Handgun Etiquette for Beginners

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In this video we will cover some of the most rookie mistakes that beginners make when it comes to handguns and revolvers. There may even be a few facts in here that can teach advanced handgunners something. We hope you enjoy the video and we have much more to come in the future.
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@KamakazeTaco
@KamakazeTaco 8 жыл бұрын
Not only should you not let the slide slam, you shouldn't fire a bullet out of the gun either. Those bullets going off create a lot of pressure in the barrel and just think of all that gun powder gunking up the barrel. You probably shouldn't touch the gun either, gonna get your finger grease all over it and ruin the finish.
@kangaroosky2916
@kangaroosky2916 8 жыл бұрын
lol
@r3dacted666
@r3dacted666 8 жыл бұрын
But where's all the fun in that? ;-;
@Domi-cu2id
@Domi-cu2id 8 жыл бұрын
it was a joke
@r3dacted666
@r3dacted666 8 жыл бұрын
+Domi Jeuckens No shit, Sherlock
@kurtiskaskowski5386
@kurtiskaskowski5386 8 жыл бұрын
First off, you get an 'A' for a great screen name, second I agree with your sarcasm. I never understood why some guys stress the slide slam no no on 1911s..
@UNLVRich
@UNLVRich 7 жыл бұрын
Dear beginners, If you're tired of hearing contradictory information on the Internet from self-proclaimed experts, the manufacturer of your firearm publishes a great book. It's called an owner's manual. Try reading it.
@Leatricaw
@Leatricaw 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks will try
@Mdmbchdr
@Mdmbchdr 2 жыл бұрын
@@Leatricaw Ok try
@BronzeCoin
@BronzeCoin 2 жыл бұрын
It's unbelievable how much people don't...
@Squamington
@Squamington 2 жыл бұрын
I will definitely try, went through 2 months of paperwork to get to this point but hopefully I can
@bleedthebeat1
@bleedthebeat1 Жыл бұрын
“DO NOT RIDE THE SLIDE FORWARD. FAILURE TO PROPERLY COMPLETE STEP 5 (b ) MAY INDUCE A STOPPAGE. 5. To chamber a cartridge release the slide by either: a. Pressing down on slide catch lever. b. Pulling back on the slide until slide catch lever drops clear of slide then, releasing the slide.” From the sig sauer manual for my 226
@lemminglobber
@lemminglobber 9 жыл бұрын
'God forbid you should be pistol whipping someone and it goes off.' Had me in stitches. Thanks for the video guys. Good fun and info as always.
@God-gn2yo
@God-gn2yo 7 жыл бұрын
"Don't dry fire without snap caps, they're cheap and easily available." ->Dry fires with no snap cap
@tymclane1
@tymclane1 8 жыл бұрын
Guys... if this is intended to be for beginners.... stop using all the crazy different vocabulary without explaining it. a beginner wouldnt know. Rim, cylinder, gaul, bearing, ejecter rod and 20 other different words.
@r3dacted666
@r3dacted666 8 жыл бұрын
If beginners want to know what those words mean, Google and a good ole fashioned Dictionary are available.
@Jacksonhasjacob
@Jacksonhasjacob 8 жыл бұрын
+Roy Rogers savage
@Purpose_Bilt
@Purpose_Bilt 8 жыл бұрын
Fuck that. I'm my day we had encyclopedias... what was it 19-20 volumes?
@ytwdh
@ytwdh 8 жыл бұрын
I inherited my Encyclopedia Brittanica from Grandma. I can tear down a 1911 and a blunderbuss.
@IchorX
@IchorX 7 жыл бұрын
+skankhunt42 Brilliant, just fucking brilliant!
@trollcontrol1696
@trollcontrol1696 8 жыл бұрын
I get what these fellas are saying but surely the manufacturers of these guns would make it so that you don't have to treat them like they're made of glass
@paulpugh2480
@paulpugh2480 2 жыл бұрын
👎 No, I dont think you get what they are saying.There not made of glass so if you want to dry fire (wich you should avoid as much as possible) you may get by without damaging the weapon, but the more you do it, the more likely you will damage the weapon.
@privateuser7
@privateuser7 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulpugh2480 that's not true. Most center-fire handguns built today (like glocks) can be dry fired as much as you want with no detriment. You actually have to dry fire a glock to disassemble it
@5jjt
@5jjt 12 күн бұрын
​@@privateuser7Glock recommends snap caps if practicing dry firing regularly. People have literally knocked out the breechface from dry firing too much without snap caps.
@PathinAZ
@PathinAZ 10 жыл бұрын
Watching you guys drop the slide should be a great reminder to all new and seasoned firearm practitioners. I've been shooting for about 27 yrs, and every once in a while, I'll do something that make's me go.."that wasn't good to do." My point is that no matter how much experience or training you have, mistakes will be made. Hopefully small ones that have no major consequences. I have always had the belief that someone who is 100% relaxed and comfortable using a firearm is somewhat dangerous. ALL of your attention has to be on EVERY move you do with a firearm, from closing the slide to muzzle direction. I ride a Harley, and I have the same belief towards that. I've been riding for 34 yrs and i have always said..the moment I become relaxed, carefree and comfortable riding will be my last day. Another great vid, thanks!
@jasonrebello5630
@jasonrebello5630 5 жыл бұрын
...as he dry fires the LC9 twice while Eric's talking! 😂 I'm not criticizing but it was just funny as hell
@craigharding6443
@craigharding6443 7 жыл бұрын
I lost a bit of respect for Iraqveteran8888 when I saw this video. The only guns I'd not dry fire are rim fire or side-lock double barrel shotguns. There might be more, but I don't know of them. I do know after 44 plus years in Bullseye competition and a few PPC years not to mention other types, I've seen almost everyone constantly dry firing, including me and it's part of proper order during competition after clearing your firearm. It's good etiquette. It's part of the reason folks like hickok45 constantly dry fires after clearing. It's old habit from competition days. It's what you do. As far as crystallizing the firing pin or damaging a revolver, I really never thought I'd see such nonsense from self appointed gun gurus. Really, he needs to stay far away from old wive's tales, topics like this if he wants to maintain credibility among many long time shooters. The other guy looked a bit embarrassed by it and tried to pull the subject to rim fire, but no, he kept at it. I remember back in the 1970's when I had the famous and now late gunsmith Bob Chow build me a couple of competition guns, he wouldn't work on them until I had at least 500 live rounds through them and 1,000 plus dry fires. Later, he sent them back with instructions for another 500 rounds live and 1,000 - 2,000 dry fires. Imagine that. I guess he didn't worry too much about crystallizing the pin. LOL The same with the Gunnery smiths in Minneapolis while they were building my PPC revolvers. They required thousands of dry fires prior to the start of the build and in the middle of the build. I asked about snap caps because I was fairly young. One told me they were for rim-fire or novice shooters and to save my money. Again, I like the guy and like most of the videos, but just think the old wive's tales should be left out.
@blades2255
@blades2255 4 жыл бұрын
Should never dry fire any firearm that doesn't belong to you! Unless you are buying or extremely serious about buying a used gun
@saxonlight
@saxonlight 10 жыл бұрын
If this was to be a video for 'beginners' I think you guys seriously missed the mark. Way too many terms a beginner would find meaningless without explanation, way too rushed, not focused.
@MrBrown-vp7ie
@MrBrown-vp7ie 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know what the term gall means luckily i'm one to research anyway. Good point.
@codingcrusader8275
@codingcrusader8275 5 жыл бұрын
Because google is ducking hard right? Or just looking at wat they point to. Stop babying beginners.
@jan98k
@jan98k 5 жыл бұрын
I so agree!! as a beginner!!
@InfiniteUmbra
@InfiniteUmbra 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@lolzlolz102
@lolzlolz102 4 жыл бұрын
@@codingcrusader8275 A proper informative video shouldn't require the viewer to seek outside sources...defeats the point of the video!
@chrishatchett9506
@chrishatchett9506 6 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video. I'm turning 21 next week and have been researching for almost a year and going to the range trying to learn safety tips and maintenance tips etc for firearms. I love that anytime I search something on KZbin I either see y'all or Hitch. Always great videos. Keep it up
@jakmak52
@jakmak52 5 жыл бұрын
When I visit my local gun shop for ammo, accessories, and targets, I ALWAYS carry the weapon in the original box or range bag and let the associate take the pistol out of the box (with my permission) for inspection and safety concerns. I'm truly amazed at the ignorance of some weapon owners who put others in imminent danger. Thank you for this vital information.
@clawhammer704
@clawhammer704 5 жыл бұрын
One of the main objectives I always instill in any shooter is to always be aware to keep the barrel pointed in a safe direction, and keep their finger off the trigger until ready to fire on target.
@patrickquerry5768
@patrickquerry5768 6 жыл бұрын
I've heard I can dry fire my glock all I want, actually the exact words were " at my heart's pleasure"
@thomascocchiola7214
@thomascocchiola7214 5 жыл бұрын
I was taught to grab the slide from the top (don't grab it like a sling shot you got in trouble for that) pull back the slide and to let it go. This will allow the slide will slam forward guaranteeing that the weapon will chamber a new round and lock into battery. I have treated my gen 2 glock 19 this way for the last 23yrs.
@SteelHex
@SteelHex 8 жыл бұрын
I think this is etiquette for new guys checking brand new guns out at the store. If you haven't bought it, it makes sense to be careful with the merchandise. Otherwise, guns (especially new ones) are pretty tough. They're designed to contain EXPLOSIONS, so a little racking and slamming and dry firing are not gonna hurt much.
@nazombie051
@nazombie051 4 жыл бұрын
“Safety is our number one concern” *grabs gun with hand covering barrel*....
@Mr030201040506090807
@Mr030201040506090807 4 жыл бұрын
Derek dude I saw this to, made me cringe and feel a pit in my stomach
@ytmndan
@ytmndan 7 жыл бұрын
3:36 - "We try to walk them through, and at least show them how to handle a firearm properly." 3:45 - Grabs P22 by positioning fingers directly in front of the muzzle, and continues to handle it with muzzle pointed at fleshy hand. I know the guns are cleared, but that's a bad habit to have.
@Steve_-ob2ne
@Steve_-ob2ne 2 жыл бұрын
!!!!! Yikes. He made me want to stop watching the video right there. Also at 1:14 he said "you don't want to crystallize your firing pins." This is incorrect terminology. Dry firing will not change the microstruture of the hardened steel firing pin. The steel pin is already "crystallized" in the sense that metals have a crystalline structure. I think he was trying to say that dry firing puts more stress or impact load on the firing pin and could cause it to crack if the heat treatment were not quite correct (insufficiently tempered or the material has residual stresses) or if the firing pin has a defect in it.
@johnking3079
@johnking3079 7 жыл бұрын
I could listen to you guys talk all day. I don't think I've ever watched one of your vids without learning something...and I'm not a kid or a beginner. Sometimes you and a few others make me feel like one, though. It's a good lesson in humility to watch a good instructive video from you guys or Hickok45 or Nutnfancy or any number of others. And I love the humor from the Yankee Marshall. I wish I could visit your shop some day, but I doubt I'm ever in that neighborhood. In any case, I really just wanted to say thanks, guys. You're doing the Lord's work.
@Drock97266
@Drock97266 10 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed your perspectives on Saftey and handling procedures. Really can't ever stop learning, your video is not just for beginners but a good reminder for all firearm enthusiasts! Thanks for your informative delivery, you guys are great!! Keep up the good work!!
@tristinharding9161
@tristinharding9161 6 жыл бұрын
"I can fire it without looking at it" That's some solid handgun etiquette...
@solitaryorange8599
@solitaryorange8599 7 жыл бұрын
Never dry fire! Then thirty seconds later he dry fires twice!
@TheLordNugget
@TheLordNugget 5 жыл бұрын
He said to never dry fire a rim fire because it would damage the firing pin as it hits metal. Then he dry fired the striker fire weapon.
@volk4523
@volk4523 4 жыл бұрын
Can dry fire striker fired things all you like. You dry fire pretty much anything, tbh. Just not things that are rimmed like KG said, so no Mosins, revolvers, etc.
@user-vz2sy7tx3w
@user-vz2sy7tx3w 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheLordNugget he actually said really any firearm which is complete bullshit but i think he ment to say rim fire atleast i hope lol
@christopherstmarin
@christopherstmarin 14 күн бұрын
My first range visit in the morning. Plus my first time shooting a pistol. Haven’t even pick one up before. Nervous a bit. This was really helpful. Thanks guys
@5jjt
@5jjt 12 күн бұрын
The nervousness will go away, eventually. Congrats on being a gun owner!
@bronzebow4235
@bronzebow4235 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good info. I work with rifles, lmg's and hmg's on a weekly to daily basis. Learning about pistols and revolvers is nice.
@SkinnyMedic
@SkinnyMedic 10 жыл бұрын
Great information!
@JokahFACE
@JokahFACE 9 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a myth that letting a 1911 "slide home" would damage it? Doesn't the gun's slide already "slide home" when it fires and chambers another round? As in every single time?
@JokahFACE
@JokahFACE 9 жыл бұрын
***** Oh.
@nikik5567
@nikik5567 5 жыл бұрын
It is a myth. The slides gonna do that when you fire the gun anyway, doing it without the bullet is no more damaging than when firing it.
@johnjacobs4280
@johnjacobs4280 5 жыл бұрын
No for handguns it is damaging and not a myth when the handguns slide is released the spring in the gun has a strong amount of tension that is necessary to slide the gun forward as well as to chamber often heavy rounds of ammunition from the magazine. If you release the slide on an empty chamber without the weight of bullet to decrease the force of the slides tension then the slide will slam forward to fast with too much force and can cause damage to the mechanism of the gun over time. This is true for most of all semi auto handguns. You should never let the slide ride by pressing the slide release without a round to be chambered. If you want to return the slide to the forward position without a live round you have to hold the slide and press the slide release and more gently move the slide to its forward position while maintains grip on the slide so as to prevent it from slamming. After this you can decock the gun or dry fire the gun (which is fine for center fire handguns) to release the tension of the striker/hammer/etc. so it doesn’t remain cocked if you do not fire the gun anytime soon or leave it in storage for while. It is also just safer to decock the gun in whichever way is the best way for your gun so that the trigger is not able to be pulled and as a result cause the striker/hammer/etc. to be acted upon, upon an unexpected negligible discharge.
@nikik5567
@nikik5567 5 жыл бұрын
John Jacob you do realise how negligible the weight of a bullet is right? They weigh VERY little, not enough to significantly affect the speed of the slide. The slide is gonna slide home on empty only what, a millisecond slower than when loaded? Sure don’t use the release but that’s more just ease of control kinda thing, and because not everyone can work a factory new slide release on a gun. It’s easier to just drop the mag and pull back and let it go back that way. And I’m not even gonna get started on how guns aren’t meant to be treated like their made of glass, save for antiques and their like, and that’s due to age, a modern gun is not going to damage from u just racking the slide every once in a while. If your gun broke that easily, then you need to speak with the manufacturer cuz that gun had faulty metal.
@denmanfite3156
@denmanfite3156 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it does.
@beandahbest9250
@beandahbest9250 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys, good to know i’ve been handling and loading my revolver like a jackwagon for years. Will try that way asap. Looks much better. Keep up the good work.
@thormusique
@thormusique 9 жыл бұрын
You guys rock! Thanks so much for all your great educational videos. It's great that you're willing to explain things in detail to those of us with very little experience (namely, me) but who are dying to learn the proper ways of doing things, all the terminology, etc. I also really appreciate your sober approach to firearm handling, whether you're doing some serious target shooting, explaining gun etiquette, or just plain having fun. I've learned a helluva lot watching your videos, and I'm looking forward to stopping into your shop sometime when I'm in your neck o' the woods. Anyway, keep 'em coming! Btw, I was sorry to hear about Barry, but from what I've seen, I think he'd be proud and happy to know how you guys have continued doing what you do so well. It's like some part of him is still with you. :-)
@Jarhead6
@Jarhead6 10 жыл бұрын
Great information! Thanks!
@Boston-uz5pw
@Boston-uz5pw 10 жыл бұрын
Eric does a very good job informing us on the latest on the entire subject of guns, but some of the comments do not seem to forward that objective. Hopefully, we can make this a great learning website.
@Iraqveteran8888
@Iraqveteran8888 10 жыл бұрын
Listen to this guy...if you don't have anything positive or constructive to add, this probably isn't the place for you.
@redpilledpatriot8484
@redpilledpatriot8484 8 жыл бұрын
1boston has plenty of thumbs ups, what's so wrong with respectfully placed constructive criticism ? A little sensitive arnt we iraqveteran?
@couzdogable
@couzdogable 8 жыл бұрын
Lol...there's a ton of keyboard soldiers firing at y'all on this one!
@jasonw2222
@jasonw2222 8 жыл бұрын
LOl thats a dumb idea
@ZiraRisasi
@ZiraRisasi 7 жыл бұрын
Sssssssss
@HawkeyeJmf
@HawkeyeJmf 8 жыл бұрын
One of the best technical discussions I have seen. Thanks.
@mikecribillero1504
@mikecribillero1504 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job guys , showing and teaching us all YOUR rookie mistakes
@edrudicil9415
@edrudicil9415 10 жыл бұрын
I am Glad to see you all still going. I think Berry would be pleased.
@tristenreeder7248
@tristenreeder7248 10 жыл бұрын
wait berry died?
@leonwilliams9103
@leonwilliams9103 10 жыл бұрын
Tristen Reeder like back in April. Rest his soul.
@tristenreeder7248
@tristenreeder7248 10 жыл бұрын
Leon Williams D:
@kamakazi74ghost97
@kamakazi74ghost97 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that new to the channel
@Dan-qk4ns
@Dan-qk4ns 7 жыл бұрын
I like the double dry fire on the new Ruger towards the end of the video! lol
@terrybarker9367
@terrybarker9367 7 жыл бұрын
double dry fire, man that guys no pussy.
@Garcia81992
@Garcia81992 7 жыл бұрын
Dan thank you for using context to figure out wtf they meant by dry firing.
@MJWorksEasy
@MJWorksEasy 8 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, I am new to the handgun world and thanks to you guys I feel like I can safely learn the proper way to own, maintain and most importantly be a responsible gun owner. Thank you for your videos and the thorough way you teach and showcase guns.
@1stgenbirdNH
@1stgenbirdNH 10 жыл бұрын
Classes I have taken at Sig Sauer Academy, dry firing is part of the skill building exercises they teach.
@benaguilar1787
@benaguilar1787 10 жыл бұрын
Usually I don't nitpick like this, but I feel that it is justified on a safety video. At 3:45 Chad took the P22 from Eric by putting his hand over the muzzle. That made me unconsciously recoil a bit. Not only was the gun not safety checked before it was handed over, but Chad allowed it to muzzle his hand. Definitely a bad habit, you should not grab a handgun with your hand in front of its muzzle.
@benaguilar1787
@benaguilar1787 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah I noticed that he continually did that through the rest of the video. I don't make it a habit of putting my hand over the muzzle of a gun, especially when someone else is handling it.
@curtisnarramore5024
@curtisnarramore5024 10 жыл бұрын
Ben Aguilar And again at 4:13; Just goes to show that habits are hard to break. Muscle memory can take over when you aren't thinking and get you into trouble.
@Iraqveteran8888
@Iraqveteran8888 10 жыл бұрын
Bear in mind that sometimes in order to demonstrate for the camera we have to hold the guns in awkward positions which can sometimes appear as being unsafe. I'll be sure to never holster my firearm again because the whole gun pointing towards China thing...lol.
@dylanheadrick3789
@dylanheadrick3789 10 жыл бұрын
***** If you are merely checking out the trigger pull, it is fine to dry fire once or twice. There is obviously no other way than to actually shoot it to feel the difference between the LC9 and LC9s triggers.
@oJackOfSpades
@oJackOfSpades 10 жыл бұрын
***** Hey, I really enjoyed this video. It's very educational atleast for me who rarely come in contact with handguns (I live in Sweden, practically all firearms are forbidden here:( ). I like your gun reviews aswell, and I'm wondering if I can make a request. The Beretta 92f is the standard in the Us military if i'm not mistaken. In Sweden and in the SAS it's the Sig Sauer p226. These two guns are being used by professionals however what puzzles me is why not a lot of armies and special forces are using the Glock 17. After all it's an extreamly reliable gun, with decent accuracy. Could you perhaps make a review and comparison on these three guns? :D Thanks for the good vids keep it up;)
@anthonyvaughan6389
@anthonyvaughan6389 7 жыл бұрын
I noticed Chad decocked the hammer with two fingers on the sides of the hammer. I just finished my cc permit class and the instructor was very clear that you should not do that that you should use your thumb. He has seen several accidental discharges with police officers and civilians that shot themselves when the hammer slipped out of their fingers.
@justinh4393
@justinh4393 5 жыл бұрын
Makes perfect sense to me. All the hammers I see are designed to be used by the thumb. Slippery on the sides but serrated on top.
@rrsatx
@rrsatx 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony Vaughan who “decocks” a 1911 on a loaded chamber 😂😂😂
@redneckwithajeep5001
@redneckwithajeep5001 4 жыл бұрын
rr satx actually I know a few people who aren’t comfortable carrying a 1911 with the hammer back
@HILLBILLY_HARD
@HILLBILLY_HARD 2 жыл бұрын
@@rrsatxI agree! If you read the owners manual on any 1911 it plainly tells you it’s too dangerous and you should never lower the hammer on a chambered round and that the gun is designed to be carried either cocked and locked on safety or with an empty chamber and safety off.
@sturny3698
@sturny3698 10 жыл бұрын
Great Vid guys. I too work @ a firearms retail store, and you've nhit the nail(s) on the head. It is hard to sell a firearm without allowing them to dry fire, but minimizing the testing is always encouraged. Keep up the great info.
@joshuaanderson9972
@joshuaanderson9972 10 жыл бұрын
Love your vids, two smart/entertaining guys. Keep up the good work
@GoodnotGreat88
@GoodnotGreat88 8 жыл бұрын
Guns are designed to "slam the slide" that absolutely will not cause damage
@Bramswarr
@Bramswarr 5 жыл бұрын
seriously, what do they think happens when cycling? the slide slams back into position, using a tiny portion of the energy involved to chamber the next round
@Mark-sn6kh
@Mark-sn6kh 5 жыл бұрын
There's also a number of high end firearms manufacturers that say DO NOT slam the slide. Pushing a round forward is not the same as closing it on empty. Hmm...
@AudibleVisibIe
@AudibleVisibIe 4 жыл бұрын
High end 1911s are not made for it. Everyone knows that
@AudibleVisibIe
@AudibleVisibIe 4 жыл бұрын
Couple of dummies in here
@vandoo66
@vandoo66 10 жыл бұрын
NUMBER 1 (ONE) rule of firearms etiquette IS and ALWAYS has been: Ask the Owner/Dealer etc before you do ANYTHING!!!!!!! May I see it?, Do you mind if I pull the slide back? etc. etc. Dry firing is a NoNo UNLESS you are discussing this very thing. If you plan on buying the thing you should see if you like the trigger. It's all GOOD manners and COMMON sense.
@LELDocSavage
@LELDocSavage 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent video guys. The revolver etiquette was especially revealing and needed!
@n0f3ar9200
@n0f3ar9200 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the educational video on pistols I actually didn't know a lot of things about the pistol.
@itswednesdaymydudes8631
@itswednesdaymydudes8631 7 жыл бұрын
These guy r competing for the spotlight
@redpilldude8688
@redpilldude8688 7 жыл бұрын
I thought the same. Both insecure.
@itswednesdaymydudes8631
@itswednesdaymydudes8631 7 жыл бұрын
+Dodge Mustang and what u doo?
@rrsatx
@rrsatx 7 жыл бұрын
I think hes their cheer leader. 🙊
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 7 жыл бұрын
This video is a couple years old. IraqVeteran has really come into his own and put up an amazing amount of valuable content. Why do people always have to come along and make shitty comments when they don't do anything themselves that's even anywhere as good?
@premier17th78
@premier17th78 7 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the internet.
@mrskywalker6114
@mrskywalker6114 7 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure by the time the gun no longer functions because of too much slamming, it would've reached the last of it's life
@ponrix
@ponrix 6 жыл бұрын
great video. im just about to take my FSC test and am just watching tons of videos to catchup on gun etiquette. 👍
@stevehamilton6989
@stevehamilton6989 10 жыл бұрын
You guys are funny and very useful for all person that owns firearms, thx a lot for the time you take for making those great quality and good editing videos. Take care and keep up the good work!!! Cheers
@kirk2767
@kirk2767 8 жыл бұрын
Any gun owner is far better off consulting their owner's manual than listening to these guys' opinions.
@zseelbach
@zseelbach 4 жыл бұрын
I never knew 1911 had so many rules. Glad i bought a glock, so simple.
@diggerdanielg752
@diggerdanielg752 10 жыл бұрын
Thank You, I put up a You Tube video on the trigger and slide of a CPX-2 SCCY and how you should not snap closed the slide. I wasn't sure about other guns, but now I know it is for all pistols.
@zachevanish9705
@zachevanish9705 10 жыл бұрын
Great video as always fellas. I have learned a ton from your videos. Thanks for everything you do.
@WarriorofCathar
@WarriorofCathar 8 жыл бұрын
"Do as I say and not as I do." I sure like taking advice from people who don't follow their own.
@jross9800
@jross9800 6 жыл бұрын
WarriorofCathar do as I say implies you are a rookie and do not have my level of experience and knowledge to try what I do or you might hurt yourself. Therefore do as I say because you want to start safe. Mmmkay pumpkin.
@jross9800
@jross9800 6 жыл бұрын
After reflecting on my comment please allow your finger to generously push the digital like button on what I wrote, after all we are here to help each other and learn.
@CODtriggerhippy
@CODtriggerhippy 10 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on how to start being a gun owner. First time in a gun shop, first time at the range...
@LOCKDOWNRC
@LOCKDOWNRC 9 жыл бұрын
I'm not a gun person typically but I've found your channel to be very educational and informational. I've gotten some great ideas for a speech I'm writing for my Government class. Thanks lol.
@HahaBumble
@HahaBumble 9 жыл бұрын
You know, one of the reasons I love this channel so much is because these guys actually seem human. It doesn't feel like they've practiced this a hundred and one times, they make mistakes and own up to them on camera. It just feels more person-to-person rather than some kind of documentary. Iunno, maybe it's just me.
@HILLBILLY_HARD
@HILLBILLY_HARD 2 жыл бұрын
I think this comment has aged very well! They are still making good and down to earth content and on a daily or weekly basis and this video was 7 years ago!
@riverstotalcarcare4828
@riverstotalcarcare4828 10 жыл бұрын
RULE # 1: Never point a gun at anything that you don't want to destroy. So I 'd suggest not putting your hand in front of the barrel like this guy does over and over.
@Commander-lh6ey
@Commander-lh6ey 7 жыл бұрын
11:46 eric will scare off any unwanted vagrants off his lawn with that stare
@645angel
@645angel 10 жыл бұрын
I liked how u paused to test the trigger on the ruger I tried it out Saturday what a great trigger they came out with
@MrFoxer35
@MrFoxer35 10 жыл бұрын
Barrys video on Revolver etiquette was great. Made a lot of sense actually.
@MrRock861261
@MrRock861261 10 жыл бұрын
on the slide slamming forward... doesn't that do that after you fire a shot? whats the difference?
@VirulentIvyz1738
@VirulentIvyz1738 10 жыл бұрын
Yea, I got kind of confused. It might be because it's loading in a bullet, while racking the slide without a bullet inside could damage the internals, but I'm not sure.
@nevahenuf
@nevahenuf 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'd like an explanation as well. When I took a intro handgun course we were encouraged to let the slide go to avoid malfunctions. Are you talking loaded versus unloaded?
@ericblandford6809
@ericblandford6809 10 жыл бұрын
When you shoot the firearm it's undergoing it's firing cycle which involves stripping a round from the magazine and closing on a loaded round or snap cap. We aren't saying you can't let your firearm slam on an empty chamber, we are just making sure beginners know there is a difference. In the video, we are specifically making reference to the 1911
@clemsonalum98
@clemsonalum98 10 жыл бұрын
If anything it is slamming even harder when fired because the force of fired recoil is more than you cocking it, so I agree how could me cocking and letting it "slam" be damaging when firing it is more violent. This was very annoying. I've always read you are NOT supposed to ride a slide forward you are SUPPOSED to let is slam.
@nickcain1859
@nickcain1859 10 жыл бұрын
Atomic Bean they didn't explain it very well in the video. When you are chambering a round you want to let it slam to ensure the gun goes into battery. When you are cleaning your gun or something you shouldn't let it slam on an empty chamber because it puts unnecessary pressure on the parts
@thegrimreaper7641
@thegrimreaper7641 8 жыл бұрын
why should you avoid slamming it when you know how violent it gets when a gun cycles seriously if a gun is designed to take a cycling process like it does you really shouldn't baby it that kind of annoys me
@LSFprepper
@LSFprepper 10 жыл бұрын
Another great vid. And nice to hear Barry mentioned.
@180bidder
@180bidder 8 жыл бұрын
thank you for taking the time to post this stuff, owning and operating more than my fair share of firearms didn't by default mean I knew these nuances.
@JustifyJustin
@JustifyJustin 8 жыл бұрын
Is the action of slamming the slide home not the same process as happens when firing? Or are you guys saying that because of the feeding process the slam is softer when chambering?
@Jazzman-bj9fq
@Jazzman-bj9fq 8 жыл бұрын
+JustifyJustin As far as I know, 'riding the slide forward' is what you don't want to do as it can cause a feeding malfunction.  When I load my 1911, I have always pulled the slide back and let the spring move the slide forward, that's how it's made to function.  The 1911 was made as a military sidearm and was 'made for abuse'... Now, there may be more modern versions of the 1911 design that may not like to be handled this way.  I don't believe that the normal auto loading or battery phase of function on automatic pistols is any different from pulling the slide back and releasing it manually. I would say though that if you are going to a gun shop and shopping for pistols that you may want to handle the pistols gingerly since you haven't yet bought the gun.* Ok, I see what they're saying as I watched through the vid... What they are saying is that you don't want the slide to slam forward on an empty chamber. Well, I think that makes sense to me.
@pweter351
@pweter351 6 жыл бұрын
JustifyJustin they mean when its unloaded
@elconquistador9921
@elconquistador9921 7 жыл бұрын
Oh my word, don't go to these guys for some martial gun handling skills! For one thing the guy on the right loves to muzzle the crap out of his left hand... probably is one of those press check guys. And this thing about not letting the slide slam. It's a damn gun! It does that when it fires... And more! Don't get into the habit of using your hand to gently ride the slide in or you'll carry that habit over to your gun loading / reloading and you'll either not strip and round off the mag or the gun won't fully be in battery. (I'm speaking of the time when you actually need this gun to save your life and it's high stress). Train the Same way everytime! Insert the mag, tap and rack that bitch back!... And don't ride it in! Tap, rack, bang! It's a gun, not a violin!
@user-nb8yt2il2r
@user-nb8yt2il2r 7 жыл бұрын
+dodge mustang he's right, at leat with 1911's I had a brand new colt and if you didn't let it rock forward it usually would not full chamber. I didn't like racking it empty though
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 7 жыл бұрын
The safety Sallies are at it again. If you can't conclude that the safety check for a video about handgun etiquette was performed before filming to save time then I don't even know what's wrong with you.
@tagertgibbs7493
@tagertgibbs7493 6 жыл бұрын
You have a point with being in battery this goes for all semi autos hand gun or not
@itsmethatsit.2934
@itsmethatsit.2934 6 жыл бұрын
tim estrada you might not be able to tell, but I do believe the barrel is angled toward the camera a little as to not put it towards his hand. And unloaded it strikes the barrel directly, which is why, when it’s unloaded, you ride the barrel forward.
@pweter351
@pweter351 6 жыл бұрын
tim estrada i thought the same thing but what he means is dont let the slide ride forward when its unloaded as its not stripping a round off. The dry fire is only rim fire been told that centerfire its ok.
@GuyLivingOffGrid
@GuyLivingOffGrid 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! Looking forward to your next segment... :)
@joshuwahhhh7404
@joshuwahhhh7404 8 жыл бұрын
Love the videos im new to gun handling and always watch your videos for tips and fun new weapons.
@DannyMac100
@DannyMac100 8 жыл бұрын
Why would you avoid letting the slide slam? It literally does that every time you fire a round, so the gun is designed to withstand the shock from that force. Am I missing something here?
@lemanruss7218
@lemanruss7218 7 жыл бұрын
When the slide closes after firing, it carries a bullet into the chamber, while ejecting the last shell. So when there is no round in the chamber or mag and you let the slide close freely you are applying a greater force. Does that make sense now?
@DannyMac100
@DannyMac100 7 жыл бұрын
+Leman Russ I see. So the assumption is that the gun is not designed to handle that extra force and could wear out the slide and springs if you do it too much. Would gun makers take that into account when designing and testing their firearms?
@lemanruss7218
@lemanruss7218 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah. It's a little bit of a slow process for any real damage to show, but it could appeared if done repeatedly over a couple years. The manufacturer designed these modern guns with very specific forces in mind. And even then they can malfunction after years of constant use. I think it's safe to say you shouldn't let the slide slam often (unless it's from unloading a spent shell after firing) just because the gun was designed to fire and not to just be "cocked, let go. Cocked, let go." Over and over again.
@DannyMac100
@DannyMac100 7 жыл бұрын
+Dodge Mustang please teach me what you're talking about then, rather than insulting? Would appreciate the knowledge.
@elconquistador9921
@elconquistador9921 7 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Madrid (Danny) don't get bent by what Mustang is saying. Just get yourself into a decent pistol fighting class and don't worry so much about babying that gun. These guys are talking about with how much force the slide hits when it chambers a round vs no round in the chamber. When it fires an explosion is happening... There's a lot more happening to your weapon that you just racking the slide on an empty chamber. When you're taught to clear a double feed, the last part of the procedure is rack, rack, rack (with no magazine in... no new round is getting placed on the chamber). My point is, have one constant methodology, commit it to muscle memory and don't deviate from it. You will benefit from this training and the high stress situation. TAP, RACK, BANG... IF IT GOES CLICK - TAP, RACK, BANG... CLICK AGAIN-CHANGE MAGS AND TAP, RACK, BANG. Most of you guys will never use a firearm long enough to wear things out. If you do, you'll know that you got some use out of that thing... good for you!
@tyrelledavenport106
@tyrelledavenport106 7 жыл бұрын
"Dont be a tool and know it all," said Mr. Tool
@Flowshow88
@Flowshow88 7 жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome. Great videos. Great knowledge
@markrajchel4097
@markrajchel4097 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your informative videos.
@bigred2989
@bigred2989 10 жыл бұрын
Can you guys do a video on some handguns that can properly cycle the typically cheap ammo out there, such as the Wolf and Bear ammo? I was at the range not wanting to waste good ammo in my Taurus TCP the other day and I used Silver Bear and was getting constant failures to feed and a ton of hand primer strikes.
@SynApsis88
@SynApsis88 10 жыл бұрын
Glock & M&P will take all the cheap ammo you can load into it.
@Prepare2Survive
@Prepare2Survive 10 жыл бұрын
My $300 Ruger P95 eats all the cheap ammo perfectly.
@nevahenuf
@nevahenuf 10 жыл бұрын
Springfield XD as well.
@bigred2989
@bigred2989 10 жыл бұрын
Should have said .380's. Kinda interested in that since it's such a light caliber.
@nevahenuf
@nevahenuf 10 жыл бұрын
As far as .380 probably a glock 42 would be the most reliable but even it has issues with specific ammos. I know my dad's Bersa ThunderCC was a very inconsistent performer. Personally from what I've seen of .380 firearms I'd steer clear of them altogether if reliability was my top priority.
@tn2378
@tn2378 7 жыл бұрын
Yea. Letting the slide go back is more forcible than a bullet exploding in the chamber. Give me a break
@themaddruggist5366
@themaddruggist5366 7 жыл бұрын
Theros Ng I think you are right - full force cycling is harder than dropping the slide from the stop. That makes no sense at all.
@timothyb949
@timothyb949 Жыл бұрын
Thank you guys... y'all are my southern neighbors - I'm up in East Point. I'm always receptive to learning about the best practices with our weapons.
@fed-upp8537
@fed-upp8537 8 жыл бұрын
Great info on the revolver! TY!
@zackhenderson2392
@zackhenderson2392 4 жыл бұрын
"Oh, I read a forum online and now I know everything there is to know about 1911's" Meanwhile on KZbin... -_-
@AFpaleoCon
@AFpaleoCon 10 жыл бұрын
I believe not letting the slide come home on an empty chamber is kind of overkill. Think about the military and the AR platform. When done cleaning you hit the bolt release and it comes home on an empty chamber and store it. This is standard practice and almost every AR owner probably does it. PERHAPS technically this does damage the gun or WILL but you're talking the difference between a 100 year life span and a 97 year life span. I don't think you need to baby a gun as much as this.
@lauriestlyon8773
@lauriestlyon8773 10 жыл бұрын
Our old SLR's were, racked, cocked and locked 'n' dry fired so often that eventually you had weapons with knackered firing pins and you could physically move the bolt carriage in its slots. You could easily tell which ones had to be replaced as the serial numbers of the weapon did not match the bolt. They were simply worn out through continuous dry drilling. These were military rifles designed for a hard life. I doubt that civilian fire arms are built any tougher. After all they are a "consumer item" so have a design life. Why shorten it unnecessarily and even worse risk a misfire in a life and death situation?
@AFpaleoCon
@AFpaleoCon 10 жыл бұрын
Laurie St Lyon Well because that was probably a long time ago and who knows when the actual guns you used were manufactured (if meant for practice, probably a while ago). Things have changed so much now that the whole firing pin group on guns is completely different. Also, I was discussing not letting the bolt slam on an empty chamber, you are advocating not dry firing. I think a lot of people will agree dry fire practice is extremely important.
@lauriestlyon8773
@lauriestlyon8773 10 жыл бұрын
Dry firing is absolutely an important part of training but the effects of it over a period of time carries a price. And by the way Blackwater... it was not THAT long ago! Cheeky young bugger! LOL! In all seriousness, the point I was making is that the SLR's were racked three times in the unload. Each time you allowed the bolt to go fully forward without impeding it. The SLR's were all L1A2 plastic stocked versions so not exactly geriatric maybe 5-7 years old. But they still had issues over time due to the action of the action! My point was the guys are right. In short term you get away with it but in the longer term your weapon can pay a price. If it goes wrong at the wrong time...then you can too. Anyway, hope you enjoy your shooting regardless of the "etiquette" you use.
@misfit2069
@misfit2069 10 жыл бұрын
Great video guys, thank you for all that info...
@machinegunpreacher8139
@machinegunpreacher8139 10 жыл бұрын
Good video guys!!! I understand that it is a lot different handling the firearms, while talking and educating on camera. Many of these "blog commandos" who are criticizing your every move on camera, probably couldn't form a complete sentence while filming an educational video for the youtube community (They struggle completing sentences in the comment section....lol). Being in front of a camera makes a big difference!!! Thanks for all the work you have done over the years; you have definitely helped me a lot!!!
@JimmieD-jp8ge
@JimmieD-jp8ge 8 жыл бұрын
would you say you know more than the people who build firearms, I have firearms that says in the manual to load the firearm release the hold back tab and let the rail slam shut --Cannick55 is one of them
@redpilledpatriot8484
@redpilledpatriot8484 8 жыл бұрын
That's if your loading a round, not if your just playing around with the gun, you should only let the slide slam forward to chamber a round, which is what the manufacturer you stated rightly suggested doing, they did not however state slamming the slide is what you should do when not chambering a round.
@redpilledpatriot8484
@redpilledpatriot8484 8 жыл бұрын
These guys never said not to let the gun slam shut if your loading a round..
@macectoman
@macectoman 8 жыл бұрын
+Sasmodog I wish I had read this before I asked my question. I ask your indulgence and pardon. Thanks.
@nazombie051
@nazombie051 4 жыл бұрын
Also, Jesus Christ These May as well be tips on how to own a firearm with the intention of not actually shooting it and keeping it in brand new condidtion...
@slinq
@slinq 4 жыл бұрын
that's not really unheard of
@terrybarker9367
@terrybarker9367 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video guys, very informative on safety, and all around good handling of handguns.
@mazganim1173
@mazganim1173 8 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from this keep the videos coming!
@johnbaggs5901
@johnbaggs5901 8 жыл бұрын
...I work in a gun store and I know everything. uhhh
@mitchellbuss2424
@mitchellbuss2424 8 жыл бұрын
well apparently practice doesn't make perfection. you have to do all of that to practice, and practice makes perfect. if practicing tears a gun up get a different gun. oh and yes using a gun will scratch it so don't abuse the gun buts not a Barbi doll it's a gun. a tool for defending your life. practice practice practic. when it wears out get a new one.
@mitchellbuss2424
@mitchellbuss2424 8 жыл бұрын
oh and practice safely
@BronzeCoin
@BronzeCoin 2 жыл бұрын
I'm active military and I went to shoot a few pistols I wasn't familiar with in Florida. I'm Canadian . They were some the most accommodating enthusiastic people I've ever met. God bless America.
@b0ng0man
@b0ng0man 8 жыл бұрын
Guys a very good video with some good interactions between both-good dynamics .And regardless of all other comments its all helpful...well done!
@mattshums6928
@mattshums6928 10 жыл бұрын
Dry firing does nothing harmful to a center fire rifle or pistol.
@Iraqveteran8888
@Iraqveteran8888 10 жыл бұрын
Some guns respond better than others. Personally it's something I try not to be in the habit of. I use snap caps 99 percent of the time.
@mattshums6928
@mattshums6928 10 жыл бұрын
I don't think guns like AK's or AR 15's get damaged by dry firing.
@mattshums6928
@mattshums6928 10 жыл бұрын
Any gun that doesn't have a bolt hold open gets dry fired during normal operation when you run out of ammo.
@maryloumader-pipia9698
@maryloumader-pipia9698 8 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your video but I am going to slam my S&W 40 cal M&P...
@redpilledpatriot8484
@redpilledpatriot8484 8 жыл бұрын
You do that, no real need to do so but hey, it's your gun, as for me I will treat my gun as best I can and only let it ride home when chambering a round.
@DanDanoBraun
@DanDanoBraun 10 жыл бұрын
As always very informative videos these guys rock.
@px4sd477
@px4sd477 9 жыл бұрын
I am a know it all(and I really do) and learned something. Wow good video guys.
@IronMike212
@IronMike212 10 жыл бұрын
Man, a lot of other people say to dry fire as much as you want. I really wish I knew what the hell to do. I need a straight up answer.
@swatmaster68
@swatmaster68 10 жыл бұрын
Dry firing will not break your gun, as long as it is a fairly modern firearm, not a 100 year old antique with more delicate parts. Dry firing allows the practice of trigger control which will make you a better shooter. But, if you are going to dry fire, it is recommended to use snap caps so that not as much stress is put on the firing pin. But if a gun were to break simply because it was dry fired, then I wouldn't trust it to fire live rounds.
@homersimpsonii5455
@homersimpsonii5455 10 жыл бұрын
This channel made a video several months ago contradicting everything they said in this video. I don't take much stock in what they say anymore. I learned more from Barry and wish he was still on the channel, the videos went downhill after he left.
@jakekiere6838
@jakekiere6838 10 жыл бұрын
On any modern centerfire gun, I have no issues with dry firing. Parts are very cheap and prevalent if you somehow break a firing pin or a striker. The chances of that happening are so slim that it's not even worth worrying about. Snap caps are a good idea if you're a little nervous about it, plus they allow you to function check the gun after cleaning or modifying. Get some snap caps and an extra firing pin/striker and dry fire away.
@michaelkilimanjaro9926
@michaelkilimanjaro9926 10 жыл бұрын
You can dry fire your handguns all you want. It is looked frowned upon when you dry fire someone's or store merchant's handguns. Usually they will say Yes when you ask. It is one of those "etiquette".
@davidmelton9162
@davidmelton9162 10 жыл бұрын
Don't dry fire if at all posable!
@edgarsmittenheighnjenkson9226
@edgarsmittenheighnjenkson9226 10 жыл бұрын
Model 69 gigity. :)
@brookie2464
@brookie2464 8 жыл бұрын
+Elzoro24 who else but quagmire
@jross9800
@jross9800 6 жыл бұрын
Edgar Smittenheighnjenkson masturbations rating on your comment is 0.0001/10
@JockoFlocko
@JockoFlocko 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome information, especially regarding revolvers.
@djarnoldo516
@djarnoldo516 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, guys. All new shooters should see this.
@filoIII
@filoIII 10 жыл бұрын
Many people are like me and can't stand the horrawful grip angle on the Glocks. If they'd make a 1911 style grip angled gun, they'd own the world.
@MattyD209
@MattyD209 10 жыл бұрын
Its because you have probably put only a few rounds through one. After a day of shooting a Glock it becomes a non-issue. To me, the 1911 has the "wrong" angle because I practice with my Glock more.
@22640cal
@22640cal 10 жыл бұрын
I had a Sig before I owned a Glock and the angel was different but nothing a little training cant solve. Plus, every time I hear that the angel is bad I always think how that sentence sounds like, " I can drive a Chevy truck good, but I cant drive a Ford", it nearly the same thing.
@filoIII
@filoIII 10 жыл бұрын
AnAngryBlack You had to be taught OUT of the 1911 grip. It wasn't natural. 90% of people will point a Glock at a 45 degree angle above their target when holding one. It isn't a natural angle for the majority of people, but, if you like it, go for it.
@filoIII
@filoIII 10 жыл бұрын
***** That's Glock's genius marketing. They give HUGE discounts to LE, then use that in their marketing to the civilian market, saying how many PDs use Glocks. BRILLIANT!!
@ricks.1092
@ricks.1092 10 жыл бұрын
***** I was sort of shocked when I felt and held a polymer frame/shell, when all the internals were subsequently removed. It's was extremely light. As well as, felt like something a toy was made out of. However, the plastic (polymer) frames appear to be the wave of the future. I wish some of these brand name manufactures. Would at least offer their polymer frame guns in an Aluminum frame too. Sure it might be a bit more expensive and a bit heavier. If this option (Aluminum Frame) was offered on Glock, S&W, FN et al. I would definitely go the aluminum route. Apparently you seem to like the .45 caliber. Have you ever tried the FN-X in .45? It's a full size gun and holds 15 rounds. I can tell you that the FN-X in 9mm works great. In fact I like the FN-X much better than any Glock. Seems FN doesn't get it's fair share of recognition as the Glock, Smith or Springfield XDS models. What drew me too the FNX, was it's an ambi gun and I'm a lefty. As well as, I too prefer a DA/SA gun with a hammer. Over a DAO, striker fire. The S&W M&P line was a close second. However, it was a DAO gun. I do have the M&P(C) and like it better than the Shield. Because the M&P (Compact) hold 12 rounds opposed to 7 rds in the 9mm caliber. I don't mind if the compact version is a bit thicker and heavier. It's not that huge of a difference. Currently, my FN-X (9mm) is my EDC. The Shield is by the night stand. Have some brands I rare use as my EDC. I do like Sigs, but the decocker is in the worse spot for a lefty shooter. Wish the would change that. Not an H&K fan at ALL. Those guns are "Over-Hyped/Rated" & "Way Over Priced" too.
@HackBennys
@HackBennys 9 жыл бұрын
I miss Barry, Chad seems so condescending.
@steverussell6642
@steverussell6642 4 жыл бұрын
I like him
@codyjenn8785
@codyjenn8785 2 жыл бұрын
Thank yall for this video very helpful I grew up around guns when I was young my dad had a safe full sks and 30.06 7mm 9mm 45s 40cal everything you can think of except rocket launchers and grenades
@hectorcejanavarro3136
@hectorcejanavarro3136 10 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. You guys should do a video on how revolvers and older guns work.
Just try to use a cool gadget 😍
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