mind. He acts like something he just claimed impossible a few moments ago actually happening is not a miracle.
@theuralictribes5689
@theuralictribes5689 4 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter because Mohammed was deceived by Satan who changed and corrupted the Old and New Testaments and from that he created the Quran and presented it to Mohammed when Satan disguised himself as Gabriel.
@thedrlivingston4953
@thedrlivingston4953 4 ай бұрын
Precisely. Admit when you're dead in your own water.
@AroundTheclock-iy3te
@AroundTheclock-iy3te 2 ай бұрын
You religion is only about singing praises of Mohamed, and tell how wonderful a man he was. What actually is the redeeming value in this? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
@bigballs7911
@bigballs7911 2 ай бұрын
@@AroundTheclock-iy3te 🤡
@gregharvey-lb3hg
@gregharvey-lb3hg Ай бұрын
@@AroundTheclock-iy3te?
@mrsolo2859
@mrsolo2859 4 ай бұрын
If you tell 5 years old child about this he will understand but some people are so deceived by Paul that they are deaf and blind.
@ElyasQuick1
@ElyasQuick1 4 ай бұрын
Islam is truth because Islam teaches strict monotheism, instills the best way of life for an individual, offers the best reorganization of society and state, and provides answers to existential questions. Religion that calls you to submit to The Almighty, commands you to live a clean life, and tells you to enjoin good and eradicate evil - such religion cannot be false. This is why Islam is the truth.
@Seeker-ec1dd
@Seeker-ec1dd 4 ай бұрын
In a monotheistic religion, why do you need to kiss a stone, and the stone is supposed to come to life at the day of judgement and intercede on your behalf. Stone coming to life looks like a pagan belief. That also makes it look like God does not already know everything, and a stone can influence God in his judgement.
@ElyasQuick1
@ElyasQuick1 4 ай бұрын
@@Seeker-ec1dd The Black Stone can do no good or harm, we touch and kiss it to fulfill the Sunnah because the Prophet ‎ﷺ did it. (Bukhari 1597) The Black Stone is from Paradise. It was originally white, but sins of the descendants of Adam made it black. (Tirmidhi 877, Mishkat al-Masabih 2577) Touching The Black Stone is a means by which Allah ﷻ forgives our sins like prayer or any other act of worship or a good deed like charity, salah, etc. (Tirmidhi 959, Nasai 2919)
@ElyasQuick1
@ElyasQuick1 4 ай бұрын
@@Seeker-ec1dd Stone itself doesn’t benefit us or harm us. It’s Allah who rewards us after we fulfill the Sunnah which is kissing it. Just like when you do ablution (wudu) and your sins get forgiven for doing ablution. Who forgives your sins? Water? No. Water is useless by itself. It’s Allah who forgives your sins after you do what He commanded you to do - which is ablution. Allah said to follow and emulate the Prophet ‎ﷺ > Prophet ‎ﷺ kissed the Black Stone, thus establishing the Sunnah action > So do we kiss the stone as a Sunnah act because the Prophet ‎ﷺ did it > And after we touch the stone Allah forgives our sins for fulfilling the Sunnah of the Prophet ‎ﷺ.
@Hnigma
@Hnigma 4 ай бұрын
@@Seeker-ec1dd the black stone is irrelevant when it comes to Islam's theology m8 We don't have to kiss the black stone to be Muslims It is a piece of stone after all It doesn't benefit nor harm
@ChrisBrown22082
@ChrisBrown22082 4 ай бұрын
I could create a new false religion that meets all your specified criteria. Therefore, your criteria are not sufficient to deem Islam true.
@Bouyati.tlb96
@Bouyati.tlb96 4 ай бұрын
Very informative and fun discussion my Allah guide him to the truth
@publicpm8809
@publicpm8809 4 ай бұрын
Ameen
@faisalmohamed6058
@faisalmohamed6058 4 ай бұрын
Is the membership available around the world? I couldn’t find the membership button
@freeman7983
@freeman7983 4 ай бұрын
Baraka ALLAUH fikoum
@zanzillahsaruji9966
@zanzillahsaruji9966 4 ай бұрын
The teaching of Quran is still consistent and never change since the time of Prophet Muhammad until today that is why Islam is the fastest growing religion in the World...Alhamdulillah
@yusufbey1587
@yusufbey1587 4 ай бұрын
When hamza started laughing 😂😂😂
@emmanuelrequena9636
@emmanuelrequena9636 4 ай бұрын
Because he's a 🤡
@yusufbey1587
@yusufbey1587 4 ай бұрын
@@emmanuelrequena9636 no it’s because that guy with a small brain said Christianity started in a pagan region lmao
@konstantinosskordos8645
@konstantinosskordos8645 4 ай бұрын
@@emmanuelrequena9636 and?
@fghn5639
@fghn5639 4 ай бұрын
He shouldn't actually.
@yusufbey1587
@yusufbey1587 4 ай бұрын
@@fghn5639 why not most Christians are comedians without even knowing it
@kbabym86
@kbabym86 3 ай бұрын
I dont understand how you all deal with these people every day 😂 id lose it. MashaAllah may Allah bless you and your devotion.
@Tru-Stories-tv
@Tru-Stories-tv 4 ай бұрын
Allah hu Akbar
@tonimachine2544
@tonimachine2544 4 ай бұрын
Why the jumpscare at the end man. Hearing a calm discussion the whole time just to be surprised by an explosion soundeffekt with full volume.
@framefilmstudio
@framefilmstudio 3 ай бұрын
sneaky caller 🏮 😅
@yaqubjordaan9854
@yaqubjordaan9854 4 ай бұрын
Everyone keeps calling Raphael, AJ😂 the slyness of these Christians
@odeebob7826
@odeebob7826 4 ай бұрын
" Those to whom We gave the Scripture know him as they know their own sons. But indeed, a party of them conceal the truth while they know [it]. " Quran 2 : 146
@hammadmaqsood7884
@hammadmaqsood7884 4 ай бұрын
so his argument was "well Christianity came before Islam so therefore Islam is not from Allah" and then goes on to say Christianity changed the roman pagans when in reality Christianity just introduced a new form of paganism to the romans. The same pagan concepts are there - blood sacrifice of humans, trinity of gods, god as a human, god with a son, etc. So no, Christianity was just a new age paganism.
@0786AHA
@0786AHA 4 ай бұрын
Read James Valiant how Romans created Christianity to convert Greek gods worshipers into Christianity... That's why Christianity resembles Greek mythological Gods story....
@arabianknight0000
@arabianknight0000 4 ай бұрын
AJ: "I didn't want to go down that road because I don't want my delusions shattered"
@alberxenos
@alberxenos 4 ай бұрын
Assalamu’alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ
@abdullahn.8715
@abdullahn.8715 4 ай бұрын
وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته
@mammid9622
@mammid9622 4 ай бұрын
Where is the full live?
@homtanks7259
@homtanks7259 4 ай бұрын
Doesn't exist
@mammid9622
@mammid9622 4 ай бұрын
@@homtanks7259 why
@homtanks7259
@homtanks7259 4 ай бұрын
@@mammid9622 you will still be able to see everything, just divided into different videos
@Ensenoman8
@Ensenoman8 4 ай бұрын
@homtanks7259 Why didn't you mention that it's members only? Are you embarrassed too?
@homtanks7259
@homtanks7259 4 ай бұрын
​@@Ensenoman8 take a chill pill
@ernielernie5887
@ernielernie5887 4 ай бұрын
Christian asks: How is it a miracle if it’s from Allah? Then he proceeds givning example of Jesus doing a miracle which he sees as a god… Double standard lol..
@newwaytrader
@newwaytrader 4 ай бұрын
Hamzas & team whole modus operandi is to divert the question
@YAHAYAH_369
@YAHAYAH_369 4 ай бұрын
Thank You For 🔯 Your Service 🌞🌈 Allah Hu Akbar ❤️
@sbludba
@sbludba 4 ай бұрын
Lapu Lapu was Philipino. Queztelcotle was Aztec.
@MadjidLaloui-el5gt
@MadjidLaloui-el5gt 4 ай бұрын
they don't even know that coran is the words of god, a god speakin to a man is a miracle a man receiving words from an Angel is a miracle, a miracle revealing miracles that happened in past time in différent parts of the world is a miracle (causé it's a hidden truth that has been braughtto surface), a man who does not read or wrote revealing all that to human and still the impact of that truth still growing is a miracle
@maxmorris4562
@maxmorris4562 4 ай бұрын
29:10 31:47, 33:39
@emmanuelrequena9636
@emmanuelrequena9636 4 ай бұрын
Bart Ehrman: “To be sure, of all the hundreds of thousands of textual changes found among our manuscripts, most of them are completely insignificant, immaterial, of no real importance for anything other than showing that scribes could not spell or keep focused any better than the rest of us.”
@d-digital3612
@d-digital3612 4 ай бұрын
His question was why do you think the Quran was a miracle and they went to who wrote the Bible.
@desmondmansingh5175
@desmondmansingh5175 4 ай бұрын
Was a simple question wich they couldn't answer but rather did muslim shuffle!!
@cartiace6522
@cartiace6522 4 ай бұрын
they literally did answer it lol? Even AJ admitted that an illiterate man from 7th century Arabia wouldn't have been able to conjure up any sort of literature yet he seems to have issues with accepting that the prophet did in fact 'miraculously' authored the Quran despite the fact that the prophet couldn't read nor write which is an essential skill that would have allowed him to plagiarize the bible and the torah.....he was neither the son of a king nor a poet but yet managed to influence the vast majority of Arabs (who were known to be quite fond of poetries and literature) to accept Islam....also that the fact that contemporary poets of his era couldn't produce anything like the quran also further proves its miraculousness...
@user-mg6ew2zf7p
@user-mg6ew2zf7p 4 ай бұрын
This man is also in muslim lantern! Brother Muhammad Ali mentioned everything on this guy and this man after all of those just replied “what is miracle on roman empire being defeated?” He can also say ukraine will defeat russia” Brothers in islam, this guy is just wasting your time! But this is also good for viewers! Just for them to judge!
@farhat5325
@farhat5325 4 ай бұрын
Thats a slam dunk of a question, why is a "disciple and an eye witnesses" (Matthew) copying his book from someone who who is neither a disciple nor an eye witness?
@ElyasQuick1
@ElyasQuick1 4 ай бұрын
*Quran Is The Greatest Book In History* Quran is objectively and undeniably the greatest book ever. It serves as a guidance for 2 billion people around the world which makes them not only reorganize their personal lives around it’s teachings but also completely restructure social, political, economical and communal aspects of their societies. Quran served and still continues to serve as the constitution of over thirty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire. It is an unmatched linguistic miracle which is used as a basis and standard of Arabic grammar and which became and still remains the most read, listened to and recited book in history that is currently memorized in it’s entirety by around 20 million of people. Imagine this : There are 2 billion Muslims in the world. Each and every Muslim memorized at least 3 pages of the Quran. There are 5 prayers a day. At least 3 pages are read every prayer. That’s not counting that a lot of people read whole chapters every day outside of prayers, a huge number of people play Quran recitations in their homes even when they’re not actively reading it, they listen to it. Do the math. Numbers are staggering. 
It is the most read, memorized and listened book in the world. No other book has stronger grip over people’s hearts and minds than the Quran. No other book has that kind of influence over that many number of people. This is why Quran is objectively and undeniably the greatest book ever.
@desmondmansingh5175
@desmondmansingh5175 4 ай бұрын
Greatest book that copied almost everything in there but just changed it a bit! READ HEBREWS:4V12
@Skibbityboo0580
@Skibbityboo0580 4 ай бұрын
Do you feel it should be the life manual, and guidance of the whole world, despite what the rest of the world believes, and would you take life, and give your own to prove that?
@odeebob7826
@odeebob7826 4 ай бұрын
" So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn. " Quran 2 : 79
@ren.8137
@ren.8137 4 ай бұрын
As a muslim even I recognize that the answer subhoor gave was not satisfactory. Its fine that he doesnt know the answer, his main focus is islam vs science. Muslim lantern has a video about this where he actually answers it, its titled “Arabic christian learns Quran miracle” or something along those lines. I suggest yall go watch that.
@ren.8137
@ren.8137 4 ай бұрын
Reason: His answer says why the effects of the Quran are miraculous, not why the QURAN ITSELF is miraculous.
@letmetalk2240
@letmetalk2240 4 ай бұрын
@@ren.8137 When the effects are miraculous it can also mean the Quran's miracles.
@almustafaharoun3825
@almustafaharoun3825 4 ай бұрын
I can understand why he wasn't satisfied with brother Subboor's answer. The impact of Islam was indeed miraculous, but only if you look at the details of it, that it started with a single man in a pagan society that fiercely fought against his message and persecuted him for it. Someone who looks at the impact alone can just say that liberalism also had a big impact, does that mean it's from God? Of course not, liberalism was something Europeans needed to turn to after they suffered from how the kings weaponized Christianity and used the church to keep them under control, so it was easily accepted escape the injustice Christianity was used to justify.
@abyllaamjah2170
@abyllaamjah2170 4 ай бұрын
He don't need any answers. He just need an attention 😅
@ZiIIous
@ZiIIous 4 ай бұрын
So now we have to pay to watch the livestream. Non-Muslims aren't going to pay to a random Muslim channel to learn Islam. That's counterproductive. Shame.
@homtanks7259
@homtanks7259 4 ай бұрын
Yes you need money to do dawah, stop whining
@homtanks7259
@homtanks7259 4 ай бұрын
... but you gonna still se the best bits of the live stream in separate videos like this one
@h.j.r.
@h.j.r. 4 ай бұрын
Bro why are all hamzas little minions so aggressive, relax
@h.j.r.
@h.j.r. 4 ай бұрын
May Allah purify hamzas intentions and keep him humble
@ZiIIous
@ZiIIous 4 ай бұрын
@@h.j.r. Ameen.
@rabiashah3191
@rabiashah3191 4 ай бұрын
This guy is a well known troll. He start in a reasonable manner then just escalates. Ive seen him in other streams. No wonder hamza is so suspicious.
@mehdirifai481
@mehdirifai481 4 ай бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@michalisfroudakis2142
@michalisfroudakis2142 4 ай бұрын
istorical analysis is it the same with istorical proof ??
@muqiwara2626
@muqiwara2626 4 ай бұрын
Hes the guy who joined TheMuslimLanterns livestream... He is not sincere and possibly a waste of time, may Allah guide the sincere
@redarmy1786
@redarmy1786 4 ай бұрын
This guy came on the Muslim Lanterns channel and got destroyed too😅
@superheronebil
@superheronebil 4 ай бұрын
"Loud Christian confronts a Muslim on the bible"
@markdoughty8780
@markdoughty8780 4 ай бұрын
A good interfaith discussion. It's a shame AJ wasn't more clued up on Islam and The Qur'an; his basic knowledge and shortcomings on the subject let him down here. Still, he was civilly and respectfully dealt with, as always, which is a credit to his Islamic interlocutors. On the question of why did Luke and Matthew use 70% of Mark's Gospel to compose their own? Well, Mark was the scribe of Peter. who was Jesus's chief/head disciple and would have walked shoulder to shoulder with Peter, so if they're going to go to anybody for verification of what their writing, it makes sense to use Mark, as Peter was an illiterate fisherman who wasn't able to write himself - much the same as Muhammad. Thanks for uploading and looking forward to similar discourses in the future.
@Rabidracc000ns
@Rabidracc000ns 4 ай бұрын
Dang I thought I’d be able to comment before elyas starts copy pasting for once but he beat me to it
@tehnoobclone
@tehnoobclone 4 ай бұрын
On brother Subboor's sociological miracle, I always like to give this hypothetical analogy: The first Harry Potter book released as of writing almost 23 years ago in November 22, 2001. If that single book had the same sociological impact of the Quran; *_as of today_* that single book would have only just been completed since it was authored _piecemeal primarily by word of mouth_ but would have already united the UK with Ireland and France, completely abolishing the previous religions from its monarchy & government, JK Rowling having ruled as their witch queen for the past 2 years, her followers believe themselves as wizards, and they are primed to conquer the rest of Europe entirely by 2036 and build one of the largest, prosperous, & most advancing empires for the next 600 years. Also, the book set a new unchallenged standard for the English language moving forward and JK Rowling was illiterate. And people compare the Quran to Shakespeare?
@ahmadmansouri1725
@ahmadmansouri1725 2 ай бұрын
They phrased their challenge in a bad way I think. It’s simple if your equivalent example for what the Quran did is what prophets do which are miracles, than you would agree that the Quran is a miracle.
@huduiddrisu2900
@huduiddrisu2900 4 ай бұрын
I have watched this guy on another Muslim platform which he said he doesn’t care about the authenticity of the Bible.
@terryprice1923
@terryprice1923 4 ай бұрын
Yes the bible
@jiyu5990
@jiyu5990 4 ай бұрын
For everyone who asks „why do I have to pay money“ it's embarrassing that you ask,I could never ask anyone such a thing. It's his account, his channel that we've been watching for free for years, he shouldn't have to explain why he needs the money for his channel !!! That's none of your business!!!!!! Become a member or don't ,stop begging. bay.
@MrMudassaranwar
@MrMudassaranwar 4 ай бұрын
So disingenuous. I feel sorry for this guy.
@mustafam7431
@mustafam7431 4 ай бұрын
He says Christianity did the same thing, Romans were worshipping Ceasar, they were pagans.. Unfortunately, they are still pagans, they were worshipping Caesar, a man, now they are worshipping another man. What has been changed??
@adnaancassiem2856
@adnaancassiem2856 4 ай бұрын
Because he don't have an answer. As simple as that.
@GoYouGoME
@GoYouGoME 4 ай бұрын
Bro asked if the Quran is coming from Allah (swt), then how is that a miracle......
@raygunes3190
@raygunes3190 4 ай бұрын
AJ was waist of my time, the only thing that I enjoyed is you guys intellect level, Masallah my brothers.
@terryprice1923
@terryprice1923 4 ай бұрын
Hsmaz yoy tell me your Profits and who told them what to wrire or did they just makevit up
@galexartist6845
@galexartist6845 4 ай бұрын
والله شامل لا يوجد دين عالمي. الإله الشامل ليس دينيًا. وتنقسم المعتقدات والآراء. الله واحد. الشيطان هو صانع البلبلة ويخلق الأعداء بين الناس. الدين هو سبب الكثير من الجدل والنقاش. الشيطان يخلق الانقسامات. الله يجمع الناس في وحدة. الشيطان حرب واتهامات. الله هو الفهم والسلام.
@A.Majeed_
@A.Majeed_ 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate your work for the sake of Allah. But, why have you decided to make the last Arena stream members-only?
@terryprice1923
@terryprice1923 4 ай бұрын
No its not he answered you
@terryprice1923
@terryprice1923 4 ай бұрын
Not story's fact recorded by scholars.
@moojza
@moojza 4 ай бұрын
So he essentially believes the Quran came from Allah. If its only comparison is God sending a prophet in Jesus then Muhammad pbuh by his own standard
@user-mg6ew2zf7p
@user-mg6ew2zf7p 4 ай бұрын
This man is also in muslim lantern video😂 he just wasting your time! This man is not sincere😂
@desmondmansingh5175
@desmondmansingh5175 4 ай бұрын
So why was muslim lantern so insincere with godlogic,limited his questions to two because muhammed ali (deceiver) like to discussions with not so verses people!!
@Westlondon122
@Westlondon122 4 ай бұрын
Let Sam shamoun on this please hamza
@terryprice1923
@terryprice1923 4 ай бұрын
So your sating the quran is based on predictions by whome
@user-hi5xq7nx2y
@user-hi5xq7nx2y 4 ай бұрын
There are facts in the Qur’an that actually happened like .. Ar-Rūm (30) The Byzantines have been defeated (2) In the nearest land.But they, after their defeat, will overcome (3) Within three to nine years. To Allāh belongs the command [i.e., decree] before and after. And that day the believers will rejoice (4) … How could the Qur’an know that the Byzantines would be defeated within a few years?! Did you know that at the time this verse was revealed, the Muslims were weak and were hoping for the victory of the Byzantines over the Persians (because the Byzantines were Christians and close to the Muslims, unlike the Persians who worship fire)
@ahmednamvar7272
@ahmednamvar7272 4 ай бұрын
This guy was on with Muslim Lantern and got schooled, hence why he’s hidden his camera.
@jamesrobinson1639
@jamesrobinson1639 4 ай бұрын
How do you explain at the 33:34 mark the Christian giving credit to Allah for revealing the Quran? What is Surah 33.34? Did Hamza deny Allah wrote the Quran? Does Hamza then deny Isa's (pbuh) miracle of his infant rebuke? Does Hamza deny Isa (pbuh) breathing on mud bringing it to life? Did not Muhammad (pbuh) confirm Isa (pbuh) rose before the eyes of his disciples and sat down at the right hand of Allah? How then would it be hard to turn water into wine? What about the table? Is that the last supper as Muslim scholars think, or the feeding of 5000? The feeding of 5000 would explain why after the table from heaven was sent down Isa (pbuh) said they would be cursed if they disbelieve. Did not Muhammad (pbuh) clarify Isa (pbuh) intercede on behalf of Christianity? " I had no control over them when You took me away from them... However. If you choose to forgive them, You are the most merciful." (Paraphrased from English interpretation) Defend your LORD and His message first, then defend His Nabi. Focus on Nabi. If Allah does not send a warner to Gog and Magog, someone lied. If Allah does not judge each according to what they received, someone lied. Let every man (except Mussa, Isa and Muhammad (pbuh) be found a liar and the LORD be found true. (Look that one up.)
@letmetalk2240
@letmetalk2240 4 ай бұрын
Let's not forget that Jesus himself said by himself he can do nothing. So whatever miracles you mentioned are God's works; not Jesus.
@newwaytrader
@newwaytrader 4 ай бұрын
Zoroaster brought similar sociological change thru religion in his time
@cartiace6522
@cartiace6522 4 ай бұрын
to the extent of Islam and Christianity? Zoroastrianism barely managed to spread outside of persia despite having significant backings of the achaemenid empire as this was their state religion....if God decreed then it definitely would have had the same standings or influence as Islam and Christianity
@katyana92
@katyana92 4 ай бұрын
Guys be simple and do not deflect Quran is a miracle because it changes a pagan society within 23 years instead of Christianity which needed more than 300 years old to conquer Rome and even though there religion kept pagan practices. Please be simple. Complication is annoying 😒
@bakarycham4708
@bakarycham4708 4 ай бұрын
There has never existed a religion called Christianity
@falagar1929
@falagar1929 4 ай бұрын
3:00 you forgot about the biggest one..the one that helped the islam spread worldwide... The Ottomans... :)
@MuammarQadaffi
@MuammarQadaffi 3 ай бұрын
The earlier caliphates such as the Rashiduns and Abbasids had a greater impact.
@AhmedMiad
@AhmedMiad 3 ай бұрын
The ummayad is the biggest .
@Westlondon122
@Westlondon122 4 ай бұрын
Why are u running from sam shamoun
@nizalnm
@nizalnm 4 ай бұрын
I wished brother Hamza could be more patient with this person, as I haven't seen AJ acting in any offensive manner that warrants such level of aggressive putdown. He could still be well meaning, just ignorant of the many supplementary facts that the rest of the panel were already appreciative of that supports the introductory arguments that brother Subboor has made. He was not aware of the wonderful intricacies of the Quranic linguistic miracle, of its beauty that stumps even the best Arabic poets of the time, he was not aware of the various practical and sound principles exhorted by the Quran for us to live by that surpasses any secular standards. To him, Quran was just a book, a foreign scripture from an alien culture. I wish he'd be given the opportunity to listen to further elaborations on how exactly Quran is miraculous, instead of being cut off when he expressed his ignorant unimpressedness.
@tamrinbinamboala-5997
@tamrinbinamboala-5997 4 ай бұрын
But i think hamzah couldn't be patient because discussing with idiot is a waste of time. AJ is using the double standard of miracle when it applies to christianity
@cartiace6522
@cartiace6522 4 ай бұрын
honestly, AJ wasn't sincere at all when he failed to recognize that a person in 7th century Arabia who couldn't read nor write authored the Quran when he admitted that no illiterate man can produce any type of literature let alone author the Quran
@hansgul8923
@hansgul8923 4 ай бұрын
He was gaslighting, these kind of ppl have no integrity.
@peacemonger2906
@peacemonger2906 4 ай бұрын
IPhone, electricity even Facebook had a great impact on the world, this doesn’t make it a miracle. We need to do a better job of presenting our arguments. It looked like instead of engaging with the caller you were just taking him for a ride. Let’s do better inshaallah.
@mmmmmm-op8iz
@mmmmmm-op8iz 4 ай бұрын
When you defend your scripture and belief don't use your scripture which you want to apporove . You say : the sky is White . And we ask : where is your evidence? you say : beceause my Father says so . This will be absolutely absurd .
@MuammarQadaffi
@MuammarQadaffi 3 ай бұрын
The Christians do this, not us. With a little searching you can find seas of evidence. I will not bring it to you, as I am sure you are capable of searching for it yourself.
@PocoLoco-hu2qq
@PocoLoco-hu2qq 3 ай бұрын
you guys are dealing with people that are not open minded . people whom have an ego way bigger then his intelligence, no knowledge of anything but thinks he knows it all . and can't even understand basic words or questions .
@TheCakeSlayer
@TheCakeSlayer 4 ай бұрын
To be fair, you did not answer his question about the miracle of the Quran.
@foolsfury9958
@foolsfury9958 4 ай бұрын
Qur'an is the direct word of God almighty, how can it NOT be a miracle. Firstly. Secondly, the way it changed arabic and how no poet could ever touch it, and yet everyone understood the meanings despite being used in completely unfamiliar ways. Prophecies made, fulfilled ones and yet to be fulfilled ones. Never missed the mark on them and never will, miracle. History. Correcting past mistakes in the Bible, for example who the ruler was during Josephs time. The Bible says it was pharaoh, Qur'an says it was a King, not a pharaoh. Recent discovery shows it was indeed a King, not a pharaoh. Miracle. The prerequisite for something to be a miracle, is that it has to be from God almighty. And since the Qur'an is from God, word for word, directly, then the entire thing is a living Miracle. Anytime you're holding a Qur'an, you're holding a miracle.
@OriginalQuranOnlyChristian
@OriginalQuranOnlyChristian 4 ай бұрын
Yah Hamza and you stumbled when i asked you about Surah 65:4, n made up stuff that none of the Tafsirs agree with, then Kicked me like a Cry Baby.
@terryprice1923
@terryprice1923 4 ай бұрын
Ypi demonstrated nothing about the bible
@canonogic
@canonogic 4 ай бұрын
How is getting revelation from God NOT a miracle looop
@nazeemsolomons9446
@nazeemsolomons9446 4 ай бұрын
Did Jesus preach Christianity, no. Did Jesus preach the trinity no. The only true religion is Islam, bring a book like the Quran, nobody can.
@terryprice1923
@terryprice1923 4 ай бұрын
Not the same topics The Quran is written by man
@arefalawadhi7364
@arefalawadhi7364 3 ай бұрын
I was not impressed with brother Hamza laughing & intersecting.. plus the cristian wanted to know about Quran but Hamza high jacked the duscusion toward a different subject..
@Ensenoman8
@Ensenoman8 4 ай бұрын
Great job gatekeeping the Arena to paying members. I was the guy saving them to "watch later" so I could listen when I drive at work. The Arena goes up on Friday evening EST in America and I like to spend my evenings with my family. I catch maybe 15 min tops on live. You mentioned in other arenas that you dont understand why people dont come on yet you pull moves like this. You JUST had a gofundme set up to cover expenses. I've been following Ef Dawah and you by association for a good 3-4 years now. I can see now why you left. I can also see that I'm now glad I gave EF dwaha my membership over yours. You not only lost a potential member, but you lost a long time subscriber. This is not even adding to the fact that you've turned it into a reality show. You insult guests regularly, your mannerisms have actually gotten worse over these last couple months. You raise your Mic volume to an absurdly high level while other panelists like Yemeni and Sharif have their mics barely audible sometimes. How do you not get that most of your views come in after your livestream? Its like moving backwards. You can still cut up the arena for KZbin shorts and shorter videos. I encourage others to unsub from this channel. Dont give this geezer any more of your time, energy, and money.
@teeteeshouse
@teeteeshouse 4 ай бұрын
lol @ “gatekeeping”, why does everyone expect free content and entertainment nowadays?
@Ensenoman8
@Ensenoman8 4 ай бұрын
@teeteeshouse Crazy how on the context of DAWAH you wrote entertainment. Mashallah, you must've been at the top of your class.
@hassanabedi4780
@hassanabedi4780 4 ай бұрын
Your encouragement has been noted and ignored. The Arena isn't for those looking for adab, it's for those who want to see actual debates, granted it goes into entertainment more often than not but such is life. Many of us find it to be a suitable alternative to self-important mind numbing content flooding the internet. EFDawah do great work, that doesn't mean that the Arena doesn't. If it's not your cup of tea then so be it. And just so we're clear Hamza doesn't go on a spree unless the guests become unreasonable, frankly it's a breath of fresh air to see a brother putting a ponce in his/her place.
@HamzasDen
@HamzasDen 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your feed back 😀
@Ensenoman8
@Ensenoman8 4 ай бұрын
@hassanabedi4780 Funny how you decide to comment quickly to regurgitate typical Hamza fan boy arguments, yet you completely ignored what I wrote. You all love the debates, but you can't even debate yourselves. I've followed Hamza and EF Dawah for YEARS. I've watched more content from both channels than most people. I've seen nearly every historicity stream, Perfect Storm, Arena, and Open Forum etc. I've even donated during certain streams. You mistake me for some random guy who only has a problem with Hamza. I'm on the road a lot, and when I'm driving, I watch and listen to all the dawah channels. I also catch up on missed live streams. And let's be honest. No one's watching Hamzas livestreams at the shop. Those are the ones that should be members only since they tend to be a bit more personal. Stop acting like this is something to be taken lightly. It says a lot about you and your ilk when you don't care about adab. I can't stand it when Dawah channels fall off because of egotistical maniacs. This is why I stopped following Daniel Haq, Saajid Lipham, Ali Dawah and others like them. While people like Thought adventure podcast, Farid Responds, Dawah Wise struggle to get views despite their great work. The drop in quality Dawah material can only be blamed by dunces like you.
@m.a.m.n3444
@m.a.m.n3444 4 ай бұрын
This AJ guys intellectual and comprehension level is so low that my brain hurts. Guest should have satisfactory knowledge level about their own religion (at least) and the basic knowledge about the opponent believe. If not, its a total waste of time.
@saeedkagzi8792
@saeedkagzi8792 4 ай бұрын
Guys you lot took soo long to kick him off should off known fro the the very first question. Brothers should take a leaf of Muslim lantern channel.
@terryprice1923
@terryprice1923 4 ай бұрын
No, they dont copy they write the word of god . The Quran is written by man .
@terryprice1923
@terryprice1923 4 ай бұрын
Because he could tell others to write it fool
@terryprice1923
@terryprice1923 4 ай бұрын
The gospels are written by god though god
@bigballs7911
@bigballs7911 4 ай бұрын
The Bible doesn't even claim that. The bible is "an inspired work", its not the direct word of God.
@terryprice1923
@terryprice1923 4 ай бұрын
You discuss you say your right everything is wrong . Your quran is written after the bible .
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