Why this CHALLENGER is playing BARD TOP

[@HappyChimeNoises]

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[@kevinlee2606]

NO MORE TOP LANE OFF-META PLEASE!!! SOMETHING NEW!!! It's always roaming top with smite. Please give me something with no smite. It's not even off-meta anymore.

[@Yourmomismymom88]

@@kevinlee2606 his last smite top vid was a month ago it was a the Janna top right when it was starting.

[@williambalk1189]

it let players be truly creative and it gave riot a huge balanced headache your best joke so far XD🤣

[@neon_twister_]

i want one, but i live in peru :c

[@jonistmp8484]

@HappyChimeNoises, please can you made a video about zed jg (bruiser). There’s a LPL jungler (SOFM) who came from Vietnam and he create zed jungler from Vietnamese sever while in world 2021. After that, he play zed bruiser so effectively in LPL that even in the match between v5 vs WBG, they ban zed. Oh, and OMG tried using zed lethality jg but it failed hard.

[@Dabuin]

Oh no... I thought we would stop with Smite Janna Top... At this point, both teams should just stop sending people to Toplane at all and just play with double jungler, would be kinda the same xD

[@Shiodiodia]

LoL but midlane is replaced with more jungle

[@ToastySNXZ]

@@Shiodiodia imagine having a team of 3 smites and it's actually called "viable"

[@ryohei9027]

well at the very very beginning of league of legends people played a support in top and bot lanes so it actually make sense that if you play a support with smite top and a big carry in jungle you are more efficient but yeah honestly they should put 1 to 3 more minions in the top waves if they want to make it a separate part of the map ... or hell why not just remove the tier 1 top tower ? so it becomes a mess and top lane is actually a brawling area again where your aim is to smash your opponent and deny the jungler afterwards like the good old days :D

[@nicbuzas7783]

idk if you played way back, but double jungling was a thing for a bit, it was insane.

[@yaheki]

There were double jungler, smite mid and actual smite support before. This time, smite top works because it literally is hacking the bounty system.

[@VarsVerum]

Guys… it’s finally happened.. THE HAPPY CHIME NOISES CHAMPION HAS FINALLY MADE IT ONTO A VIDEO!… at the expense of my Elo 😭😭

[@user-ts3sn7mj4h]

@@gio7469 agreed

[@gandahk416]

Hi Vars.

[@youtubegoose7021]

They took why top lane is the most useless lane too personally

[@gio7469]

@@youtubegoose7021 nah we need video on this smite shit

[@markantez8224]

I started watching both Vars and HCN at the same time, I’m starting to believe they’re the same person doing an accent at this point. What a good KZbin duo queue pair.

[@nischalthapa2460]

"Its giving Riot a balancing headache, so its a complete success" One of my favriote lines now.

[@koxacbka]

worst case scenario: riot will ban ability to take 2+ smites. (like it were in nexus war mode). also they're nerfing the 2+ support items in 1 team strategy in one of next patches...

[@viket8316]

they cant ban double smite it will literally nerf spellbook or just make anyone get smite first for troll riot should be proud people making new strategies instead of get angry like gragas jungle and graves jungle was called trolling until riot fucking aprove was an amazing idea

[@koxacbka]

@@viket8316 well..technically they can do it. and they were always very-very meta-headed. (i even remember when they gave a warning on some tournament to a player for picking annie on adc role). ps:iirc graves were released as a jungler. wdym he has considered troll pick? on the other hand carthus was a troll pick before season 4 or 5 (when someone on pro scene took him and then suddenly it became normal)

[@theokayguy360]

@@koxacbka wasn't graves a bot laner on release?

[@koxacbka]

@@theokayguy360 well...maybe you're right. it was 10 years ago abd he didn't even had a reload mechanics then. i definitely remember that everyone played him as top or jungle after rework though.

[@Polypuff]

IT'S CHIME TIME

[@boiya9327]

LETS GOOOOO CHIME POG

[@bliz548]

IT'S BARD'S CHIME TO SHINE!!

[@resselefpa]

Happy Chime Noises ;)

[@ExposingOreo]

GO POLY!

[@zardon_zane1630]

make a video about it

[@HuyBui-mx6ee]

This is probably THE play style Riot wanted Bard to have when they decided to create him

[@prometheus2395]

I‘m sure riot thought „hey, let‘s make a champion for speedrunning the game“

[@getitinohio2926]

I see what u done did there...

[@WashingtonFernandes]

true

[@khaledyasser8293]

Top mains have been complaining that the role has no impact for years. Finally this is proof. You’re literally more likely to win by having no one in top......

[@prithiviflippinvoodoo4852]

This could be the meta the new age of smite top lane lol 😆

[@supremebohnenstange4102]

It's called a team game lol

[@Baba_Lemonade]

What do you mean? The team that has the Smite Janna Top has the higher chance of winning. That's the highest impact they've had in years!

[@deadlyapple8333]

@@Baba_Lemonade exactly what hes saying, smite janna top doesnt stay toplane, she roams! he's saying that you have a better chance of winning if nobody goes toplane

[@samueledemartini1000]

@@Baba_Lemonade at that point, u r not playing top, u r playing a second jgl

[@gabrielmarques6465]

the main problem for Riot about this strategy is that exposes some of their more questionable desing choices since it was made to fix them. Toplane has no agency in the game, and most times doesn't even feel like tops are playing league; Supports are way too much gold efficient because the game was designed for them to win no gold at all; Inversly to Top, Jungle has way too much agency and it's the role that calls for the most ammount of plays in a game (specially in pro play); And finally Objective Bounties and Unleashed Teleport were stupid ass deicisions made to try and slow down thee game they've been pushing to be faster for the last 5~6 years. So of course that a strategy that uses all of the above broke the game, it was designed like so.

[@CoqueiroLendario]

exactly, Riot tried using too many bandaids to fix a broken building, but it still crumbled down.

[@kijan97]

Obviously objective bounties are in a bad place rn, but the teleport change was a necessary and healthy change imo. It simply is the most powerful spell in the game and giving access to unleashed tp in the early game made any kind of early playmaking a total guessing game since one random ward nearby can ruin any plan. The lack of counterplay made tp change long overdue.

[@shacolin6546]

That's the third year Riot's been slowing the game down though. The difference in season 9 to season 12 is like day and light. 4 of the last 5 jungle releases (including reworks) are powerfarming scaling junglers, enchanters have never been that dominant since Ardent Censer meta and Riot's been doing everything in their reach to make the game more forgiving and disencourage playmaking. Mobi Boots was murdered cold blooded years ago and was left to rot. From great for supports, good for junglers and viable for mid laners, its now trolling outside hook champs. Riot made changes to how mid lane minion waves work to make roaming weaker. Riot has reduced the experience from kills and given free homeguard for players who died, so plays are less rewarding for players doing it and less punishing for the players caught out. Objective Bounties and Unleashed Teleport were stupid ass decisions and support itens are way too gold efficient. Just want to reiterate that.

[@holyleech2159]

@@kijan97 Unleashed Teleport was a overall good decision in a world where top has agency, but now with no tele, top lost its last piece of agency

[@bulletcola7890]

The objective bounties mainly happen because of CS. Who knows how much it would change if that specific part was removed.

[@thecolor3]

The issue with the strategy is that it shows how useless toplane is following the tp nerf. It is more effective to nearly ignore top and give free farm than it is to lane on an island

[@psyjinx]

Thanks for the Manscaped ad, but I'm trying an off-meta full bush. Scales well into the late game when you don't get laid anymore.

[@jaygged6472]

Bro that build is obsolete now that league players passively get the incel buff at lvl 11

[@timothykeller9419]

@@jaygged6472 im dying

[@BoogerFace_]

So the off-metas are becoming...... metas. Great.

[@colddorito]

Good, the meta was boring before.

[@dankmemer258]

@@colddorito this is the most unskilled meta for toplane there is

[@AgentYellowWang]

@@dankmemer258 as if counter pick meta fun at least enemies get to feel the power but take the responsibility of carry the game or they themselves chose to follow the roamer to counter it.

[@colddorito]

@@dankmemer258 despite the fact that all of the happy chime noises videos on these strategies have been in depth on why they take skill and why these players are where they are? The role got fucked up by riot so don't blame the playerbase for coming up with this. At least people have map awareness now

[@markramiro4354]

The meta slaves saying that the game boring.. oh the irony..

[@bobqinxd]

smite top changed my life this is the funnest strat i've ever played

[@koki-1700]

Whenever i saw support toplaners getting popular i wondered where bard was, hes THE roaming champion

[@wuj0-themanthemyththelegen856]

I LOVE IT. FINALLY, AFTER MONTHS OF MENTAL ABUSE FROM MY TEAM, BECAUSE I PLAYED IVERN TOP WITH SMITE, NOW IS MY TIME TO SHINE. SMITE TOP RULES AND SUPPORT SMITE TOO. I LOVE IT CHIME I LOVE YOU.

[@SiegerFCN]

Riot next patch: "We saw that you guys hate this strat - and so do we. We nerf..."

[@jackcanox4015]

Yeah hahaha it's disappearing next patch so...F

[@stophackingmygoogleaccount3886]

i mean, it did deserve a nerf though

[@mozkuthehermit5909]

This strat won't dissapear anytime soon, knowing riot's balance team they will fuk up like usually. It will be either azir/aureriol nerf out of nowhere or they somehow buff 4 waifus of top lane while nerfing bruiser items yet again, so yea don't stop learning this strat because it is more common than you can imagine.

[@kroqh4863]

The nerfs have already been confirmed and it is rip to the strat

[@HappyChimeNoises]

Last smite top video for now friends. Next week back to crazy never seen before off meta. I saved a good one trust me

[@pulswolf3365]

I am a Bard Support Main and i started playing him top after I saw your Janna Top Video because i thought his kit would have great synergy with that playstyle. I actually had great success with that strategy and i am happy that there is an actual guide for runes etc. now.

[@patatos879]

ey mate good luck on your games enjoy :>

[@palaz7417]

Same here. After have heard of Janna top I wondered which other champ could do that and Bard came to my mind because is a roaming champ by definition!

[@antoanmerkov6058]

I just hope this don't get him nerfed

[@pulswolf3365]

@@antoanmerkov6058 I dont think He gets nerfed. The Roaming top strat will probabaly get nerfed, but Not Bard as a champ

[@antoanmerkov6058]

@@pulswolf3365 true but in the worst case they'll nerf his passive again

[@raxi9619]

Seems to me that even after Riot nerfs roaming supports Bard might still remain solid w/ this playstyle. Good vid!

[@Caelio]

Riot : "How about we rework Teleport so top laners don't have too much agency who wins bot ?" The players : "Oh no... Anyway."

[@tonythepony2697]

one way of "nerfing" the roaming top strategies would be to actually make standard top lane impactful. nerfed teleport does not really help this case either...

[@MaximumSpice]

I think one of the coolest thing about these strats it shows how many people just auto pilot and dont think. They just play the same shit for 8 years and don't wanna deal with some new weird strat but it makes sense, its fun to play and team fights happen waaaay earlier which is also much more fun.

[@DylanPope-zp6go]

Has there been a high elo game with two smite roaming top laners? If a game like that exists I'd actually love to see a game analysis

[@egirlvanilla5504]

The GP main, the most famous one had video how to counter it lately, dont remember his name but if you search otp GP itsbsurely top one channel :)

[@ohneko]

I believe Lourlo uploaded one of those

[@Xeractyll]

"It broke toplane, it broke botlane, and even broke jungle" Midlane has always been jungle and support diff. Now its top diff too? That's something.

[@JamFlexx]

people saying [role] diff / gap was the worst thing to happen to league not sure what popularized it, but I came back from a long break and its just normalized toxicity we used to say gg, ggwp, etc.

[@manflutewarrior]

@@JamFlexx everyone can already see the kda, we can tell when someone had a bad game. So not only is it pointless to say it but it's like they say it just to make somebody feel bad.

[@justinchan8179]

Just few hours before, bard top is picked in PCS region DCG vs JT and they won.

[@hamburger9890]

“Bard now leaves top lane and never return” Ah yes just like my father buying milk

[@nicobruno9062]

Hopefully In few days this “strategy “ will dissppear and top lane will be back as should be before Duelist, juggernauts and tanks fighting each other

[@campionedi1764]

@Wasabi Gaming rito is nerfing support item again. Less minions with it earlier on for the first 5 minutes, objective bounties will be halved if there’s 2 or more support items on the team, objective bounties linger around for less time, and cs bounties adjust based on number of support items so top lane will get no bounty or less bounty on their heads when their opposing top laning support roams

[@cyberrhino5118]

Sad that this is getting nerfed patch, was a lot of fun to try all of these out. Its funny how you litterly made this so popular that its just one of the best picks (any smite support top)

[@mozkuthehermit5909]

nah this gameplay strat won't dissapear anytime soon if you have known riot's balance team. They will somehow fuk it again and top lane will more deserted than ever, it will be either azir/aureriol nerf out of nowhere or they somehow buff 4 waifus of top lane

[@HappyChimeNoises]

If you watch through the video you will learn that this nerf will not stop smite top laners

[@mozkuthehermit5909]

@@HappyChimeNoises exactly, we will see new form of roaming top laners real soon

[@Doge-bz3vj]

I still remember back when people complain that Riot force player to play only specific way/role or else it counts as a troll and then get ban Now we don't even have top lane anymore lmao

[@PlanADidntWorkOut]

Lourlo's a beast, his decision making really is next level

[@Erik-pu4mj]

Sylas support has been fun, and now you're taking Bard support--one of my core bois--and giving it new life. Hell yeah, Chime. Hell yeah.

[@TheAdrianM98]

HAPPY CHIMES NOISES INTENSIFIES

[@BronzeAnalystTM]

This "thing" existing and some people still have the nerve to say bruisers are op, and the worse is riot keeps nerfing the living shit of their items. Like why the fuck are bruiser items losing hp to give more damage? They are supposed to take sustained fights not 1 shot burst or be bursted.

[@lolmanboss]

Riot Nerfs TP Smite top players: Fine i'll walk myself. Support items broke the game, AGAIN. Remember the midlane Runic echo + Frostqueen? Damn That powerspike was unbeatable.

[@Trenii]

I like how Riot encourages us to try and find our style of playing the game, with different runes, items, strategies, but then once one finds something they nerf it. Cool company.

[@valorant.shitpost_gaming]

You forgot to add "/s"

[@Levi_The_One_The_Only]

11:29 the true bard experience

[@TehLazerPikle]

bard is one of the best champs, hands down, his kit allows him to do everything in the game with any play style

[@zacharyadler4071]

The counterplay is small but important: If you are top take demolish to push fast, also pick a hard scaling champion. If you are jungle, also start topside so you can countergank the botside plays

[@eqhd2901]

not what i wanted to see before bed. nightmare fuel

[@grigorynesvijevski1351]

Hi ! Have you ever tryed a Vi lethality mid ? I find it oustandingly powerful as an assassin and ganks are easy to set up. Does it have potential at high elo ? I play in low plat

[@Endymion0021]

Playing a lot vs roaming tops is just disheartening, when you play a normal top laner, you get a "free" lane but still struggle to crush the tower and without atleast one item you suck at teamfighting due to their roamer getting their "support" item rank ups for free and usualy having better cc options, which makes the whole situation even less fun, But I see the value they put in the game, just adapting to play against them or to learn it myself takes more time than I can put in at the moment.

[@AdmiralVortex]

Most reasonable take I've seen so far

[@AgentYellowWang]

See roaming sp > take demolishes.

[@AgentYellowWang]

@@damour3317 tell your bot after their first death change lane and they will be playing same strats but on top taking herald push when enemies take dragon.

[@AgentYellowWang]

@@damour3317 or you responding to it by recall with that roaming sp go bot wait if he decides to go in you will be there counter it or if he not there then just gank bot.

[@pascalhinterleitner8809]

Truly, a "Happy Chime Nioses" moment

[@somasaasaa4850]

Is there a match where Janna top meets yuumii top? I would love to see that

[@bqggy0_0]

welcome to season 12 where top laners are going mid lane and supports are going top with smite

[@hotlinekrapfen]

the real miracle of this strat is that at least one toplaner is having fun and actually play the game and not an isolation chamber simulation

[@sjafi]

I'll be sad when they kill this next week, but I am hopeful we adapt. Even with the nerfs, you're losing out on a lot of passive gold but still gain a roaming Bard for play making. At least Twitch Top will still be valuable. Spell thief is nice on him, but he can definitely function without it.

[@Zertryx]

Twitch top will still work because most of the time you are so ahea din kills that the top laner never gets a bounty anyways, and you just win purley off you and your bot snowballing too fast

[@napolermo1457]

Can this strat be countered with a top laner with very strong waveclear? Or is the impact of the roaming too strong for it to even matter?

[@JohnSmith-gk8vd]

You need someone good as split push who can destroy the ennemy turret pretty fast : jax and go with their passives are a good example of it

[@gabrielpoole7292]

The issue is within the bounty system. When the top takes so many tower plates and CS , they get a kill bounty for having more gold than the opposing top laner. However, that gold disparity is caught up in jungle and bot and mid where you roam around getting all those ahead. And furthermore now you can collapse and kill the 0/0/0 top laner with a 300gold bounty for even more gold for your other lanes. Ths strat literally just shows 2 things. 1) the bounty system is flawed 2) top lane is flawed

[@AgentYellowWang]

@@gabrielpoole7292 doesn’t matter if you ahead in two item and 3 level ahead of enemies carry.

[@hisoka6272]

Riot nerfs tp to keep players top lane, so players just stop going top entirely

[@X33Ultras0und]

I feel like the support changes will not really affect Bard because of the chimes. More everyone else. The bounties being weaker will affect everyone though, so you actually have to play near to perfect otherwise you remain even for too long. And the enemy will just split push. Too many people are not realising that riot has not balanced Hull breaker for ranged champions. If you give that item to a Vayne, who can really stop her? She won't get bursted by assassins, (especially if she builds a randuins for ad or wits end for AP) tanks will get kited and not deal enough damage to bypass her healing from immortal shield bow, and fighters like Yone have to play perfect or she can turn it around. I built it 4th item on xayah once, due to all the splitpushing I was 2 levels up on the enemy mid talon, and survived Talon's R, Caitlyn's R and Vel'koz's full combo all with just hullbreaker and guardian angel. And I didn't save my R for Caitlyn's either, I tanked all physical damage and only used my own ultimate to dodge a bit of Vel'koz's R damage as he hit his knock back ability on me.

[@tender0828]

As a Bard main, denying rift herald love bumps always feels satisfying

[@kraftyevan]

I always remember Lourlo as the guy who lost to a singed who did nothing

[@thiertt4269]

The thing that needs to be fixed is Toplane. There is simply no objective. The teleport changes limited the impact even more, so it became more efficient to just gank and group.

[@slippers8000]

It's such a tricky problem, having 2 players bot and ofc dragon makes it a priority since you can cash in on doubles/triples with jungler. Even if you decide to put the stronger objective top you'd just have the duo lane go there instead.

[@manflutewarrior]

@@slippers8000 I think it would be interesting though if after so many years of having the duo lane bot it became reversed and the duo lane was top.

[@slippers8000]

@@manflutewarrior it'd just be the same thing really, the duo lane will always have priority close to the strongest objective. Meaning bot would just turn into the low prio solo lane. I'd say roaming top is more interesting, you can see how the devs have been pushing it to this point with tankier early towers and ofc the tp change. I wonder how they'll combat it, it's funny how they whip top laners into such low early macro potential they end up leaving it.

[@battlebots1]

I don't know if the analytics suggest a change needs to be made, but I'll just say that when I saw the thumbnail/title I thought "oh it's just the same as Janna top, no need to watch" 30 seconds in I'm glad I clicked anyway because this description of a pro player perfecting the roaming top strat is something super interesting to me

[@jonathankearney2793]

As a Dota fan, I have to say that the presence of a committed roaming support is something that the game is very much designed around. There are certainly ways to balance this play style in mobas although adapting the role as the top lane, which should ideally have the second largest exp and presence next to mid is an awkward spot

[@Lourlo]

Awesome vid, we love HappyChimeNoises

[@FeelTheBlaziker]

Literally the first game of the new PCS (Southeast Asia Pro League) season and DCG's mid-laner played Bard top with guardian keystone and smite, and won with a score of 3/1/9. With a 300g bounty, no less.

[@idanaay5266]

yes!! an actual example of something i've wanted to play since janna top started!

[@years-ti7xl]

Lourlo? Haven't heard that name in a very long time. Man imagine if he was still a pro he'd be pulling these out trying to out do LS' crazy drafts.

[@bendystrawz2832]

Riot: okay, no more early tp. Too many people camping bot. Top Laners: fine, I'll _walk_ down and buy a condo. Riot: *surprised pikachu face

[@ToastySNXZ]

The only thing that can complete this now Is if polypuff actually use this on ladder

[@dddmemaybe]

4:11 this part is great hahahha

[@gazlowexd9078]

I like the way you put ramon el ruedas in Spain, very fitting.

[@murpl1462]

Toplaners can do so little without teleport now. I like the idea of making the game less reliant on botlane, but riot probably has to revert the teleport change.

[@anthonysimons2001]

Hey Chime Noises! Not sure if you're still doing smite-top videos, but I found a challenger player playing AP Nunu in toplane with Smite in one of King Nidhogg's games. His name is Gojo Wakana on NA server, and I think he's pretty neat!

[@manness3040]

The fact that I used Bard top HoB with smite without having even the slightest idea that this guy exists is funny. Bard HoB is really good, works even in Jungle

[@flexo5895]

idk why nunu top with smite hasn't seen the popularity yet which he deserves. You are safe with the built-in sustain, u can always do objectives because u can actually tank it even when your karthus decides to catch topwave. Your ganks are always sums or kill or both when the wave is in the middle or further to your tower, and you are extremely safe with phase rush. You also scale pretty good to a tank. dives are also easy to execute with the q healing, movement speed and the r shield. The main advantage nunu has over enchanters is that you can solo setup ganks even if you have an enchanter supp and smth like a shyvana. Also, your cc makes the enemy toplaner useless later on. I recommend you to have a few nunu games to know the limits of the champ. Id love to know Happychimenoises opinion about it

[@SenorFluffy]

The year is 2024, Riot releases the first dedicated Smite Toplaner.

[@user-pr1dh2bw6k]

Roaming support toplaners may be more than just an annoying playstyle, it might be an entirely new metagame developing thanks to an alternative strategy. I'm not sure if Rito will be able to effectively root it out without having to make massive changes to toplane as a role (So that it isn't an island anymore), but I kind of want to see what will be built to counter those strategies, too.

[@danielgromann2501]

Tbh its just what position 5 supports do in higher elo in dota2

[@Sadmat7]

its getting nerfed next patch already, check out spellthief and bounty system changes.

[@user-pr1dh2bw6k]

@@Sadmat7 It's nerfed, but that doesn't mean it won't remain a pretty strong playstyle. The changes were highlighted in the video, too.

[@phantore9237]

any chance you could do a video on bruise graves jg. seen goredrinker deaths dance black cleaver been built by a few pros in solo q and wondered what makes it better than just going say a xin or lee with the same build

[@prometheus2395]

At this point it‘s basically a League of Legends speedrun

[@snajsbsushs5156]

I knew someone would have done this with bard

[@lubue5795]

I'm honestly conflicted about this strategy. On the one hand it's a really cool and innovative way to play the game that leaves your opponent completly lost on what they should do. But on the other, it's really unhealthy and pretty similar to things like tank Ekko and tank Fizz. Not to forget that it really sucks for all top lanes mains who suddenly have to basically ignore everything they ever knew about their role and play like a purely roaming support if they wanna win.

[@toastedmarshmallow6474]

The last part isnt so bad and not necessarily unhealthy and i feel like just how we got split push champs we should get roaming top champs

[@cryofwill1416]

The stategy to win against this thing it simple, do not take the top tower and just focus on last hitting. Pick nasus, Kayle, shen, gp, trynda, trundle, illaoi, Jax, and you're ready to go. What you don't want it's to open the top lane, and if you do it you are screwed since you can't farm anymore. So the stategy is based on power farming the lane and base often. Rotate or help botlane and you are going to be ok.

[@AgentYellowWang]

@@cryofwill1416 or just open top then use the gold open mid then 1v5

[@Circu_ch]

HappyChimeNoises I just want to say that these guides are really fun but are these off meta picks can be used in low elo players as well?

[@HappyChimeNoises]

I would not recommend bard top for low elo. The non smite tops can all be played low elo, I recommend it!

[@Circu_ch]

@@HappyChimeNoises ooooh i see aight aight thanks a lot! The akshan jungle really helped me climbed tho so yeah thanks for that

[@Nightmare-fe9hr]

Man, remember nubrac? That was a thing that happened

[@CLxJames]

I think a change needs to be made to the defense towers get in the first 5 minutes (or whatever it is) This roaming top bs needs to be punishable. Taking the first tower in 6 minutes or so would be nice. The game shouldn’t be in a state where someone can just ignore their lane for the entire game

[@fujisyusuuke1709]

What about for the first tier tower, there should be a debuff if theres no champion around to defend it. Hmmm???

[@user-sb1pz4he4t]

@@fujisyusuuke1709 i don't think it'd work cause... Bounties. The support item gives the top laner the gold he needs and with such a cheap support build you have more impact in the game than your enemy top-laner cause 1. You help the other lanes 2.you get bounties and there is a chance HE will get a shutdown bounty The more gold advantage you have the more you provide to your enemies. And champ are effected different with the items they get and gold they get, so by nerfing the tower, you basicly give extra gold to the enemy team when you destroy it, its stupid but that's the way riot trash balance team work

[@fujisyusuuke1709]

@@user-sb1pz4he4t true, but as i see it, if u can push tower faster than the "smite toplane" affect other lanes then, the top laner who stays in lane can also apply pressure even at early game, this way, u force enemy team to defend it.. i mean sure they can get ahead in gold, but bounties only affects around mid game. Imagine, being level 3 or 4 and u can break 1st tier tower, buy ur items THEN roam

[@user-sb1pz4he4t]

@@fujisyusuuke1709 High risk, low reward situation, either the top laner is a tank, so this much gold pretty much is useless cause no-one will focus him, or its a browler and even if hes fed, the enemy jungler will probably fed too, and with rest of the team can either avoid him or gank up on him when hes splitting. I think its a lose-lose scenario, the smite top 's team has more vision, the carries getting most of the gold and probably they know how to use it in their advantage. Yeah the top laner gets 2-3K more gold, but the enemy team uses their gold more efficiently. I think the way to nerf it is to either rework the support item, or force the supports to buy vision again

[@emmanuelbravo1436]

Been thinking about the roaming smite top. I feel like lane swapping would help a lot with this. It seems like creating a gap between the bot lane is a big factor, and the top diff doesn't make as big a difference. This would force the roaming top laner to leave the swapped botlane top to freefarm. Interested to see how this would play out

[@lunal3blanc]

HappySmiteNoises Thanks for the videos as always, Chime

[@GoDUsopp-gk2fx]

My moment finally has come

[@zahafhichem8860]

i always considered Bard the best candidate for roaming top, he even get exp for not laning.

[@ZakBaker0412]

Knew it was Lourlo before I clicked haha

[@koray1621]

In this rate off meta gonna become meta's itself

[@DedikateSSB]

I know people hate it but i love these top lane strats, actually makes top lane useful early game.

[@Vitusdex]

Yes, because there is no lane

[@yudoball]

More junglers = more fights = more fun I think riot should embrace this meta

[@N_orte]

"has to constantly use logic" is that a new rune?

[@offlineraided]

Roaming top lane is used in Wild Rift alot too

[@galladebutcooler8645]

"By the end of this video, you will never think about League Of Legends in the same way". "But first, let's shave our balls together, shall we?"

[@JEAFlashSword]

This intro is so PERFECT xd

[@omikura]

Next week we will have bard top in competitive

[@Xanderqwerty123]

The ad segment proves that he refers to his "package" as chime.

[@tobedeleted2030]

So around 4:33 you mentioned if enemy doesn't push bard has hail of blades and autos enemy then uses other 2 autos to push the wave ..what if enemy like attacks bard and wipes their health bar forcing him to reset or fall back ? Wouldn't minion dematerializer be better iof the purpose is just for fast wave clear ?

[@HappyChimeNoises]

Dematarialiser doesn't unlock til like 5 min I think so wouldn't work. Bard is a ranged top so he decides when the trade starts and ends - that's why people dislike playing Vs them You can't reach him to wipe his health bar if he positions will like this challenger

[@tobedeleted2030]

@HappyChimeNoises makes sense thanks for clarifying 👍

[@herobayer8006]

Since the Janna top video I was thinking about playing Bard top but didn't really try it. Now this happens. Guess I have to play it!

[@Josh-99]

I don't agree that this playstyle should be removed. LoL should not have fewer strategy options, especially since PvP games like this get "solved" over time and there needs to be strategies that teams can pull out of their pocket to shake things up, otherwise you never get those champ select moments where the casters say "OMG They are trying THAT strategy?! This is going to be a spicy game!" Yes, it's likely a bit overpowered right now, but that can be resolved with pinpoint nerfs and ACTUAL SUPPORT for the strategy. There should be more items that encourage roaming, which will force BOTH teams to think about how they play instead of falling into the standard 1/1/2/Jungle setup. Set up counter-strategies, like having the bottom lane play REALLY safely while the top and jungle take a free early tower -- perhaps even both towers, completely taking over the top side of the map and making life difficult for the roaming top's jungler (I don't know if it would work, I'm just highlighting a potential counter-strategy). I remember when League was played in a 2/1/2 setup because jungling was basically impossible. In the very early days, jungle camps were LETHAL to most Level 1 champions. But when people started to figure out how to jungle, there was a huge backlash against it -- many players didn't like the idea of a member of the opposing team constantly being out of vision and a top laner getting solo gold and experience. Riot didn't just encourage this style of play, they provided support for it, and it completely changed the game. The concept of lanes that perma-roam may seem strange and even toxic right now, but we could be looking at another shift in how the game is played.

[@AriFrozen]

The entire Riot balance team shivers the moment you drop a new video.

[@MurasakiPhoenix]

Well here comes the next "strategy" that'll probably be non-stop

[@CometCafe]

This playstyle is in PCS, which being picked by a team called Deep Cross Gaming and they actually won

[@bababoye1382]

and here it is my favorite lane with my favorite champion

[@austencoldiron9739]

It’s somewhat hilarious watching this as a 4 month twitch sub to lourlo since I followed him back in 2020

[@teohzhenxin5502]

bout so see some bards in my games now💀

[@JDHDBAHSUUZUX]

Is the bg music from phonopath?

[@hiiambarney4489]

So what you are saying is that there is a new Meta evolving around overloaded Support kits that basically deal away with top lane in order to play a support for jungle?

[@hamzaouiahmed7578]

I already knew it, i was just waiting

[@PaperDevil]

Sick production quality :O