Handicaps and Stableford

A very dull video explaining how to score! Hopefully simple enough to understand! Should point out that handicaps over 18 will receive a second shot per hole. Example, a handicap of 20 will receive 1 shot at holes with a stroke index (S.I.) 1 - 18 and 2 shots at holes with a S.I. 1 and 2. Got bored so didn't explain that in the video!
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[@sonnydates6819]

So good to have someone explain Stableford without waffling on.

[@stevemassey4413]

Very straightforward and well presented. By far the most simple explanation on stableford scoring I have come across.

[@OliTuckerGolf]

Steve Massey glad it’s simple!

[@davidwilliams6553]

Thanks, very clear, helped me, a beginner, to understand the system which was a bit baffling when you hear the lads at the club talking scores and points. Now I think I can keep up.

[@terryarnold9154]

Thank you for your simple explanation, very helpful.

[@leecoady4671]

Best video I’ve found on stableford thanks 👍🏻

[@neilevans7155]

An excellent video. Explained handicaps and stableford better than anything else I've seen.

[@OliTuckerGolf]

Appreciated!

[@fc1911]

simple, helpful video. Thanks👍🏼

[@gsprotennis]

Thank you for an explanation that went to the point!

[@nicksundstrom7341]

I think it’s important for everyone to understand that your handicap index and your course handicap are not the same thing. If your handicap index is 10, you need to use that to figure out what your course handicap is which will vary by slope/rating of the tees/course you’re playing. From an easier set of tees your course handicap may be an 8. From a harder set of tees it may be 12.

[@danielwardman2399]

Great video, saved a lot of explanation to my mates new to golf.

[@gwilko6452]

Thanks for this clear explanation. Been playing for 3 years but never really understood as usual play in comps in pairs. Thanks

[@Gumbi_07]

Extremely helpful and clear explanation! Thanks!

[@amatya.rakshasa]

Clear and concise! Great video!

[@OliTuckerGolf]

Thanks! Glad it helped!

[@TimForber69]

Thanks! Perfect explanation

[@Lungit]

Best explanation ever

[@richieannarelli5714]

Very helpful video thank you⛳

[@random2307]

Thank you very much very good stuff here. .

[@rosetinteddays2605]

This was very helpful, thank you.

[@cplsyx]

Super explanation, thanks. Not sure why others make it seem so complicated.

[@OliTuckerGolf]

Thanks. Might be a bit different with the new system for handicaps now!

[@cwugrad396]

Thanks. Here in the US very few play this way but I love it ... I can play this and match play all in one game

[@sugusebatti2090]

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[@jona6720]

Great video

[@1graybags]

very good thank you

[@gavin1203]

makes it so simple, thanks

[@chrisgast]

for a moment, I was confused. but I understand now. now, I just need to play some rounds and find out what my handicap is.

[@aussiemumlovesmusic]

Very helpful

[@OliTuckerGolf]

Basic from way back. Needs an update with the new course rating / index.

[@seongslee]

Great video. Do you mind me asking what pen you were using in the video? Thanks.

[@OliTuckerGolf]

You can ask, but as it was over 2 years ago all I can tell you is it’s a blue one!

[@blakesaunders8589]

If some is over 18 handicap do they get more shots taken off each hole? You said for your example a handicap of 10 can take 1 shot off the 10 hardest holes, but what if your over a 18 handicap?

[@OliTuckerGolf]

blake saunders if you’re a 19 hcap, you get an extra shot taken off stoke index 1. If you’re a 36 hcap, 2 shots on every hole.

[@kelvinpaton7751]

This helped me out a lot thanks

[@luckystripe672]

So you are aiming to shoot 36 points a round then for you to be playing to your handicap then? When I used to play stableford we played to try and get 18 points a round, so a par would score a 0 handicapper 1 point.

[@nadiayvonnerazanajao7082]

This is just superb, I been tryin to find out about "what percentage of golfers have a handicap under 10?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Tonayden Senadelyn Remedy - (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now ) ? Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my partner got cool success with it.

[@greggdaniels6129]

I hear people suggest that if someone off 28 shoots 50 points, they say that it equates to playing the course -10 (unsure exactly lol). I'm using examples per se as I'm quite new to stableford. So if somebody shot those numbers, how do you work it out what they're playing to par? I really hope this makes sense!

[@OliTuckerGolf]

Gregg Daniels a ‘par’ score would be 36 points. 50 points is 14 points better (or 14 shots). So that’s a 28 handicapper shooting 14 over par.

[@greggdaniels6129]

@@OliTuckerGolf thank you for that. 👌👍

[@frankwarren5489]

Do you think it’s worth to score the match using stableford if everybody is off the same handicap? Or would do you think match play scoring is better if everybody is on the same handicap? Thanks

[@OliTuckerGolf]

Unless players are single figures, stable Ford is fine, keeps everyone in the game longer. Match play also good for 2 players

[@frankwarren5489]

@@OliTuckerGolf Thanks for your reply

[@geoffcohen613]

In stroke or stableford you are playing against the course, In match play you are playing against the player NOT the course. hence strokes are given on difference handicap. ie If player A is on course handicap of 15 and player B is off 18. the difference in handicap determines how many shots given, in this case 3. so player B gets 1 stoke on match index holes 1, 2 and 3, all other holes they play with no handicap shots. yes it is for head to head match play If want to do a match against buddies, then play stableford index and best points on hole wins. ie on 3rd hole as shown in video player made a 5 for 3. so that wins hole if all others score only 2 points. Stableford is not for beginners as suggested, in Australia all club competition is played as stableford, so every one is familiar with system.

[@interestedbystander196]

I would say yes it is worth it still, even if players are off the same handicap. You get the opportunity to score at every hole. A player getting a par on one hole and then a double bogey on the next gets two points (2 for the par, plus 0 for the double bogey). If their playing partner gets two bogeys, they also get 2 points (1 for each bogey), so the ebb and flow can change as the round progresses.

[@rangey6663]

What if you have a high handy cap? Like 27

[@OliTuckerGolf]

2 shots on holes with stroke index 1-9. 1 shot on holes 10-18 (27 shots in total)

[@richarddavis5542]

How is your handicap calculated?

[@OliTuckerGolf]

In the last couple of years. It’s now the best 8 rounds out of previous 20. There is also a course rating involved. Need another video for this!

[@viperracing2889]

So par is 2 points on par-3 and par-4 holes, but 3 points on a par-5 hole? Are there any par-2 and par-6 holes, and if so how many points is par on such holes?

[@OliTuckerGolf]

Viper Racing par is always 2 points. You only have par 3, 4 and 5s

[@viperracing2889]

@@OliTuckerGolf Aha, thanks. So even at a short 68 or 98 meter practising hole, par would be 3 shots. Par can't be less than 3 shots or more than 5 shots on any hole?

[@geoffcohen613]

Not quite. NET par is 2 points on any hole. net bogey is 1 point. so if have 1 stroke on a par 3 and make a 4 then net par so 2 points. if make a 3 get 3 points. it really is very easy to score stableford.

[@Phil-sp2kb]

So would a 28 handicap get a shot at every hole?

[@OliTuckerGolf]

Phil a 36 handicapper would. 28 hcap would get 2 shots at stroke index 1-10

[@kevinbrannon8594]

Yes

[@geoffcohen613]

a 28 handicap would get 2 shots on hardest 10 holes and 1 shot on other 8 holes. so on 3rd hole shown above the 28 marker gets 2 shots, so a 7 (nett 5)would get 2 points, a 6 net bogey would get 3 points and 8 would get 1 point

[@bestpingau1699]

What happens if they have a handicap of 28 for example with how many shots they get per hole

[@OliTuckerGolf]

1 shot per hole, but 2 shots on holes with SI 1-10

[@bestpingau1699]

So if I scored a par on a par 5 it's below 10 on score index would that mean essentially it's an eagle score

[@OliTuckerGolf]

@@bestpingau1699 with a 28 handicap, yes

[@geoffcohen613]

Par 4 hole with a shot on 10 hardest holes scoring would be 4 for 3points 5 for 2 6 for 1 7 for 0. On hole where doesnt get a stroke. 4 for 2 5 for 1 6 for 0 Really very easy. In Australia all club competions are stableford. Also once you have zero points just pick up, so wont have a 10 as described in video

[@JamesMurray-iq5tz]

So if your handicap is over 18 you can take a shot off every hole?

[@OliTuckerGolf]

If your handicap is 19, it would be 1 shot per hole, plus 2 shots on the hole with a stroke index of 1 (the ‘hardest’ holes)

[@JamesMurray-iq5tz]

@@OliTuckerGolf oh right thanks for that. Mine is currently 24. What would i do for the stroke index’s up to 6/7?

[@HORHAYY10]

All made sense up until the end with the 'if you get 10, then that counts as 0' - why?

[@OliTuckerGolf]

Even on a par 5, 10 shots is 5 over par. If you’re handicap was 36 (2 shots per hole) it’s an 8 and that’s still no points. Basically means, if you’re having a shocking hole and can’t score points, move on.

[@HORHAYY10]

Ah right - I was gonna ask what is the upper limit but I guess it's Bogey at 1 point - double bogey would be 0 points and therefore anything above that is also 0 points. That makes sense! I like how if you can score some points it counts but if not, bin it off! Haha thanks for responding

[@plus2golfer12]

I've never understood handicaps in competition... it gives you no incentive to get better... Maybe I'm old school in the way that I believe you should take your ass whipping and work hard to become good enough to beat that guy on your own....I worked my ass off to get to +2 why would I give some guy 15 shots and a chance to beat me when he's been playing for 4 years or more and put no effort into getting better

[@simonkristiansen3949]

Well in that case, play match play or stroke play, if you Count your strokes, you know you are Playing better golf, and if your incentive to get better is just 2 win, play something Else, im a 3 hcp, and i for once love the fact that i Can GO out and play a fair and competitive round of golf with some of my friends in the 10-20 hcp range, and that is not because they dont work hard to get better, they are just newer to the sport than me. I know im playing better golf, and they know as Well, all you have to do is just count strokes, but We Can stil compete, and for that Reason the hcp system is brilliant

[@markzola8142]

Absolutely mate, I played a comp a while ago playing off 12,the guy I played played off 3,i beat him on points but he beat me on strokes, it didn't feel like I won

[@luzortiz5069]

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[@catlin-vn1sh]

This just seems foolish to me, it’s not in my nature to to shoot a 5 and then magically becomes a 4

[@OliTuckerGolf]

Agree, I’d scrap all handicaps and make players play with others their level or from a shorter tee position

[@ThengXiong-mh1vs]

Starting golf and your explanation makes no sense to me at all. I feel you need better examples.