Hans Rott : Symphonie en mi majeur (Orchestre philharmonique de Radio France / Constatin Trinks)

Constantin Trinks dirige l’Orchestre philharmonique de Radio France dans la Symphonie n°1 en mi majeur du compositeur autrichien Hans Rott. Enregistré le 13 avril 2018 à l’Auditorium de la Maison de la Radio (Paris).
Hans Rott serait peut-être complètement tombé dans l’oubli s’il n’avait été élève de la classe d’orgue d’Anton Bruckner et proche de Gustav Mahler, de deux ans son cadet. Il est à peine âgé de 20 ans quand il compose sa Symphonie en mi majeur entre 1878 et 1880. Par certains aspects, l’œuvre semble déjà annoncer celles de Mahler et évoque la musique de Wagner.
Malheureusement, son talent précoce n’a pas le temps de se développer. A peine sorti du Conservatoire, il essuie refus sur refus, ce qui n’est pas sans effet sur sa santé mentale. Hans Rott manifeste des premiers signes de folie dès 1880. Il passe la fin de sa vie dans une clinique psychiatrique à Vienne et meurt seulement âgé de 26 ans.
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[@adamcarolyn]

A forgotten gem by a composer who died far too young. Vale Hans.

[@bertramschworer4248]

Es ist wirklich sehr tragisch, dass Hans Rott mit nur 26 Jahren verstorben ist. Viele Zeitgenossen wie Mahler und auch Bruckner hatten sein Talent und seine Begabung schon rechtzeitig erkannt. Im Übrigen verwundert es mich, dass dieser einzigen Sinfonie von ihm, bis vor knapp 15 Jahren in der Konzertliteratur keine Beachtung geschenkt wurde.

[@forcedemodo]

Truthfully, Mahler used a lot of little things found in this symphony, and can be found in almost any work he did. For example, the third movement alone has some themes from Mahler's 1st, 5th, 7th, 9th, and 10th.

[@5610winston]

Rott was one of the most tragic figures of the late romantic period. This symphony is as good as the best written by any of his contemporaries, so similar to both Bruckner and Mahler. He destroyed much of his own work while in the mental institutions of his day. What he could have achieved if he had not been schizophrenic? We are so fortunate to have that portion of his music that did survive.

[@GermanShepherd1983]

Hans Rott was a very gifted genius who we lost far to early. The world is now finally appreciating what he did. Just wonderful

[@DavidCurrey4]

I was greatly pleased to find this live recording of what may be my favorite symphony. It simply amazes me how effortlessly Rott notches up the tension again and again without overdoing it, and how he writes extended passages without sounding long-winded. He is also a master of segueing around through tonal centers. Some of his wandering progressions resolve so perfectly, I can't help but smile. He writes well for all instruments. And such a masterful symphony written between about the ages of 20 and 22!

[@TheVaughan5]

Thank you so much, France Musique, for bringing us this symphony, unjustly neglected for so long but at last being appreciated for the great music it really is. Wonderful playing from the orchestra.

[@ClassicalRaritiesChannel]

Absolutely fantastic to see this beautiful symphony being performed, recorded and posted here in great quality, thank you so much!

[@wolfgangresch1650]

What a beautiful MASTERPIECE!!!!!!🙏🙏🙏🙏♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@bertramschworer4248]

Es bleibt für mich ein Rätsel, weshalb die Konzertliteratur des 20.Jahrhunderts dieses großartige Werk gleichsam vergessen konnte? Als ich dieses Werk zum ersten Mal gehört habe, war ich ergriffen von der kraftvollen Sprache dieser musikalischen Meisterleistung. Es ist schön, dass durch die mittlerweile zahlreichen Einspielungen der Name Hans Rott von nun an nicht mehr zu den vergessenen Musikern gehören wird.

[@jessemoog5310]

Es wurde nicht vergessen. Es war bloss nie bekannt. Uraufgeführt 1989.

[@hyseo1121]

It is so tragic that a composer who wrote such a fine symphony in full of optimistic mood eventually died so young in hospital.

[@not_a_coobadoo4904]

Only recently read about Hans Rott when reading about Mahler, a wonderful live performance, you'd have to wonder what could have been if this young man has not passed so early in life

[@francispanny5068]

I think that (A.) Each USA and other worldwide orchestras and the powers that be should watch this video and learn this symphony and play its heart out; and, (B) this conductor should make guest appearances with quite a few U.S. orchestras, big and medium names, and perform this symphony. I have a feeling more and more orchestras will want to jump on the Hans Rott bandwagon. It is that moving, towering, and overwhelming a symphony. Cannot stop crying each time I hear this work.

[@MrDSCH-ib2mx]

Very nice to see a live performance of this wonderful symphony!

[@amaralvieira2274]

C'est tout simplement merveilleux. La Symphonie de Hans Rott est une réalisation incroyable pour un compositeur de seulement 20 ans et l'interprétation par l'Orchestre Philharmonique de Radio France, dirigé avec beaucoup d'inspiration par Constantin Trinks, a mis en valeur chaque détail de cette composition fantastique. Bravissimo!!!

[@tulliusagrippa5752]

Brahms was right.

[@cyberfloat]

I think I'm right in saying Rott was Mahler's flatmate for a while, you can certainly hear where Mahler got a lot of his themes and ideas from!

[@tomstarzeck7137]

The scherzo in mahler's 1st

[@anandsamuel1978]

Till today have never heard of Hans Rott! It was by sheer accident I came across him! What a incredibly glorious symphony this one is! Deeply saddened that he died so young. Wonder what he could have accomplished if he had lived longer. What an amazing performance of this lovely symphony!

[@torealmgren3838]

I must say that I love this music and it is a shame that it has been neglected for so many years. Thank you Radio France for let us listen to this so well played by the Orchesra.

[@mitebee]

I love how the oboist blowing water out of a key at 2:04 is picked up on the recording.

[@DavidCurrey4]

Wow! I had to listen to it twice to hear that, and then a third time to make sure I heard it. It doesn't even mar the recording, though. :) When I was a trombonist in college bands, I tried to clear my water key quietly, but that oboist really went after that humidity problem full bore!

[@johnpugh3348]

A great version of this wonderful symphony so much ahead of its time, A gem.

[@francemusiqueconcerts]

Many thanks for your comment !

[@user-kw8dr5rl6o]

Listeninng of this symphony, I always feel the hopefull future of this world.

[@bowerdw]

I was entirely narrow minded and uninformed in my puny music education. At some level given what notes we accept as useful for music, the possibilities are broad for magnificent compositions. To believe that is/was limited to only a handful of "great" composers was narrow on my part. There is nothing wrong with this work. The only obstacle, whether one likes or not. I like it. It enriches my listening repertoire.

[@2alberich2]

That, Doug, is all that counts. It's a work that on repeated listening brings more and more rewards. Enjoy!

[@paullewis2413]

It wasn`t just your music education it was a general practice years back to virtually ignore many extremely gifted composers who were outside the ``accepted`` greats. I was looking at a ``Gramophone`` record catalogue from 1962 recently and was amazed at the omission of so many works that we can now hear and marvel at. The music world in those days was much more narrowly focused.

[@sergioazevedo7390]

It is soooo obvious that Mahler knew well this work and got some ideas from the scherzo and the beginning of the 4th movement for his own first symphony :) And what a glorious music this symphony is! The scherzo, by itself, is one of the best quick movements I ever heard from the whole symphony repertoire! No inferior to Mahler, and sometimes even better than Bruckner or Mahler. A great loss, no doubt! And, by the way, a marvelous performance, full, of energy! The best music here, for me, is the scherzo and the beginning of the 4th movement, but in the whole is a marvelllous work. A little less triangle and some more intervention of the woodwinds, plus here and there some changes in the string writing, due to lack of orchestral experience, and this would be perfect. For the young age of Rott, make us dream what the music lost with his death at 26...

[@danieljackson4266]

There are parts plagiarised directly from this in his work. He would be sued ftoday.

[@bomcabedal]

@@danieljackson4266 … in which case Brahms might file a claim against Rott for the passage at 44:07. I think it’s fairer to say that all three to some extent shared the same musical language, that (almost inevitably) led to similar results.

[@trueandika]

Cette symphonie mérite à être connue et jouée, vraiment. I Alla breve 00:37 II Sehr langsam (Très lent) 10:20 III Scherzo : frisch und lebhaft (Frais et animé) 22:13 IV Sehr langsam - Belebt (Très lent - Vif) 35:13

[@loicrenier7619]

Scherzo particulièrement échevelé et réussi dans le premier enregistrement de cette superbe symphonie digne de figurer dans toutes les discothèques et à l'affiche de nombreux concerts .

[@hugos5843]

This sends shivers done my spine. And a second dose of shivers when thinking of the tragic fate of Hans Rott. But thankful for this beautiful piece.

[@notaire2]

Wunderschöne und detaillierte Aufführung dieser großartigen und selten aufgeführten Sinfonie mit gut harmonisierten und perfekt synchronisierten Töne aller Instrumente. Der zweite Satz klingt besonders schön und fast himmlisch. Der geniale Dirigent leitet das ausgezeichnete Orchester im relativ langsamen Tempo und mit sorgfältig kontrollierter Dynamik. Echt wertvolle Onlinestellen!

[@rinosquarzoni9438]

Ottima sinfonia.Bravo Rott.

[@aaronnelson7104]

For anyone in search of the Mahler fountainhead.... this is it.

[@neuron73]

So great.

[@trueandika]

54:01 retour du thème du I aux cors, c'est épique, poignant, énorme. J'étais mal placé au premier rang, l'effet aurait pu être un peu plus imposant sur moi si j'avais pris de la hauteur, mais quand j'entends ces notes là, je fonds...

[@bernardfrouin6349]

J'étais en hauteur au premier balcon. C'était simplement parfait. On se demande pourquoi cette oeuvre majeure du répertoire symphonique n'est pas au programme de tous les grands orchestres. C'est incompréhensible. Merci au Philharmonique de Radio France de l'avoir intégrée.

[@othmareichenauer1372]

Danke für die Veröffentlichung dieser herrlichen Symphonie

[@mariobozzoni2438]

Eccellente unterpretazione e superlativa esecuzione. Niente altro da aggiungere.

[@harrymotus]

Excellente surprise, un troisième mouvement sublime, j'aurais aimé que Hans Rott puisse être plus apprécié.

[@nikodemus7777]

Hans Rott ist heute der Inbegriff eines Genies, das diese Welt in ihrer Einfalt nicht erkennen konnte... Ein großer Meister der Musikgeschichte!

[@verak.1690]

Grandios !!! Bravo !!!

[@TomboVersta]

Amazing, amazing....as an imperfect work can become a masterpiece. Yes, mistakes of youth, material to polish, but what a material! No matter the influences, no matter what Mahler did with the infinite ideas here present (thank you Mahler), it does not matter the imbalance of some instrumental families. What matters is the emotion, the sense of wonder, and the experience in which this music becomes. Pity of brass section...and what a pity what the world of music has lost ...

[@IFIP]

> it does not matter the imbalance of some instrumental families. I suspect that this is due to our modern instruments. Imagine this with historical brass and woodwind, gut strings, and someone really able to pull it off, maybe Jos van Immerseel. It may very well be that this symphony's instrumentation truly shines with historically informed orchestras. Unfortunatly, there are only a handful that play such a late repertoire.

[@mrlr1960]

Thank you so much for this brilliant and passionate version of a work (and a composer!) the world needs to know! 👏👏👏

[@kenkaye4659]

It makes you wonder if Mahler copied Hans Rott. Just listen to the third movement. It's good to see that this symphony is being performed.

[@forcedemodo]

In the first five minuets alone I heard a metric ton of Mahler motifs and liet-motifs from nearly every big work can think of. Rott was like a ghost stuck inside of Mahler's world of music, constantly poking it's head out.

[@JosiahofSilverton]

Rott and Mahler were good friends and classmates at the Vienna Conservatory. In the Mahler biography by Kennedy, it says that Mahler greatly admired Rott, and took plenty of inspiration from this piece in particular. This piece was panned by Brahms however for being derivative of both himself and Wagner. It's a shame that Rott died so young. Imagine the music we would have if he had lived and been anything like how Mahler turned out.

[@lucassanches-g3c]

"A Sinfonia em mi maior de Hans Rott é uma peça que não posso deixar de recomendar com todo o entusiasmo." Lauro Machado Coelho

[@alfacroma]

For all of you who read German it might be of interest to know that a novel about Hans Rott is to be released at the end of February 2019. www.picus.at/produkt/wie-man-ein-genie-toetet/

[@francispanny5068]

If only they had the English translation. I better study German left and right, LOL.

[@minka866]

​@@francispanny5068 it is easy to find English subtitles than other languages.

[@camilmoujaber4813]

Rott was discouraged and turned down by Brahms. Such was his fate...

[@dap4699]

Now it will be hard to me to like his music. Beethoven had quite a temper, but at least he wasn't such a moron as Brahms.

[@danielsimmons7970]

Brahms was not alone in rejecting this work back then. There was great division in those days--around 1880--between the followers of Wagner and those of Brahms.

[@paullewis2413]

Doesn`t say much for Brahms` intuition. We are hearing here after all, a symphony by a very young man (being somewhat uneven), however, Brahms was almost twice Rott`s age when he wrote his 1st symphony.

[@1mctous]

@@dap4699 Like Wagner, I can dislike Brahms the man yet love his music.

[@1mctous]

@@paullewis2413 It speaks to Brahms' insecurity as a man. Of course there are technical flaws but Rott's sheer originality and depth of imagination cannot be denied.

[@centrodedanzaluzcarolaossa9409]

Muy kinda la Sinfonía no la conocia gracias por compartirla

[@trueandika]

51:22 épique, nerveux !

[@kishorebajaj4353]

A one kind of symphonic creation. Superb+

[@slubert]

Mahler and him were students together right? You can tell.

[@franckmousset4022]

52:08 Magnifique accompagnement aux cors. Un compositeur médiocre l'aurait écrit pour les violoncelles.

[@franckmousset4022]

29:52 Eh oui, une valse. Autriche oblige.

[@uweaschmutat4575]

Eine ganz große Sinfonie ! Wie konnte man so was einfach vergessen ?

[@Egobaldo]

I'ts awesome! This symphony could have been written by the young Mahler (with more percussion and winds), especially certain parts of the last two movements.

[@gerhardg5186]

Maestro Trinks is impressive. Pity about the camera work (showing just some members of the orchestra over and over and ignoring the rest).

[@MusikMoebi]

Schade, daß Brahms statt des ersten Satzes nicht den vierten gehört hat. Da hätte er unter anderem ein sattes Streicherthema hören können, daß an den Schlußsatz seiner 1. Sinfonie erinnert.

[@nikodemus7777]

Das hätte Brahms Meinung vermutlich auch nicht ändern können...

[@torstenkohlschein9828]

Laut dem erwähnten Roman soll er es gehört und das ganze als Verhöhnung empfunden haben.

[@KyleAnimates]

44:04 this was def Hans Rott's major "f u" to Brahms for saying he has no talent and that he should give up music lol.

[@rusellthng7726]

To bad Hans was Rott-ing away by the age of 25. He could have made so much more gems if he lived to boomer age :(

[@chrisridenhour]

Rott would have been a second Mahler

[@pedroarcilla4825]

Maybe Mahler would have been a second Rott

[@robotkarel]

Creo que rott a veces usa orquestaciones demasiado densas. Me parece que le falta un poco de destreza en este aspecto. Comparese p. Ej. Con mahler.

[@Arglarglarg]

Bon pupitre de cor, sauf la soliste, qui ne sait pas mener le pupitre ... Il suffit de regarder 50:26 pour remarquer que le doubleur joue plus fort et mène mieux le pupitre que la soliste ... Dommage car les autres membres du pupitre sont remarquables !

[@PaulSmith-qs1es]

I feel like I'm listening to the overture to a Wagner opera.

[@Jeff-gi6dh]

I find it boring and repetitive. Like Mahler only in length. Only for Mahlerians who look for anything that reminds them of Mahler

[@contrebasson]

Strings are too often not together. Neither rhythms nor intonation.

[@jadseif8102]

C'est bien meilleur que les symphonies de Brahms...

[@flanor7540]

Je ne suis pas d'accord. Les symphonies de Brahms ont leurs propres caractéristiques et mérites. I disagree. Brahms' symphonies have their own characteristics and merits.

[@minka866]

Never!

[@marisalouisa4518]

Lovely music, but sadly marred by many brass off-notes.

[@mariomateus4135]

E quantos não foram vitimas com este. Hoje são os politicos a proceder desta forma.