Handley Page Hanley | Aircraft Overview

Today the unlucky Handley Page Hanley torpedo bomber is the subject of discussion.
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[@RexsHangar]

F.A.Q Section - Ask your questions here :) Q: Do you take aircraft requests? A: I have a list of aircraft I plan to cover, but feel free to add to it with suggestions:) Q: How do you decide what aircraft gets covered next? A: Supporters over on Patreon now get to vote on upcoming topics such as overviews, special videos, and deep dives. Q: Why do you use imperial measurements for some videos, and metric for others? A: I do this based on country of manufacture. Imperial measurements for Britain and the U.S, metric for the rest of the world, but I include text in my videos that convert it for both.

[@cameronlow932]

Please do a video on the Short Singapore flying boat sometime in the future

[@RexsHangar]

@@cameronlow932 Its on the list :)

[@kidmohair8151]

any aircraft you care to feature is fine by me!

[@GrummanTiger1]

At ~1:13, the figures seem to indicate that Handley Page at least thought of slots/slats for airscrews (propellers). Any further info on whether they actually did any testing on that concept or was it strictly theoretical or for patent coverage purposes only?

[@OdyTypeR]

The Handley Hanley: hardly a handy handler

[@jillatherton4660]

😄

[@NV..V]

Here here

[@999theeagle]

Hands down.

[@kazefw3834]

Perfect 😂

[@lucasoftail]

Thanks, I bit my tongue trying to read that out loud XD

[@marknesselhaus4376]

"Continental Drift" when talking about airspeed........ I love it :-D

[@garygenerous8982]

That literally made me do a spit take 😂

[@thestarlightalchemist7333]

Need for Slow: Continental Drift

[@BrushQuill]

​@garygenerous8982 you're not the only one!😂

[@Niodium]

It's always embarrassing when the ships are going as fast as your aircraft

[@marknesselhaus4376]

@@Niodium Back in my Ultralite flying days, I would be in a headwind and be going backwards in relation to the ground. In other words, negative ground speed. It was bad when the trees were faster than I was Lol

[@GrahamWKidd]

The continental drift comment was wryly hilarious!

[@DIREWOLFx75]

"Unfortunately, as the Maus Heavy Panzer Division ground inexorably forward across the Russian steppe, continental drift was slowly carrying their destination off in the other direction. Were they getting closer to Moscow?... or further away?" Blue Emu @ Paradox HOI2 Forums I've got at least one more quote on continental drift somewhere, but can't find it right now...

[@kidmohair8151]

04:07 “she’s a good performer eh? a *good performer* , nudgenudge winkwink say no more, say no more…”

[@Alobo075]

Am I the only one to think that at this stage of airplane design/construction, "Crinklewood" is both a good name and a description for a landing field?

[@perrydowd9285]

Crinkle wood? I think the field was at Cricklewood, where The Goodies had their futuristic office. We do ANYTHING ANYTIME!

[@jonlees3749]

Goodie Goodie Yum Yum?

[@BrushQuill]

"Meanwhile... in the darkest depths of Cricklewood"... Or (hear me out) maybe it was tested at Crinkley Bottom! 😂

[@kyleolson8977]

Governor Lepetomane: Thank you, Hanley. Handley Page: No, it's Handley! Governor Lepetomane: It is?

[@kimvibk9242]

Nice Blazing Saddles reference! A movie like that would not be made today...and that makes me sad.

[@kevinizatt4358]

I didn't get a harrumpf out of that guy.

[@tomlindsay4629]

😂😂😂😂

[@DrunkenGrognard]

@@kevinizatt4358 Harumpf!

[@AnimeSunglasses]

@@kimvibk9242 I mean, sure it could. Just need a Mel Brooks to make it.

[@LCARSx32]

I know a lot of your viewers like the long form deep dives, but I much prefer these shorter spotlights. I think the ~20 minute mark is perfect. I love all your videos, but wanted to encourage you to continue to create shorter videos as well. Thanks for the hard work you put in to these. It shows.

[@rolanddutton]

When you lose out to a Blackburn, you know something's probably gone wrong.

[@167curly]

I was rather amused at the Hanley's head-on view of its divided undercarriage which made it look knock-kneed.😂

[@jony663]

As for additional videos, always love to hear more about the Handley Page aircraft.

[@Puckoon2002]

Handley Page where based in Cricklewood, in North West London, not Crinklewood.

[@irishpsalteri]

Love the inter-war planes. Thanks.

[@drstevenrey]

I did not realize that the fore wing, slat, was an invention from Handley Page. I am quite impressed.

[@GR46404]

Thank you for this excellent video, as well as all your others. I apologize for this nitpick, but it is my understanding that the Napier Lion was a W-12 engine, not a V-12.

[@glennsimpson7659]

You can see the short exhaust pipe for the upper [central] cylinder bank in some views - starboard nose, above the long stbd exhaust pipe.

[@anthonyjackson280]

Indeed it was. I was going to make same comment if not done so already.

[@michaelwright2986]

A nit I was going to pick, too. And while we're at it, I thought I heard the location of the HP factory given as Crinklewood--which is, I suppose, what happened in some of those miscalculated landings. Excellent video, I'd never heard of this aeroplane.

[@philipdove6987]

Please make films about any aircraft you like I enjoy your productions.

[@Pwj579]

Wanted : Someone to go back in time with me….

[@wideyxyz2271]

ooooh New video. Always interested in new videos, Rex!

[@mrfoxycracker4836]

Very nice, i had just finished listening to your backlog and I just started my shift at work

[@barrybecker3706]

I just love this channel!!!!

[@iwitnessedit6713]

I think they referred to the Hanley as the MAX back in the day

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

Great video...👍

[@brittenmusic6923]

Very interested. thank you 👍

[@lewiswestfall2687]

Thanks Rex

[@jasonz7788]

Great video thank you

[@thomassweets]

Thanks!

[@steveshoemaker6347]

Thanks for the excellent review of the Handley Page video..... Old F-4 Shoe🇺🇸

[@makschorney2514]

Always interested in interwar... please,please do the Stakken E20

[@stevetournay6103]

The four-engined all metal monoplane from 1920? Yes. A decade ahead of its time...and the decade in question saw rapid advancement.

[@jayg1438]

Another significant step into the 4 engine heavy bombers that would dominate late stage WWII. The Short Sterling/ Handley Page Halifax/ Avro Lancaster/ B-17/ B-24 and B-29 did not happen without these type of bomber designs. The UK hung onto the twin engined bi-plane bombers a bit longer than the US. In the USA we had the Keystone Bombers, very much a Handley Page Hanley/ Vickers Vimy/ Vickers Virginia peer. Then Glenn Martin came up with the Martin B-10 and bomber design was changed forever. Our cousins across the pond followed it up soon. In the US, took a step back with the B-18 Bolo, then USA went heavy, heavy with the 4 engined B-17. The UK followed a few years later with the Short Sterling. Yep the Short Sterling was basically a generation after the B-17. The rest is history. Even as a Yankee, I feel the Lancaster was the best 4 engine bomber of the European front. The B-17 was the prototype and the B-24 was the equivalent. The B-29 followed on after.

[@snackweasle6516]

Sorry to be an arse, but wasn't the Napier Lion an Arrow rather than a V format, with 3 banks of cylinders not 2?

[@RexsHangar]

Correct! The Napier lion was a broad arrow W-12 (W-12s can have three or four banks of cylinders depending on who you talk to), my brain was running on autopilot and I said V-12 by accident.

[@johnstirling6597]

@@RexsHangar Lucky the arrestor cable was there to catch you😁😁

[@mikebaker2436]

The "d" is for "distress". It's not in the name because we put it in the heart of the test pilots.

[@henkormel5610]

Just one remark, the Napier Lion was a W12 with 3 banks of 4 cilinders. The exhaust manifold on the left hand side clearly has four cilinders that feed it.

[@peterjohnson6273]

Yup! Interested! :>)

[@byrdman50010]

What a beast.

[@erikwellerweller8623]

A problem with leading edge slats is that they suddenly and dramatically increase drag when the angle of attack goes past the point where air bypasses them, is my understanding. Zenith CH 701 stol planes famously punch the front landing gear thru the fuselage because the sudden loss of speed causes the tail to stall and drop the nose. Not what you want approaching a carrier deck I would imagine.

[@darrenharvey6084]

The Napier Lion is a W12 .

[@migueldelacruz4799]

That has the appearance of an absolute work horse.

[@Paladin1873]

Looks like an oversized S.E.5a.

[@Diego-zz1df]

Please take a look at the german WWI Riesenflugzeug bombers.

[@alan-sk7ky]

Did it escape from a Blackburn drawing board through an open window?

[@thehack813]

Not complaining about all of the dives on antique aircraft, I can see how getting info for them is much easier than info that might still be classified for newer airframes. But will we be getting dives for aircraft for post 1946?

[@RexsHangar]

Yep! Just for the sake of my sanity I'm beginning to do things in chronological order, these shorter videos are helping me fill gaps in the video schedule while I work on the BIG videos behind the scenes (ww2 aircraft and then the cold war stuff) :D

[@user-pu9uh4ol8b]

can you please talk about the arsenal-delan VG.33.C1 ?

[@longrider42]

Can you say "Corsair" I bet you can. Seems it had problems with carrier landing also. Until the British figured it out :)

[@coreyandnathanielchartier3749]

and then came the Supermarine Scimitar..........

[@womble321]

The lion was not a v12 it had 3 banks of 4 to reduce its length.

[@billevans7936]

❤

[@XXfea]

G R E A T

[@oldfatbastad6053]

Crinklewood?

[@SuperchargedSupercharged]

Interested

[@cozycammel369]

Hello

[@wormyboot]

Krinklewood is an objectively bad name for a place where you build airplanes.

[@jimsvideos7201]

Crashing a wooden aircraft at Crinklewood, huh?

[@matthyde693]

"Continental Drift* Mint! 🖕🖕

[@seanmorgan1759]

The Handley Page Hanley Pae Haney Pa Hany P Hay Ha H.

[@jankarlsson5358]

Everything become very interesting in your videos, 😊Thank you so much I wish you a very nice weekend

[@Titus-as-the-Roman]

The Handley was obviously a good practice machine for what would later be the F4U Corsair, The British were able to land these high performance fighters on carriers when the Americans $hit-Canned the whole corsair carrier business because they kept crashing upon landing, originally the Marines used them on land bases until the British navy embarrassed our guys to to use it again on carriers.

[@MrLBPug]

As designed the F4U had some significant flaws that had to be ironed out before it was (considered) safe to use aboard US carriers. It would stall the port wing earlier than the starboard wing at low speed _and_ at sudden sharp increase in throttle (solution: a stall strip on the starboard wing, so both wings stalled at the same time); its landing gear struts caused a significant bounce on landing (solution: relief valves on the oleo struts to gradually release the hydraulic pressure); and the cockpit was set low and far back in the fuselage, causing trouble for the pilot to view the carrier deck over the long nose (solution: moving the cockpit forward; further improvements by the British were raising the seat by 7 inches and installing a clear blown canopy hood instead of the original 'bird cage', which further improved visibility). However, the most important factor to make landing the F4U aboard a carrier safe was adopting a gradual left-hand turn to keep the carrier deck in view between the fuselage and the left wing, only levelling out at the very last phase of the approach. That was what the British Fleet Air Arm pilots found out, as they initially also had trouble landing their F4Us on their carriers and their fair share of crashes. The same practice was already established for landing the Supermarine Seafire aboard carriers, as it had similar issues as the Corsair: a long nose and a low-set cockpit with lacklustre visibility forward-and-down. Eventually the US Navy would adopt the aforementioned solutions too and the F4U was successfully used from US Navy aircraft carriers from 1944 onward.

[@CFG-eb3my]

sad to discover shorts

[@CFG-eb3my]

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[@williamgreen7415]

Thanks!