Hangkai 12hp 2-stroke outboard unboxing and initial break in review

[@DavidWalls_ijustplayguitar]

I’m new to this, just purchased my first small fishing boat and purchased one of these motors and this video definitely helped me tremendously! Thank you 🙏🏽

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Glad my video helped. They are great little motors. Make sure to lubricate the lubrication points and the spline.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mojIq6OEpJ2ir9U

[@Aceman597]

Just got one. Peeled off 2 stroke and side decals. Ceramic coated tonight. Going to ad gear oil tomorrow and break it in. I dont like to use barrel too long to heat up water. This thing is replacing my really heavy new mercury 9.9 command xlt kicker for a 230 walk around.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Yeah, those 4 stroke models can be really heavy. This thing has the same weight as my 6hp Tohatsu. 60 pounds.

[@tobyz.3452]

Looks good, If it runs as good as it looks, you got a winner!

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Yeah, I think it is a winner. I'm gonna take it to the water soon and see how it performs

[@yoster77]

Clarification on the gas. The fuel rating hangkai gives in the manual is the EMEA octane level. Which translates to US 87 aka, regular. You can find these conversion tables online, but rest assured that US 87 meets the specification

[@ErickMartinSucre]

And I agree. So far the motor is working flawlessly with 87 octane.

[@SpinFireTV]

@@ErickMartinSucre Is it Ethanol safe like the standard E10 87 Gas?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@SpinFireTV Yes. I do recommend that you run the engine dry by unplugging the fuel line once you're done with your trip. It takes like a minute, and will prevent the carb from clogging up when not in use.

[@stephenbeard9882]

I had the Hangkai 6hp. It was a great motor. Super light and always started easy. My wife didn’t like the smoke and the noise though. 🤷‍♂️

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Yeah, they are noisy for sure.

[@ktulu310]

Is it reliable? I don’t mind the noise lol

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Very, but you gotta do the break-in period, no matter what.

[@RayVandeneynde]

Just Bought one.....Thanks a bunch Eric for your video...enjoyable and informative !!

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Glad I can help

[@johnpalmer4996]

I wanna buy the Hangkai 12 HP Long Shaft and use it as a backup motor on my 25 Foot Panga Boat. My boat has a very narrow beam like 6 feet and there's not enough room on the transom to have 2 motors on there all the time. So what I plan on doing is , I'll store the motor inside the boat wrapped in bubble wrap /a cushion and store it under the bench seat. If my 50 HP Evinrude Etec motor won't start I'll grab the Hangkai and put it on the back and use that. It'll push me at least 5 knots. The 50 HP pushed me 24 knots at slack tide. Either this 12 HP or buy a 6 HP Tohatsu that'll cost twice as much. Willing to gamble on this motor as it's really cheap and I can use this motor to learn how to fix outboards. I looked at videos of the inside of this motor, looks very simple to repair. Love it's only about 70 pounds. Why are they allowed to sell these 2 strokes in the US???

[@ErickMartinSucre]

They are direct clones to the Tohatsu 9.8hp 2-stroke model but they call it a 12hp. They get away with it that way. You can make them last as long as any other outboard with a few TLC tips. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mojIq6OEpJ2ir9U

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Cheapest I have found for Long Shaft: amzn.to/4hSCVeX

[@johnpalmer4996]

@@ErickMartinSucre Even the manual says 9.8 HP on the front cover . I see the motor new on EBAY for $840 plus $27 shipping. They seem to all come from Chino California. I saw your other video with your TLC tips to make the motor last. I'll do everything you said. Thanks for your great videos.

[@johnpalmer4996]

@@ErickMartinSucre Have you ever gone to a repair shop and asked if they would work on Hangkai motors ? I looked for a while on Alibaba and wanted to buy a Yamabisi Outboard. Decided to go with Hangkai because it has a pretty big market in the US and more online support from other owners.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@johnpalmer4996 From what I have heard, shops refuse to work on them. That being said, the parts you need to worry about are wear items. Spark plugs, prop, impeller and other basics

[@dfynt100]

Your video helped this newby so much. Thank you for all the things you shared. I would of had issues

[@ErickMartinSucre]

😊😊😊 Glad I can help

[@MoreCervezas93]

I just ordered the 18hp

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Nice!!!

[@alexstubbins6298]

Looks like a good motor . Unfortunately the sale of new 2stroke outboards has been prohibited in the U.K otherwise i would have one

[@boatsandoutboards9070]

I wonder how the water in the bucket looked like, at the end of this test Even my suzuki 4stroke leaves a blackish residue in the bucket , after 10minutes of flushing.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Oh wow, I did not know that.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Yeah, it's slushy at the moment. I'll make a KZbin short about it

[@md560]

You can buy new 2 stroke in uk if it’s for commercial use which is strange.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@md560 That is strange indeed.

[@mauropotiguar]

I used to own one of those. Great motor. super light and can be really fast .... but I needed reliability so I decided to buy a Suzuki. You cannot find a parts supplier for these. I know that a exact replica of an older generation Tohatsu but never found the exact model i could get parts if i ever needed. Since I was trolling a lot i was inhaling a lot of smoke too. Hey if you need a motor to run in a lake or even a small river thats for you.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

I can't wait to take it on the water and see how it performs.

[@ktulu310]

@@ErickMartinSucrehow has it been? Is it reliable?

[@ktulu310]

Did you have any reliability issues?

[@mattgerhard302]

Thank you for doing this video. Can't believe you clamped it to the side of the bucket like that when you have a great stand. could just put the bucket under the stand. I also think muffs is a bad idea for the purpose you used it for. If the impeller is not pulling water, dropping the leg opening the water pump and greasing it would have been better. typically you do that when swapping an impeller. you wont have muffs in a lake. best to make sure its set up right. (that extra finess you mentioned). Looks like a 1990 9.9/15 yamaha clone. its damn near identical under the cover.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

It's actually a Tohatsu 9.8hp 2-stroke model clone. The bucket would not fit under the stands.

[@mikequain2947]

Hi Erick - Love your vids and info! Just purchased a Hangkai 12hp. Could you please recommend a replacement prop and seller? Thanks- Mike

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Gladly. The Hangkai 12hp is a direct clone of the Tohatsu 9.8hp 2-stroke outboard. It uses a 8.9x7 12 spline prop: amzn.to/4cQNyv7

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Here's the site that allows you to pick the outboard, HP, and if it is a 4 or 2 stroke. It shows you all the different sizes available, Moderate STD (L) being the factory one. www.tohatsu.com/marine/int/accessories/prop.html

[@10-7blue8]

Do these motors come with MSO for titling ? Here in Texas the require all gas outboards be titled.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

I would be lying to you if I said they do. I don't recall getting one if I'm honest.

[@10-7blue8]

Thanks Eric.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Anytime 😊

[@codyrivenburgh6007]

Texas requires the motor itself to be outboard?….. New York requires any boat with a motor to be registered….. but not the motor itself….. I mean I have 3 little outboards that all get used on the same little Jon boat…. The boat gets registered the motors don’t

[@lseverino25]

25.1 you put 3 cup of oil on 6 gallon for the break in period ?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

25:1 equals 5oz per gallon of gas.

[@ConnorsCritters]

Did you ever figure out out how much it weighs? Hangkai website says 65 pounds but I have seen other numbers online. Thanks!

[@ErickMartinSucre]

My Tohatsu 60hp feels slightly heavier. They are about 60 pounds

[@ConnorsCritters]

Thank you! I’m torn between the 12 hp and 6 hp. As we know there is much talk about the 12 hp really being 9.9 hp. Do you know if the Hangkai 6hp is actually 6hp? There is talk that the 6 hp is actually only 3.5 hp and I definitely do not want to go that low on power. Do you have any thoughts as to the 6 hp and it’s actual rating?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@ConnorsCritters It would do fine if you don't mind going slow. The 12hp Hangkai is 60 pounds so it's not too heavy to handle.

[@ConnorsCritters]

Thanks but I’m asking if you know if the 6hp is actually 6hp. The 12hp is only 9.9.

[@ConnorsCritters]

@@ErickMartinSucreI’m asking if the 6hp is actually 6hp. You mention that the 12hp is only 9.9

[@zzs7253]

Is the smell/smoke from the 2 stroke noticeable or bearable? I use a 4 stroke 6hp and am fine of the nearly zero smell of it.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

You notice it during the break-in period, but once you use the 50:1 ratio, not so much. I notice it when I'm in idle a little bit.

[@Mypitbull82]

Cool outboard looks good quality.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

It's sure does. Thanks for watching

[@nyana73]

Is it something special with the Hangkai regarding the oil in the gasoline? Here on the other side of the Atlantic, There is saying to always use 2% oil mix in the gasoline on two strokes outboards. Looks like you use a lot more than that..

[@ErickMartinSucre]

During the break-In period, it needs 5 ounces of 2-Stroke oil for every gallon of gasoline/petrol. After that it only need 2.5 ounces for every gallon.

[@nyana73]

Aha, now I get it... tanks Eric!

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Anytime 😊

[@johngouker3887]

better to much than not enough ! if it says 2oz. per gallon , 2.5 oz. wont hurt it ! 😉

[@ErickMartinSucre]

That's also true, but 5oz to every gallon is plenty.

[@dondig2617]

Great personality great video.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Thank you kindly 😊

[@nyana73]

Eric would be a super great salesman for Tohatsu and Hangkai... he made me choose a 6 hp Tohatsu some years ago.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@nyana73 And I still have that motor after 5 years. I love my 6hp Tohatsu 😃

[@sheamuswalsh251]

Have you had any problems getting parts for that motor what is the best website to look for parts for the hangkai 12 hp

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Oh, it simples. Look up Tohatsu 9.8hp 2-stroke outboard parts. They are identical. The main different being short-shaft and long-shaft models.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Here's an example. I went to Amazon and searched for Tohatsu 9.8hp 2-stroke and these were the results. amzn.to/3N1PIxt

[@ErickMartinSucre]

You'll see some parts are for the 4-stroke model. Be sure to purchase the 2-stroke model parts when needed. The main parts you may need are spark plugs, impeller kits and propellers.

[@chadingerson6354]

Hay ya mate . Whats the difference between the 9.8 and the 12hp . Can a 9.8 be turned into a 12

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Not in this case. Call it misadvertisement. In reality this motor is a direct clone to the 2-stroke Tohatsu outboard. It is just a 9.8

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

When filling the gear box in the leg... emphasise the tightening of the top fill screw...so that there is no air leakage allowing the gear oil to run out when you take the fill adapter out of the bottom hole.. Show the label on the 2 stroke mix oil...not the manufacturer's name but the "TC-W3" That is important as it indicates a water cooled 2 stroke oil.... which is different to any TCW2 oil...which is for air cooled 2 stroke outboards....... Show the vigorous shaking of the fuel tank, tip and roll it to emphasise the importance of proper mixing of the fuel /oil mix to distribute the oil evenly..... The bin needs far more water... attach the motor to the stand and put the leg into the bin...with the water level up to where it would be if it were on the transom of a boat engage one or other of the gears so the drive shaft and the water pump impellor are rotating.... 30 minutes of running out of gear in that puddle will cook the motor... You are also running in/breaking in the gears in the leg.... You want to know if the seals are all good down there as well.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

👍

[@jamiebaker3730]

Hey i just tried my break in process with ear muffs and wasnt peeing water. Does it pee as soon as you start it? Bc i turned it off immediately

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Here's the trick. You turn on the water, start the engine, and then you press in the ear muffs by squeezing them in. This will push the water up, and it'll start to pee just right.

[@jifigz]

Can you tell me how many trim positions this motor has? I'm highly considering grabbing this 12 hp 2-stroke.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

It has 6 slots on it.

[@amazingman9175]

Does the motor come with a certificate of origin or any paperwork so that it can be titled?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

If it did, I think I tossed it.

[@ktulu310]

Still holding up? Is it reliable enough for the ocean?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Absolutely!! You just gotta make sure the break-in period is done. I'm gonna make a video about how it's holding up so far.

[@ktulu310]

@@ErickMartinSucre I’m getting the Saturn 470xl and plan to mainly fish with another heavy set adult with fishing gear. I’ve been watching all your videos and I’m between the 6hp tohatsu and sacrifice speed or shell out the money for a 9.8. The hangkai looks tempting but I’m just worried being in the middle of the ocean with it

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@ktulu310 Itook the Hangkai to the Indian River on the east coast, it did great! You just gotta do the 10 hour break-in, it's very important that you do if you choose the hangkai.

[@BuritoBandito]

Can i charge a marine battery using the hangkai 18hp outboard motor? If i can, what parts would i need to make this happen? Thanks!

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Not to my knowledge. These motors are very affordable but are a little bit limited when it comes to accessories

[@ErickMartinSucre]

If you happen to find a 15hp Yamaha 2-stroke "of which this Hangkai is a clone of" it may come with the starter and alternator with it.

[@joaquinsantillan6257]

I got mine yesterday i ran it today couple hours mine didn't say anything about adding gear oil so I hope it had some in there because i didn't add any😮

[@ErickMartinSucre]

It needs gear oil. Make sure to put some before you take it out on the water.

[@joaquinsantillan6257]

@@ErickMartinSucre do you think i messed anything up?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@@joaquinsantillan6257 If it is a few hours, probably not. Just make sure you do put the oil in it before you run it again.

[@joaquinsantillan6257]

@@ErickMartinSucre thank you bro

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@joaquinsantillan6257 Anytime

[@ManuelMartinez-tz6pq]

Quick question please, when break in time of the outboard motor...do I have to move from neutral to forward or all the time needs to be spend on neutral? Thanks

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Neutral is fine. I did place it on gear a few times, but that is it. I recommend that you still use a high oil mixture when going to the water for the first time. You'll be doing a bit of break-in under load. I used a 35:1 ratio, but a 25:1 will work just fine, it'll just smoke a bit.

[@ManuelMartinez-tz6pq]

@@ErickMartinSucre I did not use oil mix...it is a four stroke and it comes with an oil compartment in the motor...I saw other videos with four stroke motors and they didn't mix the oil with the gasoline...fo you think I still have to that? I'm new to this👍

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@ManuelMartinez-tz6pq OK, what is the make and model of the outboard you purchased?

[@ManuelMartinez-tz6pq]

@@ErickMartinSucre hangkai 6.5 4 stroke

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@@ManuelMartinez-tz6pq Oh! My bad, I was under the impression you had the same as the one in this video. Yeah, you'll be ok. 4-Stroke outboards are far more forgiving when it comes to break-in. Just take it to the water, try not to push it too hard for the 1st 10 hours and you'll be fine. That's what I did with my 6hp Tohatsu 4-stroke outboard.

[@DavidDavid25365]

How ur grass still that green

[@ErickMartinSucre]

The rain, I guess, nor sure my dude.

[@sheamuswalsh251]

Heck he lives in Jacksonville Florida

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Kissimmee

[@omarscomingyo651]

hey erik u worked at brickell fl before? you look familiar

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Brickell, FL? I've never even heard of the town, but I tell ya, I bet that guy was really good-looking, lol

[@LancerNik13]

If this 12hp is a 9.8 clone, what would the hangkai 18hp translate to?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

A Yamaha 15hp 2-stroke outboard. It's an identical clone so the parts are interchangeable.

[@LancerNik13]

@@ErickMartinSucre sounds like a hard choice between the 2 now, damn, giveth your advice on which one oh wise one

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Break-in is a must, no exceptions. The lubing part is just to add longevity

[@ErickMartinSucre]

If you plan to ride by yourself mostly, the 12hp will be the one to go with since it is light and easy to lug around. If you plan on bringing ppl with you in most of your trips, the 18hp is the way to go. Although the 18hp weights around 80 pounds so its still not bad.

[@ThatOutdoors]

Does it have electric start or pull only?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Pull only

[@ManuelMartinez-tz6pq]

Can this outboard motor be break in 10 hours straight or it needs a few hours for a few days? Thanks

[@ErickMartinSucre]

I did mine in 7 days, running it for like an hour and a half everyday

[@ErickMartinSucre]

You can run it 10 hours straight, but if you're using a bucket, the water will get really hot at 1 hour mark. You could place it on a boat at the lake and let it run, that could work.

[@ManuelMartinez-tz6pq]

@@ErickMartinSucre thank you so much 👍

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@@ManuelMartinez-tz6pq Anytime!

[@joaquinsantillan6257]

Where do u have your tilt set at? The fisrt bottom hole on your trim?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

On the first hole.

[@45caminiti]

Hey Erick, does it matter which side you lay the motor down on when transporting it?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Any side would do since it is not a 4stroke motor. I recommend that you unplug the fuel line once you reach the dock and let the motor die while in the water. This will empty the carburetor and will not spill any gas once you lay it down.

[@45caminiti]

@@ErickMartinSucre That's what I thought, but just wanted to make sure. Thanks for the tip on running it out of gas!

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Glad I can help.

[@mattmaltagliati7544]

The only bad thing about this company is they never send a manufacture statement of orgin or bill of sale with the outboard. I live in Misouri and the outboard has to be registered seperate from the boat. It's been 3 months and still can't get the documentation needed to tile the outboard

[@ErickMartinSucre]

I see the problem 😕

[@samuelclements2066]

Nor will you. Sale of new two-strokes outboards in the US are basically banned.

[@ronalddaub9740]

They use more gas because one thing the Piston fires every time it comes up and not every other time like a four-stroke

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Very true. These motors also have a bit more torque because if that.

[@ronalddaub9740]

You have to wait till the thermostat opens

[@ErickMartinSucre]

For what, exactly? I honestly wanna know. Did I miss something?

[@trevorduhon3617]

Where did you order it from?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Amazon: amzn.to/41r13xi

[@ronstewart4241]

What did it cost?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

I got it on October on special for 1k US dollars

[@mf3291]

​@@ErickMartinSucreAt Malaysia the price is rm3400 for 12hp..around 700 usd

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@@mf3291 Nice!!

[@mendiviloutdoorstv]

Lmao 🤣 Hangtsu.. Love it 😅

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Hahahaha!!!

[@JoshuaHobday-e7r]

The only thing with the unleaded and using the cheap gas you want ethanol free on the outboards gas goes bad over bad

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Agreed. I recommend running the motor dry after you finish the trip. This will keep the carb reservoir clear.

[@Damianwynn2014]

5 gallons for 13 Dollars. Wow thats a deal. Its like 5 a gallon here in wa state.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Whoa! 5 bucks for has, that's insane

[@boatsandoutboards9070]

😂😂😂😂 Looks more authentic this way, doesn't it?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

It sure does!!! I did thar for you, lol. Hangtsu!!

[@boatsandoutboards9070]

@ErickMartinSucre by the way I googled it, hangetsu(half moon) is by chance is japanese. Liked the name😂 I one saw a SQNY (chinese)radio , pretending to be a SONY. Reminded me of that

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@boatsandoutboards9070 So I spoke Mandarin without even knowing, lol. Wait, not Mandarin, Japanese

[@boatsandoutboards9070]

@@ErickMartinSucre when you watch too much anime, it's possible 😃

[@ErickMartinSucre]

I love anime, so you may be right.

[@chuckgoodwish3897]

People buy anything made in china due to budget constraints. If you have a deep pocket, do whatever you want, but don’t bash anything from China just because you have bad luck with your purchases. It’s true Quality comes with a price, but sometimes if you’re lucky, the quality comes with low cost also with some of the products from China.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

This little motor is a good example.

[@leoscomputerandguitarrevie978]

I bought the 6 hp motor and just got through the break in period. Now I can switch to 50:1 gas. The 6 HP is a copy of a 5 HP Mercury, Tohatsu or Nissan, which all are very solid. Hopefully the 6 HP will be solid for years to come. These are nice as a trolling motor for fishing and it does the job well. May have to upgrade to a 12 hp in the future. Although I've always wanted to get a Yamaha outboard, but a little pricy right now.

[@tucanman9775]

NO ETHYNOL GAS PLEASE ITS CRYTICAL

[@ErickMartinSucre]

There is a small work-around. When you finish your trip, and you're at the dock, unplug the fuel line and allow the engine to die. This will consume all the gas inside the carb and will prevent clog-ups and gas spillage when laying it down your vehicle. I have a 2018 Tohatsu 6hp and that is what I did for 6 years. Never an issue.

[@joseresendiz6898]

Grease

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Wait, what did I say?

[@ia6980]

Hangkai -China. How reliable is it? Especially when you take it to the ocean for fishing? Tohatsu, Yamaha, Honda, and few others are good reliable motors; who is willing to risk their life with Chinese motor? I've bought Chinese replacement filter for 6hp Tohatsu and my Tohatsu engine died in the ocean, good thing I had electric motor as back up; I found out that brand new Chinese filter got clogged up for no reason and wasn't feeding fuel to carburetor; never again buying any parts from China, especially when it comes to motors.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

It is a fantastic motor. I plan on making a video showing what things to look out for on these motor, and how to make it last just as well as any other outboard. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZaZoHuEfJx9j9E

[@danielpriestley7170]

Now that you have it primed I would test it in the bucket because when you're out on the water you don't have the pressure like a hose

[@531671967]

Why do people waste money on this Chinese Junk? Buy a good used Evinrude, Mercury, or Yamaha two stroke and you’ll be much happier and have no worries.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Been abusing mine and it works just fine. It is a Tohatsu 9.8hp 2-stroke outboard after all. It did need some TLC, proper lubrication mostly, and it works pretty good.

[@Cannacon365]

You opened and watched the video and commented on it, making sure homeboy gets paid 😂 get fwucked 😂