Hands-On: Lone Echo for Oculus Touch

At this year's Oculus Connect, we played a new VR game that may be our favorite virtual reality experience yet. Lone Echo is the first game we've played that lets us travel in real-time around its world without getting us sick. Its movement mechanic is ingenious!
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[@xero1982]

Good to see some quality AAA games coming to VR now, this looks awesome.

[@bananaboy482]

only to oculus which sucks considering its not a better product but their reaping benifits

[@Luter9]

they're both a better product, their's trade offs with both HMDS,. Do you want a larger FOV, or Sharper image? Multiple people in the room, or a camera, that can potentially track you're furniture in the future, but only allows one player at a time in one space. not to mention all of the exclusive technology that goes into rendering on the rift, like spacewarp.

[@bananaboy482]

Jacob Nielsen sharper image? I thought they were the same. And potentially track furniture? I could yea but does it?

[@matthewlake182]

The Rift has better image quality and better controllers. But as Jacob said, there are trade off between both systems. They're both good!

[@BlobVanDam]

I had a dream a while back about this kind of locomotion in VR. They must have stolen the idea from my dream. And then started developing it before I had the idea.

[@Minmataro718]

I think this sold me on VR just now.

[@kuro2ck]

Been into VR a while, but watching this puts a smile on my face. The movement looks awesome.

[@Pfromm007]

I hope its better than Adrift, that game gave me severe nausea and cluster headaches for at least four to five days.

[@colhapablap]

that sounds awful. adrift seemed more like a quick vr cash-in than something with mechanics that were built from the ground up for vr like this game. norm and jeremy say it here as well as during the latest vr minute(s), but apparently this game is incredible in mitigating motion sickness, especially considering how much 3d movement is actually involved in the gameplay.

[@DMan-ud6bt]

+kuro2ck Same here! This looks awesome, and I can't wait to play it!

[@theUglyManowar]

+Arkadiem I feel real bad fer u and for anyone who has bodily weaknesses towards stereographic experiences... But I really wish such victims didn't need to share their weakness with everyone so vocally. I understand free speech and expression blah blah blah. But I already feel that such whining has already hurt my ability to enjoy my 3dvision experiences where such whining negatively impacts my interests. I would be more supportive if voicing such concerns might result in something positive. ( u folks are genetically engineered to not have pansy inner ear handling and weak stomachs making u stereo Macho mucho ) But that is not going to happen. So yer whining has nothing but negative impact! Negative results. You are sharing negativity. Whereas keeping yer mouth shut is positive. Has a positive effect. For the industry and all it's paychecks. For gamers who do not suffer the same issues and love their chaotic stereoscopic experiences. I liken it to the liquor industry. People who can not hold their liquor keep their miserable conditions to themselves. They do not go to bars and whine that alcohol makes them nauseous! How do you think that would be appreciated by those trying to escape to their corner haven fer a late night vacay? How does going online where stereoscopic interests are relevant and pointing out how nauseous stereo movement makes one any different? It is unreasonable. And economically mean when one considers that changing public opinion can have fiscally drastic impact? I do not think easily nauseous folks are mean spirited trolls? They r just unlucky and have not considered that over vocalizing their condition might hurt another person's interests! I should be able to have been gaming with three QHD monitors in 3dvision surround with SLI support for a while now till VR became more viable with supported games. But the bugs with ROG swift has made it an either or experience unless one was very lucky. ( I am stuck with 3 27 inch FHD acer s instead ) And now hardly no game takes 3dvision into consideration anymore. UDK use to work with 3dvision great by default. Now with Unreal Engine 4 I have to prey with every new release that 3dvision support is included. On the upside assets created with sterescopic consideration are a lot more convincing and charming than assets created with stereoscopic considerations as only an afterthought. Only now are a lot of devs realizing this as more "in VR asset creation tools like Unreal's VR editor" being concentrated on. We could have had a long legacy of DCC with concentration of stereo with 3dvision already! But now we are only playing catch up. And I am positive that the nay-saying is a leading determining factor that has had a horrible negative impact. One can call anything based on technology a gimmick. With enough voices louder than everyone else that opinion will be adverse. Heck 24 frames a second to give the illusion of life is a special effect. One can then argue that the cinematic experience is a gimmick. Don't understand why we can't have our gimmick. When it doesn't hurt negative opinion to keep it to themselves if there is no positive effect in stating their negative view.

[@animatter1696]

Two words: Oh My God! So much potential. And it seems like the presence of the fingers in VR (whatever the technology) is quite an important thing.

[@mythrin]

Teleportaion is practical but boring. Moving with joystick is more exciting but sickness inducing. Now this, this is what sold me. Moving with your hands and tricking your brain into not having motion sickness is genius.

[@LilRedRasta]

The only problem is you can't have zero g in every game.

[@mythrin]

LilRedRasta Yeah, I wish there was some ultimate solution, treadmills could be an option, but they're big, expensive and don't work that well to be honest. Anyway hand locomotion in this game at least is genius.

[@LilRedRasta]

+Mythrintia they should hire a company who is experienced at making treadmills for exercise. The gaming community might not be the best to solve the issue. I think a solution is out there. People just have to innovate on current gym technology. I also have some ideas that would take treadmills beyond just walking and running . Sadly I'm an idea guy and not a nuts and bolts guy. I don't have the tools to make it happen.

[@mythrin]

LilRedRasta I can relate, if I was an engineer I would have changed the world by now. But inventions will forever be doodles in my notebook. But yeah I agree the gaming industry alone isn't enough to make something that requires psychical movement. I was thinking if they used advanced software to calculate stride length, speed, direction, while using a well built treadmill with friction simulation and advanced motors that could change pace accordingly with the person.

[@Keitaro333]

Its honestly kinda hard to believe it works like that but if so, amazing. Game itself also looks great.

[@LilBigHuge]

This looks so fun. So glad I thought it through and got a rift instead of jumping for the vive.

[@codshortclips]

What a beautifully simple movement solution for VR. So impressed with this!

[@jordanhorst6]

this movement mechanic would make for an interesting competitive multiplayer fps.

[@SaOzLi]

#makethisideatrend

[@sinnedmp7090]

zero gravity arena from enders game - i would participate

[@Luter9]

if you have a vive id recommend screwing around in the gunnasium in hot dogs horseshoes and hand grenades

[@christaulbee6402]

Exactly what I was thinking!

[@isakevorkian3635]

he's my best friend lol

[@aaron4820]

Hotdog Horseshoes and Hand Grenade did that moving mechanics months ago and it kinda sizzled into nothing, glad someone's making it into much more.

[@VRGalaxy_762]

This looks incredible guys! Keep showing us more VR games!!

[@Stinkys8050]

This looks fantastic! Can't wait to play it.

[@NikoKun]

After playing Mission ISS, I'm so hyped for this game! Zero-G hand-movement is amazing in VR, certainly the way to go for VR space-scifi games.

[@Clairvoyant81]

Pretty awesome... that's probably the first VR game I've seen that makes me consider buying a VR headset.

[@AntiochZannex]

This looks amazing.

[@Anniemax1]

this looks awesome

[@pixelstrikegames6380]

this game looks super rad!

[@JoeIdolChannel139]

This is the real VR experience.

[@aigen-journey]

God damn it guys! Now I have to buy Oculus. Wish me luck explaining my wife why I need another VR set.

[@Thebuzzer1]

If you want I can program you a virtual wife who wouldn't mind you having 2 headsets.

[@Thebuzzer1]

If you want I can program you a virtual wife who wouldn't mind you having 2 headsets.

[@Thebuzzer1]

If you want I can program you a virtual wife who wouldn't mind you having 2 headsets.

[@davidvincent380]

Too late "to buy Oculus", Zuckerberg already did it.

[@brickman409]

this looks really cool

[@Wulable]

Looks really cool! I hope it turns out to be a good game

[@TheChanclasVerdes]

I was waiting for this.

[@franklaserna3871]

So cool!

[@MarCuseus]

Great looking game

[@Jannoproductions]

Great work with the background noise removal, Joey. Must be difficult to get decent sound at busy events like this. Nice work :-)

[@robinwersich3424]

I saw the trailer of this and thougt it looked very boring, but now that I saw the gameplay footage, it looks awsome!

[@lukecook7192]

It's funny to see Ready At Dawn working on a 90 FPS game, after they said that 24 FPS for their last game was "cinematic".

[@larsmuldjord9907]

Really looking forward to stuff like this. Gamepad games got old really fast in VR. hand presence is where it's at. I can't count how many times I've been playing a VR gamepad game on my Rift where I've thought: "This is cool, but maaaan, would it be cooler if I could actually see my hands in here". I think that's where VR gets interesting for me in the long run. Having the HMD is no doubt a really cool experience. And I still love playing certain games and checking out new weird new demos. BUT, immersion is something that is greatly connected with presence. And presence is hands. We all know that weird image of a human where they've enlarged the parts of the body where he have the most sense. And there's a reason that model has large hands. Presence comes, not only from what you see, but to a very large degree, from what you reach out and grab for. I mean, it's one of the first things a baby learns. Clearly that shows how highly it is prioritized by the brain for getting a feel for the space you inhabit.

[@larsmuldjord9907]

Here's a KZbin friendly version of the model I mention: www.maxplanckflorida.org/fitzpatricklab/homunculus/cms/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/homunculus-front.png

[@SammeLagom]

Man im droolin over here... God the future of VR yeah baby! Im gonna go crazy. :-p

[@jphamspam]

last time i was this early hugh mongus was just a dad joke

[@PNFDAD]

Want! Want! Want!

[@mgatelabs]

I need to play this

[@dedmanzombie]

Fuck you pizza 4 life

[@dedmanzombie]

Lmao 😜

[@GruntyGame]

If you mounted the sensor above you, this would be really relaxing lying down. Sure your movement will be limited but it would be relaxing.

[@namfromwyoming]

The oculus touch controllers put the oculus above the vive for me.

[@NicoIasTravolta]

Nice thing!

[@gaijin3405]

Star Citizen must support VR... and these mechanics 😍

[@WinterEC]

This looks like it could become the basis for a VR recreation of the Battle School game from Ender's Game. That would be enough to sell me on VR right now.

[@Handcraftedmusicvideos]

Best. Game. Ever. 😬

[@rolithesecond]

Hey, Evolution! Are you listening? We need our feet turned back into hands again, thanks!

[@niqhtt]

This looks !@#$$^% amazing

[@c0ur5ge4]

if they can manipulate the sense of touch (like the VR smell from southpark thing) + this... it would be awesome.

[@JudahMantell]

I feel like if done properly, this climbing/pulling mechanic for movement would go amazingly (no pun intended) in a Spider-Man game... Yeah, this sounds spectacular! (...this time the pun was intended...).

[@StevenIngram]

That's a really cool mechanic. You know what they could make with this? Do you remember the battle room in Ender's Game?

[@salamanderander8057]

I think you and one other person are literally the only people on Earth who watched that dumpster fire.

[@coreyhughes1456]

Well it was a book first... quite a popular one.

[@StevenIngram]

I first read it in 1986. ;)

[@Sepharite]

Ironically they did.

[@KaliTakumi]

Can someone who's tried this tell me if there's haptic feedback for grabbing things?

[@Keitaro333]

There is vibration feedback in the touch controllers.

[@__aceofspades]

The problem is you have no feedback from grabbing things and letting go, as your hands are always gripping the controllers even when you are holding anything in game. Also this isnt new, its literally the climb, but in space without set places to grab.

[@LilRedRasta]

the controllers have some feedback in them. Its subtle, but there.

[@spooky_electric]

This is so damned cool. I need a stronger PC so bad so I can justify getting an Oculus Rift.

[@jimmygray3452]

Kinda want to sell my Vive now.

[@mythrin]

I bought both but sold my Vive because of money, but also because I wanted to make the bet on Oculus because it seemed like it had more dedication in making the games and hardware. After Palmer's shitstorm and exclusivity bullshit, it was still worth it :)

[@themanthemyththelegend1392]

According to tested the oculus has better (sharper) visuals, easier to setup, and better tracking reliability, then they totally bash it after saying these things because vive came with remotes... I have both and the oculus is staying, the vive blur gives me eye fatigue, also now you can use the oculus on steam... Shit can the HTC mines on craigslist right now.

[@mythrin]

Michael Foister That's Valve fanatics for ya.

[@CarrotSurvivor]

Jimmy Gray you can just play this with revive

[@AyOopLad]

it plays on vive and it has better res.. use revive,.

[@chrischode8801]

what happened to one day builds?

[@seer2046]

does anyone know what game is the poster represents to in 0:12？

[@pryzmgaming]

Is this vive compatible also?

[@Veptis]

have done something really this with Leap Motion. I dislike that you never revisited the Leap Motion Controller for VR. It is featured in some of your videos but it is missing out. and this game has zero G but you slow down?

[@merrickx]

I mean... an air atmosphere doesn't create THAT much friction. Buuuttt.. I imagine the slow-down is kind of necessary, considering you don't actually throw your weight around, so you could easily, in VR, throw yourself at ridiculous speeds.

[@luxource]

+Zwenk Wiel You said a couple of correct things without properly understanding them. Yes, the gravity on ISS is about the same as on Earth, but it is not the gravity itself that gives you the absence of weight on the orbit. You weight nothing because you are constantly freely falling together with ISS itself, which means you and ISS have the same accelleration (g). Therefore nothing is changing your relative velocity inside ISS if you are not touching anything, so you can fly straight. And you do not need to be in vacuum to experience weightlessness, air only adds a tiny drag. You can be on ISS, falling elevator or a falling plane.

[@3djooboy]

Did you shoot the interview footage on a Blackmagic Ursa?

[@pixelstrikegames6380]

How do we get a Tested interview :)

[@arcmchair_roboticist]

Yay oculus exclusive

[@dennispremoli7950]

I lardeay see speed runs gameplays of this where the aim is to get the perfect trajectory first try

[@captainhook3962]

Is this coming to PSVR?

[@Styleth]

Is it only me, or does Norm remind you of Kermit? :P Not to be rude...!

[@Vartazian360]

so now a floating simulator. lol

[@SodaPopin5ki]

Will this require 3 cameras, or will the default 2 been adequate?

[@LilRedRasta]

2 is fine

[@mythrin]

You're not moving around much, so it will only require 2. Besides, 2 cameras provide accurate tracking within 13 x 13 ft anyway, just check out Reality Check VR.

[@Ogel_]

This looks a bit like the arena in ender's game.

[@DummyAccount]

I can already see people rubbing the characters' butts, I hope they react ingame to that XD

[@inkno701]

or trying to throw the others off into space

[@philipquaglino]

They do lol, sometimes her butt is the only thing to grab a hold of :) lol

[@scarecrow_gilk]

is it just me or is the arena mode enders game

[@vicrosa5040]

is this really how they are showing the game

[@andymrkipling]

If this gentlemen said 'kind of' a lot less, I would've liked this video.

[@Ganjulation]

What ever happened to the rock climbing game?

[@SegginsProductions]

Ganjulationess3DS The climb? It's still around and has touch support for when touch comes out!

[@joozu]

Please tell me this is coming to the vive as well!

[@hollywoodguy70]

No.. its a touch game. No wizards teleporting with magic wands

[@joozu]

David Plentl what? How does that make sense?

[@hollywoodguy70]

It means you can't use wands to grip the surfaces. Maybe they'll make a version in the future where the robot has grappling hooks like in Windlands.

[@joozu]

David Plentl but they've mapped it to a button press, not a gesture, so should be easy to port to the vive...

[@jakobkudsksteensen3816]

when you do a full fist on the touch controller you are practically touching 5 buttons.

[@marcusfenix8597]

when does it come to PSVR? !

[@Tumoxa89]

PSVR doesn't have roomscale, you won't be able to turn around.

[@JeremyWilliams1]

Technically, this isn't a room scale game. You can play it standing in one spot. However, you do need to rotate 360 degrees while playing and PSVR doesn't handle that very well with the move wands.

[@Sunfoni]

HTC Vive or Oculus???which should I get..I'm using a MSI 1070 i7 6700

[@evilwarez]

Get Vive. Better buy it from offline store or amazon.

[@Sunfoni]

evilwarez I was Vive 💯 until I seen the Oculus Touch and the games coming out for it..so it pretty much going to have the same price as the Vive..I'm going to do my research tonight

[@evilwarez]

***** Oculus touch has bad tracking quality. And even with Facebook buying developers with exclusives you can run all rift games flawlessly on the Vive with revive hack.

[@Sunfoni]

evilwarez if your serious then the Vive it is

[@evilwarez]

***** github.com/LibreVR/Revive/wiki/Compatibility-list

[@DavidDewis]

This looks good, but I'm concerned because adrift made me feel very Nauseous.

[@DanielA-yg3un]

Anyone else notice the video is a little too bright.

[@vividhkothari1]

It looks darker to me. Their recent videos have some dark tint to it.

[@hellyeahreactions]

take my money

[@larsi1194]

Sooo, basically a HTC Vive... only later?

[@SegginsProductions]

Lars TheLaurel No, from what I've heard people like touch more than the vive wands because vives die quite quickly and apparently their second generation will be more similar to touch. Personal preference really.

[@Stone815]

EVERYONE eventually gets their sea legs when in VR long enough. Motion sickness should never be an issue when games are developed.

[@huldu]

Is it better than no man's sky?

[@salamanderander8057]

Your question makes no sense. Are apples better than oranges?

[@milanstevic8424]

they clearly have more antioxidants yet are less fragrancy they are also much more meaty but less juicy also you never hear "an orange a day..." also orange is an autological word, and apple might be a brand etc

[@sigynnnn]

:)

[@edricew]

What's up with that instagram filter look? Unless you're faking being in a sandstorm I'd rather have a more natural video.

[@StingrayOfficial]

I do like the look, but I agree, keep the cinema look for movies.

[@ChronotriggerJM]

Someone get Neil Degrass Tyson in this thing. STAT.

[@westingtyler1]

i would love to see an ISS sim using these mechanics, and watch NDT demo it.

[@Soopytwist]

Er...there is, it's called Mission: ISS. I'm guessing Mission: ISS came out after you posted this comment?

[@losexd88]

lol

[@amelialikesfrogs5778]

ready player one anyone?

[@Jona69]

It's exclusive to oculus isn't it... fuck

[@LilRedRasta]

timed exclusive

[@Jona69]

LilRedRasta Really?! That's awesome :D

[@LilRedRasta]

Actually, i'm not entirely sure. don't quote me on that. I am however sure that some hacker will make it so you can play it on vive too.

[@CosmicEpiphany]

Unless it has that drm software baked in.

[@CosmicEpiphany]

***** Yeah completely forgot about that...if there's a wide gap in the controller tech then it most likely won't ever work with the Vive. Well at least not properly.

[@aminogugaali834]

AMINO GUGA ALI 765-44-4400

[@mjaymagic9267]

I must say.. I hate how the games exclusive to 1 headset smh...shit bugs me ...i wish every oculus owner turn into mindless robots as soon as they put rift on....😂 yea omma hatter so watt ..

[@born2biscuit]

200 dollars for some wiimotes

[@dennispremoli7950]

Im sorry guys. Why dont you concentrate on making SC Vr a REAL thing. That would get you sooo much more money if they game releases and a leagcy that will last for soo many years.

[@dannysnothere6230]

Just buy a vive

[@Jackrabbit710]

This is a VR seller. Played it all weekend. It's just so damn good!!!!!!!