Fans Are Trying to Find Rosé's EX!! NewJeans Respond to Ador, Ador Responds to Employee Claims...

[@michaelmayo]

If I was Rosie's ex, I'd get the hell out of Korea. Blinks are going to uncover him eventually and he's going to be mobbed with furious fans.

[@UwU_for_Christ]

why does it have to be a him 🤨

[@slythea]

​@@UwU_for_Christ oh no the gayses theory

[@Sparky.Sparky.BoomMan]

They sound super nosey

[@Ayati._.R]

​@@UwU_for_Christcuz rosé used "him" "he" in an interview for the ex, the mv has a guy and they even kissed (acting) she isn't lesbian.

[@Brianna.xoxo.123]

@@Ayati._.Ruhm that’s weird wishing someone was lesbian plus she’s Christian

[@allelitememesaem3916]

It is me. I am Rose's ex. I'm sorry

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

YOU’D BETTER BE! NOW BRACE YOURSELF FOR THE CONSEQUENCES! ATTACK!!! *CUE DRAMATIC MUSIC* 🍅💣🔥⚔️🔪🤼

[@moluccensis]

kevin who gave you access to a youtube account???!?!1

[@allelitememesaem3916]

@moluccensis ~ it's a secret

[@brianlittrell797]

​@@allelitememesaem3916 I imagine any ex of Rose's would be sorry. She seems like quite a catch. 😂

[@mapybermeo]

Spill the tea🍵

[@AnHuynh01101]

Am I wrong to say Ador technically owns the copyright of all NewJeans songs? If NewJeans terminates the contract, that means they can’t sing the songs without permission from Ador? On top of that, right now most of their activities, they don’t use the name, NewJeans, but the show they are on still use the NewJeans name to introduce them. I mean this is too complicated to understand.

[@Horsetown1]

They can still sing it; they just don't own the rights, and so they can't earn money from it.

[@vincenzaseano6456]

​@@Kp0p_0piNi0nS-sare song covers in general illegal then?

[@immealldayeveryday9425]

They are still under ador rather than they like it or not

[@tsukasa6364]

​@@immealldayeveryday9425 maybe just sit back and let the legal process handle it

[@googlegogle9360]

you are right. They do not own the songs, or even their name.

[@P4tyY]

There’s so much happing she’s posting everyday , things are SO messy rn 😭

[@himaririku9254]

STRAY KIDS IS THE KING OF KPOP STRAY KIDS IS THE KING OF KPOP,

[@daveulrich]

I think the reason Rosé can do something like kiss on screen is because as a solo artist, she isn't really even in the "K-Pop" genre anymore. She's from New Zealand and Australia, currently living in LA, and singing English ballads very much in the vein of Taylor Swift. Just because she's a member of BlackPink doesn't mean her solo work should be shuffled into the K-Pop genre-even though APT has Korean lyrics, it also has BRUNO MARS. So yes, Blackpink is K--Pop, but Rosé, Jennie, Lisa... they're all Pop without the K.

[@UntaraRahman]

@daveulrich yah I also think so and truely speaking I don't think she's gonna promote this album in korea.

[@vixxexo6855]

I think YG is less strict with stuff like that in general. Like Bigbang also had videoes of the members kissing and flirting with girls. Like just look at Bigbang Bae Bae. Dara from 2NE1’s solo Kiss also has a kissing scene.

[@soggytomales893]

guessing how her ex is is ok, going to those mens social media and attacking them with ZERO EVIDENCE is fking insane. also you cant go by the male actor appearance in the mv because thats how the actor Evan mock looks in real life the pink buzz cut was not done for the mv thats his look

[@Emma.00.00]

Is like on a divorce..you can said i am divorced but you need to go to a lawyer or court to be legal divorced...because is a big difference to say something is end only by mouth

[@nolanfamily1858]

That’s very true

[@ws1-p9u]

A commercial contract is not like a marriage/divorce. States/countries have specific laws governing marriage [contracts], including how then can be ended. Commercial contracts routinely include termination clauses. Courts only get involved if there are disputes between the parties to a commercial contract over their respective interpretation of specific clauses/terms of there contract. Commercial contracts are often unilaterally terminated without the parties disputing the termination in court. This is not the case in this case.

[@ozzybreezy]

It's also like being with an abusive powerful husband. You're afraid to leave even if he's hurting you physically and mentally because you don't know how to start again or where to go. Now that you mustered all your courage, you're getting ridiculed by society making rumors that you left your family because you just wanted to be single again. Now let that sink in.

[@TYC365]

NJ's contract termination was amazing. No artist has ever tried this before. Even though it's what they deserve to do. Because artists have always had to follow the company's orders.

[@dianadeluxe2542]

@@TYC365 I can tell you one of those delulu tokkis cause this not how the real world or contract works it's the same way how me,a lot of people,and even the courts thought mhj was dumb for even filing for the second injunction cause once again that's not how the real world or contract works....unless they have huge evidence or case of ador breaching their contracts(which Hybe and Ador are separate entities and also according to Hanni she already said all the new breach of trust examples/evidences which they hinted they were gonna release at the national assembly lol) than the court will side with Ador(since in scenerio like this unless there's a big proof the company mistreated or breached the artists the courts like to protect the companies and investors). you can't just up and end your contract because you feel like it without signifcant proof which is why there are laws and courts to keep everyone in check and trust public sympathy and delulu bunnies can't help them in that aspect especially since NJ already breached their contracts many times

[@aysenurg5609]

Some ADOR staff members were contacting brands for NJ behind ADORs back. Situation is getting worse, ADOR has the right to check the laptops and the phones they use for work. Wiping clean the laptop is suspicious. The NJ brand is ruined in less than a year.

[@purpleskiesforever]

I give it 2 months when Ador can't get them brand deals anymore

[@GOODfourYOU7088]

@@purpleskiesforever what do you mean?

[@MG322_88]

Guarantee that it was the advertisers who tipped ador and hybe off about what those employees were doing. No company is going to get involved with a group that is in a contract dispute. It's also illegal for companies to sign contracts with them until the contract is officially terminated and stated as invalid by a court.

[@purpleskiesforever]

@GOODfourYOU7088 There's suspicions that the New Jeans members knew of, and may have helped, MHJ with the attempt to take over Ador management rights. Even if they never did, just tge rumor of it going around is a blow to their reputation and advertisers don't want their brand linked to it. We'll see how it goes.

[@purpleskiesforever]

@MG322_88 I think the tip came from the Davolink CEO. He was pissssedddd in that article. Lol

[@VeryTired-c7b]

Newjeans gave adore 14 days and adore did respond with 20 pg letter but their conference was already planned. They claimed their staff was harmed as adore took the staffs laptop but that laptop belongs to adore and was being investigated. They keep saying hybe mediaplay but until dispatch every articles were pro mhj......

[@Odin99687]

Y las fotos no mienten , una reunión un día antes de la asamblea, con MHJ ( que tiene conflictos con Ador) y un abogado.

[@ekranabdi7465]

They also took personal phones so what’s your point?

[@Odin99687]

@ekranabdi7465 no todo el equipo era el de la compañía y la auditoria, no significa nada , si no hay evidencia u si borra la información, es obvio una admisión de culpa, aparte que fueron avisados por la otra parte, así que aún sin éso, hay evidencia.

[@XxMABY_LauxX]

dispatch was part of HYBEs plan

[@Odin99687]

@XxMABY_LauxX Dispach ahora trabaja , para Hybe lol , bueno digamos que si crees éso adelante y engañate sólo. Si quieres .Pero en que afecta a las pruebas éso ? Las hace imaginarias, ni MHJ puede negar una foto , o los mensajes ( sólo puede decir que son privados, pero éso no los hace falso, menos si la otra persona se los da a Dispach).

[@eeyejee]

I'm curious how NJ could actually defend themselves in this current situation. If they say they've left ADOR but are continuing obligations that means they continue sharing profits with the company which would either mean they're still under a valid contract(diminishing their claim of being done with ADOR) or it's absolutely an illegal situation if they're no longer under contract with ADOR. I personally think its a lose - lose for NJ unfortunately.

[@brianlittrell797]

It depends on exactly what is written in their contracts. I suspect New Jeans and their parents have been advised by one or several lawyers exactly how to proceed on their fight against the company. They probably have been advised as to what they can and cannot do legally given the terms and conditions in the contract. I doubt they are flying by the seat of their pants without proper legal advice. They have said they will be taking this to court so we will find out more if they do. I know people believe they are lying. But I suspect they are telling the truth even if they are being manipulated to some extent by MHJ. It remains to be seen whether they have sufficient evidence to prove mistreatment and violations of contract. It will be most interesting if they can.

[@noydbnoydb9402]

This a Hail Mary, imo. They know they don't have a leg to stand on, but they're trying to bluster their way through it

[@brianlittrell797]

@@noydbnoydb9402 You don't know what they know. You don't know much at all.

[@allie3482]

Ad contracts are signed months in advanced and payment is issued at once for endorsements in full. It is not a monthly payment schedule. The company would have already been paid at the beginning of when the contract was signed and would need to pay the girls based on the company payment schedule / contract terms. They most likely were already paid which is why they are fulfilling the remaining obligations to avoid breach of contract and not taking on anything else. The confusion and misinformation is honestly at all time high. If you don’t know, don’t say anything instead of spreading speculation and a whole list of possibilities from a made up idea and personal opinion.

[@brianlittrell797]

@@allie3482 What you said makes perfect sense. This is undoubtedly why they are fulfilling their obligations like they said they would.

[@karenc6568]

The court will now decide the validity of their contracts. It doesn't matter what New Jeans says. Once the court makes its decision, that's it, unless New Jeans appeals.

[@ws1-p9u]

Correct. It also does not matter what Ador/HYBE says and/or thinks. Not knowing the details of Ador's legal claim, I suspect that Ador will be seeking to keep the case as legally narrow as possible. If that is the case and if Ador do win, I suspect that NewJeans will issue subsequent terminations in the future, on different grounds.

[@karenc6568]

@@ws1-p9u Yes, exactly.

[@hanakei.crochet]

⁠@@ws1-p9u If NewJeans loses they will be liable for damages if Ador seeks them. The court may or may not legally reinstate the contract by compelling NewJeans to go back to Ador. If they were compelled to return (which granted, is unlikely), I imagine the damages would deter them from attempting this fiasco again, as the court would look even less favorably at a second attempt after already losing the once. Or honestly more likely is Ador terminates NewJeans’ contract in return because they’d have a court ruling that NewJeans committed wrongful termination which is itself a breach of contract. Ador would then have a court ruling proving that they can unilaterally terminate the contract themselves, keep their IP, *and* sue for legal fees + lost profits to recover their losses while also not having to deal with NewJeans’ hostility- pretty much letting them have their cake and eat it too in return for NewJeans’ misconduct. Again that’s assuming NewJeans loses. Although I don’t have a lot of faith that they’re gonna win either.

[@Odin99687]

​@@ws1-p9uEllas tienen que pagar .

[@teneiamitchell2650]

@@ws1-p9u Also no one likes going to court because it always exposing more from both sides so I'm suspecting that both would prefer not to go to court if possible.

[@Maggiebsas]

Wait, if NJ is no longer under ADOR then how are they supposed to fullfil contracts with brands that were signed under HYBE? Also, new contracts are going to have to include clauses that will punish artists in the future in this type of situation, to stop them from trying to break agreements and contracts.

[@UwU_for_Christ]

they cant. unless they prove breach in a court, or file for an injunction, continuing with activities after a unilateral declaration that the contract is terminated would be a tort in Korean law, and any company that works with them may be considered a joint tortfeasor. NJ cannot, legally, do any group activities until there is a court determination on their contract.

[@Mal.victory]

those things are signed individually Ador is music brands is fashion... unless the label made the contracts with brands to boost the group awareness domestically or internationally

[@brianlittrell797]

@@Maggiebsas Unless the legal system passes certain laws that prevent companies from unfairly punishing artists for trying to break contracts. The better option might be for the parents of idols to hire several good lawyers to make sure the contracts are fair for both the idols and companies. Right now companies can easily get away with mistreatment or abuse and just lie about it. Which is what I suspect Hybe and Ador are doing. Abusing people and lying about it. If that is true then l hope NJ can prove contract violations. Your first point is good and I'm wondering what New Jean's lawyers have advised them to do. It would be foolish of them to take any actions without proper legal advice.

[@brianlittrell797]

@@Mal.victory That makes sense.

[@bubble8679]

yeah that’s why adore filed a suit and did all of that to minimize future chances of the artists violating the contract. the least those girls can do is waiting for the court's responses if they don't wanna fail

[@GOODfourYOU7088]

So is no one going to talk about adors response and the manager deleting and Factory restarting a work laptop when asked to give it in??

[@purpleskiesforever]

Those girls are in deep legal trouble if they find evidence that they knew and helped with the attempted takeover

[@Ugggghhhd]

Nah the new ADOR people asked for personal phones and work laptops. It’s super sus that the employee reset the laptop (since it was a work one) but also why is ADOR asking for personal property. So idk 🤷‍♀️

[@GOODfourYOU7088]

@Ugggghhhd where did you read that? (not trying to be rude just want to know) "Even after announcing the termination of our exclusive contracts, we have continued to fulfill our remaining schedules with ADOR responsibly, as promised. However, we have witnessed managers and producers assisting with these schedules being severely harassed, such as having their laptops confiscated and being subjected to unannounced investigations by ADOR and HYBE" what I got from NewJeans statement. Tbh it's not just sus, it's a whole as crime. Plus if the brand is snitching it propbably was a big brand bc they went straight to Ador for clarifications. Newjeans actively associating with this employee kind of ruins all credibility. They shouldn't have brought it up bc yeah not reflecting good on them. Erasing and restarting a work laptop after allegedly being asked to hand it in and then constantly making excuses as to why you couldn't bring it in is... Also the staff was hired by ADOR and not newjeans. Newjeans may want to claim that they aren't under Ador anymore but managers and producers cannot. They are Ador employees. They should put in their two weeks if they want to work with newjeans. They don't have exclusive contracts to fall on. This should actually be the main focus (the manager and other producers). White collar crime is treated very harshly. Also if they aren't under Ador what's happening to Danielle and Hani? Like Korea does not play around those Typa things.

[@purpleskiesforever]

@Ugggghhhd They asked for it because they worked from their personal devices. If the employee said 'no', then Hybe didn't pursue it further.

[@GOODfourYOU7088]

@@purpleskiesforever ooooo is this in reference to hybes first late night audit?? Yeah they, Hybe, didn't go further

[@ioutsoldurfavs]

I love rose making a whole album about her past toxic relationship and I think we should have more of that in kpop, but I hate how “blinks” are attacking random innocent skateboarding men with dyed hair online thinking that they’re her toxic ex with no evidence likeee yall aren’t the detective yous think you are, Kpop stans are never beating the chronically online allegations fr 💀

[@inferiorinferno8859]

Plus, Rose herself said, 'WE' were toxic from the start and in her first song about it, 'Gone', she mentioned hating on his new girlfriend in the literal chorus which are obvious red flags coming from her because if she knew anything about her fanbase she'd know this would happen. I feared for her ex and his girlfriend the moment she released that song. I'm starting to get some bully vibes from Rosé for creating this mess bbecause anyone with a brain should have seen this coming.

[@MariaDevelos-sh8pf]

​@@inferiorinferno8859 I feel like Rosé needs to advise her fans to stop targeting her ex because it won't do any good.

[@KpopOpinionator]

​@@inferiorinferno8859gone ,toxic to end ,love sick girl ,number one girl all are heartbreak songs ,it could be referring to anybody and not just one person ,the person might or might have a girlfriend,at this rate we don't know anything and the person is a non celebrity ,rose gave us lots of songs in that type which isn't seen in kpop generally ,instead of attacking random people ,we should just drop it.

[@Elphabaisnotacreativecolou-r5i]

It's better to leave that man alone, he might gonna try to ruin Rosé life again if Blinks attack him. Also, he might be a clout chaser and use his infamous for his career

[@Jaa-qj9he]

idk why were blaming the curious fans when its rose herself who opened it up about it. Rose talked about it ofcourse people would be curious. its niether rose or fans fault. rose have the right to talk about her past relationship and fans have the right to be curious who that person is. you cant tell a half story and expect people to not be curious and just leave it at that.

[@suan333]

​@@Jaa-qj9he fans have the right to NOTHING about her or other idol/celebrity private life. The only thing fans are entitled to from artists is their art. Period. Anything outside of it is a gift the artist wants to give but thay doesn't mean is your fcking business.

[@Unhingedjeanz]

​@@Jaa-qj9heI'm sorry what? Do you even know what blinks and fans are capable of?... It can be very dangerous for the person. So yes fans are wrong

[@Jaa-qj9he]

@@Unhingedjeanz if you dont want fans to be curious then dont talk about it. dont blame the fans that are curious blame the fans who wants to do harm. do you hear yourself? you cant tell a story about someone and expect people to not ask who that someone is. curiosity is literally in our dna.

[@CieT7]

@@Jaa-qj9he One thing is being curious, i get it, we want to know who she talking about. Another thing is harassing a person of something that happened in the past with someone else. Lets say you had an ex and no one knows, then you decide to talk about it, your fans are like "ooh you were dating? who?" and they start searching and target this person and start harassing them for something that they didn't experience. Yes Rose is on her rights to talk about it, Yes the fans are right to be curious to know BUT NO that doesn't give the right for fans to start harassing "the ex" of someone else. I think that's the point here.

[@MG322_88]

Stalling for hours when the company demands you return your company issued laptop and then returning it in its factory reset form is a huge red flag for guilt. They literally know that what they were doing was wrong, illegal, and a breach of contracts, so they scrubbed the laptop clean to erase the evidence.

[@brianlittrell797]

@@MG322_88 That's just your biased opinion. You don't even know if Ador and Hybe are telling the truth. You are assuming guilt without sufficient evidence. Therefore your comment is ironic and funny.

[@suan333]

@@brianlittrell797 can't it being said about your comments as well? That you are being biased in favor of NJ and their tactics? It's fair to suspect suspicious activities when their "mom" MHJ is known for being a stealthy corrupted rat.

[@MG322_88]

@brianlittrell797 that's not a biased opinion, kid. It was a company issued computer, and they were told to hand it over. They stalled for hours, and when they returned it, it had been wiped clean and returned to factory preset. The only reason to do such a thing is to erase evidence of wrong doings. That's not opinion. It's fact. Employees don't have the authority to wipe their company issued computer clean. When the company requests you return a company issued electronic device, you return it immediately and without tampering. You're either a child or you've never had a job before if you think this is a biased opinion. It's a fact kid

[@MG322_88]

@brianlittrell797 if they need to I'm sure thry can back up what they say with official documents and correspondences and from their IT. You litltle kids acting like a multi billion dollar company is going to make shit up in this kind of situation are hysterical. HR and IT and management send out everything through timestamped emails so that there are always paper trails to go back to and use as evidence. This shit is standard operating procedure for companies.

[@MG322_88]

@brianlittrell797 the recent leaks from dispatch included videos, audo recordings, messages, documents, photos, etc and one of the sources for these came from one of the NJ members parents. Another source for them was executives from the company MHJ was trying to get as an investor. Mhj also got caught calculating the termination penalty costs and talking to VCs and 3rd party investors behind hybes back 6 months ago and hybe had documentation of all of this. This newly leaked information backs it all up even further. Ador and hybe also 100% learned about the attempts at making a deal with a 3rd party brand through that brand because NO company is going to make a deal with a group that is in the middle of a contract dispute. In fact, it's illegal in most countries for companies to make deals with assets that are involved in contract disputes. Yet you 🤡s are still trying every way you can to defend NJ and MHJ. LIKE Bruhhh

[@katharina3362]

New Jeans really ruined their career for a woman who would drop them like a sack of potatoes if she had to All of the adults in their life need to be investigated fr, like who is advising them? Clearly not someone with a lot of common sense

[@nycjt6267]

#2 law firm in S.Korea LOL

[@Fearless.cat1209]

Or maybe they just saved themselves from an abusive company? You think that kpop is all glamorous and cool ? Didn't you read all the stuff about the dark sides of Kpop? All idols will tell you years later how abusive and horrible the industry is and how it ruined their teenage years. It's a toxic and dark place, they're better off far from it

[@Gloria-qm1tw]

Ppl should mind their own business a bit more and separate the artist from their personal life at times. Because some of these "fans" keep on crossing the line. Like dead ass, what's Ur business knowing who her ex is? Just enjoy the music and the art with our being so disrespectful.

[@suan333]

Everyone, from Angelina to the commenters should listen to korean lawyers talking about this more than any other "sources" on the vast internet.

[@brianlittrell797]

What are the Korean lawyers saying?

[@ws1-p9u]

Any good lawyer isn't going to offer much comment other than generalities, and "it depends upon the specific language in the contract[s]"; and "it looks as though this matter will be resolved in court now so it is best not to speculate".

[@samanthamay9779]

Basically that NJ is making emotional decisions and not within the law,,, they held the press conference before the deadline, and they don't specify what breach of trust Ador broke. There's like no core in their arguments. And even if they refer to a stipulation within the contract it still need to go through the legal route and not a press conference saying contact is terminated. Etc

[@ws1-p9u]

​@@samanthamay9779It is true that contracts are not usually terminated via press conference, normally it would be via written notification (letter/email), sometimes verbal. NewJeans may have notified in addition to the press conference. However if by "legal" you mean that contracts have to be terminated via courts, this is incorrect. Courts adjudicate disputes between parties to contracts over specific terms of their contracts. I.e. Ador is basically asking the court to determine whether NewJean's notification of termination is consistent with the clauses of their contract, which Ador currently dispute.

[@dontknow-yw9kg]

Don't know about lawyers but kmf and kega i guess are definitely against new jeans decission.

[@Samuel-hu8uk]

I don’t even understand what’s happening anymore, they said the contract was terminated but ador says otherwise, the response from nwjs are again their feelings and broken trust. We are getting somewhere with this one 😂

[@lilhonni]

I clocked out of this drama weeks ago and skip it

[@noydbnoydb9402]

​@lilhonni I think I'm gonna do the same and just check back in when they ultimately lose this suit horribly and are either stuck fulfilling their contract or paying that big a- penalty to get out of it

[@mrrockjin8415]

Ador go to the court for contract validation. While NJ just self claim and do the press con.

[@Odin99687]

Si NJ no va a la corte y lo hace oficial, no sirve decir que se terminó, porque no vale .

[@vachikagupta43]

Since NJ success wasn’t organic and they shot to fame in an instant, it seemed that they will also experience downfall with the same speed.

[@yumeyum9927]

NJ-ADOR situation is so stupid ador should have taken this to court since day one when MHJ was doing illegal shit and staff were going behind their backs, instead of being stuck in a game of they said we said game with a bunch of kids. They did well by filling a law suit so that this shit would be clarified once and for all besides how are they expecting to keep going with their brand deals and schedules with their staff when they aren't bart of ADOR anymore

[@Queendom-jd9ln]

Why newjeans don't want to work with the new Ador CEO? Why they don't give new CEO a chance? Why they don't learn to adapt to new changes in Ador? Why they are not humble? Why they are not versatile? Why Nj love Mhj so much? Because Mhj paid their views, streams & album sales that's y they love Mhj & can't accept new Ador CEO? Why they can't just adapt & be professional idols. Also, they are idols, they should learn to be humble & to be matured.

[@guiver8408]

Elles ne peuvent pas obéir à la nouvelle direction car les parents de NJ et Mhj sont des affaires frauduleuses comme les lobbying body et plus .

[@ambiguousness]

PLEASE cover vcha's kg lawsuit. there's a summary of it and it's horrific, but really important to talk about. she exposes the kpop industry

[@shoujofanatic]

@4:45 Of course their actions are affecting others negatively, they are naive to think that Ador wouldn’t retaliate. New Jeans takes no accountability or responsibility for their employees and fans to improve this situation.

[@purpleskiesforever]

All they had to do is meet with Ador to discuss and they refused. That's going to bite them in the behind later

[@hanakei.crochet]

Did these kids really think they could just say they weren’t Ador’s artists anymore while still expecting Ador’s staff, on Ador payroll, to manage their “independent artist” activities?

[@MOARMYForyou]

The fact that NJ members response say "again" which clearly states that MHJ is the one who wrote it because it is the very first time ADOR filed something against NJ but the word "again" gives it all away that this is MHJ speaking

[@Wanwanspittingfacts]

Honestly speaking, I feel uncomfortable whenever celeb talks badly about their ex in public, like the case of a divorced couple appeared in Return of Superman. Fans will always defend their idols, or whoever speak up first, then cyberbullying, attacking, even doxxing the ex. That's just fucking wrong, when we don't know the whole story. Not all, but there are many idols fans are just crazy, obsession, not exactly boyfriend/girlfriend type who type think they have a shot being with their idols, but the overly protective one who think no one "deserves" their idols, putting their idols so high on pedestal while others are lowly peasants, that's just insane.

[@gabbydejesus8419]

Please cover the lawsuit that KG is filing against JYPE! This situation is sooo sad

[@meubemmochi]

In very simple terms, that is what the industry is trying to say : The investor are not in the business of doing favors to idols: I will give you money to train, launch your career and , when you make some money you go your merry way after paying me back LOL. If the idol is not sucessfull, he loses all his money, because the idol would not pay him back. The investor will want a big profit for taking all the risk of investing on the idols. If he could not expect a very good profit, he would invest in other business and lots of the idols would never be idols, because their familes could not launch theirs careers. That is the problem of idols leaving the contracts without paying the penalties. If they reach an agreement with the companies in private or in court, they can leave. Many did it.

[@markigirl2757]

Yikes about Ador vs New Jeans. Welp we’ll see what happens this will be a lesson for the future when it comes to contract disputes. I don’t pay attention to what’s going on online I’ll let the courts decide what their fate is. If they lose it’s over for them which is sad I enjoyed their music and will continue to support them. Fingers crossed they settle

[@nicolecmke]

Talking about being real wrong real loudly. Sheesh! 🙄 I think NJ loyalty is the result of them eating those rice cakes MHJ gave them from the shaman. The staff must've eaten some too. 🤣

[@justinseagull7452]

lololol

[@alexisflowers5069]

Kudos to you for owning up to your wrongs, that makes a great content creator in the long run

[@aysenurg5609]

Sounds like Rose is inspired by T. Swift too much. I am glad fans are enjoying her album and her opening up. It is opposite effect for me. I dont want to know the back story of the songs. Sometimes there should be a mystery for the listeners to enjoy and interpret themselves. She has a great talent, let the album speak for itself.

[@Dr.Zekemedvlog.]

This what most singers do this way u get locals fans, she is born in western world raised in that era.. it's not her fault..

[@inferiorinferno8859]

@Dr.Zekemedvlog. It is her fault, because her fanbase isn't western and she's been active long enough in the K-POP industry to know how Blinks and regular K-POP fans are when it comes to doxxing and online harassment. Don't infantalize her ability to be aware of a situation. If she has any intelligence, she should have know this would happen. I did so the minute she released 'Gone' and started mentioning her ex. Are you saying Rosé is stupid because she was born in the West?

[@acenewark]

You have become my go to for kpop news. best wishes

[@АрайлымНургазы-х1с]

About kisses in mvs. I can add that in triple h's mv hyuna and dawn kissed multiple times (sorry for reminding you of this ex-couple)

[@2K1Entertainment_official]

KG FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST JYPE AND LEFT VCHA!

[@Dddddddfy]

If you have a dispute with a contract go to court.... And have evidence .... otherwise the issue is really messy on the new jeans side

[@Literally_dangeleeen]

One of the members from vcha from jyp went to court about her claims but new jeans haven't? They had the same claims about the mistreatment they had at jyp

[@piasambleben2796]

@@Literally_dangeleeen I dont think they were quit the same they were much worse and I bet she has prove

[@Literally_dangeleeen]

@@piasambleben2796 the difference is that they took it to court , new jeans could be away from hybe already if they took it to court , especially if they had or have proof about what they are saying , instead they are going to press conferences , and if they won the case they wouldn't have to pay penalties, which they are actively trying to avoid , if what you're saying were true you wouldn't be afraid to just let the court decide

[@JRHHH]

The kiss scene you are thinking of is Troublemaker, Now. The kiss scene in that video was K-pop shocking back then 😂❤

[@nolanfamily1858]

I can’t wait for the court of new jeans vrs ador i kinda just want this hole thing to go to rest its been dragging on for to long now

[@tting-zz1kj]

true, its so tiring ....

[@MrSuperjam789]

It would be funny if it turns out Rose didn't have an ex, she was just using it as a creative license since a song does not have to be based off real life events.

[@ambiguousness]

i think she said in an interview it's based on true things

[@whydidyoutubechangemyuser]

@@ambiguousnessit could be a lie for marketing

[@GigiM_winx]

​@whydidyoutubechangemyuser anything can ba a lie then?

[@whydidyoutubechangemyuser]

@@GigiM_winx exactly. ppl lie all the time, and most of the time it’s for their own benefit. i mean, i could be lying right now just to fool you. rosé could be lying for press drama, it gives exposure and make sales go up. you never know.

[@ambiguousness]

@whydidyoutubechangemyuser maybe this is all a simulation and we're all lizard people

[@bethlarue9054]

Ador does not have to prove that the contract is valid. That is the genius of Ador's lawsuit. NJ will have to prove that there was a breach of contract. Silly little girls

[@Odin99687]

Exacto y lo triste es que aún no lo entienden. No sirve fingir inocencia, si tienen un abogado al lado.

[@annyasousasilva]

is so funny how Idols are not considered employees when is about workers rights (we know a lot of idols fighting their live in courts, no law protect them) but they can't terminate a contract if they found a gap....

[@skyedestiny]

Totally agree. Companies are able to dismiss an artist and terminate a contract without the artist being able to do anything about it but the artist can't dismiss their company? Even though they're deemed as being on equal footing by the courts? This does not make sense.

[@skyedestiny]

The argument that, "Many idols will do this if this is successful" is also baffling. Are you saying that mistreatment of and dissatisfaction from the artists' side towards the industry is so rampant that this would tear things down if it were allowed to happen? Doesn't that point to a severely flawed and inappropriate industry, then? And corporate awareness of this fact, without doing anything to improve conditions?

[@eeyejee]

That's all because they sign a contract as technically "partners" with the company, sharing profits so they're not considered employees. That's why so few have managed to get out of toxic contracts.

[@annyasousasilva]

@eeyejee yes, so many idols are treated like garbage and can't get out, but if NJ actually found a gap on their contracts, allowing them to get out the industry wanted them to stay....? because will change the relationship with idols and companies....?

[@noydbnoydb9402]

I mean... what's weird about that. Employees can quit any time they want, there's a difference

[@shuhaothomasyu2290]

The kiss is givin mama awards troublemaker stage kiss level of shock

[@ClakyNotReversed]

Why are they insisting the contracts are invalid, yet they continue doing activities with Ador's staff and money?

[@sarahbynum97]

Regarding this NewJeans thing, if you want to prove that your contract is invalid show receipts post your contract because it shows your side and the other side agreements because this back-and-forth is ridiculous if you’re gonna do it in public, give us everything you got

[@flaggov6949]

I think the terms of the contract related to disputes must currently be ambiguous. Otherwise, it'd be more clear what should happen when one party gives notice, the other responds in a timely manner, but the issues aren't resolved. Even if the court said NJ is in the clear, I expect it to have minimal impact and only for a little while. Companies will adjust all new contracts to make the process more clear e.g. requiring unresolved disputes to go through a mediation process. In the end, required mediation would be an improvent. Right now, it seems that either the responding party can reject the contractees complaints out-of-hand or the complainant can reject the respondents answers outright. Neither should be true. If the parties can't resolve the issue on their own, the next step should be discussion with a neutral party.

[@24kzumbagoldwithsaleemah32]

Ooookaaaay. So these girls say “The trust is broken” and you can BET MONEY that THAT message has been drummed into their heads by a certain surreptitious bad actor who shall remain nameless, that has been, and continues to be, sneakily trying to separate NJ and ADOR from HYBE. She has removed herself from the driver’s seat and put the girls behind the wheel, but for SURE she is still telling them where to go, how fast or how slow, and still manipulating them. Although by now, her process of making them completely dependent on her and her alone (also known as brainwashing) is finished, they now believe they are doing things “on their own” and acting on their own, but in fact she continues to call the shots, and all of the parents are completely fine with that too. I don’t feel any empathy towards them at this point. And as horrible as it sounds, I hope they face consequences and whatever penalties they have to pay are levied. “That woman” has been steering things towards the ditch for her own benefit and I hope they all tumble in. Maybe that will shake up the parents and these misguided girls. And by the way…who is paying THEIR legal fees? They certainly aren’t drawing up these statements and legal responses etc. on their own!

[@LimeIsTheName]

I think some Winner mv the boys kissed. I know Mino kissed in one of the teaser for EXIT:E, and I think one of the members kissed in "Baby Baby" [Seung-hoon?]. Tiffany partially kissed in her MV for Heartbreak Hotel. IU kissed in her "Friday" MV. Kissing is definitely a rarity.

[@mongraal35.z44]

Hybe and Ador have every right to file a lawsuit, newjeans are UNDER CONTRACT ffs lmao, and from what I've seen, there are no specifications on weather Hybe or Ador are obligated to "protect" newjeans whatever that means. Hybe or Ador isn't responsible for protecting your feelings girls, there job is to put food in your mouths, put roofs over your heads, clothes on your back, book and finance shows, tours, fanmeets, apparel, accessories, studio hours,music videos, promotional content and bring brand deals to the table for the group to either accept or decline. I mean how sensitive do you have to be to make one of the reasons why your leaving is because a staff member corrected the album numbers sold like c'mon girls. This whole thing is pathetic

[@noydbnoydb9402]

I agree. I mean, God forbid a news outlet have correct numbers 🙄

[@mongraal35.z44]

@@noydbnoydb9402 I do have sympathy for them though. There still young and naive. That's the problem with kpop, taking kids away from home putting them in bootcamps for training and letting kids raise kids. that system will just make a higher percentage of spoiled kids that don't know the burden and stress a true 9-5 gives you and provides you with insight into a normal person life, but to take them away from there parents to put them in bootcamps just isn't gonna end well imo

[@Mizuu_kiiii]

I hope whatever happens it wil be good

[@ahynnzie]

ANGIE POSTED YALL

[@briangalban14]

Wow!!!!!!!!! 😮😮😮 miss Angelina, thank you so much again for sharing the latest news in the KPOP world last 4 days ago about the legalities of the termination of contract of NewJeans in ADOR last November 29, 2024... I think too also that before you terminate the contract of an artist, there should be a legality why the termination should happen? I really hope that the other Kpop news such as Trying to find Rosé's Ex and the opinion of Korea Entertainment Association about the issue about NewJeans' Contract Termination will be over?

[@mongraal35.z44]

So much drama yet when BTS return everyone gonna forget about newjeans lol

[@minuii]

Ahjusii returning💀

[@mongraal35.z44]

@minuii huh

[@noydbnoydb9402]

Pretty much... Hybe's stock is going to skyrocket and NJ's with be smacked in the face with how little they truly matter

[@judithmean362]

​@@minuii hot dudes will come back. We're tired of children in this industry. They should go back to school.

[@bubble8679]

@@minuiifooo normalize ahjussi rather than underage bratt

[@purpleskiesforever]

I'm sorry but the contract dispute is small potatoes if its found they knew and helped MHJ try to take over ADOR management rights. Those are criminal charges. And we know one of their uncles was facilitating financing for it with Dabolink

[@judithmean362]

Now davolink is attacked mhj back for dropping their stock.

[@r.ianuhh]

UGH thank you for finding that dara mv i knew 2nd gen did it first 🥴

[@RMB-yw5bj]

Having an exclusive contract and not being consider as a worker is still insane to me 😅 ... Like how ? I get the termination there, I feel like everyone let them fight alone in all of this. Poor girls really 😢

[@cynthiawilson5602]

Oh my gosh waiting for video about Vcha and Vcha’s KG?

[@jasAgustd]

There has definitely been a shift in sentiment. New Jeans initially garnered a lot of sympathy, but I see that people have grown tired of the claims and some lies that have come to light. I completely agree with the Korean association that if artists can simply make a unilateral decision to terminate their contracts, who in their right mind would want to invest in K-pop anymore? Yes, these artists are talented, but the more I delve into this drama, the more I see the true colors of NJ. Their actions are breaking the trust of some fans, as they come off as disrespectful and arrogant. Honestly, I don’t listen to their songs anymore; I don’t enjoy them as much as I used to. There are much more talented and down to earth girl groups right now such as Katseye, Izna, Illit, Meovv and Kiss of life. I don't want to be associated with anything about NJ already, it's time to shift focus to positive things. Anyway, it's NJ's choice to ruin their careers.

[@Apobangpo358]

If an agency warns shareholders... journalists... fans that the sales figures announced are false... does that become malicious?... The Newjeans' arguments do not hold water and I hope that the court will make the right choice regarding the "validity" of their contracts!! They loudly proclaim that they are no longer part of ADOR but are still on the 16th floor and are using all the benefits granted... If employees still support them... it is normal that ADOR and HYBE investigate coercion that could harm the company!! From the beginning I supported HYBE against Mhj because this woman did anything and I had to "fight" hard against the "pro Mhj" complaining in passing these 5 young girls involved in the turmoil... More than 8 months later... many people realize that Mhj and Newjeans are really accomplices and that beneath their airs of naivety... they have their share of responsibility in the whole affair and pretending that their contract is a simple piece of paper that they can trample on shamelessly will cause this shock wave that the Internet user who follows this affair needed... When you read their statements... the "paw" of "mom cockroach" is obvious... I like it your way of apologizing when you realize a mistake...this proves your maturity of mind which is lacking in these young girls. Thank you

[@MsAsh3070]

The most kpop shocking kiss in a music video to me is still Mamamoo’s Decalcomanie. With the members being pinned up against walls and making out with the male model. And Kpop fans who were around at the time will remember that the version that’s available now is a reupload because the original Solar scene was shot in a way that looked non consensual.

[@ridita5221]

In her new song Rosé said, that the one, who gives her love is BULLETPROOF.😉

[@Neekorus]

Is no one gonna mention about new jeans in their statement saying "take us to court AGAIN"????? When this is the first time they are taken to court? Proving mhj is behind the statement? (Since mhj has been taken to court)???? Or are we ignoring it because we are biased towards new jeans???😂😂😂😂

[@TheFirstOne11111]

The truth is you can be as good as a person as you want, if you dont have the power then its useless

[@exhaust4246]

9:59 there is no music contract in this world where artists have any sort of Leverage.

[@samanthamay9779]

MHJ uses NJ and NJ uses rabbits.🔄 And it shows because of blind fate... how is NJ going to fight for their name or get Ador to pay for penalties if they dont file or do it through a court of law. How are they saying they dont work for Ador and complain about Ador staff in the same statement... and why are they using the exact same script MHJ used for the audit about staff being harassed by Ador when in both cases the staff were taking money under the table/ arranging private contracts with advertisers. Guys,,, just ghink logically.

[@ketkikul8739]

Newjeans not asking for any penalty from Ador, so they dont need to file lawsuit. Also they said they will fight for copyright over NJ brand, but even if they dont ...it doesnt matter a lot. They may loose money, but loosing money is better than rotting in such toxic company . They can come up with new brand n concept.

[@samanthamay9779]

@ketkikul8739 go watch the first conference...

[@ketkikul8739]

@@samanthamay9779 i watched n so ??? Whats ya point??

[@samanthamay9779]

@@ketkikul8739 go watch again cause you missed a few key points.

[@ketkikul8739]

@samanthamay9779 dont talk random What key points you are talking about n at what time its mentioned in press conference??? Tell me

[@noniibuss]

Easy! Mblaq there’s many back in the day idk when and why it stopped Music videos had dramaaa

[@Momo_Land2002]

Rosé explained the back story too much,and this is the reason why she was scared to release the album.I don't want her to go into her dark phase once again after so much hate!

[@helloccmist]

8:17 why blaming them by saying that their "influence" can easily terminate the contract? it is them should take this as the opportunity to learned their lesson. I honestly now agree why NewJeans left their agency just to put this kind of dark behind on the table.

[@qalontsepe]

16:23 Can we please talk about how these people tweeted in the AMs?!

[@qalontsepe]

‘12:04’??? ‘12:05’??? They literally couldn’t wait 😭😂

[@islemmoujehdi7639]

Was it that shocking?

[@slythea]

Rose fans are pulling a swiftie move, interesting considering she said the album was similar to 1989

[@mermaid_splashes]

Wait, how is serving someone with a lawsuit not suing them? Doesn't "to sue" stem from the word "lawsuit"? I don't get the difference.

[@Shestheninja]

Amber Liu - Other People has a kiss scene.

[@MalivoreKai]

Why do I feel like the entire NJ vs ADOR vs MHJ is a cover-up for something? Something's sus

[@BlissfulBinge]

Hybe removed mhj for breach of trust without going to court first. I see the njs situation as exactly being the same. Also at the end court sided with hybe and let them fire mhj.

[@KandyRenee]

HYBE had actual proof..

[@LivelyDays23]

The court ruled that MHJ breached Hybe’s trust but not Ador’s. And then they ended her contract. They did go to court and so far her removal as CEO has been entirely legal. She then left of her own will. NewJeans have not stepped a single foot inside a courtroom.

[@Paris-on-yt]

HYBE filed a case to the court to confirm the cancellation of their contract, Newjeans didn't do that. That's like announcing you divorce someone but not filing the papers.

[@ioutsoldurfavs]

KG VCHA IS SUING JUP ITS ACC DISGUTING THE DETAIL U SHOULD MAKE A VIDEO ON IT

[@win_lit]

About newjeans: Omg, in their new statment they never mentioned mhj😯 What if they starting to understand who's she in reality? Thats would be really cool (And yeah im a bunny btw) About rosie: I was very surprised thats she that openly talks sbout her ex. From her new album i liked the most «drinks or coffee», «gameboy», «number one girl», «toxic till the end» and of course «apt».

[@Ugggghhhd]

Girl as a fan I just want NJ to be ok. I couldnt care less about MHJ but everyone associates wanting good for NJ with wanting good for MHJ.

[@dreamleemah]

NJ seemed pretty content with their contract until they wanted to leave to be with MHJ

[@busybody5381]

Dont get me wrong, I'm laughing at Blinks trying to find Rose ex😂😂😂 I wanna know if its them or dispatch will, just for fun😂😂 btw harassment was never be a thing, I'm pretty sure they will do just that or even worse..

[@ayehh.ouyeahh_]

16:34 T.O.P Kissing scene in LOSER MV

[@armydragon11]

Contracts are made so multiple parties have trust in each other but they are not ment to protect one side over another no matter how hard companies and corporations try to do that. Just because it's unusual for artists to go against there companies doesn't mean it's wrong.

[@melvinmarcos4042]

but companies are able to unilaterally terminate the contract of their artists?

[@bluemooN5384]

How did everything get so out of hand. At the beginning i too was on the side of NJ, but over time i dont feel like i even understand everything anymore. She says - he says- they claim.....in the end NJ are victims too. Who knows what that snake women told them over all those years. I would even go so far as to say NJ had been brainwashed to a certain degree in her favour of course and over time the girls saw and underdtood more and more things not lining up as perfect as MJH told them or made them believe. Same with the parents. All of them just seem to be interested in money and not really the well beeing of the girls. They signed a contract and anybody who goes against that contract in any way needs to be punished-it is simply a law. Who broke a certain point within that said contract or who is to determine the severity of that breach? We? Certainly not! All parties have lawers for that. In the end i just hope, i really hope that all groups involved get out of that situation as soon as possible. Everbody should not forget all thos girls are still kids. Surroundet by money loving sharks and oly having their own interests in mind.

[@Yato-l5c]

Its me. Stop looking. I want my past with rose stay in past.

[@eleanorhughes597]

ik it's not the same... but I think Jimin poses in front of other people kissing in the Like Crazy mv

[@ozzybreezy]

If the company can immediately end contract, how can artist can't do the same? Artists are not considered employees but as a partner.

[@dreamleemah]

I believe, for example Garam if the company terminated the contract because she violated its terms by having a bullying record. Garam isn’t entitled to anything. Now since it’s been said she was found innocent Garam should have gotten a pay out for her contract being terminated early. This is why NJ is trying so hard to prove they were done wrong, so they don’t have to pay the fine of terminating their contract… which I don’t think will work.

[@AlessandraCAmaro]

They shouldn't even battle about ending their contracts when there is a 16 year old there, crazy

[@ATHENA.m-b5f]

Fans are crazy asf. Why seek him out? What do you want? To make him pay for hurting rosé? Who are you to do that? Did she ask you to? 😭

[@Odin99687]

MHJ fue atrapada , porque un inversor la manda al frente cuando se enojo y ella estaba tratando de llevar a NJ, antes de terminar con Ador. Así que hay manipulación y es más grave que el contrato siendo legal.

[@Pinkclouds512]

I can’t deal with NJ’s entitlement and lies anymore. Contacts have fees as a deterrent. They keep changing their story and their allegations of abuse are insulting to the digesting abuse that other idols face. Also, could you please do the skincare and/or face base routine? Editing to add that VCHA and KG’s abuse is horrific. I hope all members can get out of their contracts.

[@visonofficial6003]

Just wow Someone please stop blinks before it's too late

[@Odin99687]

Ellas no pueden terminar un contrato sin pasar por la corte y al Juez, sin importar quién sea, no le va a gustar nada . Ellas no se cansan de hacer enojar a la gente.

[@haku-kun005]

It's also the same case on Taylor 😢

[@amanadhifa1004]

i think Mino's Body had a dead fish kiss underwater

[@AlessandraCAmaro]

Hyuna and Dawn kissed in that song that I don't remember the name lol (before they confirmed they were dating)

[@koto2u]

An Izna member kissed herself in their Izana mv, but idk

[@mattwoodson6427]

I guess all the crazies missed the part where she participated in the toxicity too..?

[@MFANGMUSIC]

not me wanting to be propely KPOP shocked so I clicked off the video and checked out the MV first at 15:46. Then came back to find you were just trolling us ☠

[@moluccensis]

no that’s literally the essence of kpop shocking!!

[@KpopOpinionator]

Can we pls just enjoy the song without attacking anybody?

[@agoysy]

Ofcourse the contract is active. This is such a joke. Ador is saying ipen for discussion and NJ is refusing. Its obvious they just want to get out of the contract. Its also obvious Ador decrease marketing recently on NJ as they OPENLY supported MHJ against ADOR.

[@EmelyHale-u9g]

There are a lot new talented girl groups who are debuting every year. A new talented one is IZNA. New Jeans popularity are dwindling because of their actions.

[@miamiamia3244]

It’s not a unilateral decision. A contract has terms for both sides and they claim Ador breached the contract. Now they go to court to uphold the contract dissolution or overturn it. You covered this every day for months, how can this still be a point of confusion?