Hanni's Visa Expiration? PROTEST TRUCKS! Rosé Album Rating, K-Pop Chit-Chat & Some Gaming??

[@GOODfourYOU7088]

Ppl are allowed to have differing opinions. You can understand an albums vision and still not like it. This is why artist who come from K-pop ,like rose will never be taken seriously. If this type of K-pop fans have towards one critic then yeah… Western artists are constantly critiqued (I’d even say harsher). If you want to make music and participate in the global music industry you need to understand that comes with ppl having high expectations. When you are “competing” with the likes of sza and Taylor swift (who both do speak on love,relationships and heartache ) there is going to be a higher standard.(hope that makes sense )

[@LeeraLightwood]

Critics give Taylor Swift great reviews not because her muic is good tho

[@maymayyyy]

​@@LeeraLightwood taylor's an amazing lyricist and story teller and her songs have great production. ALSO, her The Tortured Poets Department album had a 6.6 score by pitchfork. rose's album is just extremely generic and underwhelming (like TTPD was for me)

[@JessieBanana]

@@LeeraLightwoodPeople criticize Taylor left and right. What are you talking about?

[@JessieBanana]

Obviously I like KPop or I wouldn’t be here, but the echo chamber that has taken teen and young adult fan culture to the toxic non-critical, bizarrely attached level it has reached almost makes me wish it didn’t exist. Rose is trying to be a mainstream artist, of course that comes with the accolades and the criticism and criticism isn’t inherently bad.

[@KpopOpinionator]

​@@LeeraLightwoodHer albums and songs are genuinely good though.

[@JRiley813]

Ador didn't drop the info about her visa, it was an anonymous tip, so they responded to the situation. She can't just get another visa from another agency. The visa She needs is specific to working in the entertainment industry in Korea. You have to have an exclusive contract with an agency to apply for it. So by law, if them claiming they aren't w/Ador was how it worked to break a contract, then Hanni would have had to get a contract with a new agency and the application in by Dec. 13th, and if she didn't then she would be there illegally. Yes, there are many different visas, but to be able to be approved there is specific criteria that you have to meet. ESPECIALLY when it comes to working in another country. And for her, currently Ador holds that visa soooooooo.

[@YTpsychMyths2]

Thank you! Idk why there was no research done at all for this part. Like it’s a short segment but the misinformation is rampant so it matters. Sometimes this channel disappoints me bc they have so much sway & is capable of good research but just throws out a juicy headline & says “let me know in the comments.” Anyway yes I agree with what you said, those are the real reasons this became a topic of interest.

[@sushi0085]

If it was anonymous…how would you know it was or wasn’t someone at Ador?

[@spartankingdom879]

​@@sushi0085 bc her e6 visa needs to be renewed every year as it only valid for a year. every foreign idol needs one so its a no brainer that the ones in nj will need to renew too. its just a matter of when

[@spartankingdom879]

stopp i scrolled down further and someone said ador had to make the statement cuz allegedly someone reported hanni for illegal immigration 😭✋. the kpop stans are NOT okay if this is true. its like the 3nd time someone reported an idol when they probably dunno jack sh*t. but either way ador has to help hanni renew her visa anyway cuz their contract is still valid and if they didn't then it might be an actual contract violation on ador's part cuz they would be hindering hannis ability to work.

[@sushi0085]

@@spartankingdom879 still anonymous. Could be anyone. Including someone in Ador that wanted to make it a news scoop. Or some weird dude with plenty of time and hate to want to do this lol.

[@tsukasa6364]

I think pitchfork's constructive criticism of Rosè's album is pretty spot on. With all her passion, i think this is something she needs to hear to grow into the artist she wants to be.

[@AUGHHHHHBBG]

Hanni situation puts Newjeans in a pickle because now she might have to rely on the unknown status of their contract to be saved BUT that would cause her and Newjeans to admit they are still in contract OR ador can argue “well didnt y’all say y’all aren’t under us?” And hanni would have to find another way to be safe. I will say though reporting her as an illegal immigrant as a petty anti revenge thing is nasty. This isn’t K-pop drama, it’s someone life.

[@GonBon1]

Didn’t you encourage hate for hanni and accused her of being a liar under another video? STHU

[@marchant1948]

I guess the shaman overlooked this issue lol

[@AUGHHHHHBBG]

@@GonBon1 why are you in love with me 😭 always under my comments Also I told you before I’m a tokki. I wouldn’t encourage hate on any of the girls I just don’t agree with some of their actions I also never said she is a liar since we do not know

[@toomuchpassion2361]

You're just a hater.

[@brianlittrell797]

​@@AUGHHHHHBBG Tokki?

[@bloobie07]

Wait so now bunnies are saying why was this issue publicized even though this all started from an anonymous tip, but it was ok for nj to publicize the entire contract termination mess and have a youtube live AND a conference and release multiple statements bashing hybe? Was it ok for hanni to go to an audit and publicly bully and humiliate her elder and not use honorifics in a formal setting and laughing at her crying, publicly? Was it ok for hanni to publicly call a manager a bully and constantly talk about him and bring so much unnecessary drama and spotlight on him and that petty situation over and over again? Ador is so nice, way way better than any of big 3 or even other sub labels under hybe ever were, they are kind enough to help her not get kicked out, also once again proving that they are clearly lying about the status of their contract yet bunnies are so ungrateful Nothing new just nj and bunnies once again proving they are liars and a bunch of bratty and ungrateful hypocrites who cant even recognize and be thankful when ador or anyone else is being nice to them lol

[@bqanto]

Very true.

[@limpset81]

bunnies always on their Delulu land....

[@TheRealityofFake]

I actually thought the Pitchfork rating was fair and I don't always agree with their ratings. A 5.5 is a middle of the road rating, basically saying it was meh. Not outstanding but not trash. Imo, Rose offered a generic bland pop sound. Apt was great but none of the other songs stood out for me. But at the end of the day, do the ratings really matter? If you connect with an album or song, feel free to listen to it. You shouldn't care what some publication says. I just think everyone is allowed their opinion, and I do get annoyed with the kpop mentality that nothing can be criticized. Stans are willing to defend their groups to the end and take any type of criticism as hate. We should be allowed to say we don't like something, or hell, even be allowed to say something is just meh, without getting a bunch of hate. Also, fans will need to recognize that as kpop gets bigger, they are going to see more mainstream publications rating albums. And these albums are going to be rated in comparison/on the same scale as other genres. They aren't going to handle kpop albums with kids gloves because kpop is from a different culture.

[@MCFCJake]

The most true comment here. Nobody should care about the opinion of others on the music they like listening to. Never change your own music taste due to others. If you like something, then just listen to it and stop caring about what others say on it

[@it.comes.around]

maybe an orbit can weigh in here, because from what i remember, visa concerns being one of the things discussed as loona filled to terminate their contracts, because of vivi’s status. some idols have cancelled or not extended their contracts, but from what i can tell, most either have a new company to handle their work visas or work primarily outside of korea. so basically what im seeing is hanni will need to find a company willing to risk being sued by ador to apply for the visa for her. or ador says they are still under contract and renew for her and have another point in their favor when arguing about the validity of the contract, if hanni doesn’t do something to make it so they can’t apply for her, which risks her being deported. these options all seem like so much fun 🙃

[@kittycatsy]

Thanks for the insight. Love your comments.

[@mariasol1545]

I feel like none of the new jeans girls thought of the consequences of defending MHJ this hard

[@purpleskiesforever]

Also, the existing employer (Ador) has to sign off on transferring the visa sponsorship. They won't.

[@bqanto]

Ador has already announced that is extending Hanni's artist visa. Clear evidence that the girl is still under contract with Ador.

[@cynthiawilson5602]

Hanni is facing Visa issues now, so people are saying this is why Hybe was quiet. Either Ador extends the contract so Hanni's visa doesn't expired, proving New Jeans lied and the “contract not terminated”, or another company extends it, and then Ador will sue, and that company pays the fee. New Jeans really wanted independence.

[@NoName-px2co]

No, you misunderstood. There are 5 years left on New Jeans contract. The problem here is E6 Visa has only 1 year limit. So, it has to be renewed every year. She is in catch 22 situation. Obtaining recommendation from ADOR n signing the application would signify she recognises the contract still valid. Sign with other agency means she would personally be in breach of contract. It is hilarious the head honcho among the girls is in this kind of dilemma.

[@cynthiawilson5602]

@ Sorry, that's literally what I said. Maybe I didn't word it correctly, but I meant if Ador renews the Visa or if another company renews the Visa.

[@axeltheking4157]

@@NoName-px2cothat’s literally exactly what they said

[@cynthiawilson5602]

@@axeltheking4157 I don't think this person read it properly. Next time, I'll make sure it's clearer when commenting.

[@kangablue4502]

According to Adore, they are still under contract with them. So why wouldn’t they renew Hanni’s visa? They’re obligated to. Otherwise they are conceding there is no longer a valid contract. And they certainly are not doing that.

[@cynthiawilson5602]

I really don't get comments asking why the Visa issue was made public. Why was New Jeans announcing they terminated their contract only through the media rather than legally? Now New Jeans fans explain to me why that situation is different. The double standards are showing. New Jeans has made so many things public, but Hybe and Ador are the only bad guys apparently.

[@AUGHHHHHBBG]

@cynthiawilson5602 I understand what you’re saying but you’re comparing Newjeans not properly terminating verse a fan reporting hanni. Hybe and ador didn’t report her so this comparison don’t make sense

[@cynthiawilson5602]

@ Not a Hybe stan but people could argue Hybe is doing the same thing New Jeans did. It's not legally in place, but they bought it to the media. New Jeans has made so many things public, but Hybe and Ador are the only one that should be criticized?

[@scanspeak00]

Because the way you win these cases is through the court of public opinion.

[@cynthiawilson5602]

@@scanspeak00 Everything could have been handled off the internet, but New Jean's public statements are making it seem like they are getting away with things other idols couldn't. On X/Twitter, New Jeans fans really think the contract has been terminated just because the group said so. When someone says legally they are not, they bring up how Hybe and Ador are doing nothing. So now they are doing something fans are upset?

[@revehoneyluv3940]

Stanning a company is crazyyy

[@ridita5221]

I'm sure, that Ador will take care for Hanni's Visa as they stated, but Hanni looks more entitled if she doesn't refuse their help.

[@Odin99687]

Si acepta la ayuda, admite que el contrato es válido.

[@mariasol1545]

if she refuses the help she is an illgeal immigrant, and if she accepts it then she is admitting that they never actually broke the contract lmao This is so funny to me they really thought 5 twenty year olds could outsmart a business as big as ador

[@jennifercallister1972]

@@mariasol1545 They thought their shaman had a law degree too

[@Lesyexuxdefifi]

​@jennifercallister1972 im sorry but this TOOK ME OUT Ma'am you have talent in comedics for sure!!

[@KpopAICovers-e1w]

@@mariasol15453 20 yr olds an 18 and 19 year old and a minor

[@cloudyatlas3836]

I was honestly so disappointed when I listened to Rosie's album :/ it was just the same song over and over. I really expected something more, especially with such a great kick off that APT was 💔

[@sushidashi6152]

Bunnies saying why was this publicised have to know that there’s an article released about this calling Hanni an illegal immigrant. Of course Ador needed to respond to it. As far as they’re concerned are concerned, Hanni is still under their management. Also, it has to be an E-6 visa, all foreign Kpop idols have to have that visa not just any visa. There’s a Korean KZbin channel called HYBE BOY that goes through all the Korean media in English to keep you informed on what’s actually going on rather than reading misinformation.

[@faeriegraver]

They haven't even officially left Ador/HYBE yet. There's a lawsuit. This is a nothing burger.

[@toomuchpassion2361]

They have in fact left ador. November 29th was when they terminated the contract.

[@emmaefuaacheampong6641]

​@@toomuchpassion2361youre an adult. Right? Be realistic , thats ow you help people. Not by being delusional with them

[@themiri7694]

@@toomuchpassion2361 lets wait until the court decides only then it is official

[@toomuchpassion2361]

@@themiri7694 What courts? Ador is the only ones who have filed a case. NJs terminated their contracts already. Advertisers and other agencies are moving like they're an independent group. Most importantly NJs are moving like an independent group. Whatever Ador has to say is between Ador and the courts now. NJs terminated their contract as of November 29, 2024.

[@alwenawillis8813]

⁠@@toomuchpassion2361No legally they have not terminated it, saying you have does not make it legal. Their list of grievances they stated are the reason for termination, none are valid legally in court which means that they have little chance of winning, therefore they will still be contracted with Ador. Meantime either Hanni accepts Ador’s help in attaining her visa which basically bounds her to Ador, or rejects it and gets deported! If she accepts Ador’s help it means she violates the conditions of the visa if she works independently and can till get deported. I am afraid it’s a case of ‘Oh what a tangled web you weave when first you practice to deceive’.

[@lilhonni]

6:57 girlllll you should not care so much about what these teeny boppers have to say about YOUR opinion. music is subjective and if y'all are too slow to realize that maybe you should stay offline. this is kpop were talking about, the most manufactured business there is lol.

[@sunnybear178]

I was actually wondering about Hanni's work visa. I remembered from Ploopy's Rania video where a member had to like fly back and forth at certain times because the company couldn't/wouldn't cover her visa fee (which she paid for btw). Now that Hanni isn't under ADOR/HYBE, how does she expect to renew without spending a bunch of money? Because if she can't pay it, they can actually deport her right?

[@alwenawillis8813]

Please read some of the other posts re the visa they will clarify it for you!

[@cranburrey]

@@alwenawillis8813 Can you please provide the posts you mentioned?

[@Starmy-w8r]

@@cranburreyHybe boy

[@Literally_dangeleeen]

I mean they are still doing brand deals I don't doubt that hanni can pay for it herself

[@alwenawillis8813]

@@Literally_dangeleeen It’s not a case whether she can pay for it or not, an artist must have an exclusive contract with a legitimate entertainment company to get one. Currently she is still on her Ador visa until the renewal. Some people are saying as she has terminated her contract then she is an illegal immigrant, but Ador states they are preparing the paperwork for the renewal as the contract is still valid. If she refuses to sign for the Ador visa, then she has to find another way of getting one. She cannot sign with another agency as the case re contract validity is ongoing so no one can sign her or the others. There is a way to get around it but it takes time and a lot of money and in the meantime she may have to leave South Korea until it is sorted or get a visitors visa that means she cannot work. If she accepts the extension of her current visa to Ador from a legal perspective she is advising the authorities that she is still contracted to Ador. Also according to the legalities of the visa she cannot work for anyone else. So it’s very complicated. Her only hope is that they predicted it and set things in motion a couple of months ago, but considering the already tampering accusations that is also dicey. It will be interesting to see how things work out.

[@tonyjung3967]

The visa question is an interesting legal development. As it’s a catch 22 scenario, if Ador doesn’t renew it, then legally it could be stated that they acknowledge that the contract was terminated. Something tells me the legal team for JeanZ must be fully aware of this situation and seeing what Ador/hybe does. It looks like some chess playing is going on.

[@bbwalk100]

Ador, has already file for renewal of Hanni, visa.

[@jennifercallister1972]

I have a question, if their contract is still valid ,even so can ador choose to not renew her visa?

[@mariasol1545]

if NJ rejects the visa she will de deported and if she accepts it, she's admitting the contract is valid

[@poparker3622]

Here the things about the vise issue Hanni basically have two choices renew the vise with Ador or get deported and yea I hear “But the contract is terminated so another company could help her” not really because Ador filed clarity about the contract between them and NewJeans/Jeanz and that’s going to take awhile and no companies want to touch that due to legal issues and another one “why is so public” ok if NewJeans/Jeanz and MHJ is so open about the company and contract issues to public why can’t Hanni vise issue be public too

[@LeeraLightwood]

They way you sound so confident 💀"she has two options" 🤡🤡🤡 god help these self made lawyers

[@poparker3622]

@ when did I say I’m a lawyer??

[@xohiktzaguadalupeavendanoe3843]

They legaly still under ADORE, like it or not.

[@scanspeak00]

What law school did you go to? Ask for a refund.

[@kindra787]

@@scanspeak00lmaooo

[@jointjutsukonan3074]

​​​@@scanspeak00 and which did you go to? Bc the fact is they are still under ador, theres no precedent where an idol just says naw im good then boom, the contract is terminated. Think about all the idols who had to endure for so long then go through the sk courts to have them terminate their contract. Or pay out, or come to a mutual agreement which that hasnt happened w them. Having a person/manager under a different company be rude to you, doesnt equal contract termination no matter what they say. Or else sooo many previous idols wouldnt have endured what they did while under contract. Its not simple, and they havent paid out or went through courts to have it terminated, since its a legal contract thats the only way out. Which equals they are still legally under ador. Sure, it may not stay that way but for now its seriously not a question.

[@helenasouza9196]

@@jointjutsukonan3074 "There's no precedent" precedence is not an egg that magically appears and can be referenced by a court. There has to be a first case that'll create the precedence. Maybe NJ will be this case. But overall, anyone that says "oh there's no such thing as just saying they are not in ADOR anymore and that's it" is way too stupid to understand basic common sense, because at this point... If you don't get what is happening and is still thinking like that, if you don't think there's a powerful legal team behind NJ's girls telling them exactly what to do and what to say... I don't know what to tell you, other than ask: how are you alive as a functional human being? Because you are that dumb.

[@Alice-gr6ps]

@@helenasouza9196I’m sure the same lawyers as MHJ. But many lawyers came out to say there is no evidence to terminate the contract but we shall see. To call someone Dumb when you don’t have a law degree or an expert in Korean business contracts is a bit hypocritical. If MHJ herself had a strong case she wouldn’t have given up the fight for CEO and used the girls to get her position back. Again this will play out in court.

[@kkelly4369]

I truly don’t care who wins in this drama anymore. I just want it over.

[@husnainrehmani8300]

This is my ranking of the album rosie ❤️ 1) too bad for us & toxic till the end 2) stay a little longer & 3am 3) two years & not the same 4) vampirehollie & number one girl 5) gameboy & drinks or coffee 6) call it the end 7) dance all night & APT Please note* this whole freakin album is full of gems 💎 & my favorites ❤️ but I am a sucker for vocals! so here you go.

[@thebadseeds]

Pitchfork is a music zine for people who like music for music, they won't care for visuals, concepts, videoclips or performance. Which can be argued is a limited perspective on k-pop. However, they have all the right to write whatever they want and kpop stans need to stop their fascist policing of people's opinions and calling them hate if those opinions are negative. Why are we even asking if people CAN or are ALLOWED to have opinions? Obviously, not all kpop stans are like that, but the ones that are are loud and suffer no backlash. It's really interesting to see my two worlds collide. I can't wait for kpop stans to find RYM lmao

[@parkpark6976]

But the band that he follows on IG is BTS. What do you have me think?

[@gdeywyuojgdw]

​@@parkpark6976 Nothing to do with BTS. BTS's albums aren't the highest rated kpop albums by Pitchfork.

[@pokerface3747]

Girl I am loving how your FINALLY getting bold and SPEAKING 👏 YOUR 👏 OPINION 👏 despite talking about kpop news and how Knets are always sooo SHOCKED with anything. (Example) That idol took a breath and so did that other idol at the same time simultaneously so they must be dating. Keep it up girl, we WESTERN adults are your true audience VS. those million 10 yr old knet children who comment on your videos during their recess time from school.

[@Y_na7]

13:29 engenes sent over around 4 support trucks and the anti truck got removed, with the person having to pay a fine too lmao

[@AEChronicler]

Remember, music is subjective and everyone is allowed to have an opinion with what they choose to listen to. Expect disagreements and critique but don't let anyone make you think that your taste in music should conform to theirs. It's just like food. If you like it, eat it. If you don't, then eat something else. It's that simple.

[@maarshiexcryxx]

So NJ now face the possibilities of: disbanding, blacklist and member departure? Thats interesting

[@eleanorhughes597]

5.5 is above average! I think it's a good rating for Rosé's album, and I enjoyed the songs.

[@nirvana9536]

Rosé had a metacritc score of 77 before whatever you call that pitchfork garbage they are the only critic site to give her a negative review the lowest was Rolling Stone which still gave her positive ratings and a 3.5 everything else has been rave reviews of 4 stars out of 5. 'Even with the support of a major label, a star-studded committee of songwriters and producers, and Rosé’s eight years of experience in BLACKPINK, rosie offers nothing revealing or exciting' that's just one quote from her article. The critic has only reviewed 3 albums in her entire career (counting rosie so she only did 2 before and one was a negative review for Blackpink's Born Pink) she gave a negative review to Born Pink 'The K-pop quartet’s highly anticipated second album leans into an image of authority that’s undercut by familiar ideas and stale musical concepts.'. If you search her name you'll find also she's written an article on BTS for other sites. So we have a middle aged women who writes about BTS and has a negative review to Blackpink and a scathing review to 'rosie' and that's all she's written. she's written one other review in her entire career. Doesn't seem legit. She has not reviewed a single album for any site in the last year, she did one album in 2023, and then another hit piece on Blackpink in 2022. So you tell me sound legit? She went in to write a hit piece she wanted to trash the album she had not one good thing to say about it and she doesn't even do this regularly she came out just to do it for Rosé. In the end we have a BTS fan who has written two negatiew reviews for Blackpinnk related albums and that's pretty much all she's ever reviewed, she's not a critic she's a petty triggered kpop stan.

[@jeramahia123]

Same. I'd say, apart from a few songs, I'd say it wasn't bad but wasn't as great as I was hoping.

[@-Desire]

​@@jeramahia123 I agree, I enjoyed some songs but don't see myself going back to the album as a whole

[@alvi_omi]

Deserve at Least 7 No skip album You can relate with Rosé's lyrics Her vocal always 💯

[@maymayyyy]

​@@alvi_omi nah

[@SFBL1]

Speaking of not liking albums, I didn't think that was me until I listened to Aespa. Their title tracks are great, but their b-sides are a totally different color and doesn't mesh with the title AT ALL. I hate it.

[@AEChronicler]

As a fan, I have to agree. Whoever is making decisions about all their albums' cohesiveness, or lack thereof, needs a shoe thrown at them. I could forgive My World, but Drama was such a loss of an album. Literally, half of the songs from Armageddon should've been part of Drama or Drama a single and then added to the Armageddon album. To each their own, I guess.

[@Biirrrrrrrrr]

I really don’t get why the whole VISA thing was made public in the first place. There are many different types of visa’s outside of just work ones and there are companies (not kpop ones) that offer help with visa issues to anyone that needs it.

[@GonBon1]

They made it public to cover up hybes chart manipulation text messages that got leaked. They threw hanni under the bus to save their own asses.

[@vitoriamachadodeoliveira3b722]

This was made public because someone went to the police and reported Hanni as an illegal immigrant. And that's when Ador came out and revealed that she is not illegal because the visa WILL expire in the beginning of 2025. Yes, there are many types of visas, but if you want to work there you HAVE TO HAVE some type of work visa, that's like that for all countries, but for some reason in Korea they have to be very specific about the type? So from everything I have seen in her case she can only apply for the work visa related to entertainment if she wants to keep working in Korea as a Kpop idol. So yeah, she can apply for any other visa, and yes, she can get help from a lot of other companies to get a tourist visa for example, if she wanted to, but ir would be ILLEGAL for her to work if she doesn't have this visa.

[@Anonymous-c2o8e]

В Корее очень строгая миграционная политика. По учебной визе можно работать только 6-20 часов в неделю, 20 часов в неделю только тем у кого есть topik 5,6급. Учитывая то что Ханни вставляет английские слова и не может говорить свободно у неё примерно 3-4급. Регистрация на январский topik уже закончилась, результаты будут в конце февраля. Так что учебная виза скорее всего не подойдёт. Самый лучший способ это выйти замуж за корейца. Но даже тут нужно предоставить переписки в какаотоке, вацапе за большой срок, а так же пройти интервью, где будут задавать каверзные вопросы. Так же вам нужно просить разрешение у университета, миграционной службы на осуществление деятельности. Агентства, которые предоставляют услуги по визам в большинстве случаев разводят людей на деньги. Большинство виз не разрешают работать. Поэтому учебная и брачная визы самые лучшие, если вы хотите работать в Корее. При смене визы иногда требуется выехать из страны и снова заехать, а работать можно начать только спустя 6 месяцев. Для Ханни рабочая виза является единственной подходящей. Оформление визы займёт примерно 2-3 месяца, если это какая-то другая компания. Но я всё же думаю, что ADOR продлит визу

[@Anonymous-c2o8e]

Если вы работаете нелегально и вообще находитесь с просроченной визой вас депортируют из Кореи на 5 лет

[@TheDOPPOO]

​@@vitoriamachadodeoliveira3b722 his question is why it revealed to the public, it's between them and police/immigration.

[@MOARMYForyou]

😂😂😂 mhj, nj and their shamaman be like: "never thought about this situation... how about we start another live press-" 😂😂😂

[@Paris-on-yt]

For E-6 renewal, apparently they have to get endorsement from previous company even if they got a new agency

[@oneandonlymoth]

Pitchfork is famously a hipster outlet. This is not fucking surprising

[@crowzet0]

Snowflake fandom getting mad over a criticism, this is why I hate K-pop fans

[@MCFCJake]

This is why I hate kpop fans. They can never accept any sort of criticism for their idols and will hate other idols for the same reason. I myself like Rosé's new album a lot but constructive criticism is always welcome in a competitive industry like music.

[@KpopOpinionator]

​@@MCFCJakethe critisism can help her since this is her first album.

[@jdj10078]

Rose"s songs are great !!

[@Omgyoucanchangeyourhandle]

I think the album rating is fair, it showcases her talent and great potential, but it very much sounds like someones first album that they wrote by themselves. She accomplished her goal to share her music and her feelings, and that's good enough. Beyond that there's nothing really special about the lyricism or production, i couldn't see it objectively ranking over a 7, while I personally put it at a 6.

[@jeramahia123]

I agree. The songs felt mostly generic and didn't really show off her vocal talents as much, apart from Stay a Little Longer. Otherwise, it's just another breakup album.

[@VideosForYou90]

Agree!

[@bloobie07]

3:51 other companies are not even gonna look at them let along pay for and prepare her cisa for her lol Bunnies and nj are judt delusional

[@bqanto]

Ador is extending Hanni's artist visa. Clear evidence that the girl is still under contract with Ador.

[@703elee]

it's almost as if these girls didn't think this through......and in re to making this "public". LOL, it's not like it was some big secret she wasn't korean and that work visas are only granted to through registered companies, it's literally THE LAW. If they say they broke their contract it's pretty natural to ask that question next

[@Reneewilliams-o6e]

Rose tried to appeal to the west and it tanked

[@jeramahia123]

Im the biggest Rosè fan! She got me into kpop! I think she has the best voice in the music industry! But i have to agree with this review. It wasn't deep or revealing. It feels like Rosé bases her entire identity around her relationships. Im sure a lot of young girls obsessed with romance will love it, but as a classical thinker who has only had healthy relationships, it doesn’t jell with me. When i hear sings like this, it makes me think that the artist doesn’t actually know what love is, and they're confusing it with attachment and infatuation. I was hoping to know more about Rosé as an individual. This just makes me think she's one of those girls who watches too many romcoms, Disney Princess movies, and reality dating shows, and listens to too much Taylor Swift - which, in my experience, is usually a recipe for someone doomed to never find love and spend their life swinging from one toxic relationship to another. Which is kinda sad to think about.

[@Shxxskai]

It could be! I think she said in an interview about how her friends tell her that she's such a Carrie (from satc) and Carrie only goes back to the toxic relationships with big. That being said, I also think that the review was accurate, it's has like 4 good tracks, and that's about it, and I love a good heartbreak album,( and rosé ofc) but this one just wasn't it.

[@jeramahia123]

@Shxxskai Agreed. Adele is an example of great breakup songs. Because Adele sounds like a grown woman talking about her breakups in a mature, adult way.

[@Shxxskai]

@jeramahia123 that was something I noticed too, the album sounds like it was written by a teenager or maybe early 20's, and it was not only written by rosé but a bunch of other people as well (and they ain't teenagers) so is kinda weird, so I think they just did it purposely to target that demographic or they just let it pass because is what rosé wanted, who knows really.

[@parkpark6976]

People have different love stories. She's just saying love in her corner, Bro.If you're her fan, you should know that the number one girl group member is always the center of attention. Maybe it's toxic and can't be deepened because of Kpop culture regarding dating. You should understand.I mean the toxicity in their love might be because they have to hide it from fans who can't accept it.

[@jeramahia123]

@@parkpark6976 that's not love, bro. I know love, and what she's singing about ain't love. It's attachment and infatuation. Real love is something a lot of people reject because it's not as crazy or exciting or as "hot" as they hoped or expected.

[@anyuan3040]

How didn't bigbang reuniting for 2024 MAMA didn't make it to one of the best 2024 moments lol

[@alejandroaguilar9038]

KARMA HAS COME FOR NEW JEANS AND I LOVE IT !!!

[@Mal.victory]

Lol keep dreaming

[@jk2000jk]

Don't understand the point in rejoicing over the young girls being put in debt no matter how poor the choices they made were

[@baka9015]

people have too much time to trash talk others and give opinions to just escape from their own trash life

[@brandonm39]

I think it’s fine to have different opinions on albums I will say that I sometimes don’t like half the songs on some albums except for 2 so honestly it’s their own personal opinion we have that right of freedom to have different views so you can’t get mad over someone having a different opinion lol if you do than your a young one who needs to be schooled lol.

[@kpopoholic_4623]

I would hope that the team helping New Jeans or MHJ would of sorted out her visa issues but again another thing to just prove that the girls have no idea what theyre doing. The adults in their lives are failing them. Their legal team (if they have any) is not offering good advice. If Ador helps renew her visa thats just another ammo in their pocket to prove the contract is still valid. Otherwise, I don't think it would be too difficult for Hanni to apply for another work visa on her own but this is really something that should of been sorted out in the first place....

[@ngel222]

how do you know?

[@kpopoholic_4623]

@ngel222 its obviously to anyone with an unbiased view point that none of their claims are valid for contract termination and instead the things theyre doing are only gonna lead to them getting sued for breaking the contract instead. Theyre still being led around by MHJ as pawns to get back at Hybe because she has nothing to loose, but New Jeans could loose everything

[@wayneseow5594]

Hanni's team can also make the same argument if Ador doesn't help sort out her visa that it's a recognition of contract termination. It's probably in her favour to sort out her own visa.

[@scanspeak00]

They have the best lawyers in Sth Korea. What are your qualifications?

[@kpopoholic_4623]

@@scanspeak00 literally so many Korean lawyers have commented on this case saying that no lawyer would recommend the things theyre doing 😭 they didnt have any lawyers present at their emergency press conference and im doubting if they are even consulting lawyers at all because no lawyer would recommend the things theyve been doing. They're basically handing it over to Ador to sue them for damages.

[@jonuisfe5684]

Love Rosés whole album ❤

[@sseyongss]

no way we forgot about that person who shat so bad it stunk up the whole stadium at that one award show in the beginning of 2024 omg

[@OpulentPomegranate]

That was my introduction to K-pop I shit you not. It was on my fyp and I went down the rabbit hole, came back out with a lightstick 😭

[@souleylove]

I will be sat for the Han So Hee video, whenever you get to it! I can't wait!!

[@dotcom3015]

The meme nayeon was creating was from a dance the night away encore

[@danjeffers]

Adorr would have to give permission to transfer the existing E-6 to another company.

[@roseoznz]

I remember Vivi from loona was one of the last to leave BBC and it was speculated that Hyunjin stayed back with her in solidarity until they could work out a solution to Vivi’s visa issue, but not sure what’s happening now that they’ve left the other company as Vivi is still in Korea!

[@brianlittrell797]

I love how two beautiful Australians are featured in this video. 😄

[@BigMamasMama]

So...Hanni is still a part of Ador leaglly or she would be deported already? her 15 days since the press confrence are already over. She can't get help from another company because of the lawsuit.

[@ctcstan1406]

Angelina you look incredible today!!! ❤️ Love the hairstyle

[@xalexaxanax]

Rosé album outdated? it's the 90s-2000s influences, if someone made retro music would you say it's outdated? you can not like it however calling it outdated means they didn't understand the album's vision.

[@kimsehyeon3606]

No one takes pitchfork reviews seriously outside k-pop, don’t worry. They legit rated ice spice’s album higher than Taylor swift and Billie Eilish’s recent albums

[@kimsehyeon3606]

At 10:45 u can clearly see the reason why their ratings don’t matter, cause most of these albums are huge hits like born to die and etc

[@xalexaxanax]

@@kimsehyeon3606 LOL Ice Spice that's crazyyyy

[@MCFCJake]

​@@kimsehyeon3606Ice spice?? Wtf man the world is gone😭😭😂😂😂

[@mychaoticneutralace4617]

@@kimsehyeon3606 i agree with you on the ice spice thing because wtf is even that, it's so damn stupid, but ngl i agree with the rating of rosie, if we exclude apt cultural meme power backed up with bruno mars rosie would have never gone mainstream like that, i'm a blink since 2016 and i love chaeyoung but her album was just cute if i rated it it would have been a 6 at most, with most of the points going to APT and chaeyoung's voice, the lyrics and production were very bland and i know blackpink was never known for deep lyricism or inovation but rosie was sold to us for 2 months in advance as a deeply personal album and i'm pretty sure the marketing was way too strong and gave way too high expectations for what it was, it really was just old taylor swift revisited, and i love taylor swift but she got almost 20y of experience and you can feel the difference in the lyrics

[@mariamhesrey115]

I love the album and listen to it from start to finish but there is something lacking I can’t put my finger on it , APT seem out of place I wish album has more pop on it , it was k-pop shocking “still in my bed “ it not something you will hear everyday it’s like 2005 era TS and love it I am excited to hear more from her , HANNI visa make sense when you think about njs doing activities for ADOR after they announced that unilateral contract termination they are buying time to resolve this I am never gonna underestimated this girls

[@nananane.listens]

a 5.5/10 is average though? at least she was mentioned in pitchfork like i wish they did every album tbh. rosie was cute

[@nirvana9536]

Rosé had a metacritc score of 77 before whatever you call that pitchfork garbage they are the only critic site to give her a negative review the lowest was Rolling Stone which still gave her positive ratings and a 3.5 everything else has been rave reviews of 4 stars out of 5. 'Even with the support of a major label, a star-studded committee of songwriters and producers, and Rosé’s eight years of experience in BLACKPINK, rosie offers nothing revealing or exciting' that's just one quote from her article. The critic has only reviewed 3 albums in her entire career (counting rosie so she only did 2 before and one was a negative review for Blackpink's Born Pink) she gave a negative review to Born Pink 'The K-pop quartet’s highly anticipated second album leans into an image of authority that’s undercut by familiar ideas and stale musical concepts.'. If you search her name you'll find also she's written an article on BTS for other sites. So we have a middle aged women who writes about BTS and has a negative review to Blackpink and a scathing review to 'rosie' and that's all she's written. she's written one other review in her entire career. Doesn't seem legit. She has not reviewed a single album for any site in the last year, she did one album in 2023, and then another hit piece on Blackpink in 2022. So you tell me sound legit? She went in to write a hit piece she wanted to trash the album she had not one good thing to say about it and she doesn't even do this regularly she came out just to do it for Rosé. In the end we have a BTS fan who has written two negatiew reviews for Blackpinnk related albums and that's pretty much all she's ever reviewed, she's not a critic she's a petty triggered kpop stan.

[@Rooney87]

You are right Angelina,Viva from Loona had a visa with legal issues and stayed. Look I think MHJ is as guilty as much as most here but stuff like this I don't like. Knowing when her visa ends is private info and don't get me started on the immigrant stuff.

[@emmaefuaacheampong6641]

I think reporters usually have these informatin already but with a company backing, they think twice before airing these issues out. But nj is currently in a dispute so im guessing whatever wrong happens, they won't think twice before airing them now

[@purpleskiesforever]

Someone turned her in by calculating the 15 days you're allowed to stay after leaving a company under an E6. She left 11/29 and 15 days later was 12/13 and that's when someone filed the complaint. It wasn't private info they used, but common sense. However, I don't agree with someone filing a complaint to the authorities. That's just wrong imo.

[@emmaefuaacheampong6641]

@@purpleskiesforever I get that but usually this news would've been suppressed before it gained traction or it wouldn't have mattered at all

[@purpleskiesforever]

@emmaefuaacheampong6641 Why would it be suppressed? It's news, just like any other and people HAVE been wondering about this since 11/29. It's not a secret that you only have two weeks to get a new E6, once you stop working in Korea. It's actually a major issue that many foreign teachers complain about in Korea. If they're terminated, they have two weeks to get out of the country, so they put up with a lot of abuse from administrators in order to stay.

[@emmaefuaacheampong6641]

@purpleskiesforever companies usually suppress this type of news that could be seen as mismanagement by the company. Theres no benefit to be gained from it. Especially for a group as popular as nj

[@alexisflowers5069]

I listened to the album, take yourself out the K-pop sphere. That's why kpop gets the cult label it does, Pitchfork aint even the A list music standard but they're definitely allowed have an opinion and they didnt say anything heinous or derogatory lol, bottom line if rosie wants to have global impact she WILL have to come with something else because the album might paint her uniquely AGAINST THE KPOP scene but NOT at all in terms of the global one AT ALL.

[@scanspeak00]

I would presume that a renewal of Hanni's visa would require Hanni's signature which I'm sure Hanni is not about to give to ADOR. Therefore ADOR is lying about "currently processing the application" and Hanni has made other plans.

[@cinnamaricat]

kep1er renewing their contracts should've made the list honestly they're the first non permanent group by mnet to renew their contracts i still wish all 9 members could've renewed but 7 out of 9 is still good maybe one day another group from an mnet survival show just like them will have all members renew bc kep1er showed us it's actually possible

[@scanspeak00]

As far as Rose's album rating goes I tend to agree (I like up-beat songs not downers) and subscribe to the great Danielle's philosophy: "I'm proud, it's almost half".

[@Lina12896]

Shocking fact: you are allowed to not like songs or albums from your ult and Favorit Kpop group. It doesnt make you any less of a fan. My ult group is ASTRO and I love all their songs but I'm not the biggest fan of certain solo songs of certian members. Its just that their vibe is not matching with what I prefer. As long as your critzism is well worded and not just pure hate, everyone is allow to say that they dont like a song or album and why.

[@MechaKiyama]

Rosie is a good album. I don't even listen to that genre like that but Rose's lyricism is awesome to me. It draws me in and makes me feel for her and her situation. It's Honestly very Taylor Swift sound wise, but it feels so personal and close to her that. It low key feels like a k pop concept album between the lyrics and the "beef" between Bruno and Evan. I like it and i honestly don't usually like albums like this at all (this coming from a heavy hip hop fan) it's Honestly like 2 steps away from a concept album.

[@mychaoticneutralace4617]

i didn't bother to post my opinion about this album before because i don't really care about my fellow blinks ganging up on me i have other things to do but i pretty much agreed about what pitchfork said about Rosie. loved APT but all the other songs are pretty generics and if APT wasn't such a meme song with funny cultural meaning and didn't have Bruno Mars on it i'm pretty sure this album would have been pretty damn invisible to mainstream western media and we wouldn't have had all those things like hot ones and vogue 12 looks and BBC performance, love chaeyoung but with all peace and love the album wasn't so damn good that the west would have been interested in it without APT jokes on everyone, maybe pitchfork wouldn't have bothered with a rating at this point

[@AnjanaLimbu-z1b]

Rosie album is great ✨💫🫶👑

[@Alice-gr6ps]

MHJ most likely promised the girls the Shaman will handle it all.

[@alvi_omi]

Omg Min hee Jin is Herself a witch

[@elajuel]

my fiance watches these with me now and he’s slowly catching on to k-pop groups 😭

[@kimsehyeon3606]

Girl… outside k-pop, no one takes pitchfork or their mediocre reviews seriously anymore, especially after they rated Ice Spice’s album higher than Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish’s recent albums. Therefore, my point is that pitchfork ratings clearly don’t define hits, but Lana Del Rey perhaps is the only exception i can think of where they actually rated most her albums fairly and are hits (except born to die’s ratings)

[@GOODfourYOU7088]

But it’s also ok to have different opinions

[@kimsehyeon3606]

@ ofc

[@MCFCJake]

​@@GOODfourYOU7088True but rating ice spice that highly is so funny😂😂😂😂Kind of makes you look r4tarded ngl😭😭😂😂

[@yeol174]

23:32 “WHO MADE THIS!??👇”

[@nananane.listens]

ppl who didnt know hanni was vietnamese was funny af like her last name isnt pham and there was reports of the first vietnamese idol ever

[@burgereaterboy]

not the army law students in the comments 😭

[@Rubylolo13212]

11:30 omg I totally get you Angelina 😂 I also barely listen to albums and it takes me forever to actually like something hahaha there’s a lot of K-pop music and comebacks that I didn’t like this year tbh but I will not give my opinion on it cuz idc.

[@bqanto]

Hanni's visa expired on December 13 and she has until December 28 to renew her visa or leave the Country. The complaint was filed on the basis that Hanni, having ideally terminated her contract at midnight on November 29, no longer has the right to remain in the Country.

[@carolawasberg6271]

Hey Angelina this asian enterteinment and culture gave out Hanni's diffrent options that she can do but she needs to think of where she put her name on becarse of the legal thing that is ongoing. Adore has them on still working contract when the court haven't given there opinion and verdict on that so she actualy can't sign her name on any other contract when there ain't any paper on that Adore and NJ have parted ways. So if they sign there name on another label they are up for a jucy ride in court and the biggest mistake even if it would be there parents that fixt it. But I read that they is now out too to fix a visa for to have a label but might be late out when these things can take up to 6 month. We can just waite and see on what paper she put her name on...either way 😂😂 seems she forgot about this, so this is gonna be fun to watch.

[@Lovver420]

Pitchfork is a bunch of music snobs, which I can understand. Like you said, Rose’s new album maybe a revolutionary in terms of the message that reveals so much of her personal life which isn’t a thing in k-pop. However the music and creativity sides doesn’t seem to hold up or offering anything new outside typical pop music. In the past, groups like BLACKPINK would release new songs one at a time, so they could make each song a banger. However, the releasing multiple songs in an album format at once can be disadvantaged where they can show their weak points. Surely, APT is of course catchy and brings something different from her style, but the rest of the songs are pop ballads in the same vein of what Taylor Swift had done hundreds of times before. But all of this is just my personal opinion and it's not to say that Rose isn't a good singer because surely, she's a very talented person.

[@mychaoticneutralace4617]

the problem too is that what is revolutionary in rosie is only revolutionary if you look at it from a kpop perspective, but i'm pretty sure rosie was intended to be a mainstream album and got judged as one, where all she talk about was talked about by everyone else a long time before her and isn't a outrageous thing to do in the west. so when you stop looking at it as a kpop album and just a normal one the lyrics and productions become quite bland

[@bunkooluvr]

As far as im aware han sohee is involved with : yg, top, wonho, b.i and now seunghan 😭

[@saylalisalovemelalisalovem3334]

im a blink i will give the album a 7.5 out of 10. the album was pretty good in terms of quality but sometimes, the songs dont just vibe. number one girl was the best song i listen this year.

[@jdj10078]

2 of Rosie's songs are on billboard top 100

[@scanspeak00]

I hope her visa is in order.

[@AnjanaLimbu-z1b]

Rose is great 🫶✨

[@alvi_omi]

Rosé's album deserve higher rating

[@Majtz7]

The jungwon and winter thing js sounds so forced like don’t these people have a life?

[@Simply_wonniestar]

I thought this was rosé’s second album not debut

[@wes2300]

I love The Entrance™️ on The Island™️!

[@NimBelle]

WAIT SINCE WHEN DID SAN HAVE A BRITISH ACCENT WHEN SPEAKING ENGLISH?!?!? ded

[@MariaLamp]

These people are not in their right mind for sending protest trucks for jungwon. That's unbelievable.

[@tripicus]

Ador putting out word that Hanni's visa is in "danger" proves, to me anyway, that they are not exactly a safe and nurturing company. Even though they're undoubtedly very frustrated and angry, it's not good optics to me that they'd say anything remotely punitive at this point. In fact, they're talking out both sides of their mouth, saying NJ's contract can't be unilaterally ended but then warning of something that can't come true (visa issues) because NJ and Ador are contractually bound. Sure, behind the scenes, they're probably having contingency plans in case they lose their one and only asset (as well as looking at solutions to improve this situation, including reconciliation), but they also do this kind of bleep. Yes, they can make life hell for NJ and cancel them effectively, and there are hundreds of idol groups debuting each year, but a NJ is one of those one in a hundred phenomena who made/makes them tons of money in such a short time. Good luck to them if all this implodes and NJ can't exist anymore. They all better look for another job because they are not doing a good job now (swallowing their distaste, and I know about Koreans and their pride) and try to get their money-making product back into the fold. HYBE meanwhile is likely banking on BTS, but what if a few BTS members come out in support of NJ? Unlikely to come out strongly in support of the little guy against their own corp, but what if? Then the shit show will grow exponentially.

[@Literally_dangeleeen]

Ador didn't put that out tho , some random article did

[@observer5427]

Well..... There can be only that much safety and nurturing as a profit oriented business (as Hanni called them) They aren't a kindergarten after all! Especially when the supposed professionals are being perpetually complaining, back-stabbing unprofessionals.

[@tripicus]

@@Literally_dangeleeen Oh, in that case, my mistake. I guess officially they said the contract is valid and therefore they'll file the necessary papers. There is a lot of talent in k-pop, much of it in the way of light pop so I'm mostly interested in k-pop as a global cultural phenomena. So interesting. NJ has been hugely successful and the two sides should reconcile. MHJ is fine because she has plenty of big and small companies who want her talent and relentless desire, but both Ador (who will disappear without a product) and NJ (will be canceled by Korean system and society) have a lot a lot to lose. I suppose you can blame the girls' immaturity, as well as MHJ's huge influence but both MHJ and HYBE seem overbearing (HYBE in its obsession to cancel by omission) and MHJ in her overbearing desire to shape and control NJ as her own creation, which to a large extent it is.

[@Literally_dangeleeen]

@@tripicus thing is yes they are talented but the Korean public is trying to blacklist them , they went to receiving alot of support to people being skeptical of them and if what they are saying are true , and they don't like them still associated themselves with mhj ( which i don't support either , mhj has great work and even worked with some of my favorite girl groups but she is creepy with her behavior with new jeans and has a weirdly close relationship with them , and I'm with in the same age range as new jeans , I'm the same age as hanni) , so with them being on the verge of being blacklisted I doubt that anyone would want to work with them , their only choice is to make their own music , also their supposedly new name newjeanz , they still can't use because its copyright in fragment to newjeans , the name they don't own , im surprised ador didn't say anything about that , also with them still being with ador , I'm surprised vogue and mhj doesn't have a court case behind their name since ador already threatened to go to court with whoever decided to work with them

[@sidneybutler8007]

Yeah the pitchfork article feels like different cultural norms and expectations.

[@jeramahia123]

I don't think that's fair. I mean, most of Rosie's album is very western. And APT, which is the only one that could be classified as Kpop, was well recipient by Pitchfork. So I don't think we can make the argument of cultural differences.

[@sidneybutler8007]

@ the cultural difference im mentioning is not about the genre itself its about the culture of how much idols share about certain topics. Regardless of what genre of music Rose as a person is still influenced by korean culture and korean idol standards. I think she branches out in some aspects sure. But to understand how something could seem vague for western audiences but bold for kpop audiences it comes down to the cultural norms of idol personal lives not music genre.

[@sidneybutler8007]

Because rose still works in Korea, she still keeps a public idol image in Korea and has been media trained based in Korea even if she makes western style music those cultural norms won’t disappear over night. So for someone used to kpop culture around dating, romance etc. and being open about those experiences it’s bold. For western audiences who live in a culture where that’s not taboo it’s generic. And that isn’t about genre. I don’t think the critique is wrong either because at the end of the day if it feels generic to the listener then like that’s how they perceive it and it’s not wrong. But I do think the difference in norms plays a role as to *why* it seemed generic to the reviewer.

[@ioutsoldurfavs]

13:08 that’s acc crazy 😭😭💀

[@Tejonesss]

Is it just me or does her laugh sound different like I can hear her gasping at the end of a chuckle and it sounds kinda strained, maybe she’s getting over a cold

[@thisislee]

Angelina pls respond. Where did you get the squishy you always have???

[@moluccensis]

the brand is nee doh! i got them at mastermind toys personally but i do have them linked in the description 🥰

[@thisislee]

@ thank you so much! It looks so satisfying and would help w me anxiety 🫤

[@mtbpilipinas4923]

if HYPE or ADore doesn't do anything about Hanni's visa then you know their intent from the get-go...happy now haters???? bwaaaahahaha

[@kaleymills23]

Not the mingyu trudeau mix up lol

[@Mister.vampire]

What about daniell ? SHE IS ALSO NOT KOREAN RIGHT ? WHAT ABOUT HER VISA ?

[@Maxiro03]

I am pretty sure she has korean nationality

[@ioutsoldurfavs]

She’s half Korean, I’m pretty sure she has korean citizenship

[@Mister.vampire]

@@ioutsoldurfavs i hope so 🫠

[@mychaoticneutralace4617]

@@Mister.vampire yeah she's half, i'm pretty sure i remember seeing her in a variety show when she was very young and she was living in korea way before she got signed anywhere so i don't think it would have been a problem anyway XD

[@Mister.vampire]

@mychaoticneutralace4617 My God Thank You :) I'm happy Atleast this things Won't happen To Other memebr It will be a mess If one memebr They can handle it well

[@brainburn03]

Danielle's parents could adopt Hanni.😅

[@user-zo2ge3oe8d]

If she’s not gonna work for ador then why does she need to be in South Korea?

[@W0NNYGLASSES]

I feel so bad for jungwon ☹️

[@Sunflow730]

NJ stated that they would continue with the remaining schedules and tasks that Ador had already planned. NJ have terminated the exclusive contract, but clearly will fulfill external contracts tied to ADOR, with this in mind it would seem that ADOR would re apply for Hannis visa as she and the girls are still completing the remaining portion of organized contracts. Refusal to do so on their part is a disadvantage to them. While Hanni has no control over her visa sponsorship. So if they refuse to release it after being asked, it is not a reflection on Hanni and NJs claim to be independent. Court decisions should provide clarity for all parties. Honestly, we know nothing and need clarification by the court.

[@ellianaunervers8692]

Im earlyy

[@cuteangel4eva2]

and i feel like it's a trap news done by Ador (my opinion) to make the public think that's she's still jailed in the company in contrast to their dispute of leaving tsk tsk this is such a mess but I still stand with the girls 💯 cheering for you guys. Stay strong and healthy 💙🩷💛💚💜 👊

[@amjad0383]

They are still illit even after all the criticism ,as they keep copying NewJeans choreography In their latest performance at the Music Bank Global Festival in Japan their intro dance was copied from NewJeans' "Right Now" choreography the are going way to far with copying new jeans

[@mariamhesrey115]

So now ppl can dance to table and chair You need to educate yourself, your favourite are free but still obsessed with ILLIT

[@nobadreviewshere]

nj didnt invent the dance by the way

[@MrDjonee20]

No problem, she can become korean by investing certain amount of money in bank or business in the country, every country has different rules but normaly they ask for half a mill US dlls and you become a citizen even with your family automatically, well thats how it is at least in the US and EU, so dont worry baby you will kick butt