THE DEATH OF MONAT | Everything you need to know about “the beginning of the end”

[@HannahAlonzo]

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[@Rite1010.]

I almost woke my baby up laughing so hard at that Mafia comment on the lawsuit.

[@lilycastle9926]

I liked the long-distance feature. That’s kind of cool. Wish I’d had that back when my husband was deployed. ;) Hope you have a good time being near family and all my best for the deployment.

[@TheRonnieaj]

I had to stop and gasp when you said toddler. Like, girl, I’ve been following you since before you got married! How is your baby a TODDLER already?!? Big congrats to you all ❤

[@martinakosova8613]

We've been using paired for 106 days now and it's really great! Thank you for introducing us to it. 😊

[@JamieFleischer-jj3vs]

You should discuss Isagenix. It’s another MLM that’s going through it. I used to work at corporate and was let go 6 months after being hired because the whole company is a mess…gotta love it😂

[@HannahAlonzo]

Please "like" this comment so it gets pushed to the top and people see it! I can't remove my current pinned comment due to sponsorship rules. NOTE: I had to make a bit of a choppy edit at the 59 minute mark cutting out a 30 second section of the Monat Founder's Pool clip because KZbin dinged me for a copyright violation due to the music in the background of the clip. In classic KZbin fashion, they only dinged me AFTER the video was uploaded 😂 Rather than taking the whole video down and reuploading, I just trimmed out that section using KZbin Studio's crappy editing feature. That's why the clip ends abruptly and my next sentence "If you're confused..." is cut off. The piece that got cut was the Urdanetta family standing outside their mansion talking about how Monat is "on the road to be a 1 billion dollar company" and how they want you to "join the Monat family". If you want to see the full video, here's the link instagram.com/reel/C7xYPVxOnS8/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[@lizzyblitz07]

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[@rebeccah3715]

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[@Darinhaaa]

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[@JamesQMurphy]

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[@sarahlund875]

The grim reaper thumbnail 💀💀💀💀

[@HannahAlonzo]

I simply could not help myself 😂 the obituary was my idea, the grim reaper was AJ’s addition hahaha

[@rachelv.4136]

​@@HannahAlonzothe best partners match your enegery and then level it up

[@yesitsruby]

I RANNNN to the video because of the thumbnail 😂😂😂

[@TanyaElisabeth]

That literally made me LOL

[@Beach_flower]

I cackled so loud 😂

[@imapisces0308]

“For 10 years, we never knew what we got paid.” And we are the dummies for working a 9-5!😂😂😂😂

[@MissBeeeBeee]

If you don’t know how much you get paid during a whole decade, might there be a tiny, teensy weensy problem there??! 😂😂😂

[@kateemma22]

How do you even do your taxes without having an idea of what your yearly pay was?

[@sofiasofia-em]

@@kateemma22 they did know how much they were getting paid, they just didn't know the breakdown. Like, every month they were essentially receiving an arbitrary amount of money. All they knew was bigger downline = more money, but not how. Like, how much money do they make per sale, or per recruit, does antiquity affect their revenue, etc, etc, etc.

[@not_you_i_dont_even_know_you]

Right?? And then she claims, when talking about her new MLM, that she's a comp plan pro 😂😂😂

[@emilyau8023]

The women who went from Monat and then went to a tree company are so disgusting to me. They know what they're doing. Gross individuals.

[@SoCalJellybean]

Y’all, I’ve been watching this video without headphones, not realizing that my husband has been hearing the entire thing; after the Founder’s Pool business, he suddenly commented, “so basically, it’s throwing a hunk of meat towards the remaining hyenas, in the hope that they’ll get distracted and start fighting each other over it, and meanwhile the guides can safely sneak out of the safari park without being eaten alive!” 🤣🤣🤣

[@DS-qw1tp]

Genius. I feel like sending this to everyone I know in Monat 😂

[@MBXGill]

😂

[@angiegurl2007]

LMFAOOOO 😂😂😂😂😂😂 not the husband listening with a sneak attack comment 😂 I love it 😂

[@rohndabyias5673]

I'm cracking up 😂😂😂

[@rohndabyias5673]

I'm cracking up!😂😂😂 That was great!

[@Siyual]

Imagine being scammed by working for an MLM, coming to that realization, and then going to YET ANOTHER MLM

[@katherinekelly5380]

Well, Toni and Jay made $15m during their time at Monat so they aren’t sheep, they are Shepards - and they need their sheep to line up again to get sheared…again! 🐑

[@NotMykl]

Then claiming you don't look 40 when you do.

[@jenniferannis9445]

The cognitive dissonance between “we never knew what the compensation breakdown was” to “compensation plans are my specialty” is wild.

[@HannahAlonzo]

SO TRUE

[@peachdust]

Right!? I noticed that immediately. Dude just admitted that they never fully knew how they were being compensated. Then he stands there all quiet and nodding along while glammed up Toni talks about her new MLM and how she knows a good compensation plan when she sees one. 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

[@gigi6128]

Lol, crazy, they just spew so much shit, trying so hard to convince people of BS, that they can't even recognize how distrustful and contradictory they sound

[@amyaurion]

I literally had to pause and rewind to be sure I understood that right 😂

[@heatherrussell6271]

I noticed that too. Like what? You do not!

[@stubbs3023]

The fact that some of them are immediately into a new MLM is crazy lol

[@sbonelli]

That’s what I don’t understaaaaaaand 😂😂😂

[@amerikan_queen]

They don’t have job experience to do anything else. They don’t have a resume to go and apply to any other “job” besides an MLM. . .not even to sell cars. They could do real estate I guess but it’s not even a good time to do that.

[@Rando911]

In times of fear, we resort to our lowest level of training. They just don’t know anything else, unfortunately

[@highland42]

@@amerikan_queenThey definitely have marketing, social media management and sales skills

[@afraaomar4682]

I think its because they have massive downlines.. Those top earners know how to play the game.. They know that if they take the hundreds of people under them to a new company they are gonna rise in the ranks quickly

[@juliedavis7931]

It’s SO FRUSTRATING that they are calling out issues with Monat, but not MLMs. They just merrily move to the next MLM? So sad to be so close to realizing what the core issues are!

[@karenneill9109]

They’re top of the pyramid- they know how to play the game!

[@emilyau8023]

Sarah Hill is that mean girl in high school that turned your friends against you and then gaslit you saying it was you and it makes no sense for you to call yourself a victim. She's a bully. A bully who never grew up.

[@DimaRakesah]

It's very similar to religious people. They will be blind to problems in a particular church and only see them once it really impacts them, but then run to another church that is very similar. It's like they HAVE to have that controlling system and don't know what to do without it.

[@g00st62]

@karenneill9109 Yeah, trying to paint them as some kind of victim is insane. All of them "spoke up" after being terminated and straight up moved to the next scam, dragging their cult following with them. They 100% know what they are doing.

[@ipacarrollread]

@@DimaRakesah Jinger Duggar Vuolo is a great example of that. She left her parent’s religious nonsense and moved to her husband’s fundie religion. She is definitely ’Free Indeed’.

[@IndigoYouTube]

“Olive Tree People” sounds like a horror movie

[@erinwantenaar7206]

Hahahahaha the movie poster I'm imagining for this has me rolling 😭😂😂

[@neurocidesakiwi]

Olive Tree People Synopsis: A secluded village in the heart of a dense, ancient olive grove has a dark secret. For centuries, the villagers have worshipped a peculiar, twisted deity associated with the olive trees. But when a young woman, Anya, returns to the village after years away, she begins to uncover a horrifying truth. The olive trees, once symbols of life and sustenance, are now possessed by a malevolent force. As the trees begin to exhibit strange, unnatural behavior, the villagers become increasingly terrified and desperate. Anya, with the help of a local elder, must confront the evil that has taken root in their community before it's too late. The film explores themes of ancient rituals, pagan beliefs, and the corrupting power of fear. As the villagers descend into chaos, Anya must face her own personal demons and confront the terrifying truth about the Olive Tree People.

[@TrishaBMurray]

​@@neurocidesakiwi 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 damn this synopsis is written SO good id actually watch this. 😅 Bravo! Seriously. 😊

[@neurocidesakiwi]

@@TrishaBMurray Gemini AI, not me. Can't take credit for something.

[@roguetaco5487]

@@neurocidesakiwi ha! Honestly if this was a book, I'd read it ;)

[@mariamatmos4506]

Don’t make any mistake, the only reason they are talking bs about Monet now is because they are not earning money. Not because they care about women.

[@dOlli3cOutur3]

You sounds like a current Monet rep

[@alostkoi]

The thumbnail is such a piece of art lol

[@jamiemiesler322]

😂👍🏻

[@hillah4981]

I laughed out loud at work and had to turn it into a cough. 😂😂

[@karine-v]

👌🏻

[@SnakeKillsDumbledorf]

It's so good. I had to watch even though I subbed for the influencer stuff haha

[@SnakeKillsDumbledorf]

It's so good. I had to watch even though I subbed for the influencer stuff 😂

[@canttouchthis803]

Hearing these women talk about how no one was making any money and the company can just change the formulations without telling you and how dishonest and dismissive the people at the top are about your concerns and how you can be terminated out of seemingly nowhere... and then they hop into another MLM. You were so close! You almost saw how scammy MLMs are and how you contributed to the problem (and they did contribute to the problem, no matter how much they try to say "they," meaning their upline/CEO/R&D department, made the changes, "they" didn't tell you, "they" are the problem. The high earning reps are not victims, but perpetrators). The mental gymnastics it takes to profit for years off the scammy business model and then be all indignant only once you're terminated. Incredible.

[@crelgen1588]

I think a lot of these people understand very well how you earn money in an MLM, especially the MLM hoppers. They just don't care that it's at the expense of others.

[@brooke5258]

They're like "dealers." They like the fast stacks of money too much to make a clean break. They could be good at sales jobs with commissions, but they'll never work a 9-5.

[@elizamartin4263]

@@brooke5258which is so ironic because they'd probably ACTUALLY have more "time freedom" as successful salespeople in 9-5 jobs

[@justkiddin84]

These women know EXACTLY what they are doing.

[@thelonleyUchiha1]

@@crelgen1588yeah at this point their just hopping into more hoping this time their in quick enough

[@djs2182]

Targeting young women who value “all natural” products just to secretly switch the ingredients to include something that could potentially negatively effect their fertility is evil. I shouldn’t be surprised but wow.

[@isihosena635]

But hey, at least that's a silver lining in the abortion bans 🥰🥰 /s

[@evie7601]

and the all natural thing is bs too. like pick a struggle 😭

[@djs2182]

And it’s not even good shampoo, it ruins your scalp and hair 😫 I don’t understand why they don’t just make MLM products poor quality. They jump the shark and make them actively harmful instead? Just sell an over priced Suave and call it a day. Instead they burn your scalp, make you bald and make you infertile?? Geez

[@justkiddin84]

@@isihosena635 Freaking 💀💀 If folks don’t all vote blue, you will have to use Monat as birth control. That is what they are coming for next. Then you won’t be able to have a job.

[@ceciliabrown6341]

What’s wild is that compound wasn’t banned until 2022, so the “all natural” claim has been a lie all along.

[@paprikanika2145]

Why do people think plant-based ingredients means no allergies or no reactivity? Most of the things I have to avoid in beauty products are plant based. It's just so ignorant

[@sluggytube]

Oh my gosh same! I’m allergic to most things green and growing: grass, ragweed, trees, etc, So saying something is “plant-based” says to me “hmm this might make you break out in hives or an asthma attack.” Not a great way to make a sale!

[@Yosatorn.Asavapatr.Naptvik]

yes my mom allergic to tomatoes &carrots

[@Nightpain-CHM]

Poor scientific literacy.

[@tmsw22]

Omg the girls thinking that a share of the founders pool thing were actual SHARES in the company gave me terrible secondhand embarrassment 😭😂

[@Julianaao2601]

Same I’m cringing so hard, Gooooood please think a little I beg 🤣

[@SpaceDust392]

So I was jobless for a long time, and if it weren't for you I would have been tricked into working for an MLM. But now I have an awesome job and a boss that genuinely looks out for me! Thank you so much. ❤

[@wheredowegowhenwesleep]

So happy for you, internet stranger! ❤

[@TrttlyAwzum]

Same for me!!! Thank you Hannah 😊

[@ridinwithjake]

Same here! I almost got recruited by World Financial Group which is a finance MLM. Now I work for a very good bank. Have paid vacation, guaranteed paycheck every 2 weeks, health insurance and a 401k. And once I leave the bank at 5pm I don’t think about work until the next day or next week. Love it!

[@klaireelizabeth3499]

Congrats! Happy for you! This channel is the best ❤

[@joyfuljaj]

😊

[@plaguemaiden]

these people leaving monat just to join another MLM reminds me of 20 y/o me leaving a 30 year old dealer for a 31 year old unemployed skater. all the same problems!

[@nicolebaker-wagner5891]

😂😂😂

[@sinestesianestesia9079]

Omggg the accuracy 😢😢😢

[@jimin8006]

Why is this me lmao

[@hockeygrrlmuse]

LOL but you did know you needed to leave! Even if it takes a few times for a lesson to absorb, each time you learn it, you get that much closer :)

[@drexyspivey]

A flawless analogy. 😂

[@Bibibiceratops]

Angela Sumner heavily implies that Olive Tree products are why she looks so young at 40. But she's been selling Monat for 10 years. So which is it? Monat or Olive Tree? Or fill-in-the-blank mlm she's peddling at the moment 🙄

[@maymorning8504]

I had the same thought. Unless she had a dramatic age rewind in the past couple of months that testimonial is bananas 😂

[@emiliah2853]

She could have bee. selling tupperware and if she had needed to, she'd said that some plastic multi-dimensional fork with 17 different uses is the secret to looking younger 😂 Because we know it's not the products, it's not the company, it's doing and saying whatever gets them a sale or a new recruit

[@darbymichelle]

While clearly using a filter lol

[@sherridevries9144]

Plus 40 isn't even really that old. Tons of women still look great and have great skin at 40 🎉😂

[@a697ag]

She's only 40?

[@tarajh]

Angela going from being completely shocked & blindsided by her termination, to saying it was her decision to leave, then back to saying she was terminated, but "knew this was coming" in one video is just BONKERS. How can anyone watch this woman for more than 10 seconds and take her seriously? 😂

[@GramsAttic]

Amen! I can tell you for a FACT that Toni was NOT the very first rep to sign on....unless she was involved with this company before the pre-launch. According to our 'sign up' number, I was the 10th person to join, while my upline "Lisa" was actually first. Why did we leave right after the pre-launch? Because our little team was so badly bullied. Toni and her newly founded team would sneak into our "infomation" groups and steal our potential market partners and customers. They would spread rumors about us. A friend of mine was one of the 10 to earn a cruise to the Bahamas, right after the launch. When she came back, she was in tears and quit because Toni and her "team" were so cruel to her. There is another team leader that had a team separate from Toni's and they were extremely rude to her as well and im sure there were other little teams, just starting out, that they had a hand in destroying. I could say more on this subject, but I won't. I think you get what im saying about how she and her teammates went about getting their downline. That was the first MLM I had ever joined and had such a bad taste in my mouth from those toxic mean girls, that thank Goodness, I never went back. So....in my opinion, Toni deserves all she is facing right now. You don't treat people that way. Do I feel bad for "cut-throat" Toni? Oh, heck no! She doesn't care about anyone but herself ....well, except money too. Sorry, not sorry! Luckily, I had a real job and was able to retire from the federal government at age 55, where I receive a nice pension as well as being able to carry my medical insurance with me for the rest of my life. I'm not at risk of losing my home that is paid for, my car that is paid for or at risk of losing my income and having to start all over again. So please....DO NOT JOIN A MLM! You can fall as quickly as you rise. If you want to be your own boss and start a business? Do it yourself. There are federal grants that help minorities (women included) that you can apply for. Start yourself a legit business for yourself...not one where corporate and people above you take your hard earned money. I also want to say "thank you" for another wonderful and informative video! You're the best! ❤

[@gunnymaru2900]

It technically makes sense.

[@paigewaites6612]

It still baffles me they’re peddling the whole “be a business owner, be you’re own boss!” When people are getting fired left right and centre. As an actual business owner, I’m pretty sure I don’t need to worry about firing myself 🎉

[@NotMykl]

And as a real business owner you know what your compensation plan aka salary is instead of waiting ten years to start complaining.

[@catecodes]

Angela discussing the shady commission checks... "when someone at the top tells you to put your blinders on... they're doing that to protect their own income..." Also Angela, "come join my next MLM team." She was SO close... hopefully her next downline can play this back to her whenever she inevitably starts telling them to pay no attention to the "haters"...

[@larissabrglum3856]

Hearing her say that made me yell "AAUGH!" like Charlie Brown

[@catecodes]

@@larissabrglum3856 💯👆🏼!!!

[@elliotoliver8679]

Oh those dream stealers! 😅

[@Deangirl86]

There have been complaints about Monat for years (that these women ignored), but it wasn't until they were fired that they complained about it…

[@rebeccamueller8790]

Totally. They called people's hair falling out. "detox" LMFAO

[@verminter]

They are so brave. /s

[@angiem.9672]

Exactly!!!!

[@tarajh]

🎯 🎯 🎯

[@Maurelin22]

EXACTLY

[@livesouthernable]

This all comes back to the fact that working for an MLM is not owning your own company, despite the lies they tell newbies. You’re working for someone else. Nothing that happens in the company structure is anything you have control over. You have no say in the product formulations, the compensation structure, or even the stability of the company…because it’s not your company.

[@schrdngrskat3847]

Yeah, I just do not understand how they think that they are "starting their own business" and get mad at people who say that they aren't. Like...it's pretty obvious that they're working for a company??

[@AliceHoward-bh2be]

This was so interesting and the correlation between Monat and infertility issues was downright scary. Just messed up so many jumped to yet another MLM company. As usual your delivery was spot on. Love your content. Don’t ever stop. ❤️

[@Spi314]

Yeah the only reason they can claim it's their own company is bc high up people can create an LLC to collect their MLM earnings. But I'm pretty sure anyone can make an LLC.

[@christiesanchez4013]

If you can be FIRED from your business, you do NOT own it! Even the top salesperson can be fired for ANY reason (at-will employment). MLM reps are no different - they're just paid worse in 90%+ of cases.

[@Rpm-o1y]

I love how angela said “40 years old” as if she doesnt look 40. Not a dig at her looks, just to point out her new MlM doesnt work either

[@charliewright6273]

No literally. That's exactly what I thought. She looks 40. Which is not a bad thing. She looks great. It's just that that's what 40 looks like. If she was trying to say that she's an expert on skincare because she looks way younger than she is, that's delusional. Skincare doesn't have to make you look younger. I don't like the obsession with that.

[@michelleharper2940]

☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

[@MashaRistova]

Lmao I caught that too and thought the SAME exact thing

[@Klaudyacampos]

They lie through their teeth lol she doesn’t look bad. But she 100% looks like a 40+ year old who does her skin care. 😅 I don’t get it

[@NikkiRN-CLC]

​@@charliewright6273you said what I was thinking absolutely perfectly. She acted like she looks 19. She doesn't. She looks like a very attractive, 40 something year old woman. No shade at all, but she doesn't look under 40. She looks her age, a beautiful 40 something.

[@Croissantsss]

All of this is wild but it’s crazy to me that Toni’s husband recommended looking at anti-mlm pages and said they ask good questions and then STILL jumped to another mlm

[@mathsalot8099]

His wife jumped to another MLM, and he can't tell her no, or she may divorce him. At least that's the vibe I got.

[@christiesanchez4013]

It's his professional niche. He knows it's a rigged game, but (thanks to his wife, probably) he knows how to play it.

[@evrenseven]

31:53 "You don't work there anymore" wait I thought this was my own independent business that I owned and ran?? All of a sudden I work there?

[@tanyadrochner2105]

😂😂 omg good one, yes haha

[@PinkFinch-fi8ko]

The way I gasped in **plagiarism horror** when the MLM chick said “consider the source remember the motive” Those are Hannah’s words!!!

[@LaunchYourWellness]

RIGHT??????!!!!!!! We’re suing! lol

[@sassycatenthusiast]

Obviously the MLMers don’t watch HBomberguy 😂

[@melaninandaura9713]

That kind of stuff infuriates me! It’s so narcissistic! To steal the words right out of the mouth of someone who is advocating against people like YOU.

[@BedeSisters]

Same! Love the term “plagiarism horror”.

[@Maurelin22]

Sameeee 😂😂😂 she surely has seen hannah’s videos

[@gojiberry7201]

I worked at a financial institution for a couple of years. As part of our benefits, one day we learned all employees were given actual shares (as in stocks) in the company. I remember thinking, "Oh, that's cool." I didn't go around yelling, "OMG, THIS CHANGED MY LIFE, I'M SO BLESSED, PRAISE BE TO MY COMPANY!!" The crazy devotion they shout through a bullhorn is just bizarre (and of course, Monat's "shares" isn't even this).

[@Nightpain-CHM]

I only tell my Dad about my yearly bonus because he's trustworthy. If I tell my brother, he'll think he doesn't need to pay his share of the phone bill. I don't think discussing finances is bad and I think it should be less taboo. Buy my personal experience is certain family members hitting you up if they think you have some money.

[@mikeh5244]

I’m obsessed with Angela Sumner speaking the truth while starting out on a new MLM where she will do exactly what she’s criticizing 😂

[@mamajinside]

Monat was the only mlm compnay i have ever joined and attempted to actually sell for. I found you when deciding to do my own deep dive in 2022. You helped shift perspective that the only way to make money outside of the traditional 9 to 5 is to create something of my own. From one mama who works off mama hours to make my own small biz successful to you and yours- thank you! I appreciate you amd your wealth of research, humor and honesty while starting a new opportunity that is purely of my own.

[@Rfanq]

Me when a unsustainable business model starts to unsustain itself: 😵😵😵😵‍💫😵‍💫🤯🤯🤯

[@cassidyreid5059]

Monat ruined my mom’s hair years ago now so this video made us both very happy and very angry at the same time. Their formula has NOT been good since the beginning.

[@desireemclaughlin1455]

It’s hard for me to have any sympathy for these people who were high up in Monat. From their own words, they knew that there was massive problems behind the scenes. They knew people weren’t making money. They knew all the hype was just that - hype. But what did they do about it? Did they leave Monat on their own accord and become a whistleblower? Nope. They stayed outwardly silent, collecting a paycheck and recruiting more people until they were terminated. Angela says she had made the decision to quit, but who knows with that one. I would never take her word at face value. Hailey admitted that her checks had diminished which is why she went to OTP, but I’m sure she was still happy to receive the checks she did before her termination with no regard to the people on whose backs she was financially benefitting. And don’t even get me started on Toni. Am I glad to see the dumpster fire happening and all of these people coming out of the woodwork to blow everything up? Sure. But if anything, this makes me think less of them, especially when most of them have just moved on to other grifts, so they obviously haven’t learned their lesson.

[@vashti1616]

Thank you for saying this. I go agree that the system is at fault but......c'mon.

[@Brashleybear]

Yeah, I have absolutely no sympathy for them. No genuine remorse at the exploitative nature of the business model, since they just moved on to others. These people are such a huge part of the problem, even if they aren't the founders themselves. Such irony that they are so incensed at how they were treated but see no issues with how the business model screws so many people over while they make millions.

[@nataliekubus1041]

I agree I don't feel as much sympathy for any of them because I feel like they truly didn't care about these issues until it started to directly affect them. However, many say that being in an MLM is like being in an abusive relationship. Statistically, it takes 7 times for a victim to break free completely from their abuser so I believe it would be generally the same as trying to leave an MLM. So it's not surprising. 😑

[@mobabyhomeslice]

You'd be surprised how long a "death of a company" can feel "imminent" and yet...it hangs on for AGES!

[@emilyinnoire]

In the video where Toni is announcing their switch to Amare, her husband looks VERY uncomfortable. I feel like looking at that Reddit page opened his eyes and now he can never unsee that information.

[@allyrose6437]

Yeah! I gasped when he recommended people check out the r/antimlm subreddit!!! 😂😮 Seems like it's changed him, good

[@MajorArlene]

insane how Jay shouts out the Reddit Anti-MLM community and still hasn't seen the light as to how this business model is a problem. some of these folks are beyond help.

[@Mariemgt123]

Same can be said about anyone who holds a disproportionately large share of power or wealth. They're not going to call out a system that benefits them. They'll move from company to company and bleed their downline dry as it works for them.

[@isabellamorris7902]

It's a pipeline. People aren't necessarily gonna switch on a dime but there are multiple exMLM reps online who started out by getting curious about antiMLM stuff before realizing the whole business model was trash

[@mathsalot8099]

The way I saw it was his wife, Toni, runs the show. He just follows what she does. And even if he thinks MLMs are scams, he's not going to nay-say his wife... probably because she would "cut him out of her circle." If your husband doesn't support your "business opportunity," divorce him!

[@elisapierre-procope9177]

They see the light. At the end of the day, people will do what is best for their house financially, and that's MORE MONEY. ethical or not. These people can do nothing for the rest of their lives and be fine. They don't need to join another mlm.

[@christiesanchez4013]

He seems like a pretty nice, genuine guy who got into a business that is inherently rigged and unfair (perhaps because of his wife). Still, he made MILLIONS off his downline, most of whom barely made any money. I'm CERTAIN he has an eight-figure retirement account stashed away somewhere.

[@jamestrickington5525]

Why do Monat sales reps commonly have their hair pulled back so tightly against their scalps if they are selling hair care?… Shouldn’t they be styling and primping before selling me shampoo….

[@greenie2390]

It is either that or a hat. :) I guess cause their hair is sooooo beautiful it is distracting on Zoom.

[@Odontecete]

And did you notice how thin and receding their hairlines were? Speculation here but if your shilling for shampoo, wouldn't you want your hair to be on display and NOT what that shampoo *might* be doing to it?

[@xladycaosx]

I thought the same thing 😂 not throwing shade on other people’s hair per se cos some of us are just cursed with terrible hair (I am “us”😂) and when it’s genetics, there’s little you can do about it (and it can get worse with age even in women, high chances I’m gonna go bald with age😂). But I thought Monat was miraculous! How come they all have the same shitty hair I have with my non-MLM, cheaper shampoo?

[@asutter6642]

Probably because they’re balding

[@nataliekubus1041]

They're still detoxing 😂😂

[@carlypearl4892]

Monat made me lose my best friend. I didn't want to sign up and she who had already drank the cool aid dropped me so fast

[@thebookwitch895]

I'm sorry that happened to you 😢😢

[@Aug520]

That is so sad and I'm sorry you have experienced that. *sending you hugs🫂 * My wife and I almost got divorced over her involvement in MLMs. Her upline basically told her to divorce me if I cant support her "biz." We didn't and she now sees that MLMs are scams. It took 8 years, but she is out now and our marriage is thriving. I hope that your friend will get out and see that these MLM operate pretty much like a cult. And if you're wanting...for yall to rekindle your friendship.

[@humanname99]

hey just so you know, the victims of the jonestown massacre (the massacre you're referring to by saying "drank the kool-aid") didn't actually drink it because they wanted to. the vast majority were held down and injected with it, or forced to drink it at gunpoint. they were not gullible, they knew what was happening to them. they were murdered. you can do what you will with that information, I don't mean to sound confrontational, but I can say that when I learned that, the saying really made me feel sick.

[@carlypearl4892]

@@humanname99 okay.... You gonna tell that to everyone who says that my friend? Cuz I'm just one girl my dude

[@FreshFlamingo]

@@humanname99get a grip. Is that saying also ofFeNSIVe? Don’t go through life being this person.

[@frankiebee2980]

I would love a video going through all the OG MLM’s like Pampered Chef, Avon & Mary Kay, Cutco, Tupperware etc. And how they are still alive even today!!

[@lipstickzombie4981]

I won't be surprised if they are thriving because they are still strong in third world countries like my place. 😓

[@abbyduke7103]

I’d LOVE one on Mary Kay! They tried so hard to recruit college girls because they knew we were exhausted and broke.

[@melissas447]

Some of the OG companies (Tupperware, Avon) I believe started with better intentions. Basically they providing direct sales opportunities to women who (during that time period) didn’t have as many abilities to make money. And the products weren’t totally trash. The direct sales structure eventually led to the insidious multi level marketing structure, appealing to the same demographic. I could be wrong though lol.

[@dreal2093]

I don't know about the other ones but Avon has been around for almost 140 years. Their origins didn't start with MLMs.

[@pocahontas821]

I was a part of Team Momentum and met the Kimbros in person at a Monations event. I honestly believed they were two of the most genuine, caring, salt-of-the-earth people who were dedicated to help others through their faith and conviction. After I left (during the early stages of the pandemic in May 2020), I grieved the loss of that connection with them, but continued to follow their story. I saw their post and follow up video announcing their departure from Monat a few days ago and thought for sure they were leaving MLM for good and were on to truly better things. To hear that they joined another MLM company is a punch to the gut I wasn’t ready for. I truly thought they had realized that MLMs hurt way more people than they help, and their integrity was greater than that fat paycheck made off the backs of others. It’s as if I’m grieving the loss again, only now it’s even more complicated because they HAVE to know they are actually hurting people. It’s sad.

[@maymorning8504]

The way I GASPED when she said “consider the source, consider the motive.” Like watching a thriller and getting to the twist! 😂

[@LostStarzOfTheSky]

Me here like: has she been watching Hannah?

[@kellychin61]

@@LostStarzOfTheSkysame!

[@kateemma22]

Any minute now one of the huns are going to break character and in Hannah's voice lean towards the phone and aggressively whisper 'get out'.

[@AshBigs]

Timestamp?

[@rg8733]

​@@AshBigs34:48

[@jowiens32]

My niece has been selling this garbage for years. It has alienated her from several family members. She made really good money, she was one of the top, earners and traveled, and had all sorts of perks. It has definitely negatively impacted, not only my relationship with her, but my opinion of her values and morals. When you care more about making money than you do, your relationship with your family members,that’s a you problem

[@Rew123]

Maybe to her, money is more important than her relationship with you? Why don't you mind your own business.

[@jowiens32]

@@Rew123 Excuse me? My relationship with my niece is between her and I, and I-think it’s you who need to mind their own business. Wow you’re a grumpy person. I have a feeling your comment is a projection about a relationship(s) in your life. You don’t need to be trolling people on the internet you’ve never met. The world needs less of that.

[@kikiTHEalien]

The 1st lady was 100% correct in her assessment of the situation. The deadline to remove all cosmetic products containing Lilial was 01.03.2022 for the EU and 15.12.2022 for the UK, so her bottle bought in 2023 was 100% something taken "off the shelves" in these markets as opposed to an article which is not allowed to be produced, but still allowed to be sold until the already produced stock is sold out (which is usually the case with ingredients, which have very low risk, but still get banned, because the regulators err on the side of being overly cautious).

[@lizzyblitz07]

Wow. So the EU took this very seriously. Not just a ban, but a recall of all products including the ingredient. That context makes things even more concerning. Thanks for the info

[@AnitaCripps]

Hannah, it puts joy in my heart to see that 200,000 people have watched this. You are doing a great service to the world by spreading this news. And you do it really well.

[@cfhello67]

The only reason Angela is 'speaking out' is because she was terminated. If she hadnt been terminated she'd still be shilling. She never cared about peoples experiences before - its just so she can win them over and sell them the olive stuff. I see right through her

[@jamestrickington5525]

It’s very awkward when ppl state their age like it’s meant to shock you… 😅

[@karenneill9109]

🤣 Yeah. She looks 40 to me!

[@Username0467]

@@karenneill9109 Pretty but still 40. You can be gorgeous and look your age people!

[@MBXGill]

Definitely looks her age lol, yes

[@renatas.7861]

I was like, yepp, you look mid 40s... That's the worst product endorsement I've seen this year 😂

[@kst4878]

Yeah, she looks great and looks to be in her 40's. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive!

[@kyibobpeb]

The way these people jump from MLM to MLM 😒 Ma'am, you were so close to seeing the light.

[@lexyhartmann4396]

It’s just so sad. All the things the anti MLM community had said for years that these MLM huns have just ignored or refused to accept but now it’s coming to fruition and they’re finally realising the issues with the model. A part of me is like ‘duh, what did you expect?!’. Meanwhile how much money have they wasted, how many lives have they trashed, how many relationships have they ruined. The whole thing is just so sad. Admittedly slightly satisfying but mainly just sad.

[@loosilu]

ANd then they hop right to another MLM.

[@greytgreytx]

The description of being labeled "troublemakers," etc. reminds me of when I was basically asked to leave my church because they were trying to talk me out of leaving my emotionally abusive husband because Jesus, I guess. The fact that these organizations (MLMs, churches, cults... so much overlap in so many ways) get so defensive when people notice cracks is incredible. The thing is, most of the people here who were "asking questions" had genuine concerns that they probably would have worked with the company to address! They didn't want out; they wanted the company to follow through on their promises.

[@lindtothesayyy]

I’m sorry that happened in your church. I pray it didn’t take you away from the Lord! It’s never easy to go through an experience with people you feel should represent Jesus, but we are still sinful man. 🩷

[@jenluv]

I'm an hour and 19 minutes into this and the bomb that's dropped there is GOLD! That's what was meant earlier by "mafia style"! This was so well put together, Hannah. I'm so glad my subscribers pointed me your way!

[@angelofdusk13]

The second Hailey, the one who broke down the math on her commission, seems to have a good head for business on her shoulders. I hope she splits from MLMs soon and works for a company that appreciates her keen eye and no-nonsense approach to numbers.

[@drexyspivey]

I was thinking the same thing

[@alessandramia111]

Yikes flashbacks- I sold Monat at 19 after a friend roped me in, but shortly after, it made my hair fall out and scalp irritated. My team said the hair was "detoxing" and the irritation was normal. I backed out so quick and had to apologize to people for not knowing how many others had issues. Idk about other health concerns but I've tried many shampoos/conditioners, oils, hair dyes and nothing else has caused those problems except Monat. Never fell into an MLM after that

[@theopinionisthighqualityopinio]

This is a GREAT video! I'm an American woman who lives in Italy. Someone tried to recruit my eldest daughter in the US, into an MLM about 7/8 months ago. She said "No!" immediately and that's about the same time that your videos started popping up on my reccomended feed. We've both been subbed to you since then and love talking about your videos. Can't wait to talk about this one!! You've really done both a great job and an important service to anyone who's even considering joining one of these companies. A million thanks!! 💯💯💯💥

[@stephdcc788]

It’s all about the dosage of said chemical. It’s gross that people are making these accusations of a product “causing “ so many problems. But it’s also gross that the company wasn’t transparent.

[@linds113]

I'm just here binging older content as my way to show Hannah support! We're here for you Hannah!!

[@KatsMeow90]

These terminated girlies who violated the company's non-compete: Oh no, the consequences of my own actions!

[@paddyolten4031]

I appreciate you revealing the names of all these people because they aren’t good people from my point of view. They reveal all the bad stuffs in one MLM so that they can ‘scam’ more people in another MLM, that’s not better than any MLM☹️

[@maryeckel9682]

They're all public figures who put themselves out there.

[@RubyMadigan]

These people are coming so close to understanding why all MLMs suck but somehow they falter at the last hurdle and put it down to 'just Monat sucks'. Then they skip on over to their new MLM as if it's not exactly the same thing

[@stephaniethesoprano]

I think they do actually understand, they don't actually care though. They can keep making money if they bring their giant downlines and their customers with them, and exposing Monat is a great way to make sure their downlines and customers follow them. They do all of this because they understand it - they just don't care about anything or anyone except for the money and themselves. They're selfish, greedy, and hypocritical.

[@marciab7152]

@@stephaniethesopranoyeah, they don’t care as long as they make money

[@jenniferromano5152]

Sarah’s tan line around her hair 🤣😂🤣😂😭😭😭 and her use of your tagline!!!! Consider the source, remember the motive!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@kristinmay6985]

"We cannot populate the earth fast enough for mlm girlies to maintain their same level of earning year after year." 🔥🔥🔥

[@onthemetro410]

It is STUNNING how many of these reps run head first into the point, and then jump right over it... like all of them point out flaws in the MLM business model one even says to look at the anti-MLM reddit, (i swear the woman who said "consider the source, consider the motive" must have watched at least a few of your videos before) and then just go out and look for the next MLM that's going to take advantage of them and their audience. i can't imagine the mental gymnastics they have to do to think that all of this is okay...

[@roseacapper-starr4795]

I think for many it's just habit and what they know... Kinda like how I hate working hospo but it's where all my work experience is so it's just easiest to get hospo jobs when I need one.

[@audette151]

This is the BEST thumbnail ever 😂 I'm French and a few days ago I learned that a former classmate has engaged with Monat in addition to her activity in natural medicine. She does a lot of Instagram posts about haircare. Monat is not really known in France, I didn’t even know they had representatives here. I’m afraid people around her will fall into this scam even if it’s just to buy.

[@jrjamon9686]

1. The thumbnail is GOLD. 2. Former Monat hun. I have an extremely sensitive scalp. I have so many issues finding a shampoo that works for me. Monat worked for me which is why I signed up. I used it and swore by it for years. I started to get away from MLMs, but wasn’t sure what to do about my shampoo. But they did change the formula. I’m sure they did!! Because I started having reactions to the shampoo I had been using for years. It was awful. When I compared my new bottle with my old bottle (you know, since I had backstock 🤦🏼‍♀️), when they changed the bottles, they had changed ingredients. It took a long time for others to start noticing the difference.

[@toxkillfraex]

I have rotten scalp too that reacts to something or other easily and gets terribly itchy with thick crusts. I have some prescription options, but I only use those when it gets out of hand. Otherwise I use Kevin Murphy's angel wash or balancing wash. I got it recommended by my hairdresser. However, the company sent samples with my orders a few times and I will get a reaction to some of their other shampoos like I do with default store bought stuff. Nowadays my main trigger is going to bed with wet hair ^^; Figured I'd give a recommend in case you can access it wherever you are at and it happens to work for you too. If not an option or you already have alternatives then all the best. =)

[@katieanderson61]

Don’t ever apologize for long videos Hannah, we love all your info-I love seeing an hour long video from Hannah!! ❤

[@passivelyobsessive5460]

Sending love and support during this deployment but have to say I’m almost tearing up at you mentioning your husband’s highlight is receiving your toddler’s drawings in the care packages. That is so sweet I can’t….

[@zenmaster9195]

This trend of playing the victim, taking no accountability for your own actions, and blaming everyone else for their F ups is really getting old. Gee...I wonder where they learn this crap? I can think of one right off the top of my head.

[@annie_xo]

I can definitely think of one too.

[@DeadkeyWonders]

The irony of the ex-Huns tearing down others claiming ‘they don’t care about you, they only care about their checks’. Like the ex partners are any better and never behaved the same way.

[@kateemma22]

'Oh, okay, I see. You think this has nothing to do with you.' - Miranda Priestley.

[@megant1008]

YAY!!!! I just want to yell YOU DID IT HANNAH!!!! I just found your channel 3 weeks ago but I have fully been getting caught up and thus one was goooooood. The thumbnail, the thoroughness, the excitement and hope to a normal future "post Monat".

[@ReareaGirl]

These comments about the products are giving me flashbacks to the Deva Curl sandal. Now I am curious if anyone compared the ingredients from Monat to Deva Curl before the reformulation. These stories are ALMOST identical.

[@meaghannemack82]

A coworker game me a deva curl leave in because she used to be a hair dresser and while she had never used it, she had heard good things about it. It made my scalp itch. Never had that problem with literally any other hair product. Literally stopped using it immediately. Since then I've seen that it wasn't a unique experience 😮

[@greenhouse326]

Don't EVER "pour your heart and soul" into a JOB. MLMs are the worst, but ANY job. They don't care about you. Pour your heart and soul into those you love. Into your community. Into the hobbies that feed your spirit. NEVER YOUR JOB.

[@w0rmteeth]

it has to be a red flag that if you have to spend this much time on the internet "defending" your job, something's wrong

[@jackdawjohnson7436]

I completely agree. Like, if you were a butcher, your job might be a bit controversial, especially online, but you don’t need to defend it. You get paid the same amount whether or not Stacy thinks your practices are ethical. You just… go to work. Then you go home, get online, do whatever you want and it doesn’t matter what you do as a job because you’re at home. So long as you aren’t committing crimes or being hateful, what does it matter? That’s what makes the MLM claim that they’re freeing up people’s time so bizarre.

[@goodradoodles1549]

The thumbnail makes me want a series with Hannah always being the grim reaper to come retrieve the mlms

[@RubyMadigan]

You can get terminated from an MLM? 😮 But... I thought it was their own business? Surely you can't get fired from YOUR business? 😂

[@lushestdaisies]

Hannah, for such a lengthy video, you presented this in such an organized and easy-to-follow way. Bravo on editing and curating.

[@HowToBeABookworm]

You saved me from the Kirby reps!! They came to my door this afternoon, and as soon as I saw the box I (politely) told them to leave!

[@sashagemini7623]

My long time MONAT friend just announced yesterday that she's taking a step back from the company. I'm not surprised I'm seeing this video

[@theswordidtruth]

That thumbnail is giving me LIFE- it made my whole morning! Keep it up, love to see your channel soaking up the algorithm's secret sauce.

[@galactics]

i remember hayley from top fails #46! it is really wild to watch former reps who insulted and yelled at people in their company's name later go on to tell us how bad the company is when they quit.

[@karantha333]

The more of these stories I hear, the more these MLM's sound so similar to Scientology. All the tactics, gaslighting and abuse are the same. It's like all these scams/cults work with the same to-do playlist depending on the situation.

[@robinnn777]

I am sometimes hesitant to click on a video about something I feel like I’ve already watched so much on, because I’ve been watching all Chelsea’s videos about this stuff as it happens. However I do click and I am always reminded how you bring such a different lense and POV and have a great way of laying things out and storytelling. Great video!

[@reneeharper84]

I know exactly what you mean - but it's always nice to get multiple povs on things and they both come at things differently

[@thebookwitch895]

This is THE perfect soundtrack to get ready for my birthday party!! Thank you Hannah and MONAT for the bday present! 😂😂😂

[@HannahAlonzo]

Happy birthday!! 💕

[@thebookwitch895]

@@HannahAlonzo thank you!! ❤️❤️

[@tuschi8039]

Happy Birthday 🎉😊

[@celarts5752]

Happ birf!

[@thebookwitch895]

@@tuschi8039 thank you!

[@seanhaugh4232]

How the hell did they think that shot of the Monat family (59:50 or so) not clearly signal "we want to wring every last cent out of you until we fold" to the reps. Just pure naked greed

[@ninjinsei5679]

The thumbnail. I’m cracking up!

[@likesototallyhillary]

It's so great!!!

[@kealymeese3201]

Years ago (around 2017), I had an acquaintance HEAVILY pushing me to use Monat! Saying it would fix my frizzy hair and make it healthy. For years, I got the "Hey hun!" messages. Thankfully, I had another friend who was a hair dresser and told me not to use it and how damaging it was. So glad I stayed away!

Oh my, you got me HOOKED. Couldn’t do anything until I finished the video. So thorough, so well explained. Amazing work, Hannah! You outdid yourself here.

[@cats14600]

Sold over $400 of product and only made like $50. I think that is the most shocking thing to me. I knew the comp plans were trash but dang

[@FreshFlamingo]

I mean that’s a +10% commission on a product you didn’t create, manufacture, market, have no risk in….. you just make free social media posts and direct people where to get it. How much do you think that’s worth?

[@LostStarzOfTheSky]

​@@FreshFlamingoI mean, you did market it, you are the marketing plan

[@cats14600]

@@LostStarzOfTheSky @FreshFlamingo there is just a lot of work that goes into marketing it. I have friends that make 3-4 posts a day plus lives on multiple platforms, and fees for vendor fairs. If I’m going to that extent I would rather try and get a marketing job with a guaranteed income where at least if I get let go I can file for unemployment in the meantime. Some of these people are really talented at marketing and could have a chance at really excelling in that field. I do hope the best for all of them if the company does change. 🤍

[@kaclama]

@@FreshFlamingo Depends on how many hours the person put in to sell that amount. That could easily wind up as less than minimum wage, with no benefits or insurance like at a regular job.

[@garak55]

If a job can't pay minimum wage while working full time, it's not adding anything of value anyway and you shouldn't waste your time on it.

[@lorimartino6496]

She was fired for taking her line like others and then posts a quiz for her new MLM. She also had already joined yet another MLM so she can continue to make money off the backs of people. The company was going down they knew and THEN had a come to Jesus moment

[@slimandthickwcpodcast596]

The Founder’s Pool videos was crazy because they were almost like cloned videos. The setting, both girls in cars, both talking about “it” girl thing, the figures, and the order of how they spoke about it was just creepy. Chances something is a scam or it’s sketchy is if people are giving you the same description and explanation word for word. That’s true crime rule 101 lol

[@gabrielle.strauss]

For real!! I was watching that part when I came across this comment and it was basically identical! Someone made a script for some people thats the only explanation

[@valaxmalum]

I always wondered what happens to the downline when someone of rank leaves an MLM. The fact that all those people (and profit) just rolled right up to the founders of Monat sure doesn't instill a sense of job security in someone who's one termination away from a few million extra dollars.

[@CarboneCat]

The craziest part of this is that they denounce what is going on within Monat and yet, they join another MLM. As if something similar won’t happen at their new MLM. 🙄

[@allisonpl]

Exactly!! They don't see it and it is crazy!

[@TheKatChatStories]

They will say the same about new mlm after some time 😂

[@Samantha360]

30:00 - sara is purposely missing the point. It isnt that Halley broke the contract and monat fired her that she's upset about (at least thats how I'm interpreting her) its that she confided in sarah, trusted her, and she went to monat and told on her "friend".

[@johanaantonova740]

40 hour prep is crazy 🫡. But also crazy good for us! You delivered everything so well, as always, I love your content 💛 (The thumbnail got me laughing for good two minutes 😂)

[@jodib5570]

This was so interesting to watch!! Thanks for hanging out with me tonight in your video Hannah!

[@TheYazmanian]

36:42 I thought she was going to say "clearly there is animosity and fighting between the dogs" Because of how those dogs were going crazy in the background LOL

[@crizmeow8394]

It makes me sad everyone high up had no problem with the shady things until it affected them, like yeah, it’s great we’re getting the info but they aren’t doing it from their goodness but because they can’t exploit the system anymore

[@mizzle8]

Not defending monat in any way, but I am extremely skeptical of Angela Sumner’s allegations. There is so much “toxic chemical” fearmongering out there and the people in her downline are already more likely to believe in that stuff because that’s who she targets. And these people are saying they’ve experienced issues for years so it’s clearly not due to any recent ingredient changes. If the ingredients are actually at fault, Angela’s promoted these products for years- she’s only talking about it now because it suits her. She doesn’t actually care about these women.

[@costeris35]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@peachdust]

Right?! Did she tell her customers before the scandal that they must be using the products wrong?

[@tallgrasslanestitches6635]

Me too. I don’t know enough about chemistry and biology to be 100% sure, but I’d be very surprised if one chemical (that many people with functioning reproductive systems are also exposed to) can cause incompetent cervix, severe birth defects, secondary infertility, PCOS, etc.

[@jennifergeorge7280]

Endocrine disrupters for sure can impact fertility. I don’t know to what degree their shampoo impacted their pregnancies, but many conventional products and foods are impacting us a lot more than we realize. I went to a specialized doctor who deals with infertility, dealing with the root causes and one of the things she has all of her patients do it eliminate all those endocrine disrupting chemicals.

[@MJWeathers]

Love the thumbnail, so excited for this video!! 🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼

[@katherinewittman3885]

Hannah, love your content!! But I wanted to say thanks so much for introducing us to Paired! My husband is Canadian military and is currently deployed, and it’s been a fantastic experience - we made sure to use your link! Appreciate all that you do ❤

[@janiceandrea700]

One thing about it Hannah, idc how long or short your videos are, IM WATCHING ALL THE WAY THROUGH!!!!!! ❤️