HAPTIC Full Body Trackers in VRCHAT: AXIS

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[@donutey]

Lighthouse tracking has some negatives, but after watching videos on IMU trackers it really makes me appreciate how little setup is required for Vive or Tundra trackers. Hopefully the Vive Ultimate trackers will have that advantage too.

[@AZREDFERN]

The “small calibration errors” is mostly the rotation of the earth. That’s been a problem since the beginning of oceanic navigation, until the GPS era eliminated the need for a navigator on every commercial aircraft. Gyroscopes do drift, but they’re also accurate enough to stay in the position they were before rotating around the Earth. I think realistically since they’re not on a ship or airplane, the developers nearly eliminate this problem by entering your coordinates.

[@boomlikeham]

Babe wake up tavho posted

[@Gloomy_Dayzz]

I have a little tip with trackers for users that aren’t sure the difference between tracking solutions: IMU = Rotation Camera = Position Lighthouse = Rotational/Positional I hope this helps a little bit!”

[@dilemma3787]

I like your voice as this character. Also like the little half squeeze gesture or whatever when you have your fur suit paws describing stuff haha.

[@FoxCDN]

great review, honest and informative thank you!!!

[@CerealBowlSystem]

You could probably use SlimeVR with your owoTracker phone at the same time as the AXIS just to emulate a hip tracker

[@mageenderman]

BonelessVR did that in their video :p

[@TahvoStudio]

Yes, although I don't like the idea of running two disconnected IMU models. Maybe we'll see these up and running with SlimeVR soon.

[@mageenderman]

@@TahvoStudio Same problem I have with my HaritoraX 1.1 people have suggested using owo track and slime for hip with it but it just feels off since it's not actually using it

[@quarz_124]

i love the little thing under your avatars eye

[@Snitchie]

So cool that we are getting more options

[@reddeaddragon]

Been waiting for someone to cover Axis! We desperately need more choices for FBT and it’s exciting to see these be developed

[@Beam3178]

It's cool that it also does haptics though! We need more trackers that can do that

[@ODISeth]

I love that these don’t need a mess of wires like the HaritoraX does, buuuuut at the cost of such a low battery life… I don’t think I’m ready for that yet

[@TahvoStudio]

To be fair, the lower end of the battery life is due to the haptics and can be disabled.

[@ODISeth]

@@TahvoStudio Oh! Is the 4 hours of life you showed on screen with or without haptics? Cause if that’s with haptics and they last longer without, theeeeen I can see them being worth it

[@SDT493]

To whoever is reading this.. you deserve a hug! *hug* ;3

[@zecfae9453]

Awww thanks

[@Noa15Lv]

I might stick to the oldies n get extra 2.0's, 3.0's in future. [For knees or elbows]

[@IorekByrnison086]

These are so cool. Thanks for the info. Will think about these. Keep up the great job. Great video.

[@dakotareighard7627]

I have the 9 node kit and use a phone to track my hips and it works very well

[@BrandonCroker]

This is epic

[@senpai_mangue6141]

5/6 trackers seems ideal.

[@TahvoStudio]

If anyone wants it, I've put out a VRCOSC Module for the haptics in VRCHAT. github.com/TahvoDev/AxHaptics

[@iiraingirlii]

Very cool :3

[@geoffreyprecht2410]

Haptic trackers are a good idea, but the Axis software just doesn't look as robust as SlimeVR. I'd love to see you revisit this later when they've added the planned features!

[@user-nz9zn2ne3n]

Your avatar in the best

[@InternationalSpaceExplorations]

Tahvo, do a video about Pico motion trackers

[@exodous02]

I have light houses but every time I go to order Tundra Trackers they're out of stock. IMUs have the advantage of being able to be taken places to show them off. I wouldn't want to set up lighthouses

[@Big6C]

they have bno085 imus

[@vellcore]

aye bro you better show me those hands instead of hiding behind those pretty paws lil bro

[@Redbird45]

Hey quick question, what’s the best way to clean the lenses of your headset? I’ve been using a microfiber cloth but I don’t really think that’s a good idea since I’m worried about trapped debris that in the cloth scratching my lenses

[@TahvoStudio]

Copied from Oculus Support: Use a dry optical lens microfiber cloth to clean your headset lenses. Don’t use liquid, alcohol-based or chemical cleansers. Starting from the center of the lens, gently wipe the lens in a circular motion moving outwards.

[@mageenderman]

Is the OSC router you setup available to download anywhere?

[@bluethebun7848]

Are these similar to the slimes in that they require a good 2.4ghz wifi connection in order to maintain tracking? I have some DIY slimes that work great when there is a stable connection, but I do not really know the best way to improve my 2.4ghz connection as the router is a distance away, so I am faced with horrible disconnecting issues.

[@Kevin-beer]

Will you please also someday talk about the VRChat Group "Loli Police Department"? I mean, you are a VRChat KZbinr after all and I think, for a Group this big it doesn't get enough attention.

[@toabrony]

I met you yesterday in vrchat furry hideout and you look familiar and I know why

[@user-xl4np5kf5m]

Tahov I’m not sure if I should buy light houses or imus but also money is no problem if I’m going to buy light houses

[@gerardniks3636]

OSC support is done, vrchat intergration in the making

[@masterofrealms907]

Man I wish I could get this stuff but don't have the money for it

[@mysteryofthephoenix978]

Wish it was on quest only

[@primaldragon240]

Question do you make avitars?

[@Shotzla]

Dude how on earth did you and Boneless released similar videos on the same date?

[@ferluisch]

Whenever I see a product like this, if it is more expensive than a quest 2 then why bother :/ . Hopefully the release a "lite" version in the future. Just like pico fitness trackers

[@christiangirl7777]

Can I friend you on vrchat

[@homelessrobot]

IMO hip tracking is 99% of the rest of full body tracking. Sometimes i want precise knee/elbow tracking, never gave a shit about precise foot tracking.The hip is the pivot around which almost all body language revolves. Simple shit like nodding your head is better with one hip tracker

[@cyberboy9550]

How do we get those for free?

[@cyberboy9550]

$350 is WAY too much for any trackers

[@Blozk917]

Hi

[@Tentha_4176]

Hoe does different ranks work in VRchat form visitor to trusted user?

[@crimsom2977]

what IMU's are in these?

[@frostiefops]

they don't say on their website but i'm guessing BNO085's or similar as they are the most popular 9dof IMUs (also the same ones used in official slimes)

[@josenavarro3763]

does it work with quest 2?

[@tigerzero5216]

My response is based on other videos attempting to get trackers to work with Quest 2 and think it applies here as well. Quest 2 knows nothing about trackers. It's all up to the application/program/game that can recognize both different brand input devices and combine their inputs. It seems like a lot of configuration time is needed to make any different brand tracker product work. I can guess from your question you are like me. We have a Quest 2 and want to add some body tracking. I have not seen a Quest/tracker combo review that I'm willing to spend money on that tracker system. Just keep reading those reviews.

[@andreasmeow452]

HELLO

[@LemonBat]

How long was the shipping times?

[@reddeaddragon]

A buddy of mine ordered his on Monday and got it by like Friday! Honestly one of my biggest motivators rn^

[@LemonBat]

it tells me to pre order them, They get here that quick? @@reddeaddragon

[@nikkiWuy]

why have the compenys that make fullybody trackers have not make a tracker with both base station tracking with imu tracking! It would fix all problems with imu dift and base station occlusion! it just dumb and would never lose traking!

[@digitalf0x]

If I'm not mistaken, Lighthouse trackers also have IMUs for short-term usage (e.g. if I cover my Vive Wand it vaguely moves correctly for a short period of time), they just aren't set up right for the full calibration IMUs need. Those IMUs might also not be as high quality? Not sure. Regardless, as you say, it'd be awesome to have the option to fully calibrate the IMU side if you want the flexibility that VR session, or to skip it that time for simplicity.

[@reddeaddragon]

I think Axis already does that with their higher tiers? Since it uses the “phone hub” to do positional tracking

[@Nilloc777]

I’m appalled that there is no hip tracker at that price, it really is needed for any level of accuracy with imu only tracking solutions

[@DarkFwy]

Second

[@kurisu7885]

Looks like Slime is still the better one ^^;

[@gerardniks3636]

they're working on slimevr intergration, osc support is done ^^

[@reddeaddragon]

I’m still waiting for my Slimes >< , might get this since it’s getting all the support rn AND I can get it delivered asap (I just wanna dance in VRC)

[@user-mp8ib4wf7g]

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[@wolfvr0]

uwu

[@Laggex_]

Instead of new trackers - get yourself a new camera man 😂

[@TahvoStudio]

I'll figure out something for the glare, those LEDs are BRIGHT

[@MyWatermelonz]

Bro how come I only get furries in the search when i look for full body trackers?? I just wanna play dance dash and slime is gay

[@TahvoStudio]

Just the way it is…a lot of the VR scene is furries (or anime)

[@louie365official]

So, in comparison to SlimeVR, not worth it as far as I can see.

[@user-pw9vs2gl9o]

Wait wait your white 😮

[@DarkSwordsman]

Unfortunately what I'm seeing here is that they are more expensive slimes with way worse battery life, and Slime already aren't that great. RIP

[@Prince_Eugene]

my friend has this tracker(9) of them. and he hates it.

[@kirstenrhoden1233]

So no good for vr dancing then 😢for twitch

[@akemiemil2595]

bro slimevr is cheaper and works better tbh

[@purplepikminYT]

only 4 hours? thats dog shit bad... its auto not wroth your time if u cant do near 7...