SlimeVR in VRCHAT: Cheap FBT for Quest/PCVR

[@Vyath]

I got my SlimeVR trackers last week! And yes, there's a bit of a learning curve with getting them placed correctly on your body and getting the calibration done. But coming from someone who can't really afford lighthouse based tracking, the more I use them the more I absolutely love them! The community discord server is a big help in figuring out issues

[@iCOGNiTOSHiNOBi]

How did you buy them where from !

[@Vyath]

@@iCOGNiTOSHiNOBi I was an earlier backer, preordered them October 2021. Just ordered from Crowd Supply like anyone else. I've been waiting a while haha. I was very glad to finally get them!

[@Chems-nb8vf]

I am interested in the fact that they are cheaper than others and they work quite good

[@antocmartinaemz]

That's one of the reason I built some for myself, this, and the app that allow to use them on almost any system ^^

[@Derpdawerp]

They take over a year to ship.

[@antocmartinaemz]

@@Derpdawerp you can build them yourself, or ask someone to build them, as everything is open source, i did it, and I used better wires than the one they recommended, so far, I have no issue with it, my experience was a lot better than in this video, I was surprised when I saw the issue he had x) I built the full set for around 100€ (and some hours soldering everything x)

[@Derpdawerp]

@@antocmartinaemz oh well yeah that’s true tbh I never wanted to ask tho cuz I already brought them and idk

[@skooz9462]

@@antocmartinaemzIf I wanted someone to build them for me where could I find those people ?

[@diaradalmatian1318]

Coming from lighthouse tracking and still having my trusty vive trackers - the Vive trackers are a solid 9/10 while the Slime are ranging between 6/10 to 8/10 tracking. They have a learning curve and you need to work those things out.. but being able to have a blanket or just to lie on to of someone without standing up and shifting my trackers.. it's amazing! I can even wear a hoodie doesnt matter

[@yorucheii]

Mine will be coming in April! So excited but a bit nervous due to the issues that could happen. The slimevr discord server is incredibly helpful and the community will help as best as they can! I love that they host consistent events to help new users set up their trackers!

[@awesome_by_default]

same. cant wait for april.

[@ploxthefurry]

Did you end up actually getting your slime vr trackers? Or was it delayed (mine was)

[@philmeister2460]

I just ordered the BNO IMU's to upgrade my trackers. Great timing

[@basti7206]

I have the slimes 2 weeks now, and the calibration part is so true. at the frist day its a nightmare because of mistakes doing the calibration / mounting wrong. But it gets better everyday. Easy to learn hard to master =D

[@Stringbean]

"These are the extra problems you will have, BUT you will save 1,000$" Bet

[@arealboiii4830]

I love your shorts. Didn't even know you did long form content till I started looking into Slime trackers. Great video!

[@Minimewatson99]

Nice. I am gonna make my own diy slimes, and reviews are helping me decide how many trackers i want, and is helping motivate me to buy the parts. Currently using 5 phones, and a samsung watch, and its very accurate for what it is.

[@Snitchie]

Don’t do extensions. Unless you wanna replace wires , since they will most likely break. I used three different wires u til I settled with no extensions. 12 main trackers. 😅

[@piggythepimp]

I came from phones as well! Definitely recommend building a pcb set with BNO if you can afford them, sooo much easier to build and more reliable. Ive used shitty wires so I've had 2-3 failures over the last 1,500hrs. Just built a new pcb BNO set and moving to nicer wire with strain relief to help protect the connections as I prefer a tiny little imu on my hip and feet over a full tracker even if I have to occasionally fix it ^^

[@undeadfish66d98]

good thing i work with wiring at my job gonna make sure those wires never break

[@Tyrinath]

I suspect that as IMU's work forward they might actually replace light houses entirely, if only because of how much of a problem occlusion is, but also because of the significant quality increase over time. Slime VR also has such a wind at its back in the form of a community polishing it with a passion that there is an edge to its development that most competitors can't match.

[@diamondxdragons]

Most of my friends use slimes but built them themselves and its definitely sold me on them. One of my buddies is selling me a kit of some surplus trackers he has, same ones he uses and im excited to finally rid myself of my Kinect.

[@ShOwOba]

I'm glad that there is such a warm reception to Slime so far, it's a step in the right direction!

[@Kristopian]

These seem to work fairly well, although I already have full body tracking, I might buy some and give them a try, these definitely seem less heavy, and bulky than my current setup, since I'm using fairly old body trackers

[@evanplays1945]

What do you have?

[@Kristopian]

@@evanplays1945 nothing special, just the Vive 1.0 trackers, along with a couple other miscellaneous trackers (like for hand tracking)

[@Kristopian]

@@evanplays1945 they are great most of the time! Except when I accidentally poke myself (not too bad, but it's still a nub of plastic), or when I have to readjust them (mostly just problems with legs)

[@ZRock35VR]

Awesome video, love it! Thank you!

[@fuylro6r6or6pg6p]

Great review. I'm in the process of designing and building my own set atm, waiting for the last shipment to arrive 😅

[@MooshPaw]

I wanna add that there's a VR tracker done via webcam with RTX cards, if you have one you can use it as elbow tracking which is the only thing that works reliably on my experience, and you save yourself a couple bucks

[@bazzyowo]

oh really? what's it called?

[@MooshPaw]

@@bazzyowo Should be called Nvidia Body Tracking, it's a gihub This said by the time this video came out and now, quest has released their shoulder tracking which is way better, and virtual desktop uses it, so if you have a quest 3 it's a no brainer, if you have a quest 2, even though it doesn't actually track the elbows, the locomotion is much better with it You could still use the RTX One if you really want elbow tracking, or if you have a ton on space and good camera then probably full body works as well, but for the average person it's hard to get a good angle for full body tracking

[@bazzyowo]

@@MooshPaw thank u

[@Cherri_bombin]

Thank you I have been looking for something like this for a while.

[@MrTechcat]

Best Slime review I have seen so far :)

[@dragon_xrc]

Thank you Tahvo

[@TheSticknstone2]

I waited mine for 2 years, but they are sooo worth

[@Snitchie]

Love my slimes been dancing over 6 months in em. Started with 6 now wearing 12 every night. ( no extensions) And yes if done correct it is as good as lighthouses. People I meet think I am in vive (see profile for proof). But thanks for sharing this. Covers it all 🥰🥰

[@Nickumtoo]

Hey, hope you enjoy them! I won't have mine for another few months thanks to delays but I'm sure they will be worth it! Have a great day! 💙

[@Nickumtoo]

Just a small update, I finally got mine yesterday! You are absolutely right about the calibration issues and inconsistencies but hopefully it'll get there!

[@IorekByrnison086]

SlimeVR sounds like a cool option for me. Will definitely look into them. Thanks for this video. Keep up the great job and happy 2024.

[@AFennecFoxy]

This is definitely something I'll snatch up but in a later time. And hopefully by then, those quirks are buffed out and improved on to make it less of a hassle!

[@char1ika1]

Thanks for the info! I did hear about the small things to look out for, non the less I'm still excited!

[@graywave5566]

One small QOL thing to do is setting YawReset(Fast reset) and Reset (full reset) to a button key i have mine on the Y button and all you need to do is press it to reset the drift so much easier than double tapping the tracker

[@Snitchie]

This is a must. Takes one second to press a button and drift is gone vs physically tap on your body.

[@BerryTheBnnuy]

The drift is due to cheap parts. Specifically BNI IMUs. The BNI IMU costs $1 per IMU, but BNO costs $10 a piece. The cheaper Slime Trackers all have BNIs and they will always drift. BNOs do not or at least should not drift.

[@Snitchie]

@@BerryTheBnnuy BNO also drift eventually. So a reset yaw is needed. If you move fast and dance with bno's still need to reset. but they are better when standing still then bmi for sure. Much better! But then again cant jump with BNO and you can with BMI.. so what poison do you want? I go with BMI legs and BNO upper body ;)

[@grimnott]

​@@BerryTheBnnuy all imus drift, the only difference between them is how long it takes

[@daydreamthewaggon6159]

i love watching videos on an item i'll never be able to afford or use

[@n-xeno]

I'll be getting my May of this year, I'm very excited!!

[@Code_String]

Been racking up a soldering kit during my computer repair ventures. Been accumulating a couple of things to create a couple of these soon!

[@DarkSwordsman]

Just note it is VERY DIY. It will likely take at least 6 months from start to "finish", which mostly includes little adjustments and learning how they calibrate in order to get them reliable.

[@Code_String]

@@DarkSwordsman Well aware, been looking a couple of things about these and have known of them for a bit. I am willing to commit and learn though.

[@TheMNWolf]

The open source nature really intrigues me here. I'm no stranger to building my own boards so if I ever get my VR space cleaned up again, might have to give that a try.

[@thatguy9335]

This would be perfect for indie game developers for cutcenes and fluid movement, Indie animators as well

[@p5ych0._.k1ll3r]

amazing tutorial thank you so much!

[@legomaniac601]

For me I dont mine dealing with a bit of extra jank if it means I have more freedom of movement without having to worry about lighthouse blind spots. I am fully capable of building Slime 100% from scratch (buying all the parts and building it myself). So for me I will more then likely be getting Slime trackers in the future.

[@sukoHAHA]

i saw the 195 for lower body and i screamed in happiness

[@issacvoregames]

my level of excitement is immeserable

[@Miatontop]

i''m gonna buy a quest 2 and slimevr now

[@wolfe2997]

It would be cool if they made trackers that communicate between each other and depending how long it takes changes their position, but it sounds like it would be too fiddly

[@05Matz]

You mean a lightspeed-lag positioning setup, like GPS? I think the very precise clocks required for that (especially over such short distances) would be cost-prohibitive.

[@S386LWBNM]

I finally got mine after several years from buying into the second wave of their campaign lol, very excited.

[@rickythewoof]

I don't know about BNOs, but I made myself a kit with BMI160s, and I don't need them to be flat and stable every time I turn them on. This is because there is a calibration procedure that needs to be done once and then you can forget about it

[@Yipper64]

I just got my slimes today! And heck, 2 months after the first batch aint terrible.

[@ODISeth]

I’m excited to see you set up a KoFi! I don’t see it linked in the description but I’ll just type in the link lol

[@rekonener2362]

I want to add to that latency issue as I just got mine and am finding out my wifi can't handle it for more than 30 mins before shutting down. Attempted to use an access point but not luck. I do love SlimeVR and strongly recommend it. But if your wifi isn't stellar (although mine is) do not that you may struggle to run them

[@liechow8071]

They are pretty nice if they are your first time full body experience. But if u have experienced fbt with vive tracker, u may be annoyed by the amount of slime tracker u need to put on your body.

[@necrosisthewolf4279]

Another awesome, fun, and informative video. I had to turn notifications back on because KZbin has been secretly turning off notifications for content creators that are (even remotely) furry.

[@theunforgivensoldier4137]

i dont know if i can personally deal with the posing/constant flat surface setup every time the trackers are turned on let alone waiting on the order for 6 months for the trackers but overall im glad this solution is working amazingly for others

[@ploxthefurry]

I preordered my SlimeVR trackers on April 4th of last year (2023) and am still waiting on them to arrive after so many delays originally intended to arrive in august of 2023 then kept getting delayed. As of now they are "expected" to arrive by the end of February. Yeah 10 month wait, hope it was worth it. As of April 30th 2024 they are now delayed until may 31st

[@suchdoggo64]

I ordered my shit in July, and it was supposed to be here November 30th. Then January 31st. And I just found out today they are supposed to ship March 28th. When the fuck.

[@skypoken6670]

Same

[@ploxthefurry]

@@suchdoggo64they delayed mine again for end of March next month (April) it’s going to be a year of waiting

[@BerryTheBnnuy]

I ordered the components and they got to me in less than a month. I had to solder it all myself and it helps to have a 3d printer to make my own cases, but yeah...

[@flornixnebula]

I got mine like a weak ago. Was waiting for more than one and a half year. XD Well at leased they got it running now, so people shouldnt have to wait as long as me. ^^

[@suchdoggo64]

Lucky mother fucker. Ordered in July, shipping date changed twice. Expected to ship March 28th. I ain’t never getting these bitches

[@Thomachinez]

Might as well try it here. I made these myself, but for some reason I can't find a proper series of straps for these. Open to recommendations ♥

[@LowxyNova]

i do have lighthouses but i do like to build stuff so DIYing this would be a nice project and also wouldn't be as expensive. so yeah i think ill do that.

[@Raikuenn]

The delivery time is the main reason why I haven't ordered these yet. I would like to get the full set which gets pretty pricy. If I'd than also have to wait at least half a year for them to deliver it (I've heard about others waiting for longer than a year due to delays) feels like throwing a lot of money into a bottomless pit and than praying something will come back out of that pit at some point.

[@BerryTheBnnuy]

make your own. The components will get to you much faster.

[@RockstarRacc00n]

Note: Resonite lets you "full body calibrate" on the fly by T posing. I'm told this helps with the drift.

[@JMelodys]

you know ERP about to go crazy with some of these questies frfr

[@JMelodys]

jk

[@Jay6x]

I got my slimes a few weeks ago, and went with the full-body 7+3 kit. Very glad I did, though 2 of the core slime units BLOD'd, so I'm only using 5+3 for now while I wait for warranty to contact me about sending me 2 new ones. Calibration is something you kinda work towards, but it'll never be 100% perfect, and yeah, drift happens over time, but resetting it isn't difficult, and I only need to do it if I feel off. At worst, I'd have to do an i-pose then crouched pose to do the full and mounting resets if the trackers somehow moved. I don't need to do the body proportion dance again as far as I'm aware... not that I mind... nvm probably have to do it again when I get my replacement slimes.

[@BerryTheBnnuy]

If you're having drift problems, your IMUs are cheap. BNI costs $1 a board. BNO costs $10 a board. The cheaper slime trackers and even some of the more expensive ones use BNI. This is why I made my own. To be sure I got the right components.

[@galarawr]

I kinda wish they had a limit on a few sets per customer(maybe they do, idk), then maybe the wait wouldn't be as long. Cause I've seen third party sites selling the trackers for higher prices and faster shipping before.

[@Ryan-gq7kr]

I'm in there! Sorry for calling you out durnig the meet lol I dunno my spidey senses were tingling or sumin lol

[@adaliee6913]

I think slime trackers are a good starter thing but not a forever thing for me, I still prefer vive trackers in my opinion but it's still really cool.

[@meowkey4975]

so excited to get mine, they got delayed 3 times though :( supposed to be shipping on september 30th instead of august 30th now

[@arifbayusatrio1028]

TAHVO SUIT BEANS? Also interesting that they're open source. So in technical sense they can be made by someone who specialized in 3d printing and programming (bypassing the nonsense customs tax)

[@sheldonb2022]

I got somatic 300$ for 5 point trackers with stack charge (1 plug charge and other charge same time as it charge)

[@dragon_xrc]

Ill soon get Slime VR

[@lanata64]

the extension cables are such a pain to deal with. ive made my own trackers, and even then. the thing that's holding them in place is the solder ― the lead. that's why you almost like need to make an anchor point on the silicone insulation of the wire, and attach that to the tracker case. like stitching them together ― otherwise the tension sits on the solder connection.

[@kingpuro2317]

Wish I new that they were out before I bought th haritorax 1.1b

[@meikai0917]

hopefull i get some soon

[@JohnDoe-rr8uf]

Still waiting for ONE part to be able to assemble them myself. Everything else arrived over a month ago...

[@espinita.]

Im not even into vr anymore I want these still

[@foughtwolf]

4 Months wait and the concerning quality of cabling and reported DOA units in packages makes me iffy about these. I want fullbody that doesnt require constant vision but, damn.

[@curse7469]

its more than 4 months lol, just got mine after a year though.

[@mizu_the_floatzel]

I guess you need to make a new bid on VR set up now xD

[@contentbuffet4306]

I dont have the things. But thank you for an entertaining and interesting video regardless tahvo

[@DarkSwordsman]

I've found the slimes to be hit or miss. Mainly in that, even if you do get production ones, they still have a litany of little issues that take a lot of time and configuration to solve. They work, but you get what you pay for. There's kind of a reason the lighthouse solution is so expensive. You put them on, calibrate, and then you're set. Same can not be said if you use slimes. I will say though, the 16 trackers for $560 feels like a rip off when you can make the same thing for less than $200 yourself.

[@SlendisFi_Universe]

I want to make my own set because I have no money to buy any of those ready ones... What components I need and what coding I need?

[@s3ri0usly.und34d]

I bought mine a bit ago and they should ship in may!

[@ploxthefurry]

Don’t be surprised if it gets delayed to death

[@s3ri0usly.und34d]

@@ploxthefurry yeah I figured

[@wolfxblade4936]

Still waiting for mine, they were supposed to hopefully finally ship today but the date got changed to February

[@BowRainDash]

would just like to say if you do have a headset with lighthouses these are not worth it just buy the vive ones they a few extra dollars for better more consistant tracking with no ''drifting''

[@Kevin-beer]

As a VRChat KZbinr, could you please consider on talking about the Loli Police Department? I think it kind of doesn't receive the attention of VRChat KZbinrs that it deserves. For Information about the LPD, I could help you out, as I am a member of this amazing Group. Thanks in advance.

[@SerialDesignationN-re6bk]

Heard about it once, but still don't exactly know, what it is

[@scenedogs3267]

2 years and still waiting on mines to arrive. At this point I could've gotten vive trackers and base stations by now

[@suchdoggo64]

Been waiting on mine since july last year when I ordered them The shipping date is now March 28th. This comment makes me feel like I ain’t getting shit.

[@scenedogs3267]

@@suchdoggo64 We honestly might have been scammed because after my last date of Nov 28th 2023. I have not received anymore updates I could've bought Vive trackers and base stations by now

[@hyperspeed1313]

About how much do part-for-part equivalent DIY slimes cost to source?

[@avagoosa]

Hello Tahvo! I've asked around for a solution to a problem I have, but not even the Reddit community can help. I was wondering if you know a way to do a thing similar to play space dragging, except for orientation, including up and down? Also I love ur vids they're very funny and informative, plus you're the reason I'm getting FBT and looking into Resonite :)

[@Noa15Lv]

As silly it might sound, but i'll stick with basestations & vive trackers. My slow internet is not ready for slimes.

[@Anonymous553061]

Now do a body proportions guide lol that's what everyone really wants rn

[@flamboyantkittrip1642]

I'm still waiting for my slime trackers TwT

[@Chris-x7b]

Well this is great timing I've been lookin into slime vr FBT and I'm not to sure on if there is a better option I would use this for vrc but I want to be under blankets so a light house set up won't work and with a small budget price range I was looking into the total of 6 trackers but I don't know how their whole process of products work is it Givin to big youtubers to test? Is it coming out in small batches over time? I am unsure and just want a little advice for a person who has done nothing with fbt and a slight limited time range of about 3 months.

[@skypoken6670]

I've been waiting for my slime vr almost a year now has I am still waiting for it😢 it's been a pushback so many times

[@Saint_Branden]

I ordered mine is November 2022, and it’s still not here. Mine was supposed to ship in January 31st now it’s delayed again. I’m starting think it’s a scam.

[@suchdoggo64]

Ordered them in July, supposed to be here November 30th. Now January 31st. And now it’s supposed to ship March 28th. It’s not a scam, it’s the absolute bullshit shipping. It might as well be a scam. I mean, your receiving what you paid for potentially years after the fact.

[@Ramen-Doodlezz]

I am ready to buy it but they won deliver it till MAY and I'm moving COUNTRIES. Let me suffer in peace XD

[@Afton92771]

do you need a PC or do they work standalone

[@MarieLoughlin-t2u]

Rippin Parkways

[@Gr3mlinfloof]

I might but 5 trackers it’ll prob# arrive June

[@a12345678a11ex]

1:50 Wait...is that LIghthouse clamp up side down🤔

[@Noa15Lv]

Looks like, good eyes! :D

[@lminit868]

Cool

[@masonc5470]

i saw the first number on the site and thought "2,000,000 IS CHEAP!!??" then i saw the 195-560 and thought (oh nvm there's the price range)

[@TahvoStudio]

Small loan of 2 million dollars

[@ThunderbolttheFox]

I recently ordered a fullbody kit for when I get my new custom model ~ q(≧▽≦q)

[@TheCloudPuff]

Is it possible to use this with quest's upper body tracking?

[@bradmir1718]

Can you do a video on vive ultimate trackers? I’m really interested in how they work

[@Auroraalexofficial]

i assume you have to hook them up to a computer for it to work

[@SrogaPoziomka]

Which headset do you guys use for vr chat? Which is good for newbie?

[@Clara_Page]

The Quest 3 is a solid choice, great screen and lens' and it can run standalone VRC pretty well

[@JoesphEisentrout-j9h]

Romaguera Extensions

[@MrDoge145]

i remember when this was just a myth bro

[@NebulaWolfie]

I've been waiting for my smile trackers for over 6 months, and I am a little bit scared now because I'm a bit of a dum boy, I feel like it'll be quite confusing and I might run into a lot of issues

[@TahvoStudio]

You’ll figure it out. Just give it time.

[@suchdoggo64]

*Ordered in july* *shipping date went from November 30th to January 31st this year* *January 31st passes* *it’s coming from the Netherlands, so it’ll take a while* *Fast forward to today* *shipping date changed to March 28th* When the fuck am I getting them. This wait time is bullshit. I don’t even know if I’m getting the full quality of the trackers, since I bought the cheapest option ($165)

[@ploxthefurry]

The struggle is real (been waiting since April 2023)

[@suchdoggo64]

@@ploxthefurryjust got mine holy shit

[@ploxthefurry]

@@suchdoggo64 i got mine too on the 23rd of last month