Hands On With Even Longer + Brand New RAW Bracketing Feature!

[@David_Addison]

Does it get better than RAW + frame averaging + bracketing??? (BTW, I made mistakes with my mic setup when recording. Will sound much better next time!)

[@mariotomiak]

Nice hands-on video. Thanks for your efforts and your critique! For sure there is room for refinement in the user interface. Seeing you taking a 3 seconds shot for checking the exposure, confirms the usefulness of one of the next features to arrive, which is just a non-averaged test shot including the bracketed one if bracketing is active. This really help to achieve the maximum image quality and therefore is just on top of my list of features to be added. File format indicator as well;-)

[@David_Addison]

Thanks Mario! Looking forward to even more new features but give someone else a chance! 😆

[@hexworthy]

Thank you 😊 Another brilliant video explaining everything in detail but in a way everyone can understand. Your videos are really helping me get the most out of my new phone. Thank you 😊

[@jamesss1953]

Very very good explanation and well explained.....thanks...... 😊

[@cyrillebrugger7241]

Thank you from the bottom of my heart for this video. This is what I've been looking for for years and I'm happy to now embark on the adventure of long exposure. By the way: what a pleasant voice to listen to you. All the best!

[@David_Addison]

You're very welcome! I'll try to keep it pleasant 😊

[@WillNewcomb]

I'm still fairly new to your channel, but the more I see, the more I like! Thank you.

[@badryousef9019]

you are under rated man ! srsly why I already knew about u

[@roxanaflorina4232]

Job well done again! The app looks easy to be used and the final results are gorgeous! Liking it 👍!

[@David_Addison]

Mulțumesc soția mea frumoasa 🥰

[@CollectedLight1]

Great review and explanations. I will be checking it out.

[@David_Addison]

Thanks John! Check back once you’ve had a play around with it and let me know what you think!

[@alancobb387]

Great video David! I must be doing something wrong - every time I try a raw exposure, no matter the time, it’s always under or over exposed 🙈

[@ludodockx9006]

Hello David, thanks for this really informative video, very understandable, even for not native English speakers. Which app do you use to show the “info” you have next to the image stating the number of frames used in the image? Again, thanks for this video!

[@ujjayisoundsystem]

Does the app allow for three bracketed photos? This could be a great app for real estate photography

[@ArminHirmer]

it is a game changer. did not play around a lot and had some problems with base exposure. I set everything nice, but my 3 min exposure was way blown out :D needs more practice haha. BUT I LOVE IT

[@David_Addison]

Thanks for watching ad usual, Armin! You’ll get used to which shutter speeds are best for each situation 😊 👍

[@bandofbros8112]

Does even longer also have a intervalometer for long exposure timelapses?

[@gmanfitness]

I just have a question about bracketing. When should you and when shouldn't you do exposure bracketing?

[@jamesss1953]

just noticed your gadget holding your phone to tripod - can you tell me more please?

[@criticaltinker]

any way it could do 3 frames for bracketing?

[@PGNogueira]

I've already installed the app this week and I've done some tests. I haven't subscribed to the option for RAW files yet, but even so, it's without a doubt an extraordinary app without a rival worthy of mention. Those who consider the app expensive have no idea that a quality ND filter for a DLSR costs five times as much.

[@dmgfilmproductionandphotog1567]

can you make a milky way timelapse forn non pro subscription?

[@PGNogueira]

@@dmgfilmproductionandphotog1567 Yes, but you don't get the RAW file. You have to stack all the JPEG files in post.

[@dmgfilmproductionandphotog1567]

@@PGNogueira nice, it is ok for me even i manually make timelpase,. btw how long does the time interval shot for this app? sorry to ask. i don't find any video of this app full features .

[@PGNogueira]

@@dmgfilmproductionandphotog1567 3 seconds to several hours if I’m not mistaken.

[@dmgfilmproductionandphotog1567]

@@PGNogueira are you sure??? i had found that the interval time was for the automatically stacking of frames inside the app. which means when you set the long exposure for example 10min then the app will shot in interval shot inside it but will result in 1 image only. meaning pressing the shutter button once will result only in 1 image.

[@IanRiot]

On iphone 12 (not pro) is it possible to shot RAW even with the ultra wide lens? or is it available only for the wide one? Thanks

[@mikeobrien4365]

Hi David, Thanks for the video, really useful. I have been using Even Longer for a week now trying to see how it performs. Interestingly I seem to have found a challenge for the app when recording a long exposure of a burbling stream that is flowing quite quickly. It was a sunny day with the sun reflected off the water. Rather than resulting in an image with a smooth flow I find that the image is quite speckled rather than smooth. I assume this is because the splashing water is captured as discrete changes to the image when in FA mode. I also found that on the edge of the reflected area there was a purple colour aberration. This also occurred on a smooth sea image, a purple fringe on the edge of the reflected sun. Have you come across this or do have any suggestions as to what I might be doing wrong or how to fix it"?

[@David_Addison]

Hi Mike, yes I came across this myself in the exact same situation. It's probably the most challenging situation you can capture RAW long exposures in with your phone. Yes, if the water is splashing then all of those little chaotic changes in direction will be capture, and it won't be helped by the speckling of the light reflecting off the water into the lens; but you can get rid of the purple fringing by decreasing the saturation of purples and pinks in your photo editor. Personally, I just went back to the location when the sun wasn't so harsh. It meant 4 hours of driving but that's what I did 😆 you can see the photos in question here kzbin.info/www/bejne/aX3Gk6KEhLhqr68 if you skip to around 7:55

[@cuuppaajoe]

Subscription? You have GOT to be kidding. Lol

[@jasonlee4267]

I am getting very average results using this app so far, it really struggles with dark areas often leaving them pretty underexposed, then if I compensate it blows the skies out, am I missing something? I do not have the pro version yet and so I am waiting to get to understand this app better

[@schretter1]

David,. Thank you for bringing this app into the "light". It is hard to keep track without your testing. In would assumed that this is true RAW and not PRORAW. Thus does the app use a fixed exposure over the entire capture interval or is exposure changed for each actual snapshot taken? E.g if the sun goes in and out during the 10 minute interval. Wouldn't using the HDR built into the iPhone and hence JPG give us better dynamic range for overall shot?

[@David_Addison]

No it's not ProRAW, and yes it's a fixed exposure over the course of the capture. While iPhone JPEGs use special processing like HDR to capture more of a tonal range, you don't actually get a higher dynamic range file, just a file with the appearance of having a higher dynamic range due to compression and tone mapping. My next video might demonstrate this for you 😃 stay tuned!

[@schretter1]

@@David_Addison Thanks for your reply and I'm looking forward to your next video. Your are more precise than me. Yes the iPhone is not achieving the real dynamic range of DSLRs by its little trickery, but as you know photography is based on first the range of light we can actually collect and then a set of compress and tone mapping exercises to enable display on our computers or devices and then some more so we can print the image. Apple just cheats and adds an additional one in the original collection phase.

[@schretter1]

While this app does do fine for stationary subjects it still does not provide the long exposures needed to capture motion such as figure skating etc with the iPhones. The iPhone only allows third party apps a max of 1 sec exposure time and actually can use up to 2 sec exposures in its own lower light mode. Other phones can keep the shutter open up to 10 sec and under the correct light create great shots of movement. It would be fantastic if this app could somehow do that. David said the Mario knows how to get real light trails with this app (coming soon?) and maybe that will help with capturing motion with slow shutter.

[@roostermotion]

Is the histogram part of the In-App purchase?

[@David_Addison]

No it's included.

[@Fstop59]

David, I would love to see you do a tutorial on how to do Light Trails using the EL app and a ND filter so that you don't get the morse code effect.

[@David_Addison]

Coming soon! 😊

[@Fstop59]

@@David_Addison I will be watching for it. THANKS

[@bermonty4442]

Can this app be used as an intervalometer for example astrophotography?

[@David_Addison]

No but a light trails mode is coming soon.

[@jane22226]

I know what I’m going to be doing this weekend… is there a Instagram group or hashtag we can post images too?

[@David_Addison]

Sounds good! Nothing official, just #EvenLonger I suppose. Looking forward to seeing what you capture!

[@AjayParkash]

Is this app support RAW in iphone xr?

[@David_Addison]

Yep 👍

[@yatalt1]

Is there a way to stop saving the pictures in the file system? Given that they are stored on the camera roll, and unless I missed something, I find this feature quite useless and obviously, it doubles the amount of storage used by the app.

[@David_Addison]

You can turn it off in the app's settings

[@romainprovost7164]

For me is just too expensive. I'm still waiting for discount price.

[@mariotomiak]

Wan't come before any other app can do RAW long exposure with bracketing.

[@lggfmeat]

Very expensive app! 23$? There are many alternatives.

[@mariotomiak]

The only other way to get RAW long exposure is a DSLR or mirrorless with ND filters. Each ND filter with a usable quality costs more than Even Longer…. There are some low quality options available in the App Store. And yes, they are cheaper.

[@mariotomiak]

Please just name one that shoots RAW long exposure and I‘ll give you Even Longer for free today!

[@lggfmeat]

@@mariotomiak procamera app capture bracketed photos even raw format

[@mariotomiak]

@@lggfmeat no, no long exposures RAW. Send me a 5 minutes RAW exposure, if I‘m wrong

[@lggfmeat]

@@mariotomiak